Knowledge of Imams

[Muslim2010]

The following hadith are presented to describe the knowledge of Imams from the pure progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) that has been gifted to them by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) after the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).. The following hadith are taken from Al kafi and these have been graded authentic / reliable:

5 - أحمد بن إدريس، عن محمد بن عبد الجبار، عن محمد بن خالد، عن فضالة بن أيوب، عن عبد الله بن أبي يعفور قال: قال أبو عبد الله عليه السلام: يا ابن أبي يعفور إن الله واحد متوحد بالوحدانية، متفرد بأمره، فخلق خلقا فقدرهم لذلك الامر فنحن هم يا ابن أبي يعفور فنحن حجج الله في عباده، وخزانه على علمه، والقائمون بذلك.

 H 490, Ch. 11, h 5, Vol 1 English

Ahmad ibn Idris has narrated from from Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Jabbar from Muhammad ibn Khalid from Fudala ibn Ayyub from ‘Abdallh ibn ya‘fur who has said that Imam abu ‘Abdallh ((عليه السلام).) said him the following. "O ibn abu ya‘fur, Allah is One and is the only One in His Oneness. He alone issues His command. He created a creature and appointed and measured them for that command (Amr, task). We are, O ibn abu ya‘fur are that creature. We are the authority of Allah over His creatures, the treasurers of His knowledge and the guardians of it."

Majlisi Sahih

 

(باب) * (ان الأئمة ورثوا علم النبي وجميع الأنبياء والأوصياء) * * (الذين من قبلهم) * 1 - علي بن إبراهيم، عن أبيه، عن عبد العزيز بن المهتدي، عن عبد الله بن جندب أنه كتب إليه الرضا عليه السلام: أما بعد، فان محمدا صلى الله عليه وآله كان أمين الله في خلقه فلما قبض صلى الله عليه وآله كنا أهل البيت ورثته، فنحن أمناء الله في أرضه ، عندنا علم البلايا والمنايا، وأنساب العرب ، ومولد الاسلام، وإنا لنعرف الرجل إذا رأيناه بحقيقة الايمان، وحقيقة النفاق، وإن شيعتنا لمكتوبون بأسمائهم وأسماء آبائهم، أخذ الله علينا وعليهم الميثاق، يردون موردنا ويدخلون مدخلنا، ليس على ملة الاسلام غيرناوغيرهم، نحن النجباء النجاة، ونحن أفراط الأنبياء ونحن أبناء الأوصياء، ونحن المخصوصون في كتاب الله عز وجل، ونحن أولى الناس بكتاب الله، ونحن أولى الناس برسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله، ونحن الذين شرع الله لنا دينه فقال في كتابه: " شرع لكم (يا آل محمد) من الدين ما وصى به نوحا (قد وصانا بما وصى به نوحا) والذي أوحينا إليك (يا محمد) وما وصينا به إبراهيم وموسى وعيسى (فقد علمنا وبلغنا علم ما علمنا واستودعنا علمهم نحن ورثة اولي العزم من الرسل) أن أقيموا الدين (يا آل محمد) ولا تتفرقوا فيه (وكونوا على جماعة) كبر على المشركين (من أشرك بولاية علي) ما تدعوهم إليه (من ولاية علي) إن الله (يا محمد) يهدي إليه من ينيب " من يجيبك إلى ولاية علي عليه السلام.

H 598, Ch. 33, h 1, (Vol 1 English)

Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from ‘Abd al-‘Aziz ibn al-Muhtadi from ‘Adallah ibn Jundab to who Imam al-Rida ((عليه السلام).) wrote the following. "Thereafter, (thanking Allah) Muhammad (s.a.) was the trustee of Allah for His creatures. When he was taken away from this world we, Ahl al-Bayt inherited him, thus, we are the trustees of Allah over His earth. With us is the knowledge of the sufferings, the death, the genealogy of the Arabs and the birth of Islam. We know the man when we see him in the truth of faith or hypocrisy. Our followers (Shi‘a) are listed (with us) by their names and the names of their fathers. Allah has established a covenant with them and with us. They land wherever we would do so and enter wherever we would enter. There is no besides us and our followers as living the Islamic culture. We are the noble saviors and the descendants of the prophets and of the children of the successors of the prophets. We the ones to whom the book of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, has come exclusively. We, of all people, have the first priority (closeness) to the book of Allah.

We, of all people, have the first priority (closeness) to the Messenger of Allah. For us He formed His religion. "He has established for you (family of Muhammad) a form of religion which is of the commands to Noah {we are commanded with whatever Noah was commanded}. It is of the mattes that We have revealed to you (Muhammad) and of the commands to Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus to follow.{We have taught and preached the knowledge that was taught to us. We were given the knowledge of these prophets. We are the heirs of the commissioned Messengers}. (He has explained it) so that you (family of Muhammad) would be steadfast and united (all in a united group) in your religion. What you call the polytheists {polytheists in the acknowledgement of the Divine authority of Imam Ali ((عليه السلام).} to{the acknowledgement of the Divine authority of Imam Ali ((عليه السلام).}is extremely grave for them. God {O Muhammad} attracts to (the religion) whomever He wants and guides to it whoever turns to Him in repentance." (42:13)

Majlisi صحيح مجلسي (3/11)

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[Muslim2010]

2 - محمد بن يحيى، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن علي بن الحكم، عن عبدالرحمن بن كثير، عن أبي جعفر عليه السلام قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله إن أول وصي كان على وجه الارض هبة الله بن آدم وما من نبى مضى إلا وله وصي وكان جميع الانبياء مائة ألف نبي وعشرين ألف نبي، منهم خمسة اولو العزم: نوح وإبراهيم وموسى وعيسى ومحمد عليهم السلام وإن علي بن أبي طالب كان هبة الله لمحمد، وورث علم الاوصياء، وعلم من كان قبله، أما إن محمدا ورث علم من كان قبله من الانبياء والمرسلين.

