Israel-Hizbollah Conflict 2023/2024

[Haji 2003]

Green light for Netanyahu?

 

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Indeed, rather than ending the war in Gaza, many Israelis believe the state should be escalating on another front: the northern border with Lebanon. Locals there have long feared that the powerful Iran-backed militant group Hizbollah could one day launch a similar attack to the one Hamas carried out in Israel’s south.

https://www.ft.com/content/b0fc46cc-5585-4255-a23f-aab044148a7d

[Haji 2003]

...not a member of Netanyahu's coalition... but still

[علوي]

Hezbollah Fire Rockets at Israeli Forces Illegally Occupying Syria's Golan Heights

 

 

[علوي]

Beirut, Lebanon

[Guest Kazz]

This is the world of imperfection and lack of ideals , any religion that is strictly idealistic in this world , will not succeed to govern and rule . A religion that adapts and is somewhat elastic in its values will be more successful . For example , in a modern war , a civilian causalty is an unfortunate necessary consequence, if your religion wont allow you to go to war because you want to avoid that possibilty , then its not a practical religion , and you might as well just surrender to the enemy because you are too idealisitc. And a religion that can not be applied unless an infallable supervisor is there is also not a pracfical religion . 

[علوي]

Hezbollah Thwarts Israeli Infiltration Attempts into Lebanese Territory

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In a statement, Hezbollah confirmed that its fighters engaged with missiles an Israeli occupation military force attempting to infiltrate into Lebanese territory in the Wadi Qatmoun area opposite the village of Rmeish on Sunday at 11:45 PM, achieving direct hits.
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Later, the Resistance mentioned that its fighters detonated a large explosive device against an Israeli occupation force from the Golani Brigade attempting to infiltrate into Lebanese territory from the direction of “Khirbet Zar’it” opposite the town of Ramya on Monday at 12:15 AM. Hezbollah fighters then targeted the infiltrating Israeli occupation force with several artillery shells, causing direct hits.

https://english.almanar.com.lb/2057750

[علوي]

accuracy…

[Eddie Mecca]

Hezbollah SLAMS Israeli Surveillance Base With Rockets - Richard Medhurst - 9 minutes 6 seconds 

 

[Eddie Mecca]

Nasrallah Destroys Israel In Fiery Speech - Richard Medhurst - 11 minutes 22 seconds

 

[Haji 2003]

Would some of those fighters be AnsarAllah?

 

 

[root]

On 6/6/2024 at 8:51 PM, Haji 2003 said:

Would some of those fighters be AnsarAllah?

 

 

You could say a 1000 words about the fighting prowess of IRGC, Hezbollah, Hamas, Vietcong, Russians, American Army, etc etc.....but these Yemenis are something else.........their skin is made of teflon and their battle endurance is unmatched.

[Haji 2003]

6 hours ago, root said:

their skin is made of teflon and their battle endurance is unmatched.

Somewhat relatedly, there's a lot of debate about what physical impact their strike on the USS Eisenhower did or did not have.

The fact remains though that the Eisenhower had to scuttle off to a nearby port.

Aircraft carriers are an important element of power projection. The fact that Ansarallah were able to do this will have global implications, I think.

[root]

2 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Somewhat relatedly, there's a lot of debate about what physical impact their strike on the USS Eisenhower did or did not have.

The fact remains though that the Eisenhower had to scuttle off to a nearby port.

Aircraft carriers are an important element of power projection. The fact that Ansarallah were able to do this will have global implications, I think.

Ability to do so is one thing, but the guts to do so is something else. These guys are born without the normal concept of fear.

[123SlaveOfAllah]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/19/israel-ready-for-all-out-war-in-lebanon

IOF has approved operational plans for Lebanese offensive. Is war inevitable?

[Abu Hadi]

On 6/20/2024 at 1:37 AM, 123SlaveOfAllah said:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/19/israel-ready-for-all-out-war-in-lebanon

IOF has approved operational plans for Lebanese offensive. Is war inevitable?

