A Second Trump Presidency

[Abu Hadi]

This is becoming more and more likely although I think there is still a strong possibility that it wouldn't happen. 

Biden is dropping in the poles 'like a stone' because of his unconditional support of the Gaza genocide. He has lost the muslim votes, almost entirely, as he should, and most of the left of the Democratic party. So his chances of getting re elected are slim to none at this point. Since Trump is by far the frontrunner in the Republican party, having won both of the last two primaries by a sizeable margin, I think there is only one thing that could stop him, which is something that has a strong possibility of happening. 

The Democrats will drop Biden as their candidate citing health reasons or something else, and will run another popular figure like the Gov of California, Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama. This would present a strong challenge to Trump. 

At the same time, we as muslims, and especially those who live in the US, need to prepare ourselves for a possible Trump victory. I think the main part of this would be networking various muslim and other groups together (so long as they are respectful of our values and don't stand in opposition to Islam) to form an 'axis of political resistance' to the coming Trump policies (if he is elected) which will be much more extreme than before because he doesn't have to worry about getting re elected. 

[Abu_Zahra]

Trump was never more dangerous than the Democrats for Muslims. Their policies are not dramatically different to each other,  especially on points that are relevant to Muslimeen in the US. 

Muslims anyway need to prepare themselves,  regardless of who the President is. The country is run by AIPAC, the NRA, Big Pharma, Big Oil and other lobbies. 

I doubt Biden will make way for anyone. It's too late to change candidates. 

[Abu Hadi]

6 hours ago, Abu_Zahra said:

Trump was never more dangerous than the Democrats for Muslims. Their policies are not dramatically different to each other,  especially on points that are relevant to Muslimeen in the US. 

Muslims anyway need to prepare themselves,  regardless of who the President is. The country is run by AIPAC, the NRA, Big Pharma, Big Oil and other lobbies. 

I doubt Biden will make way for anyone. It's too late to change candidates. 

I agree with everything u said but we need to think strategically. I have good information though I don't know for sure that Trump has cut a deal with the Zionists. They will pay his debts (billions of dollars that he doesn't have the money to pay) in return for him starting a war with Iran. This is the end goal of the Zionists, have the US fight a war for them with Iran. No president so far has agreed to this, including genocide Joe. 

So if this is true then that's the difference. I don't want hundreds of thousands of my brothers and sisters in Iran and probably hundreds of thousands of my fellow US citizens having to die in a useless war for Trump and Natanyahu. That's the difference

So if Trump gets elected we should be prepared to have millions of Americans in the street to stop the war. This is the only thing that will stop Trump. Shut down highways, ports, etc. All of this would be necessary. 

Also I think it's not too late for the Dems to dump Biden. There's a good possibility they are preparing for this now. They can look at his poll numbers just like we can

[Diaz]

9 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

I have good information though I don't know for sure that Trump has cut a deal with the Zionists. They will pay his debts (billions of dollars that he doesn't have the money to pay) in return for him starting a war with Iran. This is the end goal of the Zionists, have the US fight a war for them with Iran. No

But if I’m not wrong, trump has an issue with China more than with Iran, so I don’t think he will do such an unwise decision. Btw, isn’t he a billionaire?

 

Anyway both of them are killers. 

[Abu_Zahra]

14 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

This is the end goal of the Zionists, have the US fight a war for them with Iran. No president so far has agreed to this, including genocide Joe. 

I'm not so sure that the Zionists want Iran to get pulled into an all our war. They would suffer much more than the US, because they're within distance of every Iranian and South Lebanese missile.

15 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

So if this is true then that's the difference. I don't want hundreds of thousands of my brothers and sisters in Iran and probably hundreds of thousands of my fellow US citizens having to die in a useless war for Trump and Natanyahu

Tens of thousands are dying in Palestine, and the Democrats have previously killed or backed the killing of many other tens of thousands.

16 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

So if Trump gets elected we should be prepared to have millions of Americans in the street to stop the war. This is the only thing that will stop Trump. Shut down highways, ports, etc. All of this would be necessary

This has never happened in living history. If all of this can be shut down why isn't it happening right now for Palestine?

17 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

Also I think it's not too late for the Dems to dump Biden. There's a good possibility they are preparing for this now. They can look at his poll numbers just like we can

There are no prepared candidates and the primaries have already started. 

[Aloysius Pendergast]

Salaam,

Who Trump has in his cabinet and his advisors will tell us a lot about what their foreign policy plans are for the next 4 years.