 على قائمة العرش مكتوب: " حمزة أسد الله وأسد رسوله وسيد الشهداء، وفي ذؤابة العرش علي أمير المؤمنين " فهذه حجتنا على من أنكر حقنا، وجحد ميراثنا، وما منعنا من الكلام وأمامنا اليقين، فأي حجة تكون أبلغ من هذا.

 H 599, Ch. 33, h 2

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from Ali ibn al-Hakam

from ‘Abd al-Rahman ibn Kathir from abu Ja‘far ((عليه السلام).) who has said the following. "The Messenger of Allah has said, ‘The first successor and executor of the will on earth was Hibbatullah, the son of Adam. No prophet has ever left this world without first leaving behind one who would execute his will. The prophets were one hundred twenty thousand persons. Five of them were commissioned Messengers, like Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (s.a.) Ali ibn abu Talib ((عليه السلام).) was the Hibbatullah for Muhammad (s.a.).He inherited the knowledge of the executors of the wills of the prophets and the knowledge of those who were before him. (Is not it true) that Muhammad (s.a.) inherited the knowledge of the prophets and the Messengers who lived before him? It is written on the columns of the throne, "Hamza is the loin of Allah and the loin of His Messenger. He (Hamza) is the master of the martyrs. On top of the throne is Amir al-Mu’minin Ali ((عليه السلام).). This evidence against those who deny our rights and refuse to yield to us our right of inheritance. We are not forbidden to speak. Before us is all certainty. What supporting evidence could be more clear than this."

Majlisi حسن مجلسي 

 

3 - محمد بن يحيى، عن سلمة بن الخطاب، عن عبدالله بن محمد، عن عبدالله بن القاسم، عن زرعة بن محمد، عن المفضل بن عمر قال: قال أبوعبدالله عليه السلام: إن سليمان ورث

داود، وإن محمدا ورث سليمان، وإنا ورثنا محمدا، وإن عندنا علم التوراة والانجيل والزبور، وتبيان ما في الالواح قال: قلت: إن هذا لهو العلم؟ قال: ليس هذا هو العلم، إن العلم الذي يحدث يوما بعد يوم وساعة بعد ساعة

 H 600, Ch. 33, h 3

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Salama ibn al-Khattab from ‘Adallah ibn Muhammad from ‘Adallah ibn al-Qasim from Zur‘a ibn Muhammad from al-Mufaddal ibn ‘Umar from who has said the following. "Solomon inherited David. Muhammad (s.a.) inherited Solomon and we inherited Muhammad (s.a.). We have the knowledge of Torah and the Gospel (Injil), the Psalms, (al-Zabur) and the explanation of what the tablets contained." I (the narrator) said, "This certainly is the knowledge." The Imams ((عليه السلام).) said, "This is not knowledge. Knowledge is what happens day after day and hour after hour."

 Majlisi  صحيح مجلسي  

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Edited June 5 by Muslim2010

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8 hours ago, Muslim2010 said:

 H 600, Ch. 33, h 3

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Salama ibn al-Khattab from ‘Adallah ibn Muhammad from ‘Adallah ibn al-Qasim from Zur‘a ibn Muhammad from al-Mufaddal ibn ‘Umar from who has said the following. "Solomon inherited David. Muhammad (s.a.) inherited Solomon and we inherited Muhammad (s.a.). We have the knowledge of Torah and the Gospel (Injil), the Psalms, (al-Zabur) and the explanation of what the tablets contained." I (the narrator) said, "This certainly is the knowledge." The Imams ((عليه السلام).) said, "This is not knowledge. Knowledge is what happens day after day and hour after hour."

Salam,

Thank you Brother for sharing.   We are not left alone to live on this earth without access to knowledge from our Wali.  Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), Rasulullah ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) and Imams (عليه السلام) are with us. Alhamdulillah.

Thanks for information.  May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you.

Wallahualam

[Ethics]

subhanAllah thanks for sharing brother

[Muslim2010]

On 6/4/2023 at 11:24 PM, Muslim2010 said:

The following hadith are presented to describe the knowledge of Imams from the pure progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) that has been gifted to them by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) after the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).. The following hadith are taken from Al kafi and these have been graded authentic / reliable:

2 - علي بن إبراهيم، عن أبيه، عن ابن أبي عمير، عن محمد بن السكين، عن نوح بن دراج، عن عبدالله بن أبي يعفور، قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول: إنما مثل السلاح فينا مثل التابوت في بني إسرائيل، حيثما دار التابوت دار الملك، فأينما دار السلاح فينا دار العلم.