This has more to do with internal politics in Israel vs what they actually intend on doing. Most half way intelligent people in Israel know that a war with Hezb would do so much damage to their society and economy and lead to a mass exodus of jews out of the Zionist State. Most of them know that this is a wound the country would probably never recover from. They know that a war like this would end up destroying them in the process. So if you look thru the posturing and spin, it is highly unlikely, IMHO. 

[Silas]

On 6/20/2024 at 12:37 AM, 123SlaveOfAllah said:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/19/israel-ready-for-all-out-war-in-lebanon

IOF has approved operational plans for Lebanese offensive. Is war inevitable?

Israel is probably blackmailing the US with this. Saying to the Biden administration "either you support our invasion of Gaza and extermination of the Palestinians, or we will launch an all-out war against Lebanon"

[Shaheed786]

On 6/21/2024 at 7:36 PM, Abu Hadi said:

This has more to do with internal politics in Israel vs what they actually intend on doing. Most half way intelligent people in Israel know that a war with Hezb would do so much damage to their society and economy and lead to a mass exodus of jews out of the Zionist State. Most of them know that this is a wound the country would probably never recover from. They know that a war like this would end up destroying them in the process. So if you look thru the posturing and spin, it is highly unlikely, IMHO. 

In terms of its current conflict with Hezbollah and its previous exchange with Iran, Israel has already been strategically defeated, even without an all-out conflict. That's because it has failed to adhere to it's own so-called "escalation doctrine" which states that in any exchange with it's enemies, it must up the ante with each  round of attacks, thereby "having the last word" and restoring "deterrence." What happened in the case of Iran? Iran launched a direct attack on Israel, which it had never done before, requiring the US, UK and others to defend it. Israel's response was a whimper, despite all it's strong rhetoric. The same is the case with Hezbollah, who have forced 80k Zios from their homes in the north. There is really not much they can do, because they fear an all out conflict. In short, Israel is no longer able to unilaterally set the terms with it's enemies, a strategic defeat which will weigh heavily on their society. 
 
But I wouldn't be so quick to underestimate just how irrational Israeli society and its current leaders currently are. We can view many of the world's current conflicts from the lens of the decline of western power. Israel is an extension of the western world, which has reacted to the transition to a multi-polar world order with a mixture of denial, arrogance and self-defeating behavior. Just look at the dangerous (and ultimately ineffective) behavior of the US (and their European lackeys) toward Russia and China of late. Even before the current conflict, Israeli society was tearing itself part, part of the same existential crisis that is gripping Western civilization. They are crumbling under their own contradictions. 

We are living through a massive paradigm shift, and history suggests that we should expect major upheavals. I don't expect much rational thought or behavior from the declining powers over the coming years...

[Lion of Shia]

is WWIII intevitable?

[Eddie Mecca]

1 hour ago, Lion of Shia said:

is WWIII intevitable?

It's possible that it can be avoided from an Islamic eschatological viewpoint but it's highly unlikely 

[Abu Hadi]

On 6/23/2024 at 10:31 AM, Shaheed786 said:

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But I wouldn't be so quick to underestimate just how irrational Israeli society and its current leaders currently are. We can view many of the world's current conflicts from the lens of the decline of western power. Israel is an extension of the western world, which has reacted to the transition to a multi-polar world order with a mixture of denial, arrogance and self-defeating behavior. Just look at the dangerous (and ultimately ineffective) behavior of the US (and their European lackeys) toward Russia and China of late. Even before the current conflict, Israeli society was tearing itself part, part of the same existential crisis that is gripping Western civilization. They are crumbling under their own contradictions. 

We are living through a massive paradigm shift, and history suggests that we should expect major upheavals. I don't expect much rational thought or behavior from the declining powers over the coming years...

