Segregated vs. Mixed Education

[Ibn Tayyar]

10 hours ago, 3wliya_maryam said:

Didn't Saffiya the daughter of Imam Hasan (عليه السلام) become a lecturer in Egypt, teaching male scholars?

It was said that Sayyeda Fatima al Zahra (عليه السلام) was also a teacher and she taught Jabir ibn Abdillah al Ansari who narrated Hadith al Kisa, otherwise how else would he have narrated it.

I heard this in one of the videos from Sayed Jawad al Qazwini, I'll see if i can find it when i have the time.

At the end of the day, it does depend on the setting and the environment. I do agree that male students do need more male teachers who are good so that they have a role model they can look up to.

 

They weren't teachers in a classroom setting. The companions of the Prophet used to ask his wives from behind a curtain, for example.

Narrating from women and asking them isn't an issue, the problem is mixing, which is men and women sitting around eachother and walking around eachother.

So these examples don't hold up.

[Diaz]

On 9/13/2023 at 4:29 PM, Ibn Tayyar said:

I will translate Sayyed Al-Sistani's fatwa.

Question: Is it permissible for me to study in mixed universities? And is it permissible to work in a mixed environment?

Answer: It is not permissible if the mixing leads to an infringement of a woman's duty with regards to a non-mahram man, or the opposite [gender], whether it be with respect to veiling, modesty or otherwise, and there is no objection if there is protection from that, and [it is] disliked.

Personally I have seen this question repeated multiple times on the Sayyed's website, but this is the only time I have seen the "dislike" addition, and it is only available on the Arabic section as far as I know.

Also what he meant by "if there is protection from that" is that if a person can maintain their Islamic duty, then it wouldn't be haram to free-mix in that particular environment, which is studying.

The Sayyed has other rulings on his website with respect to gyms, swimming pools, and the like.

Sayyed Al-Khoei is a bit more strict on the issue of school segregation, but I'm not sure anyone follows him here anyway so I won't translate unless requested by another brother or sister.

Hope this helps. Salam

Now I understand why our marja do not support mixed education, before I thought a haram relationship can happen between a students but this time I saw something else. This semester my class was mixed because not many students joined the uni so they can't make a lot of sections. One of my female classmate seduced our professor in front of the whole class, I still can't believe can make something like this in front of other. When I told to my elder sister about this, she told she always had at least 2 female classmate who seduced the professor (if he is a male) to get extra marks. That is very unpleasant. Anyway I did my duty as a student and reported it to the disciplinary committee and they did the needful. 

[JannahLM]

Honestly, no preference on this myself. I went to a co-ed public school myself and I turned out mostly fine. Honestly, most of the issues I have in adulthood stemmed from my rather messed up home life rather than anything happening at school.