Thoughts 2023

[rkazmi33]

I often hear a Hadith by Imam Musa Kazim which says we have to divide our day in 4 parts: 1 part is for earning money, 1 part is for worship, 1 part is for sleeping/entertainment and 1 part is for spending with family and community. I have a problem with spending 6 hours in social interactions. For many people, social interaction IS entertainment, so they are in fact spending 12 hours in entertainment/sleeping. Also, doesn't Islam tell us to talk less? Sometimes even 5 minute conversation with someone can ruin my whole day. Can you imagine someone talking for 6 hours? How many sins they will commit? You have to interact with family and community so that they can inform you about your faults. If we follow this advice and listen to our faults for 6 hours daily, that will be so bad for mental health. Is this Hadith authentic? 

[Haji 2003]

1 hour ago, rkazmi33 said:

1 part is for spending with family and community.

This is not necessarily 6 hours of talking.

It could include voluntary work within the community, doing the shopping for elderly relatives and so on.

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1 part is for sleeping/entertainment

Given this includes sleeping, the entertainment bit will be quite short tbh.

[rkazmi33]

35 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

This is not necessarily 6 hours of talking.

It could include voluntary work within the community, doing the shopping for elderly relatives and so on.

 

Most people I know can easily spend 4 or 5 hours everyday just talking, and that interaction includes criticizing each other, being mean without any reason. That's why I thought those people invented this Hadith to justify their own lifestyle. 

Edited February 19 by rkazmi33

[Haji 2003]

1 minute ago, rkazmi33 said:

Most people I know can easily spend 4 or 5 hours everyday just talking. That's why I thought those people invented this Hadith to justify their own lifestyle. 

In broader terms I think the Hadith is interesting in terms of how it distinguishes 1/4 time spent on market-based activities i.e. those which involve money transactions and 1/4 which are non-monetary social transactions.

Just to put some contemporary context here.

I have some familiarity with the academic literature in the field of nursing which deals with what is known as 'social support', this has a fair amount of coverage in the area of palliative care, but covers others as well.

Anyway the forms that social support can take are economic, social, emotional, practical and informational.

You can obviously abstract this into broader areas of human interaction so the 1/4 the Hadith refers to can cover quite a wide array of things and obviously not just directed towards people who need palliative care.

 

[VoidVortex]

3 hours ago, rkazmi33 said:

I often hear a Hadith by Imam Musa Kazim which says we have to divide our day in 4 parts: 1 part is for earning money, 1 part is for worship, 1 part is for sleeping/entertainment and 1 part is for spending with family and community. I have a problem with spending 6 hours in social interactions. For many people, social interaction IS entertainment, so they are in fact spending 12 hours in entertainment/sleeping. Also, doesn't Islam tell us to talk less? Sometimes even 5 minute conversation with someone can r my whole day. Can you imagine someone talking for 6 hours? How many sins they will commit? You have to interact with family and community so that they can inform you about your faults. If we follow this advice and listen to our faults for 6 hours daily, that will be o bad for mental health. Is this Hadith authenti

Sleep is actually not included in the hadith, the hadith is about time when you are awake. Also it shouldn't be taken too literally. When the hadith talks about the socialising it specifically talks about people who will benefit you spiritually, so not any old kind of socialising. Yes Islam tells us to talk less so this kind of socialising would not be a vain kind, but being with spiritual people to spiritually benefit from them. Also it doesn't mean that conversations are all about reminding of faults, the reminding of faults part could be interpreted more as when you wish to spiritually develop you will be blind to some of your own faults so surround yourself with people who will tell you your faults so that you may treat those faults. when I get home maybe I'll try speak my thoughts on this more, but my thoughts are just my own opinion

[Quran313]

I believe that we should follow the concept of the hadith in our daily activities. We shouldn't measure the amount of time we spent on something. As long as we spend enough time on all the necessary activities and don't sin, we're good. 

[notme]

I haven't decided what I'm going to do with regard to long term employment, but I've decided I'm going to take the summer off. I've been going nonstop 16 hours a day for over a year and I'm going to burn out if i continue. My plans for the summer are to take care of my kids and my garden, and if I get bored (I won't) I might work on some home improvement projects.  

