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The Israeli Regime Is Finished - Sabrina Salvati w/ guest Seyed Mohammad Marandi - 1 hour 2 minutes - released 10 hours ago

 

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Don't ignore the trauma that people in Dubai are facing

They need an escape too ...

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Asked whether now — amid rising tensions in the Middle East — is the right time for a large-scale consumer-facing event, [cosmetics exhibition] Panossian replies: “There’s no better time than now.” Consumers in the region are looking for an escape, she adds, pointing out that several music festivals also took place the same weekend in Dubai.

https://www.voguebusiness.com/story/beauty/why-sephorias-middle-east-debut-matters

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On 11/14/2024 at 12:45 PM, Haji 2003 said:

Don't ignore the trauma that people in Dubai are facing

They need an escape too ...

 

On 11/14/2024 at 12:45 PM, Haji 2003 said:

she adds, pointing out that several music festivals also took place the same weekend in Dubai.

Salam this not just Dubai which in similar fashion Riyadh  will have a music festivals too as "mdlbeast" (soundstorm-2024) which inappropriate attending & performance of  Jennifer Lopez & Celine Dion & other celebrities  on Wednesday night, November 13th in Saudi concert has caused anger & criticizing it by some Arab users in social media likewise Youtube.

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This comes after the Marry Me actress performed at the glamorous Elie Saab event in Riyadh on Wednesday night, November 13th.

The Ain’t Your Mama songstress added some bling to the evening wearing a silver dress, as per a video shared on Instagram.

The mom of two wore her hair down for the occasion as she took over the stage during the annual winter entertainment festival.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1251177-jennifer-lopez-appears-refreshed-after-saudi-concert-amid-ben-affleck-split

Riyadh lights up as Celine Dion and Jennifer Lopez dazzle at Elie Saab's 45th-anniversary celebration

 

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The evening saw other big names take the stage, including Egyptian sensation Amr Diab and Lebanese pop star Nancy Ajram.

Each artist appeared dressed in Saab’s creations, underscoring the night’s theme of fashion and glamour.

In a touching nod to the designer, Halle Berry donned the iconic Saab gown she wore when she made history at the Oscars in 2002, adding a sense of nostalgia and reverence to the celebration.

The show brought together stars from across the Arab world, including Egyptian icon Yousra, who led a parade of luminaries from the arts world.

 

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Turki Al-Sheikh, chairman of the Board of Directors of General Entertainment Authority (GEA), shared exclusive photos and videos from the event on his official “X” account, showcasing moments from the unforgettable evening.

Notice : links contain inappropriate dressing ( nudity) according to islamic rulings .

https://www.saudigazette.com.sa/article/647056/SAUDI-ARABIA/Riyadh-lights-up-as-Celine-Dion-and-Jennifer-Lopez-dazzle-at-Elie-Saabs-45th-anniversary-celebration

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2579235/lifestyle

 

KSA links for advertisement 12 Dec 2024 - 14 Dec 2024, Riyadh 

https://mdlbeast.com/events/soundstorm-2024

https://www.visitsaudi.com/en/stories/mdlbeast-soundstorm-guide

 

related links (advertisement)

https://www.timeoutriyadh.com/news/mdlbeast-soundstorm

https://www.cntraveller.com/bc/article/soundstorm-mdl-beast-saudi-music-festival

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Genocide

The post below has lots of references, to a range of sources.

 

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10 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Genocide

The post below has lots of references, to a range of sources.

 

I think ethnic cleansing is a better word, and harder for people to deny.  People can debate the term genocide by saying it's all just "collateral damage" and stuff.  But there's no denying that they are ethnic cleansing and trying to clear land of Arabs, both in the Gaza strip and West Bank.

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10 hours ago, coldcow said:

I think ethnic cleansing is a better word, and harder for people to deny.  People can debate the term genocide by saying it's all just "collateral damage" and stuff.  But there's no denying that they are ethnic cleansing and trying to clear land of Arabs, both in the Gaza strip and West Bank.

 

This is from the Genocide convention:

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https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.pdf

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12 hours ago, coldcow said:

I think ethnic cleansing is a better word, and harder for people to deny.  People can debate the term genocide by saying it's all just "collateral damage" and stuff.  But there's no denying that they are ethnic cleansing and trying to clear land of Arabs, both in the Gaza strip and West Bank.

They can make all the excuses they want, just like when they bomb ambulances and lie about the ambulances having missiles.

 

In my village alone, they bombed a medical center, killed the 80 year old mayor(they lied said it was an accident), bombed the electrical grid, bombed a convenience store owned by a cripple on a wheelchair and killed many paramedics. 

 

The reality is they said genocidal statements and proceeded to target the civilians and people as a whole and all of their infrastructure/society whilst giving pathetic excuses about collateral damage and "human sheilds", etc... we have their intent and their actions. 

