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So recently I canceled my gym because the burden was getting too heavy. As you probably all noticed, these last years, gym culture has become quite popular for men and women, so as a result gyms are relatively more filled than a couple of years ago. Moreover, as you probably noticed as well, women clothing has become more degenerate, especially sports clothing, to the point where keeping your gaze down is not sufficient anymore. On top of that, the music in some of these gyms is so loud and obnoxious, even wearing headphones doesn't change it.

So I thought of an idea: a gym where only men can sign up with no music. What do you guys think?

PS: Where I live they already have women-only gyms so that issue needn't be addressed.

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Salam. 

I used to go to the gym and I came to the same conclusions you came to. It is now becoming impossible to just 'cast down your glance' at most gyms because it is all around you. You look up, down, sideways, etc you can't escape it. I came to the conclusion that the physical benefit I was getting by working out was not worth the spiritual and moral damage I was doing to myself by being there. I still work out, btw, but I got some equipment at home and I work out at home now. 

I think a men's only gym is a good idea but it would require a monumental change in the way brothers view the activity. Unless they care about 'casting down the gaze', and tbh even most Muslim brothers don't care about this (sorry to say) much less the non muslims, so a 'men's only' gym would have no appeal to them. Who it would appeal to is '...' you guessed it and you probably don't want to appeal to them. I am not saying it is a bad idea, but it needs alot more research to see if it is a viable business, because it would need to be run as a business. 

For now, I suggest brothers work out at home. There are tons of workouts you can do at home with no equipment or just a few pieces of inexpensive equipment that will get you in shape, so long as you follow a routine and a program and again, there are tons of those online that you can research and find the one that is most effective. Most of the brothers that go to the gym, it is because they want to be in that environment and be surrounded by those types of scenes, unfortunately. You and me are a small minority. 

BTW, the music part is not as big of a deal as the other thing. For the music, you can get some noise canceling bluetooth headphones and listen to news, lectures, audiobooks, etc while working out. The music part you can escape. The other part is difficult or impossible to escape. You can't walk around the gym with a blindfold on, lol. 

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4 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

tbh even most Muslim brothers don't care about this

Unfortunately, that's the number one feedback I got in real life when I presented the idea.

 

5 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

Who it would appeal to is '...' you guessed it and you probably don't want to appeal to them

I didn't even think of that.. yeah no I'll skip the idea then lol

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1 minute ago, Berber-Shia said:

Unfortunately, that's the number one feedback I got in real life when I presented the idea.

 

I didn't even think of that.. yeah no I'll skip the idea then lol

I don't want to discourage you, I am just saying you need to think about it from all angles

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The idea works if you somehow integrate it with a mosque or Islamic Center. This way you don't get undesirable visitors and at the same time you encourage people who attend the mosque to also join the gym. However you would need quite a large community for this idea to be financially viable 

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In the place where I live, we have only segregated gym but the music is really loud and it will be little bit difficult to ignore the Music because when you listen to lecture or other stuff like what brother abu hadi said, you can still hear the music which is annoying, unless you increase the volume till max and your ears might hurt. 
 

Me personally, I prefer jogging/walking and sometimes home workout without equipment. 

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3 hours ago, ShiaMan14 said:

Most gym memberships are so expensive that you may be better off buying exercise equipment instead...provided there is room of course.

How much does gym cost in the place where you live brother? Like decent gym not the luxury ones.

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8 hours ago, ShiaMan14 said:

Anywhere from $25 - $200 per month

Great, for us it starts from $80 to almost $500 per month xD

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In the US, due to increased and still increasing numbers of neurodiverse adults, many shopping and public places are introducing "sensory friendly" hours. When you are looking for a gym to join, ask if they have sensory friendly workout times. During those times lights may be dimmed some, and music volume will be decreased or music will be stopped.  

 

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1 hour ago, notme said:

In the US, due to increased and still increasing numbers of neurodiverse adults, many shopping and public places are introducing "sensory friendly" hours. When you are looking for a gym to join, ask if they have sensory friendly workout times. During those times lights may be dimmed some, and music volume will be decreased or music will be stopped.  

 

That's good to hear. I had the same idea because my son loves bowling but the deafeningly loud and obnoxious and haram music makes me think twice (same roller skating). So I was wondering why these types of places don't have quiet hours for people who don't want the music and or can't take that much sensory input. Good to know that initiative has already started to some extent. 