. H 632, Ch. 39, h 2

Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from ibn abu ‘Umayr from Muhammad ibn al- Sukayn from Nuh ibn Darraj from ‘Abdallah ibn abu Ya‘fur who has said that he heard abu ‘Abdallah ((عليه السلام).) say the following. "The case of the Armaments with us is like the case of the Ark with the Israelites. Wherever the Ark would go kingdom would also follow. Wherever the Armaments go among us knowledge (leadership with Divine authority) also follows it."

Majlisi     موثق   (3/53)

4 - عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن أبي نصر، عن أبي الحسن الرضا عليه السلام قال: قال أبوجعفر عليه السلام: إنما مثل السلاح فينا كمثل التابوت في بني إسرائيل أينما دار التابوت دار الملك، وأينما دار السلاح فينا دار العلم.

H 634, Ch. 39, h 4

A number of our people has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn abu Nasr from abu al-Hassan al-Rida ((عليه السلام).) who has said the following. "Abu Ja‘far ((عليه السلام).) would say, ‘The case of the Armaments with us is as the Ark with the Israelites. Wherever the Ark would go kingdom would also follow. Wherever the Armaments among us would go knowledge would also follow."

Majlisi     صحيح  (3/54)

1 - عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن عبدالله بن الحجال، عن أحمد بن

عمر الحلبي، عن أبي بصير قال: دخلت على أبي عبدالله عليه السلام فقلت له: جعلت فداك إني أسألك عن مسألة، ههنا أحد يسمع كلامي قال: فرفع أبوعبد عليه السلام سترا بينه وبين بيت آخر فأطلع فيه ثم قال: يا أبا محمد سل عما بدا لك، قال: قلت: جعلت فداك إن شيعتك يتحدثون أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله علم عليا عليه السلام بابا يفتح له منه ألف باب؟ قال: فقال: يا أبا محمد علم رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله عليا عليه السلام ألف باب يفتح من كل باب ألف باب قال: قلت: هذا والله العلم قال: فنكت ساعة في الارض ثم قال: إنه لعلم وما هو بذاك. قال: ثم قال: يا أبا محمد وإن عندنا الجامعة وما يدريهم ما الجامعة؟ قال: قلت: جعلت فداك وما الجامعة؟ قال: صحيفة طولها سبعون ذراعا بذراع رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وإملائه من فلق فيه وخط علي بيمينه، فيها كل حلال وحرام وكل شئ يحتاج الناس إليه حتى الارش في الخدش وضرب بيده إلي فقال: تأذن لي يا أبا محمد؟ قال: قلت: جعلت فداك إنما أنا لك فاصنع ما شئت، قال: فغمزني بيده وقال: حتى أرش هذا - كأنه مغضب - قال: قلت: هذا والله العلم قال إنه لعلم وليس بذاك. ثم سكت ساعة، ثم قال: وإن عندنا الجفر وما يدريهم ما الجفر؟ قال قلت: وما الجفر؟ قال: وعاء من أدم فيه علم النبيين والوصيين، وعلم العلماء الذين مضوا من بني إسرائيل، قال قلت: إن هذا هو العلم، قال: إنه لعلم وليس بذاك.

ثم سكت ساعة ثم قال: وإن عندنا لمصحف فاطمة عليها السلام وما يدريهم ما مصحف فاطمة عليها السلام؟ قال: قلت: وما مصحف فاطمة عليها السلام؟ قال: مصحف فيه مثل قرآنكم هذا ثلاث مرات، والله ما فيه من قرآنكم حرف واحد، قال: قلت: هذا والله العلم قال: إنه لعلم وما هو بذاك.

ثم سكت ساعة ثم قال: إن عندنا علم ما كان وعلم ما هو كائن إلى أن تقوم الساعة قال: قلت: جعلت فداك هذا والله هو العلم، قال: إنه لعلم وليس بذاك.

قلت: جعلت فداك فأي شئ العلم؟ قال: ما يحدث بالليل والنهار، الامر من بعد الامر، والشئ بعد الشئ، إلى يوم القيامة.

H 635, Ch. 40, h 1

A number of our people has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ‘Abdallah ibn al-Hajjal from Ahmad ibn ‘Umar al-Halabi from abu Basir who has said the following. "I went to abu ‘Abdallah ((عليه السلام).) and said, "May Allah take my soul in service for your cause, I like to ask you a question. Is there anyone else in this house who may hear my words?" The Imams ((عليه السلام).) then folded the curtain between his room and the other room next to it and looked into it. Then the Imams ((عليه السلام).) said, "O abu Muhammad, ask whatever you wish." I said, "May Allah take my soul in service for your cause, your followers say that the Messenger of Allah taught Ali ((عليه السلام).) a thousand chapter of knowledge and from each chapter there opens a thousand chapter. I then said, ‘This, I swear by Allah, is knowledge.’" He would mark the ground with his staff (a sign of thinking in normal people) for a while and said, "That is knowledge but it is not that." The narrators has said that The Imam ((عليه السلام).) then said, "O abu Muhammad, with us there is al-Jami‘a. What do they know what al-Jami‘ is?" I then asked, "May Allah take my soul in service for your cause, what is al-Jami‘a? The Imam ((عليه السلام).) said, it is a parchment seventy yards by the yards of the Messenger of Allah long that contains his dictations that is in graved in to with the right hand writing of Ali ((عليه السلام).). It contains all the lawful and unlawful and all matters that people need, even the law to of compensation for A number of our people has narrated from scratch caused to a person. He then stretched his hand to me and asked, ‘May I, O abu Muhammad?’ I then replied, "May Allah take my soul in service for your cause, I am all at your disposal." He pinched me with his hand and said, "Even there is the law of compensation for this." He seemed angry. The narrator has said, "I then said, "This, I swear by Allah is knowledge." The Imams ((عليه السلام).) said, "It certainly is knowledge but not that one."