Even though Trump tore up the Iran nuclear deal, and assasinated Solemaini, he did not start a foreign war. In fact, under his jurisdiction the war on Syria was slowly curtailed.

Hes also significantly less hawkish on Russia.

Civil society in the U.S has significant influence to pushback against domestic draconian measures. This is much less the case for foreign policy, as we see clearly with the ongoing genocide. 
 

In sum, I am less threatened by a Trump presidency than others. He is a reality that must take its course. Rather that then it be bottled up and manifest itself in an even more extreme fashion. 

Edited January 24, 2024 by Aloysius Pendergast

[Abu Hadi]

50 minutes ago, Abu_Zahra said:

I'm not so sure that the Zionists want Iran to get pulled into an all our war. They would suffer much more than the US, because they're within distance of every Iranian and South Lebanese missile.

Tens of thousands are dying in Palestine, and the Democrats have previously killed or backed the killing of many other tens of thousands.

This has never happened in living history. If all of this can be shut down why isn't it happening right now for Palestine?

There are no prepared candidates and the primaries have already started. 

First I would like to say that don't misunderstand me. I am not voting for Biden under any circumstances. I would even say that whoever votes for Biden after what he has done is a traitor to Islam and to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). No to Genocide Joe !!!!!

About the war, yes they want an all out war. The Zionists who support Biden are living in their own private fantasy world. They think that the 'ayatollahs' as they disrespectfully call the IRI, will see all those planes and boats coming their way and will throw up their hands and surrender. This is pure fantasy and everyone here knows, even the ones who don't support IRI that this is not what is going to happen. The Zionists however believe this, and that is the scary part. So yes, there is a chance of it happening and they do want an all out war. Listen to people like Bolton and Haley. These are the people that Trump would be listening to in a potential war, not you and me. 

The reason why nothing that has taken place here has stopped what is happening in Gaza is that there were, at most, 300,000 people in the street in D.C. a few weeks ago. That is not enough. The media can spin that and say it's a 'few anti war activists'. If there were 3 million people in the streets of D.C. they couldn't say that and it would be impossible to ignore or spin. Yes, it could happen. There are between 15 to 20 million Muslims in the US. So it's only a percentage of that. There are also plenty of 10s of millions of others who would be against the war. If a fraction of them showed up we would have the number. I think a potential war with Iran would be such a huge event that at least a million would be easily achievable, but it would take more to completely shut down the possibility. 

The Dems could switch candidates at this point. It is openly being talked about in D.C., so there is a chance. Allah Alim. 

 

[Abu_Zahra]

@Abu Hadiyou're naive if you think millions of Muslims will go to the streets because Iran is getting attacked by the US. Only 15% of American Muslims would actually find it relevant, which is already less 1 million people, out of which some are not even pro IR and others are not politically active.

For sure you will not reach the 300'000 of DC. Heck, most of Dearborn wouldn't go to the streets. Some of them would privately applaud such a venture. 

[Abu Hadi]

I don't know if I'm right or your right but I hope we never have to find out

[Ahmad8888]

11 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

This is becoming more and more likely although I think there is still a strong possibility that it wouldn't happen. 

Biden is dropping in the poles 'like a stone' because of his unconditional support of the Gaza genocide. He has lost the muslim votes, almost entirely, as he should, and most of the left of the Democratic party. So his chances of getting re elected are slim to none at this point. Since Trump is by far the frontrunner in the Republican party, having won both of the last two primaries by a sizeable margin, I think there is only one thing that could stop him, which is something that has a strong possibility of happening. 

The Democrats will drop Biden as their candidate citing health reasons or something else, and will run another popular figure like the Gov of California, Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama. This would present a strong challenge to Trump. 

At the same time, we as muslims, and especially those who live in the US, need to prepare ourselves for a possible Trump victory. I think the main part of this would be networking various muslim and other groups together (so long as they are respectful of our values and don't stand in opposition to Islam) to form an 'axis of political resistance' to the coming Trump policies (if he is elected) which will be much more extreme than before because he doesn't have to worry about getting re elected. 

Unpopular opinion, but the elections don't matter, I've been saying this for years but both democrat and republican politicians are scum of the earth. It's just that democrats are better at lying and being charming whilst republicans are rude and honest about their enmity to islam. I wish the day comes when people realise the democrats are ennemies to islam too, especially with the agendas they push. 

