Honeymoon in ummrah

[Guest JustAGuest]

Salam everyone, is it possible to go to ummrah for honeymoon?? And if so is it allowed to have a physical relationship with my spouse while we are on honeymoon in ummrah or shall we not engage in anything of that matter until the 10days of ummrah is done ? Also would it be hard on a newly wed couples to refrain from engaging in a physical relationship in the first days of their marriage ?  Could someone please clarify. 

[Meedy]

I don't know the answer to be honest with you. I would say just focus on your ummrah and when you finished from Ummrah then have the physical relationship without worries. 

[Haji 2003]

On 1/4/2024 at 3:41 AM, Guest JustAGuest said:

Also would it be hard on a newly wed couples to refrain from engaging in a physical relationship in the first days of their marriage ?

Layperson here.

You will be in ihram on the journey from your miqat to Mecca - i.e. no physical contact etc.

Once you reach Mecca you'd likely do your tawaf/sa'yee shortly after arriving. One option is to finish your Umrah at that point and come out of ihram. At which point conjugal relations are ok.

You can then (after ghusl etc.) do as many tawaf as you like. The new Saudi Nusuk app permitting etc. The more complicated option is to leave Mecca, put on an ihram again at the Masjid Ayesha (I think) and do a second Umra.

I did umrah around this time last year and if things are the same as they were then, the Saudis really want people to do their Umra quickly and move on.

So overall, I don't think it should be too challenging in terms of 'keeping your hands off each other', and given various challenges, it can be considered a good team-building activity. 

(Errors and omissions excepted etc.)

[ShiaMan14]

On 1/3/2024 at 9:41 PM, Guest JustAGuest said:

Salam everyone, is it possible to go to ummrah for honeymoon?? And if so is it allowed to have a physical relationship with my spouse while we are on honeymoon in ummrah or shall we not engage in anything of that matter until the 10days of ummrah is done ? Also would it be hard on a newly wed couples to refrain from engaging in a physical relationship in the first days of their marriage ?  Could someone please clarify. 

You can't have relations while you are in ihram.

You can do umrah in a matter of hours so it shouldnt be too difficult so it really depends on when/where you start observing ihram. 

FYI - when I did hajj a few years ago, there was a young married couple on their 'honeymoon' which we were all surprised by but what better way to start a marriage.

Edited January 5, 2024 by ShiaMan14

[Ashvazdanghe]

15 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

You will be in ihram on the journey from your miqat to Mecca - i.e. no physical contact etc.

Once you reach Mecca you'd likely do your tawaf/sa'yee shortly after arriving. One option is to finish your Umrah at that point and come out of ihram. At which point conjugal relations are ok.

You can then (after ghusl etc.) do as many tawaf as you like. The new Saudi Nusuk app permitting etc. The more complicated option is to leave Mecca, put on an ihram again at the Masjid Ayesha (I think) and do a second Umra.

I did umrah around this time last year and if things are the same as they were then, the Saudis really want people to do their Umra quickly and move on.

So overall, I don't think it should be too challenging in terms of 'keeping your hands off each other', and given various challenges, it can be considered a good team-building activity. 

(Errors and omissi

Salam

Section One: Mut'a Of Hajj

What Is The Mut'a Of Hajj?

In mut'a of Hajj, a pilgrim wears ihram garment in Hajj months at Miqat and then leaves it for the house of Allah in order to perform Tamattu'a Hajj. [After arriving at the house of Allah], He circumambulates, walks between Safa and Mawa, does taqsir1 and then gets out of the state of ihram. Thereupon he once again enters the state of ihram in the same journey in Mecca or preferably at the Sacred Mosque. Thereupon he goes towards 'Arafat and Mash'ar al-Haram performing Hajj rituals to the end.

By doing this, he is able to perform tamatu'a Hajj and Umra [in the same journey]. The term 'mut'a' means pleasure and enjoyment. In this kind of Hajj, things that are prohibited during ihram, are allowed in the interval between ihrams. That is why it is called mut'a of Hajj.

https://www.al-islam.org/prohibition-two-lawful-pleasures-sayyid-ali-al-husayni-al-milani/section-one-muta-hajj

[SO SOLID SHIA]

On 1/5/2024 at 6:04 AM, Meedy said:

I don't know the answer to be honest with you. I would say just focus on your ummrah and when you finished from Ummrah then have the physical relationship without worries. 

What if the whole time they were trying to focus on the Umrah but they couldn't? What now buddy 

BTW I can't stand newly wed couples. That forehead kiss trend makes me sick. 

Edited January 6, 2024 by SO SOLID SHIA

[Meedy]

56 minutes ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

On 1/5/2024 at 5:04 PM, Meedy said:

I don't know the answer to be honest with you. I would say just focus on your ummrah and when you finished from Ummrah then have the physical relationship without worries. 

What if the whole time they were trying to focus on the Umrah but they couldn't? What now buddy 

Your Majesty, I did say I don't know the answer. If they are unable to find the correct answer then leave it for after ummrah but if you do know the answer, please do say. 

Edited January 6, 2024 by Meedy

[123xo]

2 hours ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

What if the whole time they were trying to focus on the Umrah but they couldn't? What now buddy 

BTW I can't stand newly wed couples. That forehead kiss trend makes me sick. 

You're just jealous, you ain't got no forehead to kiss

[SO SOLID SHIA]

On 1/6/2024 at 1:14 PM, 123xo said:

You're just jealous, you ain't got no forehead to kiss

I have ample space on my forehead Alhamdulilah, but not for the whole ummah

[123xo]

2 hours ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

I have ample space on my forehead Alhamdulilah, but not for the whole ummah

I wasn't talking about your forehead though.... unless you want it to be kissed like them newly wedded gurlz

On 1/6/2024 at 9:19 PM, SO SOLID SHIA said:

BTW I can't stand newly wed couples. That forehead kiss trend makes me sick. 

 

[SO SOLID SHIA]

On 1/7/2024 at 11:57 PM, 123xo said:

On 1/7/2024 at 9:14 PM, SO SOLID SHIA said:

I have ample space on my forehead Alhamdulilah, but not for the whole ummah

I wasn't talking about your forehead though

I know I know you were implying I don't have somebody who has a forehead that I could potentially kiss in a public display of Islamic romance.. The reality of the situation is there are many a suitress lining up to have such photo opportunities alhamdulilah.. Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) when he gives, gives generously ... I found out one even performed a special night ritual and Prayer of Jafar Al Tayyar to get this picture taken... Do you know any people who would do these kinds of things daaaaamn.