The Imams ((عليه السلام).) remained silent for a while and then said, "With us there is al-Jafr (the parchment). What do they know what al-Jafr is? I then asked, "What is al-Jafr (the parchment or a container) ?" The Imams ((عليه السلام).) said, "It is a container made of skin that contains the knowledge of the prophets and the executors of their wills and the knowledge of the scholars in the past from the Israelites." The narrator has said that he then said, "This certainly, is the knowledge." The Imam ((عليه السلام).) said, "It certainly is knowledge but not that knowledge."

The Imams ((عليه السلام).) remained silent for a while and then said, "With us there is the book (Mushaf) of Fatima, ((عليه السلام).). What do they know what Mushaf of Fatima is? The Imam ((عليه السلام).) said, "Mushaf of Fatima is three times bigger than your Quran. There is not even a single letter therein from your Quran." The narrator has said, "I then said, "This, I swear by Allah, is the knowledge." The Imam ((عليه السلام).) said, "This certainly is knowledge, but it is not that."

The Imam ((عليه السلام).) remained silent for a while and then said, "With us there is the knowledge of whatever has been and the knowledge of whatever will come into being to the Day of Judgment." The narrator has said that he then said, "May Allah take my soul in service for your cause, this, I swear by Allah is, certainly, knowledge." The Imam ((عليه السلام).) said, "It certainly is knowledge but not that." The narrator has said that he then asked, "May Allah take my soul in service for your cause, What then is knowledge?" The Imam ((عليه السلام).) said, "Whatever takes place during the night and during the day, one matter after the other matter and one thing after the other thing to the Day of Judgment."

Majlisi     صحيح   (3/54)

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[Muslim2010]

23 hours ago, Muslim2010 said:

2 - علي بن إبراهيم، عن أبيه، عن ابن أبي عمير، عن محمد بن السكين، عن نوح بن دراج، عن عبدالله بن أبي يعفور، قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول: إنما مثل السلاح فينا مثل التابوت في بني إسرائيل، حيثما دار التابوت دار الملك، فأينما دار السلاح فينا دار العلم.

. H 632, Ch. 39, h 2

Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from ibn abu ‘Umayr from Muhammad ibn al- Sukayn from Nuh ibn Darraj from ‘Abdallah ibn abu Ya‘fur who has said that he heard abu ‘Abdallah ((عليه السلام).) say the following. "The case of the Armaments with us is like the case of the Ark with the Israelites. Wherever the Ark would go kingdom would also follow. Wherever the Armaments go among us knowledge (leadership with Divine authority) also follows it."

Majlisi     موثق   (3/53)

4 - أبوعلي الاشعري، عن محمد بن عبدالجبار، عن محمد بن إسماعيل، عن علي ابن النعمان، عن سويد القلا، عن أبي أيوب، عن أبي بصير، عن ابي جعفر عليه السلام قال: إن لله عزوجل علمين: علم لا يعلمه إلا هو وعلم علمه ملائكته ورسله، فما علمه ملائكته ورسله عليهم السلام فنحن نعلمه.

.  H 662, Ch. 44, h 4

Abu Ali al-Ash‘ari has narrated from Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Jabber from Muhammad ibn Isma‘il from Ali ibn al-Nu‘man from Suwayd al-Qalla from abu Ayyub from abu Basir from abu Ja‘far ((عليه السلام).) who has said the following. "Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, has two kinds of knowledge. One kind of knowledge is that which no one knows except He. The other kind is that which He has taught to the His angels and His messengers. Whatever His angels and Messengers have learned we know it."

Majlisi   صحیح

 

2 - علي، عن أبيه، عن ابن أبي عمير، عن ابن اذينة، عن زرارة، عن أبي جعفر عليه السلام قال: نزل جبرئيل عليه السلام على رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله برمانتين من الجنة فأعطاه إياهما فأكل واحدة وكسر الاخرى بنصفين فأعطى عليا عليه السلام نصفها فأكلها، فقال يا علي أما الرمانة الاولى التي أكلتها فالنبوة ليس لك فيها شئ، وأما الاخرى فهو العلم فأنت شريكي فيه.

H 685, Ch. 49, h 2

Ali has narrated from his father from ibn abu ‘Umayr from ibn ‘Udhaynah from Zurarah from abu Ja‘far ((عليه السلام).) who has said the following.