 

And I hope you realise everything that is happening in the middle east is happening 100% with americas approval, even everything natenyahu or the israeli regime is doing. All the "disagreements" between america and the israeli regime for example are just for show. If trump doesn't get elected, biden will go to war with iran and vice versa. 

Edited January 24, 2024 by HusseinAbbas

[Ahmad8888]

@Abu Hadi @Abu_Zahra iran and lebanon are already going to war with america and israel and there is nothing stopping it, it's already severely escalated.

In lebanon it will already be a war, it's not a question of if, but a question if when, a few days ago israel tried a suprise attack that got foiled by hezb, they will do another one soon, until a war has started.

Iran will be dragged into this, hamas informed iran last month that they could fight for months. Once these months are over and hamas can't replenish itself, iran, iraq and syria will be forced to officially join the war.  OR israel will escalate this severely by killing more iranian generals, this is the more likely scenario.

 

To confirm this even more natenyahu confirmed he plans escalating this a lot. 

Edited January 24, 2024 by HusseinAbbas

[Silas]

I doubt Trump will start any kind of conflict with Iran, but what he does in regards to Israel is a question 

As others have said, who he chooses for his cabinet will be illuminating as to what his Israel policy will be. Biden's cabinet is filled with Zionist Jews

Trump's philosophy is "war and conflict are bad for business". 

Biden's unpopularity is a result of his actions in regard to Israel, but also his complete failure to enforce immigration policy. We have police stations and schools in my city filled with illegals--it is complete chaos. And then there is the issue of his age and competence

 

[Aloysius Pendergast]

3 hours ago, Abu_Zahra said:

@Abu Hadiyou're naive if you think millions of Muslims will go to the streets because Iran is getting attacked by the US. Only 15% of American Muslims would actually find it relevant, which is already less 1 million people, out of which some are not even pro IR and others are not politically active.

For sure you will not reach the 300'000 of DC. Heck, most of Dearborn wouldn't go to the streets. Some of them would privately applaud such a venture. 

Yes the sad reality is vast majority of Muslims, especially Sunni Muslims are sectarian.

Most see Iran as a bad actor, and they would prefer an opportunity to turn Iran into a Sunni country. A war would give them that opportunity, however deluded they are in this thinking.

Muslims are only aligned on Palestine. Outside of this, there are deep cleavages  which manifested during the war on Syria, and will probably manifest again if Iran is attacked . 

[Aloysius Pendergast]

2 hours ago, HusseinAbbas said:

Unpopular opinion, but the elections don't matter, I've been saying this for years but both democrat and republican politicians are scum of the earth. It's just that democrats are better at lying and being charming whilst republicans are rude and honest about their enmity to islam. I wish the day comes when people realise the democrats are ennemies to islam too, especially with the agendas they push. 

 

And I hope you realise everything that is happening in the middle east is happening 100% with americas approval, even everything natenyahu or the israeli regime is doing. All the "disagreements" between america and the israeli regime for example are just for show. If trump doesn't get elected, biden will go to war with iran and vice versa. 

I believe Muslims should be first in line to vote for the Jill Steins or Cornel Wests. Why we cast our vote for leaders that will invetibly bomb and kill people js beyond me.

Make the moral choice, we may lose in the dunya, but at least your soul won’t be held accountable in the Aakhirah. 

[Abu Hadi]

If I do vote for President, I'm probably voting for Cornel West. Not a perfect candidate but 1000x better than the others. 

I agree 100 percent that we should vote our conscious and vote for the candidate that is most inline with Islamic values even if they are not a Muslim. 

[Aloysius Pendergast]

20 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

If I do vote for President, I'm probably voting for Cornel West. Not a perfect candidate but 1000x better than the others. 

I agree 100 percent that we should vote our conscious and vote for the candidate that is most inline with Islamic values even if they are not a Muslim. 

Yea Cornel West is great. Just an FYI his wife is an Iranian, and fully onboard with the Iran propaganda.

Not sure what relevancy that would have in a Cornel West presidency in an alternate universe, but something to be aware of

[Ahmad8888]

2 hours ago, Aloysius Pendergast said:

I believe Muslims should be first in line to vote for the Jill Steins or Cornel Wests. Why we cast our vote for leaders that will invetibly bomb and kill people js beyond me.

Make the moral choice, we may lose in the dunya, but at least your soul won’t be held accountable in the Aakhirah. 

Anything other than the two party dictatorship is not getting elected, both the democratic party and republican party intimidated the green party and targetted them to not have success in elections, which Jill steins is a part of. 