I agree that they are irrational when it comes to certain issue, but ultimately at the end of the day the 'Western' powers have only survived this long by having a laser focus on their own self interests, to the detriment of the rest of the world, btw. They realize that (and this is discussed at length in the academic circles like the foreign policy institutes in the US) in order for the Zionist state to survive as a state they must avoid a large scale conflict with the axis of resistance. The US and Zionists fully realize that they are incapable of surviving a long protracted war that pulls in all or most of the players in the axis. It is highly, highly unlikely (but not impossible) IMHO that they will do something deliberately to start this long, protracted war. It might start anyway, by accident, but not by a deliberate action from them. 

They posture and make blustering statements in public but what goes on behind the scenes is completely different. Behind the scenes, it is all about self preservation and if preservation of their hegemonic power conflicts with self preservation, they will drop the hegemonic power thing. You are correct that we are moving toward or already in a multi polar world and there is nothing the US or the Zionists can do about that at this point. They realize this as well as we do. Now it is about managing the multi polarity (for them) to preserve as big a slice of the global pie for themselves as they can, while continuing to exist (thus the self preservation). 

Edited June 25, 2024 by Abu Hadi

[Shaheed786]

2 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

I agree that they are irrational when it comes to certain issue, but ultimately at the end of the day the 'Western' powers have only survived this long by having a laser focus on their own self interests, to the detriment of the rest of the world, btw. They realize that (and this is discussed at length in the academic circles like the foreign policy institutes in the US) in order for the Zionist state to survive as a state they must avoid a large scale conflict with the axis of resistance. The US and Zionists fully realize that they are incapable of surviving a long protracted war that pulls in all or most of the players in the axis. It is highly, highly unlikely (but not impossible) IMHO that they will do something deliberately to start this long, protracted war. It might start anyway, by accident, but not by a deliberate action from them. 

They posture and make blustering statements in public but what goes on behind the scenes is completely different. Behind the scenes, it is all about self preservation and if preservation of their hegemonic power conflicts with self preservation, they will drop the hegemonic power thing. You are correct that we are moving toward or already in a multi polar world and there is nothing the US or the Zionists can do about that at this point. They realize this as well as we do. Now it is about managing the multi polarity (for them) to preserve as big a slice of the global pie for themselves as they can, while continuing to exist (thus the self preservation). 

You make some good points and I pray that you are right. I'll just say that given the West's downward spiral over the last several decades and self-defeating behavior (electing Trump, Brexit etc..), combined with countless historical examples of empires in their death throes behaving very belligerently and erratically, nothing would surprise me at this point. 

[Abu Nur]

I believe they will go full war soon. It has nothing to do with rationality anymore, but lunacy that they have been received by obeying Shaytan all these years. These are the beginning of the final time, war upon war in every corner of earth till it reach such a destruction that Imam Mehdi (عليه السلام) will appear.

[Eddie Mecca]

Professor Mohammad Marandi on a potential Israeli war w/ Lebanon - 2 minutes - Al Mayadeen English

 

[Eddie Mecca]

On 6/25/2024 at 7:36 AM, Abu Hadi said:

at the end of the day the 'Western' powers have only survived this long by having a laser focus on their own self interests

 

On 6/25/2024 at 7:36 AM, Abu Hadi said:

Behind the scenes, it is all about self preservation and if preservation of their hegemonic power conflicts with self preservation, they will drop the hegemonic power thing. You are correct that we are moving toward or already in a multi polar world and there is nothing the US or the Zionists can do about that at this point. They realize this as well as we do. Now it is about managing the multi polarity (for them) to preserve as big a slice of the global pie for themselves as they can, while continuing to exist (thus the self preservation). 