 

Also, for the record, ethnic cleansing requires most of the time a genocide to be commited. The reality is its both, ethnic cleansing and genocide.

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From Ha'aretz:

"Division Commander Itzik Cohen, commander of Division 162 operating in northern Gaza, explained to reporters: "No one is returning to the northern part... We received very clear orders. My task is to create a cleansing of the area.""

 

@coldcow here is your confirmation of ethnic cleansing atleast. Forget denying it, they're admitting it.

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4 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

Division Commander Itzik Cohen, commander of Division 162 operating in northern Gaza, explained to reporters: "No one is returning to the northern part... We received very clear orders. My task is to create a cleansing of the area."

Quran 5:64-

“Whenever they [the Jews] kindle the fire of war, Allah puts it out.”

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On 11/17/2024 at 3:58 AM, mahmood8726 said:

and proceeded to target the civilians and people as a whole and all of their infrastructure/society whilst giving pathetic excuses about collateral damage and "human sheilds", etc... we have their intent and their actions. 

Yeah, but that's the thing.  Both ethnic cleansing and genocide is bad.  But it's far easier to prove ethnic cleansing in this case.  

People say things like "if it was really genocide then they're doing a really bad job at it" because they aren't killing more.  Or they're making token gestures to tell people to leave an area where they're going to start bombing.

But there is, in my mind, obvious evidence that they're trying to ethnically cleanse areas - if for no other reason than to create a new buffer zone, and probably to allow for more settlement building.

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1 hour ago, coldcow said:

Yeah, but that's the thing.  Both ethnic cleansing and genocide is bad.  But it's far easier to prove ethnic cleansing in this case.  

Yes, that doesn't mean we should give up on genocide if it's happening. You can prove both.

1 hour ago, coldcow said:

People say things like "if it was really genocide then they're doing a really bad job at it" because they aren't killing more.

Then the native americans weren't genocided, these kind of bad arguments don't hold in a court of law, these are bad polemics.

1 hour ago, coldcow said:

  Or they're making token gestures to tell people to leave an area where they're going to start bombing.

Hezbollah told Israelis to evacuate specific areas, if Israelis think it makes them moral, then hezb according to them is moral :D. This again is not a good argument, warning people you will genocide them if they dont comply will not hold in a court of law. 

1 hour ago, coldcow said:

But there is, in my mind, obvious evidence that they're trying to ethnically cleanse areas - if for no other reason than to create a new buffer zone, and probably to allow for more settlement building.

There is also obvious evidence theyre genociding. They litterally gave you the genocidal intent on a silver platter and commited the genocide to back up their intent. Their argument "we said these statements towards hamas only" don't hold up well given their actions and the history of their actions. It's clear as day this is genocide and them ethnic cleansing the Palestinians hits the nail in the coffin for any doubt that this is a genocide, they exterminated all aspects of Palestinian life in Gaza. 

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Gazan aid thieves operating with 'passive if not active benevolence of IDF' - UN

 

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Gaza’s most notorious gangster was rumoured to be dead on Monday after local security forces launched a rare ambush against criminal groups, killing as many as 22 people days after armed looters had robbed a convoy of UN aid trucks.

But the very next day Yasser Abu Shabab emerged defiant, his men shutting down the road with a burning fuel truck to block aid trucks as payback, according to a senior UN official and two transport industry insiders.

The swift show of force underscores the rising power of Abu Shabab and other gangs in Gaza, who have in recent months developed a lucrative trade robbing aid trucks travelling into the enclave.

These gangsters act, humanitarian officials and Palestinian transporters allege, with the tacit permission of the Israeli military: what a UN memo seen by the Financial Times called “the passive, if not active benevolence” of the Israel Defense Forces.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/6a039600-d4f3-4aaa-ae0f-e4ca72cf2268

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On 11/22/2024 at 9:16 PM, coldcow said:

The reality is that public opinion matters more than the court of law, at least when it comes to Israel.

Won't hold in the ICJ when Israel is dissolved as a state and all its criminals are fleeing to other countries the same way the nazis did after ww2 to Argentina.

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6 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

Won't hold in the ICJ when Israel is dissolved as a state and all its criminals are fleeing to other countries the same way the nazis did after ww2 to Argentina.

Optimistic thinking, but I doubt that happens.  The only way I see that happening is if people who actually hate Jews, just for being Jews (not for being zionists), come to power in not only the US, but in multiple other Western countries, and the populations of those countries start hating Jews again.  

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Where is the middle finger emoji? Now Shias who voted for him should be ashamed of themselves 

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In one of the Telegram gc, there's supposed confirmation that the Trump message is real and he's willing to send in troops to get the hostages out. Increasing the possibility of US soldiers on Gazan soil. I'm reminded of the Hadith that says the Romans will reach Al-Ramla, maybe this is where it happens. With that said it may or may not even happen. 

