Hamas Surprise Attack: Operation 'Al-Aqsa Storm'

[Haji 2003]

 

[Muhammed Ali]

4 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

 

 

[Haji 2003]

6 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

 

the article has this at the end:

 

[mahmood8726]

2 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

the article has this at the end:

 

Good heart but he vandalized property and participated in God knows what depravity. Ofcourse, since they're all "terrorists" it's not murder so it hurts her heart right? 

May Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) curse him to eternal jahannam him and his delusional sister. I hope fascist girl falls into a depression herself.

Edited October 21 by mahmood8726

[notme]

9 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

 

 

Murder is not good for the psyche. 

[Eddie Mecca]

On 10/19/2024 at 2:11 PM, mahmood8726 said:

Palestinians are not settler colonialists who are illegally living in someone else's land according to Islamic sharia and basic common sense. Israelis are.

Exactly...boo-ya...you nailed it...I concur 100%

On 10/19/2024 at 2:11 PM, mahmood8726 said:

Eddie's problem is he uses this as a pretext to justify the killing of their unarmed women and unarmed men (@Eddie Meccacorrect me If that's not your views), that still isn't allowed in islam.

1.) There's talk of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei walking back the ban on nuclear weapons if he believes an existential threat exists to the Muslim world or the Iranian nation.

2.) Hassan Nasrallah (Allah's mercy be upon him) stated on numerous occasions that if Hezbollah feels it's boxed in...if the Lebanese people feel pushed into an existential corner and there's no other option...it would respond in a unrestrained manner...this includes indiscriminate targeting of so-called Israeli civilians 

 

Edited October 22 by Eddie Mecca
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[Eddie Mecca]

On 10/19/2024 at 2:11 PM, mahmood8726 said:

Eddie's problem is he uses this as a pretext to justify the killing of their unarmed women and unarmed men (@Eddie Meccacorrect me If that's not your views), that still isn't allowed in islam

Islamic military ethics need revision...the targeting of civilians is a primary goal of modern warfare...Westerners changed the goal posts during World War 1...the Muslim world didn't change the goal posts...the rules of warfare were changed by Europeans and it introduced new martial technologies like tanks, airplanes, submarines, poison gas, chemical weapons, white phosphorus, nuclear bombs dropped from on high (i.e. Nagasaki, Hiroshima etc.)...hence altering how battles were/are fought from this time onward (i.e. essentially marking the beginning of "modern warfare")...civilians are purposely targeted by democracies to either gain territory or punish populations and turn them against anti-Western belligerents 

[Eddie Mecca]

2 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Islamic military ethics need revision

Islamic military code of ethics was applicable from the founding of Medina (as the first Islamic state in 622 AD) to roughly 1914...modern era calls for a new, dynamic, creative rethinking of war strategies and associated permissibility of certain weapons...scholars are correct in recalculating military tactics but this should've been applied in 1945...not 2024...we are late as always (sigh)...that's my opinion on the matter and Allah knows best.

"And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allāh and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allāh knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allāh will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged." Anfal 8:60

Acquiring contemporary weapons and its technology is not only allowed but rather it is mandatory.

It is a deterrence against aggression and helps to protect the lives and property of the region.

Basically, it is an expenditure in the cause of Allah and is liable to reward.

It’s better to spend on developing strong military than to spend on war against aggressors.

Ignoring this command of Allah is fatal for survival as can be seen through the plundering of the Global South (especially in MENA).

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[realizm]

9 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

the article has this at the end:

 

Smile now, cry later I guess.

Let's pray that in the future his comrades will be hunted like the SS.

[Haji 2003]

Case study for psychologists

 

[mahmood8726]

6 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Islamic military ethics need revision...the targeting of civilians is a primary goal of modern warfare...Westerners changed the goal posts during World War 1...the Muslim world didn't change the goal posts...the rules of warfare were changed by Europeans and it introduced new martial technologies like tanks, airplanes, submarines, poison gas, chemical weapons, white phosphorus, nuclear bombs dropped from on high (i.e. Nagasaki, Hiroshima etc.)...hence altering how battles were/are fought from this time onward (i.e. essentially marking the beginning of "modern warfare")...civilians are purposely targeted by democracies to either gain territory or punish populations and turn them against anti-Western belligerents 

Civilians have always been targetted my friend. You had cannons, explosive cannons, catapults, catapulting dead diseased bodies into ennemy walled cities, you had the trebuchet destroying entire buildings, you had armies that would slaugther everyone like the mongols. These new weapons you mentionned are just new ways to kill civilians. Only the most extreem of conditions call for the most extreem of measures, islam doesn't disagree with this, but this thinking that new tech needs to make people revise their morals is insane. 

 

If they had non guided missiles that went into civilian areas like hamas or hezb has, I understand, It's due to not having the proper equipment, yehya sinwar even said if he had the proper bombs, he would have struck millitary bases. But purposefully killing unarmed people with your gun just for psyop operations? No, I don't think it's moral or even effective. 

[Sabrejet]

@Eddie Mecca pick one. Either the entirety of the population of Israel are not civilians, or civilians are fair game now.