Salaam...we must view all geopolitical analysis within the lens of Islamic eschatology...if we don't then we're missing the boat...America's inception was established on a faulty and demonic foundation...genocide, slavery, greed etc....no good can ever come from anything built on such a starting point...regardless of how many neat electronic gizmos invented...regardless of how many technological gadgets devised and/or scientific breakthroughs conceived...I think we entered a new phase in 2016...things haven't been making sense since...domestic policies, foreign policy, war strategies etc....it will make less and less sense as time progresses...Satan is making contradictory schemes fair-seeming to them...during the 50's through the 90's it seemed like the US, Britain and Israel were pragmatists acting in a calculated manner...but what's self-preserving about sending all US factories abroad to Mexico, India, China etc.? What's rational and pragmatic about selling swaths of US farmland to foreign adversaries (e.g. China, Saudi Arabia etc.)?...we all know how spoiled bullies behave when their authority is threatened...they'll do everything within their power to prevent a multipolar world from happening even all-out nuclear conflict...when you have a big hammer every problem looks like a nail...during the final days of the Third Reich the Germans were desperately calculating military plans of actions based on occult apprehensions...human sacrifice coincided alongside technological advances in Mesoamerica...the two contradictions subsisted in harmony side-by-side

Edited July 3, 2024 by Eddie Mecca
correction

[Eddie Mecca]

Richard Medhurst LIVE STREAM - Streamed 3 hours ago - Will Israel Invade Lebanon? UK Election Results, French Elections & More - 3 hours

 

[Eddie Mecca]

IDF assassinated a prominent member of Hezbollah’s air defense unit...Maytham Mustafa Al-Attar was hit by a missile while driving near the entrance to the town of Shaat in the northeastern Baalbek district — a Hezbollah stronghold — around 100 kilometers from the Israeli border. 

[Haji 2003]

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext

[hamz786]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/nine-people-killed-rocket-hits-football-pitch-israeli-occupied-golan-israel-2024-07-27/

I guess Israel has now gotten a stronger reason to escalate in Lebanon.

Edited July 27, 2024 by hamz786

[Diaz]

1 hour ago, hamz786 said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/nine-people-killed-rocket-hits-football-pitch-israeli-occupied-golan-israel-2024-07-27/

I guess Israel has now gotten a stronger reason to escalate in Lebanon.

They don’t, Hezbollah already denied it and there is tons of Prove Hezbollah did not do it. 

[Abu Nur]

38 minutes ago, Diaz said:

They don’t, Hezbollah already denied it and there is tons of Prove Hezbollah did not do it. 

Of course they don't, only sick heart believe in Israel claims. It is clearly that the baby killers planned this sick act to justify invading lebanon in front of western world. May God cut their plans and destroy them utter destruction.

Edited July 28, 2024 by Abu Nur

[hamz786]

On 7/28/2024 at 1:01 AM, Abu Nur said:

Of course they don't, only sick heart believe in Israel claims. It is clearly that the baby killers planned this sick act to justify invading lebanon in front of western world. May God cut their plans and destroy them utter destruction.

This is what I first suspected however has anything been proven yet?

Everyone in the West is certain Hezbollah caused these deaths. Is it not possible it was a mistake on their part.

[Abu Nur]

2 hours ago, hamz786 said:

This is what I first suspected however has anything been proven yet?

Everyone in the West is certain Hezbollah caused these deaths. Is it not possible it was a mistake on their part.

I don't really care what west think. If you really want certainty then open an investigation for non-Israel support countries to check it out, that will never happen.

[mahmood8726]

3 hours ago, hamz786 said:

This is what I first suspected however has anything been proven yet?

Everyone in the West is certain Hezbollah caused these deaths. Is it not possible it was a mistake on their part.

The reasonable beleif is that Israel did it.

Hezb straight up says when they do something and what they hit. Hitting this very specific area which is notorious for having pro Bashar al Assad dissidents within the druze community that constantly get arrested by the idf, on purpose is unlikely. By mistake? They would have said it. Unlike Israel, hezb doesn't have a track record of covering things up or lying, they tell you when an important commander from them dies or when they do something. 

 

Most than likely Israel's iron dome malfunctioning or even worse, a false flag from them to justify a war with Lebanon. 

[mahmood8726]

People of majdal shams protesting against natenyahu. 

 

 

[Diaz]

1 hour ago, Hussein999 said:

People of majdal shams protesting against natenyahu. 

 

 

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