"Once Jibril brought from Paradise two pieces of pomegranate to the Messenger of Allah and brought him two pieces of pomegranates. The Messenger of Allah ate one of them and broke the other one into two pieces. He then ate one half and gave the other half to Ali ((عليه السلام).) who also ate it ((عليه السلام).). The Messenger of Allah said, "The first one that I ate was prophet-hood. There is no share in it for you. The other one is knowledge in which you are my partner."

Majlisi   حسن

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Edited June 8 by Muslim2010

[Muslim2010]

On 6/4/2023 at 11:24 PM, Muslim2010 said:

The following hadith are presented to describe the knowledge of Imams from the pure progeny of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) that has been gifted to them by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) after the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).. The following hadith are taken from Al kafi and these have been graded authentic / reliable:

5 - أحمد بن إدريس، عن محمد بن عبد الجبار، عن محمد بن خالد، عن فضالة بن أيوب، عن عبد الله بن أبي يعفور قال: قال أبو عبد الله عليه السلام: يا ابن أبي يعفور إن الله واحد متوحد بالوحدانية، متفرد بأمره، فخلق خلقا فقدرهم لذلك الامر فنحن هم يا ابن أبي يعفور فنحن حجج الله في عباده، وخزانه على علمه، والقائمون بذلك.

 H 490, Ch. 11, h 5, Vol 1 English

Ahmad ibn Idris has narrated from from Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Jabbar from Muhammad ibn Khalid from Fudala ibn Ayyub from ‘Abdallh ibn ya‘fur who has said that Imam abu ‘Abdallh ((عليه السلام).) said him the following. "O ibn abu ya‘fur, Allah is One and is the only One in His Oneness. He alone issues His command. He created a creature and appointed and measured them for that command (Amr, task). We are, O ibn abu ya‘fur are that creature. We are the authority of Allah over His creatures, the treasurers of His knowledge and the guardians of it."

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3 - محمد بن يحيى، عن محمد بن الحسن، عن محمد بن عبدالحميد، عن منصور بن يونس، عن ابن اذينة، عن محمد بن مسلم قال: سمعت أبا جعفر عليه السلام يقول: نزل جبرئيل على محمد صلى الله عليه وآله برمانتين من الجنة، فلقيه علي عليه السلام فقال: ما هاتان الرمانتان اللتان في يدك؟ فقال: أما هذه فالنبوة، ليس لك فيها نصيب، وأما هذه فالعلم، ثم فلقها رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله بنصفين فأعطاه نصفها وأخذ رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله نصفها ثم قال: أنت شريكي فيه وأنا شريكك فيه، قال: فلم يعلم والله رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله حرفا مما علمه الله عزوجل إلا وقد علمه عليا ثم انتهى العلم إلينا، ثم وضع يده على صدره.

77.  H 686, Ch. 49, h 3

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Muhammad ibn al-Hassan from Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Hamid from Mansur ibn Yunus from ibn ’Udhaynah from Muhammad ibn Muslim who has said that he heard abu Ja‘far ((عليه السلام).) say the following. "Once Jibril descended to Muhammad (s.a) (and) brought two pieces of pomegranate from Paradise. Ali ((عليه السلام).) meet him and asked, "What (kind of ) pomegranate are those in your hands?" He replied, "As to this one, it is the Prophet-hood in which there is no share for you. As to this one, it is knowledge. Then the Messenger of Allah broke it into two halves. He then gave one half and the Messenger of Allah kept the other half and then said, "You are my partner in it and I am your partner in it." The Imam ((عليه السلام).) then said, "I swear by Allah that there was nothing of all the knowledge that was taught to the Messenger of Allah but that he taught them to Ali ((عليه السلام).) and thereafter knowledge was transferred to us. He then placed his hand over his chest."

Majlisi   موثق

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2 - محمد بن يحيى، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن علي بن الحكم، عن عبدالرحمن بن كثير، عن أبي جعفر عليه السلام قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله إن أول وصي كان على وجه الارض هبة الله بن آدم وما من نبى مضى إلا وله وصي وكان جميع الانبياء مائة ألف نبي وعشرين ألف نبي، منهم خمسة اولو العزم: نوح وإبراهيم وموسى وعيسى ومحمد عليهم السلام وإن علي بن أبي طالب كان هبة الله لمحمد، وورث علم الاوصياء، وعلم من كان قبله، أما إن محمدا ورث علم من كان قبله من الانبياء والمرسلين.

 على قائمة العرش مكتوب: " حمزة أسد الله وأسد رسوله وسيد الشهداء، وفي ذؤابة العرش علي أمير المؤمنين " فهذه حجتنا على من أنكر حقنا، وجحد ميراثنا، وما منعنا من الكلام وأمامنا اليقين، فأي حجة تكون أبلغ من هذا.

 H 599, Ch. 33, h 2

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from Ali ibn al-Hakam

from ‘Abd al-Rahman ibn Kathir from abu Ja‘far ((عليه السلام).) who has said the following. "The Messenger of Allah has said, ‘The first successor and executor of the will on earth was Hibbatullah, the son of Adam. No prophet has ever left this world without first leaving behind one who would execute his will. The prophets were one hundred twenty thousand persons. Five of them were commissioned Messengers, like Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (s.a.) Ali ibn abu Talib ((عليه السلام).) was the Hibbatullah for Muhammad (s.a.).He inherited the knowledge of the executors of the wills of the prophets and the knowledge of those who were before him. (Is not it true) that Muhammad (s.a.) inherited the knowledge of the prophets and the Messengers who lived before him? It is written on the columns of the throne, "Hamza is the loin of Allah and the loin of His Messenger. He (Hamza) is the master of the martyrs. On top of the throne is Amir al-Mu’minin Ali ((عليه السلام).). This evidence against those who deny our rights and refuse to yield to us our right of inheritance. We are not forbidden to speak. Before us is all certainty. What supporting evidence could be more clear than this."