Either way, even them, people should be weary of such people, they might be vocal about palestine and whatnot, but they still push for ideologies that are very much against islam. 

I was not aware of the wife of cornel west, but that's very relevant info, he will defenetly push for regime change propaganda on iran, that's a guarantee. 

 

Ron paul was the only one with guts to not want to send aid to israel, but hes too old and had a stroke recently. 

Edited January 25, 2024 by HusseinAbbas

[Shaheed786]

When it comes to maintaining empire and the status-quo of US foreign policy, both major parties are pretty much aligned. However, there definitely has been a shift over the past decade within the Republican party. Starting with Trump's rise in 2015 and culminating in his (all but certain) Republican nomination this year, we have seen the party move away from the Reaganite, neocon identity that has defined it for the last 40 years. This is no longer the party of the Bushes, Cheneys and Romneys. This is Trump's party. Trump is suspicious of wars, NATO, and other multilateral agreements/alliances. Don't be fooled into thinking that Trump and his ilk are in any way motivated by a desire for a just foreign policy based on principles of international law and decency. For them, it is a purely transactional calculation. They view the post 9/11 wars and policies as strategically stupid and a waste of money and resources (I happen to agree with them there). However, they will pursue what they see as America's narrow interests as ruthlessly as the Democrats and will not hesitate to violate any agreement (like the Iran nuclear deal they walked away from) law or norm that stands in their way. If Trump gets reelected, it will be interesting to see if his desire for curtailing empire will translate into anything meaningful. 

One area that we should not have any illusions about, however, is Israel. Blind and unwavering support of Israel and everything it does is a fully bi-partisan reality in Washington. Zionism is entrenched into every aspect of the political establishment in the US, including the Christian Evangelical Zionists who are a major force in the Republican party. So don't expect change there if either Genocide Joe or Trump is elected. 

There are many other domestic policies we could discuss, and in some cases there are very real differences between the two sides.  Personally, I cannot bring myself to vote for either Genocide Joe or the Mango Mussolini. We've talked about the desire for viable third party candidates for decades. I'm not holding my breath, but perhaps a decent one will emerge Inshallah. 

[Abu Hadi]

13 hours ago, HusseinAbbas said:

Anything other than the two party dictatorship is not getting elected, both the democratic party and republican party intimidated the green party and targetted them to not have success in elections, which Jill steins is a part of. 

Either way, even them, people should be weary of such people, they might be vocal about palestine and whatnot, but they still push for ideologies that are very much against islam. 

I was not aware of the wife of cornel west, but that's very relevant info, he will defenetly push for regime change propaganda on iran, that's a guarantee. 

 

Ron paul was the only one with guts to not want to send aid to israel, but hes too old and had a stroke recently. 

That doesn't mean we shouldn't vote. Voting is a right that was given to us and we should use it or else we will be stepped on even more by the government. At the same time, we should not vote for a candidate and compromise our Islamic values. If a candidate has clearly demonstrated (both Biden and Trump have both clearly demonstrated this in different ways) that they are the enemy of Muslims (by either their actions or words or both) then we should not vote for them otherwise we are a weak traitor. 

We shouldn't let how popular or not popular someone is stop us from voting for them if we think they would make a good president, etc, at least better than the one we have now and they are not an enemy of Muslims. There was a great speech given about Imam Khomeini(رضي الله عنه) recently and the speaker said 'Imam started his revolution with nothing, just the cloths on his back and his words. He didn't even have a knife under his abaya. Now the entire world has changed and is still changing because of the stance of Imam'. 

This is true and it shows that if you stand up for Haqq and have tawwakul you will be successful. The success might not come right away, it could take years or decades but it will happen with the help of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). This is the attitude I always try to keep in mind when examining these issues. 

[Ahmad8888]

1 hour ago, Abu Hadi said:

That doesn't mean we shouldn't vote. Voting is a right that was given to us and we should use it or else we will be stepped on even more by the government. At the same time, we should not vote for a candidate and compromise our Islamic values. If a candidate has clearly demonstrated (both Biden and Trump have both clearly demonstrated this in different ways) that they are the enemy of Muslims (by either their actions or words or both) then we should not vote for them otherwise we are a weak traitor. 