Which one is it?

[Eddie Mecca]

17 hours ago, Sabrejet said:

@Eddie Mecca pick one. Either the entirety of the population of Israel are not civilians, or civilians are fair game now.

Which one is it?

Imagine a nuclear Iran standing side by side with a nuclear Pakistan with Imran Khan at the helm 

[Sabrejet]

5 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Imagine a nuclear Iran standing side by side with a nuclear Pakistan with Imran Khan at the helm 

So I take it that you consider no Israeli a civilian?

[mahmood8726]

On 10/23/2024 at 5:41 AM, Sabrejet said:

@Eddie Mecca pick one. Either the entirety of the population of Israel are not civilians, or civilians are fair game now.

Which one is it?

Even me who disagrees with Eddie can see he doesn't see Israelis as civilians as they are settler colonialists and most are reservist.

 

I disagree with him that their unarmed non combatant settlers should be killed, he thinks they should be given a taste of their own medicine, a lot of us including me here don't.

 

I don't understand why you're doing this ultimatum.

Edited October 25 by mahmood8726

[Sabrejet]

6 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

Even me who disagrees with Eddie can see he doesn't see Israelis as civilians as they are settler colonialists and most are reservist.

 

I disagree with him that their unarmed non combatant settlers should be killed, he thinks they should be given a taste of their own medicine, a lot of us including me here don't.

 

I don't understand why you're doing this ultimatum.

Because he doesn't give a direct answer when asked this question.

On the other hand, he advocated sacrificing Islamic principles in favour of military tactics. Read his views above.

Both of these views are toxic and wrong, and it's high time someone speaks against these views that give more ammo against the Palestinian cause to the Zionists.

Edited October 25 by Sabrejet

[Haji 2003]

Case Study 2

 

[Diaz]

27 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Case Study 2

 

Can you post what wrote in the letter? 

[AbdusSibtayn]

6 hours ago, Sabrejet said:

Because he doesn't give a direct answer when asked this question.

On the other hand, he advocated sacrificing Islamic principles in favour of military tactics. Read his views above.

Both of these views are toxic and wrong, and it's high time someone speaks against these views that give more ammo against the Palestinian cause to the Zionists.

Harming non -combatants, however hostile, is an unwise move going by both moral and even purely military considerations.

The reckless violence of the Zionists has helped shift the world opinion against them a great deal. For the first time many European nations like Spain have not only condemned but initiated diplomatic measures against the occupation. If we begin imitating them, then we have already lost the psychological war. That is exactly what they want, to drag us down to their level and then play the victim- "See! We told you all along that these baby-killer mass-rape perpetrator Muslims are a threat to everyone! You should be grateful that we are doing the dirty work of liquidating them, now support us and send us more money and weapons!"

It is a sure recipe for shooting oneself in the foot.

Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has made things haram for a reason.

[mahmood8726]

52 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Case Study 2

 

It means he killed thousands of women and children with his bombs. Lanatullah on him and inshallah he gets blown and decapitated in hell eternally by the angels there without mercy or giving him a second to breath.

[AbdusSibtayn]

53 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Case Study 2

 

Such sensitive and empathetic war criminals.

[mahmood8726]

https://t.me/warfareanalysis/98315

 

Seems like anti zionist jews in Israel protesting against Israeli warcrimes in tel aviv.

 

"Incredibly enough, they are brandishing banners saying “Stop the bombing”, “Stop ethnic cleansing”, “Stop genocide”, and “Stop war crimes”."

Even though they're jews, i still think they will go to prison, this is very courageous from them and they defenetly will be known in history books as the people who stood against injustice.  They're still standing there despite the israeli police beating them up.

 

Edited October 27 by mahmood8726

[ireallywannaknow]

24 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

https://t.me/warfareanalysis/98315

 

Seems like anti zionist jews in Israel protesting against Israeli warcrimes in tel aviv.

 

"Incredibly enough, they are brandishing banners saying “Stop the bombing”, “Stop ethnic cleansing”, “Stop genocide”, and “Stop war crimes”."

Even though they're jews, i still think they will go to prison, this is very courageous from them and they defenetly will be known in history books as the people who stood against injustice.  They're still standing there despite the israeli police beating them up.

 

Respectfully they are not anti Zionists. They are still Zionist but "liberal" Zionists. The fact that they live in Israel means they are Zionists. 

[mahmood8726]

32 minutes ago, ireallywannaknow said:

Respectfully they are not anti Zionists. They are still Zionist but "liberal" Zionists. The fact that they live in Israel means they are Zionists. 

No, these seem to be the anti zionist communists, they usually protest like this and usually after a few years immigrate to Europe or America because they dislike their society so much. They're like 0.02% of the population. Liberal zionists mostly support the idf just not "natenyahu", then you have a small portion of zionist liberals who are like Gideon Levi who call out israels crimes but are still zionists. 

 

But the people in this video I suspect are the communists.

[khadumvaliasr]

On 10/21/2024 at 11:30 PM, Eddie Mecca said:

..civilians are purposely targeted by democracies to either gain territory or punish populations and turn them against anti-Western belligerents 

This strategy has been used in Vietnam,  Iraq and Palestine for decades.... it doesn't work.