Majlisi حسن مجلسي 

3 - محمد بن يحيى، عن سلمة بن الخطاب، عن عبدالله بن محمد، عن عبدالله بن القاسم، عن زرعة بن محمد، عن المفضل بن عمر قال: قال أبوعبدالله عليه السلام: إن سليمان ورث

داود، وإن محمدا ورث سليمان، وإنا ورثنا محمدا، وإن عندنا علم التوراة والانجيل والزبور، وتبيان ما في الالواح قال: قلت: إن هذا لهو العلم؟ قال: ليس هذا هو العلم، إن العلم الذي يحدث يوما بعد يوم وساعة بعد ساعة

 H 600, Ch. 33, h 3

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Salama ibn al-Khattab from ‘Adallah ibn Muhammad from ‘Adallah ibn al-Qasim from Zur‘a ibn Muhammad from al-Mufaddal ibn ‘Umar from who has said the following. "Solomon inherited David. Muhammad (s.a.) inherited Solomon and we inherited Muhammad (s.a.). We have the knowledge of Torah and the Gospel (Injil), the Psalms, (al-Zabur) and the explanation of what the tablets contained." I (the narrator) said, "This certainly is the knowledge." The Imams ((عليه السلام).) said, "This is not knowledge. Knowledge is what happens day after day and hour after hour."

 Majlisi  صحيح مجلسي  

2 - علي، عن أبيه، عن ابن أبي عمير، عن ابن اذينة، عن زرارة، عن أبي جعفر عليه السلام قال: نزل جبرئيل عليه السلام على رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله برمانتين من الجنة فأعطاه إياهما فأكل واحدة وكسر الاخرى بنصفين فأعطى عليا عليه السلام نصفها فأكلها، فقال يا علي أما الرمانة الاولى التي أكلتها فالنبوة ليس لك فيها شئ، وأما الاخرى فهو العلم فأنت شريكي فيه.

H 685, Ch. 49, h 2

Ali has narrated from his father from ibn abu ‘Umayr from ibn ‘Udhaynah from Zurarah from abu Ja‘far ((عليه السلام).) who has said the following.

"Once Jibril brought from Paradise two pieces of pomegranate to the Messenger of Allah and brought him two pieces of pomegranates. The Messenger of Allah ate one of them and broke the other one into two pieces. He then ate one half and gave the other half to Ali ((عليه السلام).) who also ate it ((عليه السلام).). The Messenger of Allah said, "The first one that I ate was prophet-hood. There is no share in it for you. The other one is knowledge in which you are my partner."

Majlisi   حسن

Concluding Words:

The above autehntic and reliable hadith provide the answer to those who spread misconpcetions about the knowledge of the puriied Imams (12 Imams) from the family of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) like:

"The blessed Aimmah at times, did not even know when their next meal would come from. It is not necessary for the Imams to have knowledge of all things, sciences etc. The Imams didn't know about quantumn physics, nor is there evidence they knew about marine biology, etc. It is possible we know far more science they did."

Such childish statements we see many time from some accounts at SC but these are baseless without any authenticty.  The hadith that are authentic posted in this thread provide the evidence for the knolwegde of Imams being the inheritor of the knolwge of the prophets (عليه السلام)  and the knolwgede coming from our prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).

wasalam

Edited June 24 by Muslim2010

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On 6/24/2023 at 1:03 PM, Muslim2010 said:

2 - محمد بن يحيى، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن علي بن الحكم، عن عبدالرحمن بن كثير، عن أبي جعفر عليه السلام قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله إن أول وصي كان على وجه الارض هبة الله بن آدم وما من نبى مضى إلا وله وصي وكان جميع الانبياء مائة ألف نبي وعشرين ألف نبي، منهم خمسة اولو العزم: نوح وإبراهيم وموسى وعيسى ومحمد عليهم السلام وإن علي بن أبي طالب كان هبة الله لمحمد، وورث علم الاوصياء، وعلم من كان قبله، أما إن محمدا ورث علم من كان قبله من الانبياء والمرسلين.

 على قائمة العرش مكتوب: " حمزة أسد الله وأسد رسوله وسيد الشهداء، وفي ذؤابة العرش علي أمير المؤمنين " فهذه حجتنا على من أنكر حقنا، وجحد ميراثنا، وما منعنا من الكلام وأمامنا اليقين، فأي حجة تكون أبلغ من هذا.