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4 hours ago, hamz786 said:

In one of the Telegram gc, there's supposed confirmation that the Trump message is real and he's willing to send in troops to get the hostages out. Increasing the possibility of US soldiers on Gazan soil. I'm reminded of the Hadith that says the Romans will reach Al-Ramla, maybe this is where it happens. With that said it may or may not even happen. 

Trumps threat is to send the marines to get the 7 American hostages out in hamas custody.

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16 hours ago, Diaz said:

Where is the middle finger emoji? Now Shias who voted for him should be ashamed of themselves 

Did any Shias wote for Trump? Some Wahabis might have done, but Shia? 
By the way. I think that Trump is a big mouth, who doesn't know the scope of what he is saying.

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Turkey arrests nine youth over protest against Azarbaijani fuel and etc. transfer to Israel through Turkey.

https://www.instagram.com/filistinicin1000genc/p/DDFS3BRocNr/

https://www.instagram.com/p/DDFZ6FzNWac/

In the meantime, social media accounts of Turkish influencers go like; "82 Aleppo, 83 Karkuk" (There are 81 cities in Turkey. And so the aim is to invade and annex Iraqi and Syrian cities).

It is interesting the so called jihadists all over the world only "pray" for Palestine but they fight against Syria, the only Arab country that arms Palestinian and Lebanese resistance.

So, it is not Islamic Jihad they wage. It is NATO jihad against Muslims.

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“My name is Amos Goldberg. I am an Israeli Professor of Holocaust Studies.

 

For nearly 30 years I have researched and taught the Holocaust, genocide and state violence. And I want to tell whoever is willing to listen that what’s happening now in Gaza is a genocide. A year ago when October 7th happened, like all Israelis I was in shock. It was a war crime and a crime against humanity. 1200 people - more than 800 of them civilians - were killed in one day. Children and the elderly were among those taken hostage. Communities were destroyed. It was outrageous, traumatizing, personal. Like most Israelis, I know people who were killed, who lost loved ones or whose loved ones were taken hostage.

But immediately afterwards came Israel’s response and within weeks thousands of civilians were killed in Gaza. It took me some time to digest what was unfolding before my eyes. It was agonizing to confront that reality. I was reluctant to call it a genocide. But if you read Raphael Lemkin – the Jewish-Polish legal scholar who coined the term ‘genocide’ and was the major driving force behind the 1948 United Nations Genocide Convention – what is happening in Gaza now is exactly what he had in mind when he spoke about genocide. It does not need to look like the Holocaust to be a genocide.

Each genocide looks different and not all involve killing of millions or the entire group. The United Nations Genocide Convention explicitly asserts that genocide is the act of deliberately destroying a group in whole or in part. Those are the words. But there does need to be a clear intent. And indeed, there are clear indications of intent to destroy Gaza: Israel’s leaders - including the prime minister and the minister of defence - and many high-ranking military officers, media personalities, rabbis, as well as ordinary soldiers were very open about what they wanted to achieve. There were countless documented incitements to turn the whole of Gaza into rubble and claims that there are no innocent people living there. A radical atmosphere of dehumanization of the Palestinians prevails in Israeli society to an extent that I can’t remember in my 58 years of living here. Now that vision has been enacted. Tens of thousands of innocent children, women and men have been killed. Over a hundred thousand were wounded.

There is a near total destruction of infrastructure, intentional starvation and blocking of humanitarian aid. There are mass graves and reliable testimony of summary executions. Children that were shot by snipers. All the universities and almost all hospitals are gone. Almost all the population is displaced. There have been numerous bombings of civilians in so-called ‘safe zones’. Gaza does not exist anymore. It is completely destroyed. Thus, the outcome fits perfectly with the stated intentions of Israel’s leadership.

Lemkin - that scholar who coined the term ‘genocide’ - described two phases of a genocide. The first is the destruction of the annihilated group and the second is what he called ‘imposition of the national pattern’ of the perpetrator. We are now witnessing the second phase as Israel prepares ethnically cleansed areas for Israeli settlements. And therefore, I have come to the conclusion that this is exactly what a genocide looks like. We don’t teach about genocides in order to realize it retrospectively. We teach about it in order to prevent it and to stop it. But like in every other case of genocide in history right now we have mass denial. Both here in Israel and around the world. But reality cannot be denied. So yes, it is a genocide. And once you come to this conclusion you cannot remain silent.” - Statement to Led By Donkeys, December 2024 - Photo: Parliament Square, London, 8.40am, 4th December 2024

https://x.com/ByDonkeys/status/1864248466278318427

 

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