We shouldn't let how popular or not popular someone is stop us from voting for them if we think they would make a good president, etc, at least better than the one we have now and they are not an enemy of Muslims. There was a great speech given about Imam Khomeini(رضي الله عنه) recently and the speaker said 'Imam started his revolution with nothing, just the cloths on his back and his words. He didn't even have a knife under his abaya. Now the entire world has changed and is still changing because of the stance of Imam'. 

This is true and it shows that if you stand up for Haqq and have tawwakul you will be successful. The success might not come right away, it could take years or decades but it will happen with the help of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). This is the attitude I always try to keep in mind when examining these issues. 

Brother, 99% of the people in congress are corrupt, I'm not saying this to be cynical, it's a fact, you don't get in that position if you're a good man in the western world. Even people like cornell west they wont do a revolution like khomeini(rh). 

Another unpopular opinion here, but America and it's allies are not real democracies, once their propaganda networks aren't effective anymore like they used to, they will become more authoritarian and clap down on dissidents like you and me. This is especially the case since the last 20 years and even more since the last 4 years. The establishment will never allow someone thats a threat to them to be in power.

It's why they even freaked out on trump, it wasn't because of his racist rants, almost all politicians in the US are racists and criminals, it's because he would occasionally blurt the silent part out loud like an idiot, it's because he tried pulling troops out of syria, this kind of stuff made him a target. Even though Trump is establishment, just this little disobedience made him a target. Imagine if some good person now becomes president? The media and all the establishment will rip them to shreds.

Edited January 25, 2024 by HusseinAbbas

[Muhammed Ali]

22 hours ago, Abu_Zahra said:

I'm not so sure that the Zionists want Iran to get pulled into an all our war. They would suffer much more than the US, because they're within distance of every Iranian and South Lebanese missile.

We shouldn't underestimate the arrogance and stupidity of the Zionists.

[Abu Hadi]

3 hours ago, HusseinAbbas said:

Brother, 99% of the people in congress are corrupt, I'm not saying this to be cynical, it's a fact, you don't get in that position if you're a good man in the western world. Even people like cornell west they wont do a revolution like khomeini(rh). 

Another unpopular opinion here, but America and it's allies are not real democracies, once their propaganda networks aren't effective anymore like they used to, they will become more authoritarian and clap down on dissidents like you and me. This is especially the case since the last 20 years and even more since the last 4 years. The establishment will never allow someone thats a threat to them to be in power.

It's why they even freaked out on trump, it wasn't because of his racist rants, almost all politicians in the US are racists and criminals, it's because he would occasionally blurt the silent part out loud like an idiot, it's because he tried pulling troops out of syria, this kind of stuff made him a target. Even though Trump is establishment, just this little disobedience made him a target. Imagine if some good person now becomes president? The media and all the establishment will rip them to shreds.

You can go into conspiracies, and I know conspiracies exist and are real but we can't go too deep into them without getting into alot of speculation which doesn't do us any good and makes us look foolish sometimes. Something is what it is apparently unless we have strong and overwhelming evidence that it is actually something else. Imam Sadiq said 'Leave that which you don't know for that which you know'. In other words if you are not sure of something, then assume it is what it is apparently. Another way to say it that if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it's a duck. To say it's not a duck would require strong and conclusive counter evidence. 

We can't assume what will happen in the future without evidence. We have to operate based on what we know at this point in time. What we know is that we live in an (apparent) democracy with a big * next to that phrase. Whatever rights we have under that democracy we should exercise them based on our values as Muslims. That is all I was trying to say. 

On the Day of Judgement, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will not ask us about things that we had some evidence for but were not 100% sure of. He(s.w.a) will only question us about things we are sure of and if we followed those things. 

I will give you a non political example. It's about the existence of aliens and alien spacecraft. Yes, there is lots of evidence from various sources that there are objects or crafts that are regularly flying around the skies of earth and noone knows what they are or what technology they are based on. That is pretty much a fact by now. At the same time, are they alien (i.e. are their aliens in those ships driving them). Did they come from outer space and were they built by an alien species, not of earthly origin ? Noone knows. There is a lot of speculation and conspiracies theories about it but that is why we, as Muslims and followers of Ahl Al Bayt((عليه السلام)) should not really think too much about these things or spend too much time worrying about them because there is a huge gap in our knowledge regarding these and we just don't know, so we leave this. Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is not going to ask us about aliens or those craft flying around because He(s.w.a) knows we have almost no information (reliable, credible information) about these things. 