 H 599, Ch. 33, h 2

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from Ali ibn al-Hakam

from ‘Abd al-Rahman ibn Kathir from abu Ja‘far ((عليه السلام).) who has said the following. "The Messenger of Allah has said, ‘The first successor and executor of the will on earth was Hibbatullah, the son of Adam. No prophet has ever left this world without first leaving behind one who would execute his will. The prophets were one hundred twenty thousand persons. Five of them were commissioned Messengers, like Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (s.a.) Ali ibn abu Talib ((عليه السلام).) was the Hibbatullah for Muhammad (s.a.).He inherited the knowledge of the executors of the wills of the prophets and the knowledge of those who were before him. (Is not it true) that Muhammad (s.a.) inherited the knowledge of the prophets and the Messengers who lived before him? It is written on the columns of the throne, "Hamza is the loin of Allah and the loin of His Messenger. He (Hamza) is the master of the martyrs. On top of the throne is Amir al-Mu’minin Ali ((عليه السلام).). This evidence against those who deny our rights and refuse to yield to us our right of inheritance. We are not forbidden to speak. Before us is all certainty. What supporting evidence could be more clear than this."

Majlisi حسن مجلسي 

3 - محمد بن يحيى، عن سلمة بن الخطاب، عن عبدالله بن محمد، عن عبدالله بن القاسم، عن زرعة بن محمد، عن المفضل بن عمر قال: قال أبوعبدالله عليه السلام: إن سليمان ورث

داود، وإن محمدا ورث سليمان، وإنا ورثنا محمدا، وإن عندنا علم التوراة والانجيل والزبور، وتبيان ما في الالواح قال: قلت: إن هذا لهو العلم؟ قال: ليس هذا هو العلم، إن العلم الذي يحدث يوما بعد يوم وساعة بعد ساعة

 H 600, Ch. 33, h 3

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Salama ibn al-Khattab from ‘Adallah ibn Muhammad from ‘Adallah ibn al-Qasim from Zur‘a ibn Muhammad from al-Mufaddal ibn ‘Umar from who has said the following. "Solomon inherited David. Muhammad (s.a.) inherited Solomon and we inherited Muhammad (s.a.). We have the knowledge of Torah and the Gospel (Injil), the Psalms, (al-Zabur) and the explanation of what the tablets contained." I (the narrator) said, "This certainly is the knowledge." The Imams ((عليه السلام).) said, "This is not knowledge. Knowledge is what happens day after day and hour after hour."

 Majlisi  صحيح مجلسي  

2 - علي، عن أبيه، عن ابن أبي عمير، عن ابن اذينة، عن زرارة، عن أبي جعفر عليه السلام قال: نزل جبرئيل عليه السلام على رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله برمانتين من الجنة فأعطاه إياهما فأكل واحدة وكسر الاخرى بنصفين فأعطى عليا عليه السلام نصفها فأكلها، فقال يا علي أما الرمانة الاولى التي أكلتها فالنبوة ليس لك فيها شئ، وأما الاخرى فهو العلم فأنت شريكي فيه.

H 685, Ch. 49, h 2

Ali has narrated from his father from ibn abu ‘Umayr from ibn ‘Udhaynah from Zurarah from abu Ja‘far ((عليه السلام).) who has said the following.

"Once Jibril brought from Paradise two pieces of pomegranate to the Messenger of Allah and brought him two pieces of pomegranates. The Messenger of Allah ate one of them and broke the other one into two pieces. He then ate one half and gave the other half to Ali ((عليه السلام).) who also ate it ((عليه السلام).). The Messenger of Allah said, "The first one that I ate was prophet-hood. There is no share in it for you. The other one is knowledge in which you are my partner."

Majlisi   حسن

Concluding Words:

The above autehntic and reliable hadith provide the answer to those who spread misconpcetions about the knowledge of the puriied Imams (12 Imams) from the family of the prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) like:

"The blessed Aimmah at times, did not even know when their next meal would come from. It is not necessary for the Imams to have knowledge of all things, sciences etc. The Imams didn't know about quantumn physics, nor is there evidence they knew about marine biology, etc. It is possible we know far more science they did."

Such childish statements we see many time from some accounts at SC but these are baseless without any authenticty.  The hadith that are authentic posted in this thread provide the evidence for the knolwegde of Imams being the inheritor of the knolwge of the prophets (عليه السلام)  and the knolwgede coming from our prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).

wasalam

Brothers would you like to comment on the conclusion of this thread?

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wasalam

Edited June 26 by Muslim2010

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44 minutes ago, Muslim2010 said:

Brothers would you like to comment on the conclusion of this thread?

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wasalam

Salam Brother!

I would like to add few more ahadith to this thread:

علي بن إبراهيم القمّي في تفسيره بإسناده: عن أبي جعفر(عليه السلام)، قال: (إنّ رسول الله(صلّى الله عليه وآله وسلّم) أفضل الراسخين في العلم، قد علم جميع ما أنزل الله عليه من التنزيل والتأويل، وما كان الله لينزل عليه شيئاً لم يعلمه تأويله، وأوصياؤه من بعده يعلمونه كلّه)

(Indeed, the Messenger of God (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is the best of those who are well-established in knowledge. He knew all that God revealed to him in terms of revelation and interpretation, and God would not reveal anything to him that he did not know its interpretation, and his successors after him know it all.)