Also Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has provided all humans with basic ethics and morals , like killing of children and women is an anathema to even evil soldiers like the Israeli...if you talk to the Veterans of the above conflicts that killed innocents ...this results in PTSD, Suicidal and Homocidal tendencies which they then try to drown out with alcohol and drugs.  

Islamic war ethics avoids this issue, since we are judged on our niyyat , we don't intend to kill innocents and even try to avoid it, so our conscience remains clear. 

We must not abandon our ethics for expediency...that is what shaytan wants ...so you drop to the level of asfila safeyleen.

Karbala is our guide,  even in the worst of odds and against the most cruel of enemies,  the Hussainya forces never wavered in ethical and honorable combat.

 

[Haji 2003]

 

 

 

[coldcow]

Since I know people here are from many different countries, was curious if anyone lives in a place where it's pretty obvious the majority of the population supports Gaza, and wants peace, but the government is staunchly pro-Israel at all costs.

For example, the US is probably 40-40 with 20% not caring, but the government is staunchly Pro-Israel.  In Germany the government is also Pro-Israel, but I'm not sure what the people believe.

I think England probably is slight majority pro-Palestinian, although I'm not sure as there are a lot of Brits that hate Muslims/brown people.  Their government is certainly pro-Israel at the moment.

And, personal opinion, but some Arab countries like Jordan are Pro-Israel, but pretend to be pro palestinian, while their people are obviously very pro Palestinian.  

[Haji 2003]

Clinton wades in

 

"Bill Clinton went even further in his remarks, insisting “Israel” has a religious right to colonize “Judea and Samaria.” This was not a gaffe. No, one of the most gifted retail politicians of our time - and one of the most cynical personalities - knows exactly what he’s doing. Clinton denigrated Palestinians for the same reason he shouted down BLM activists at the end of Hillary’s doomed 2016 campaign, an encounter he subsequently described as a calculated attempt on his part to stave off a mass exodus of white male voters, not an angry outburst. This same thinking influenced Clinton during the final days of his first campaign for the presidency in 1992 to rush back to Arkansas to execute Ricky Ray Rector, a man with an IQ so low he did not even know he was going to be killed when he ordered his final Big Mac. No one could call him a soft on crime Dukakis liberal after that! Clinton views the US as a socially conservative country controlled by oligarchic forces like his top individual donor, the Zionist warlord Haim Saban. And clearly believes these same forces will put Kamala over the top if they can be convinced that she too will give a cold shoulder to Arabs, Muslims and pro-Palestine protesters. Clinton’s anti-Palestinian rant was not a gaffe, and don’t think for a moment Kamala HQ did not quietly approve it."

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1851850365219512440

 

[Diaz]

8 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Clinton wades in

 

"Bill Clinton went even further in his remarks, insisting “Israel” has a religious right to colonize “Judea and Samaria.” This was not a gaffe. No, one of the most gifted retail politicians of our time - and one of the most cynical personalities - knows exactly what he’s doing. Clinton denigrated Palestinians for the same reason he shouted down BLM activists at the end of Hillary’s doomed 2016 campaign, an encounter he subsequently described as a calculated attempt on his part to stave off a mass exodus of white male voters, not an angry outburst. This same thinking influenced Clinton during the final days of his first campaign for the presidency in 1992 to rush back to Arkansas to execute Ricky Ray Rector, a man with an IQ so low he did not even know he was going to be killed when he ordered his final Big Mac. No one could call him a soft on crime Dukakis liberal after that! Clinton views the US as a socially conservative country controlled by oligarchic forces like his top individual donor, the Zionist warlord Haim Saban. And clearly believes these same forces will put Kamala over the top if they can be convinced that she too will give a cold shoulder to Arabs, Muslims and pro-Palestine protesters. Clinton’s anti-Palestinian rant was not a gaffe, and don’t think for a moment Kamala HQ did not quietly approve it."

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1851850365219512440

 

Dude, reading all these kind of posts, I wonder if there is a chance Kamala will win the election. I mean first Biden and now Clinton, there is no way she will win.

[mahmood8726]

1 hour ago, Diaz said:

Dude, reading all these kind of posts, I wonder if there is a chance Kamala will win the election. I mean first Biden and now Clinton, there is no way she will win.

Kamala herself compared israels creation with the civil rights movement for black people in America. 

[Haji 2003]

 

[Syedraz]

 

[mahmood8726]

Major news if true, Qatar saying hamas isn't welcome in the country anymore.

this is reported by this Twitter account who is also reporting from JP. if someone can confirm this, it would be appreceated.

 

[Diaz]

1 hour ago, mahmood8726 said:

Major news if true, Qatar saying hamas isn't welcome in the country anymore.

this is reported by this Twitter account who is also reporting from JP. if someone can confirm this, it would be appreceated.

 

and whats the reason? I won't believe it until someone important from Qatar announced it. 

[mahmood8726]

2 hours ago, Diaz said:

and whats the reason? I won't believe it until someone important from Qatar announced it. 

Seems like fake news, it's being denied.