Edited January 25, 2024 by Abu Hadi

[Ahmad8888]

15 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

You can go into conspiracies, and I know conspiracies exist and are real but we can't go too deep into them without getting into alot of speculation which doesn't do us any good and makes us look foolish sometimes. Something is what it is apparently unless we have strong and overwhelming evidence that it is actually something else. Imam Sadiq said 'Leave that which you don't know for that which you know'. In other words if you are not sure of something, then assume it is what it is apparently. Another way to say it that if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it's a duck. To say it's not a duck would require strong and conclusive counter evidence. 

We can't assume what will happen in the future without evidence. We have to operate based on what we know at this point in time. What we know is that we live in an (apparent) democracy with a big * next to that phrase. Whatever rights we have under that democracy we should exercise them based on our values as Muslims. That is all I was trying to say. 

On the Day of Judgement, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will not ask us about things that we had some evidence for but were not 100% sure of. He(s.w.a) will only question us about things we are sure of and if we followed those things. 

Brother which part is a conspiracy? Most of this is something that is known by so many people and even knowledgeable people who have studied how these countries work. The problem is way to many people are attached to some politician because hes so charming but this is not a wise decision, they should really look into what these politicians say and then do.

One recent example is "the squad", they talked and talked and talked about how they would do this and this and stop israel, give rights to workers, they will shake the democrats, etc... Once they got in power, they collapsed like cowards, one mean comment from nancy pelosi made one of them cry, they sent billions to israel in 2021, they aren't as harsh as they should be against israel now in this important moment, they don't do to workers as much as they preach, etc... 

The problem is way too many people are blinded by liberalism because of trump derangement syndrome and by conservatism because WEF will make us all slaves, that they don't see the bigger picture, they're stuck in this ridiculous tribalism, electing corrupt leader after another which will cause more and more bloodshed. This is how politicians divide and conquer. It's absolutely not a conspiracy, with all due respect.

 

It's also an option to not vote as a form of protest, you don't have to vote for a candidate that will cause bloodshed. You don't have to buy into this "lesser of two evils" alarmist nonsense. 

Edited January 25, 2024 by HusseinAbbas

[Lion of Shia]

On 1/24/2024 at 5:57 AM, Abu Hadi said:

This is becoming more and more likely although I think there is still a strong possibility that it wouldn't happen. 

Biden is dropping in the poles 'like a stone' because of his unconditional support of the Gaza genocide. He has lost the muslim votes, almost entirely, as he should, and most of the left of the Democratic party. So his chances of getting re elected are slim to none at this point. Since Trump is by far the frontrunner in the Republican party, having won both of the last two primaries by a sizeable margin, I think there is only one thing that could stop him, which is something that has a strong possibility of happening. 

The Democrats will drop Biden as their candidate citing health reasons or something else, and will run another popular figure like the Gov of California, Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama. This would present a strong challenge to Trump. 

At the same time, we as muslims, and especially those who live in the US, need to prepare ourselves for a possible Trump victory. I think the main part of this would be networking various muslim and other groups together (so long as they are respectful of our values and don't stand in opposition to Islam) to form an 'axis of political resistance' to the coming Trump policies (if he is elected) which will be much more extreme than before because he doesn't have to worry about getting re elected. 

Many African Americans are abondoning biden too. I see some are even going to trump so are latinos.  

[The Green Knight]

I believe that with respect to the foreign policy, Biden has created a snowball of war that even if he want to Trump can not stop. Domestically Trump failed to "drain the swamp" last time and we know only the awaited will do those things.

[Ahmad8888]

4 hours ago, The Green Knight said:

I believe that with respect to the foreign policy, Biden has created a snowball of war that even if he want to Trump can not stop. Domestically Trump failed to "drain the swamp" last time and we know only the awaited will do those things.

Trump will not be able to stop this, however I beleive he will panic and try to stop it. 

People need to understand two things about trump:

1) he believes war is bad for business.

2) Hes business man corrupt, hes not politician level corrupt. Unlike people like biden, bush, nixon, clinton, etc... who have been doing this for decades. He cannot stomach that stuff. In the beginning of his presidency he was disturbed when he talked to families of dead american soldiers, meaning he doesn't have the guts to be put in a position similar to biden, obama, bush, etc... It's why he didn't start a new war. 

You can even see it with obama, even though hes corrupt lile a politician and hes a war criminal who helped kill millions in the middle east, even that corrupt guy had grey hair at the end of his term, even that evil guy, it took a toll on him. So imagine trump whos only used to being businessman corrupt, it would make him collapse from guilt.