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2 hours ago, Diaz said:

Great, for us it starts from $80 to almost $500 per month xD

so like a bowflex <insert equipment of choice> runs from $600 - $800 so it pays off in less than 1 year.

so my wife and I used to go to the gym. Outside of the issues around dressing and music, it was becoming pricey. We only used their elliptical and some weight machines so we ended up cancelling our membership and then bought an elliptical for $450 and some weights.

we put the elliptical in front of the TV so we would get on it for 1 hour each while binge watching our favorite show(s).

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23 minutes ago, ShiaMan14 said:

we put the elliptical in front of the TV so we would get on it for 1 hour each while binge watching our favorite show(s).

I really like this idea.  

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4 hours ago, ShiaMan14 said:

we put the elliptical in

I had one but I sold it for $200, now I regret my decision :cry:

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On 8/24/2023 at 6:18 AM, Berber-Shia said:

السلام عليكم

So recently I canceled my gym because the burden was getting too heavy. As you probably all noticed, these last years, gym culture has become quite popular for men and women, so as a result gyms are relatively more filled than a couple of years ago. Moreover, as you probably noticed as well, women clothing has become more degenerate, especially sports clothing, to the point where keeping your gaze down is not sufficient anymore. On top of that, the music in some of these gyms is so loud and obnoxious, even wearing headphones doesn't change it.

So I thought of an idea: a gym where only men can sign up with no music. What do you guys think?

PS: Where I live they already have women-only gyms so that issue needn't be addressed.

Go in the mornings. I've noticed this as well, after work time, ~4pm till about 9-10pm, there are (comparatively) many women in ridiculous attire. If you go at like 6-8am there are very few people there and almost no women, the women who are there, are generally dressed ok. They don't have enough time to cake their face in layers of makeup, make their hair, and squeeze into their clothes that early. I'm still struggling with this as well, I go late at night and still see some women like that, trying to fix my sleep to go in the mornings instead inshallah.

Or, build a home gym. Get a squat rack, a bar, bench, weights, adjustable dumbbells, pullup bar and you are set. Can probably cost ~1-2k total, maybe less.

Unfortunately living in the west, you will have to deal with the degeneracy here.

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On 8/25/2023 at 2:47 PM, ShiaMan14 said:

so like a bowflex <insert equipment of choice> runs from $600 - $800 so it pays off in less than 1 year.

 

On 8/24/2023 at 12:35 PM, Abu Hadi said:

There are tons of workouts you can do at home with no equipment or just a few pieces of inexpensive equipment that will get you in shape, so long as you follow a routine and a program and again, there are tons of those online that you can research and find the one that is most effective.

I can't recommend highly enough how useful rebounders are.

Advantages

  • You can do all sorts of leg-focused exercises. Starting with low-intensity work outs, you can build up to sprints. And 'high knees' on a rebounder makes you feel like Superman. You can also work your arms by holding weights / and as you move your arms as you would in a running motion, they get a work out too.
    • What Are High Knees? “High knees” refers to an exercise or running drill that involves sprinting in place or in a forward direction while driving your knees as high up as possible towards your chest.

  • Best of all you can get these for around $50-$100.
  • Unlike treadmills or road running, you don't kill your knees in the process and I use mine barefoot, so you don't even need expensive trainers.
  • People go to a gym for one long workout (per day), which is not a good way to exercise. If you work from home, you can use one of these several times a day (for a few minutes each time).

Downside

  • The only downside is that they may not work well for people living in apartments above the ground floor.

Mine looks very similar to the one below, solid metal construction, only downside is that the legs don't fold. But I don't have a storage problem. There are rebounders that have folding legs.

Try it!

This is the sort of product with low financial risk. Try it out to see if it fits into your lifestyle, (because that's the most important thing).

If it does not resell it or give it away.

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The gym business model

I think it's worth knowing about this. I've made some text bold.

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Gyms have built their business model around us not showing up. Gyms have way more members than they can actually accommodate. Low-priced gyms are the most extreme example of this. Planet Fitness, which charges between $10 and $20 per month, has, on average, 6,500 members per gym. Most of its gyms can hold around 300 people. 