تفسير القمّي 1: 96 سورة آل عمران، : بصائر الدرجات، للصفّار: 223 ج13 باب (10) في الأئمّة أنّهم الراسخون في العلم، الكافي 1: 213 كتاب الحجّة، باب أنّ الأئمّة قد أوتوا العلم

وعن الفضيل بن يسار، عن أبي جعفر(عليه السلام)، قال: (( وَمَا يَعلَمُ تَأوِيلَهُ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ وَالرَّاسِخُونَ فِي العِلمِ )) نحن نعلمه

He (عليه السلام) said: ((And no one knows its interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge)) We know it..

تفسير العياشي 1: 164 سورة آل عمران ح7، بحار الأنوار 89: 382 باب (8) إنّ للقرآن ظهراً وبطناً.

وعن أبي بصير، عن أبي عبد الله(عليه السلام)، قال: (نحن الراسخون في العلم، فنحن نعلم تأويله)

He (عليه السلام) said: We are well-grounded in knowledge, and we know its interpretation.

After mentioning these ahadith, I am quoting few verses of Quran:

وَعِندَهُ مَفَاتِحُ الْغَيْبِ لاَ يَعْلَمُهَا إِلاَّ هُوَ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا فِي الْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ وَمَا تَسْقُطُ مِن وَرَقَةٍ إِلاَّ يَعْلَمُهَا وَلاَ حَبَّةٍ فِي ظُلُمَاتِ الأَرْضِ وَلاَ رَطْبٍ وَلاَ يَابِسٍ إِلاَّ فِي كِتَابٍ مُّبِينٍ

6:59)

It is obvious that a hujjah of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) upon His creation would also be a hujjah for His infinite knowledge. Whatever He (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has placed "in" kitabin mubeen is placed there by Him. 

وَلَوْ أَنَّ قُرْآنًا سُيِّرَتْ بِهِ الْجِبَالُ أَوْ قُطِّعَتْ بِهِ الْأَرْضُ أَوْ كُلِّمَ بِهِ الْمَوْتَىٰ ۗ بَلْ لِلَّهِ الْأَمْرُ جَمِيعًا ۗ 

13:31)

According to a hadith of al-Kafi, Imam (عليه السلام) has explained this verse as:

ولو أن قرآنا سيرت به الجبال أو قطعت به الأرض أو كلم به الموتى (3) " وقد ورثنا نحن هذا القرآن الذي فيه ما تسير به الجبال وتقطع به البلدان، وتحيى به الموتى، ونحن نعرف الماء تحت الهواء، وإن في كتاب الله لآيات ما يراد بها أمر إلا أن يأذن الله به مع ما قد يأذن الله مما كتبه الماضون، جعله الله لنا في أم الكتاب، إن الله يقول: " وما من غائبة في السماء والأرض إلا في كتاب مبين (4) " ثم قال: " ثم أورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا (5) " فنحن الذين اصطفانا الله عز وجل وأورثنا هذا الذي فيه تبيان كل شئ.

http://shiaonlinelibrary.com/الكتب/1122_الكافي-الشيخ-الكليني-ج-١/الصفحة_274#:~:text=(٣) الرعد%3A ٣٠ (,يسهله مما في الكتب السالفة.

 

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Abu Ali al-Ash‘ari has narrated from Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Jabber from Muhammad ibn Isma‘il from Ali ibn al-Nu‘man from Suwayd al-Qalla from abu Ayyub from abu Basir from abu Ja‘far ((عليه السلام).) who has said the following. "Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, has two kinds of knowledge. One kind of knowledge is that which no one knows except He. The other kind is that which He has taught to the His angels and His messengers. Whatever His angels and Messengers have learned we know it."

Majlisi   صحیح

Salaam Aleikum,

I believe this is enough for us to believe that Imams (عليه السلام) have far greater knowledge comparing to us fallible ones. As how much, only Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) knows. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

2 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Salaam Aleikum,

I believe this is enough for us to believe that Imams (عليه السلام) have far greater knowledge comparing to us fallible ones. As how much, only Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) knows. 

Exactly this. 

There are certain things the knowledge of which is exclusive to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) - like the timing of the judgement day, the exact timing of the appearance of Imam al-Asr (aj) and some other things. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

Jazakallah brother @Muslim2010 for your efforts. 

[layman]

On 6/27/2023 at 2:19 AM, Muslim2010 said:

Brothers would you like to comment on the conclusion of this thread?

@Cool @layman @Ethics  @Ashvazdanghe  

wasalam

Salamualaikum Bro,

Alhamdulillah for the sharing of knowledge. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you for your efforts. We recognize that knowledge encompasses various dimensions and levels. In this discussion, we have learned from the hadiths that the Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) possess a multidimensional and the highest level of knowledge attainable by any creation of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). It is Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) who has created these diverse dimensions and levels of knowledge.

Now, my concern is how we can access the knowledge of the Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) in order to find guidance on the right path and make it applicable to our daily lives as individuals. The Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) are our Wali (guardian) and Ulil Amr (those with authority). They can surely guide us in matters of rituals, spirituality, work, science, politics, cosmology, or any other knowledge necessary for our progression in life.

I firmly believe that the Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) are accessible and can guide us in any field of knowledge that an individual requires on a daily basis. This is why we are informed that the Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) possess a multidimensional and the highest level of knowledge. We can seek their guidance and rely on them at any given time by the Permission of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

Wallahulam.  

Layman