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/12/30/373996649/why-we-sign-up-for-gym-memberships-but-don-t-go-to-the-gym#:~:text=The reason gyms can charge,are getting an amazing deal.

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Try martial arts or boxing you wont find much women there at all and buy your own weights equipment and do weight workouts at home ? If you want cardio go for walks,jogs,runs. Otherwise as suggested above i don't think you can find Men's only gym lol we have plenty of women's only gyms here in AUS, which is great got to wear and workout in peace without creepy stares even though in my humble opinion men will still look and stare even if you're a Hijabi covered from head to toe from my own personal experience, so really it comes down to the man himself. 

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On 9/25/2023 at 8:00 AM, Haji 2003 said:

I wish there was one but I don't think it would work. I live in Dearborn and although the community has a large number of Muslims, and even Shia, most are marginally to non practicing. If that wasn't the case the situation would be alot different. For the marginal to non practicing Muslim guy, going to the gym and seeing girls bending over in short shorts is a feature, not a bug, to use IT terminology. If this type of gym were to happen, it would have to be done as a high priced niche market, and most of the guys who are religious / practicing aren't rich. There are a few who are but this market would not be large enough to actually support this kind of business. Work out at home, that's what I do. Lots of good suggestions so far for this. 

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2 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

it would have to be done as a high priced niche market, and most of the guys who are religious / practicing aren't rich

I used to be a gym member for many years, but I have stopped since I have much better alternatives.

There's a supermarket in the town next to mine which is much better value than my local stores. Round trip is about 3 miles. OK I carry shopping but ... there's a new word for that ...

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The farmer’s walk is a resistance-training exercise where a heavy object is lifted and carried for an extended period. It exercises almost every muscle group, improving cardio health, endurance, and strength

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/farmers-walk-benefits

So now I get exercise and each time I exercise I am saving $10 rather then spending it!

I've previously written about rebounders etc. Honestly I think gyms are completely unnecessary.

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$10 per month is actually very cheap. We pay $80 per month and there is no air conditioner lol. 

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If there a specific time that you go to a gym where you just expect men then that is a different scenario. There are certain gyms where majority are male attendants, even though the gym isn't officially 'men only'. 

I have alhumdulillah discovered a massive gym which also has an outdoor space. The time I go (before it closes at 9pm), I don't come across any women. The instructors are men as well thankfully. It takes some research but worth it if you can find one. 

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8 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

For the marginal to non practicing Muslim guy, going to the gym and seeing girls bending over in short shorts is a feature, not a bug, to use IT terminology

Brother I have heard this idea of yours before regarding such technology. But in this case, there is an assumption that it is just the issue of the gaze (which is a significant problem of course). It is also the environment itself.

Whether we can see or not, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) would not want us to be in a place where both men and women are together in this context. The area itself is stripped away from the blessings of God.

So simply being present there, wouldn't that have an impact on our spirituality? 

 

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On 1/25/2024 at 9:53 PM, Abu Hadi said:

I wish there was one but I don't think it would work. I live in Dearborn and although the community has a large number of Muslims, and even Shia, most are marginally to non practicing. If that wasn't the case the situation would be alot different.

 

On 1/26/2024 at 12:07 AM, Haji 2003 said:

since I have much better alternatives.

Salam another alternative as suggestion can be dedication of a portion of free time & free space of religious centers or mosques or Hussaeynias  for using as a gym although it will be face some opposition by some people who just see these places just only a place of worship also it needs some sort of redesigning & modification of management anyway in an ideal example such places can be a complex which offer everything to muslims from gym & shopping center & education center & etc with religious centers or mosques or Hussaeynias will be   centers which besides religious activities people can receive their other daily needs from these related places which have created besides religious centers or mosques or Hussaeynias inshaAllah . 

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20 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

 

Salam another alternative as suggestion can be dedication of a portion of free time & free space of religious centers or mosques or Hussaeynias  for using as a gym although it will be face some opposition by some people who just see these places just only a place of worship also it needs some sort of redesigning & modification of management anyway in an ideal example such places can be a complex which offer everything to muslims from gym & shopping center & education center & etc with religious centers or mosques or Hussaeynias will be   centers which besides religious activities people can receive their other daily needs from these related places which have created besides religious centers or mosques or Hussaeynias inshaAllah . 

Salam brother

How often do you go to the gym? When was the last time you went to the gym?  

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