[rkazmi33]

On 2/19/2023 at 12:55 PM, VoidVortex said:

Sleep is actually not included in the hadith, the hadith is about time when you are awake. Also it shouldn't be taken too literally. 

This is the problem with hadiths. Too many people take hadiths literally without using any common sense. They are like robots we   see in dystopian movies. If they are told, they have to stop people from cheating and drinking alcohol, they will do it like crazy robots, punishing all the people they suspect are drinking or cheating. That's why I get worried about every new hadith that's repeated frequently. I know that's the next thing which will be shoved down our throats. 

Edited February 20 by rkazmi33

[AbdusSibtayn]

Many disagreements with this but hilarious nonetheless.

[AbdusSibtayn]

5 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Many disagreements with this but hilarious nonetheless.

Aspiring to be 'Hadith Hoarding Hamoud', In sha' Allah wa Qurbatan ila Allah.

[Quran313]

3 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Many disagreements with this but hilarious nonetheless.

Some statements are correct but some wrong. We can't generalize or assign every shia to a group in this photo. 

I've seen some people in the community who pretend to be a practicing muslim but beg for other people attention and constantly post something new on facebook insta etc. It's pathetic.

[Diaz]

These earthquake that has been happening these few days in many countries is really freaking me out. 

[Haji 2003]

[AbdusSibtayn]

On 2/22/2023 at 1:13 AM, Quran313 said:

Some statements are correct but some wrong. We can't generalize or assign every shia to a group in this photo. 

I've seen some people in the community who pretend to be a practicing muslim but beg for other people attention and constantly post something new on facebook insta etc. It's pathetic.

 

On 2/21/2023 at 9:19 PM, AbdusSibtayn said:

Many disagreements with this but hilarious nonetheless.

 

[AbdusSibtayn]

Like I was saying, love is shirk.

https://twitter.com/TahaNaqvi114/status/1628209434420715521?s=20

[VoidVortex]

love is not shirk per se(shirk here means concealed polytheism, not minor polytheism like riya or major polytheism). If the love is for the sake of Allah its not concealed shirk. 

There was someone who was very agitated because they had just gotten married and loved their wife a lot, but they felt guilty because they thought it was a kind of betrayal to Allah. He asked a mystic about this, and the mystic told him the more he loved his spouse the more he loves god

The blanket statement "love is shirk" is problematic and it should be clarified

(1) The more you love your spouse, The more you will love God! | Ayatollah Tihrani| - YouTube

[AbdusSibtayn]

5 hours ago, VoidVortex said:

love is not shirk per se(shirk here means concealed polytheism, not minor polytheism like riya or major polytheism). If the love is for the sake of Allah its not concealed shirk. 

There was someone who was very agitated because they had just gotten married and loved their wife a lot, but they felt guilty because they thought it was a kind of betrayal to Allah. He asked a mystic about this, and the mystic told him the more he loved his spouse the more he loves god

The blanket statement "love is shirk" is problematic and it should be clarified

(1) The more you love your spouse, The more you will love God! | Ayatollah Tihrani| - YouTube

Take it lightly dadasham it's a joke.

[Haji 2003]

 

[Quran313]

I recently realized how good HSA account is. You save a lot on your medical bills (I hope you never end up going to hospital). Your company may contribute some amount as well. Just ask them.

Edited March 1 by Quran313

[Haji 2003]

Pakistan High Commission, London

Quite sad visiting this place.

The building is impressive and in an exclusive part of London. More exclusive than e.g. the Iranian embassy. It was donated many decades ago to Pakistan by the Raja of Mahmoodabad. He and his family are Shias, but anyway.

The exterior is still in keeping with the nice buildings around (likely due to local planning requirements).

But.

The Interior.

Imagine you went to a local hardware shop and bought the cheapest fixtures and fittings you could find. Then imagine you tried to find the most incompetent tradesmen available. People who are not only useless, but also take no pride in their work. Then imagine that the person who commissioned the work did not care what the result was like either.

And that is what the interior of the Pakistan High Commission looks like.

A conspiracy theorist might believe that someone on the inside got their taxi-driving relatives/friends to do the work - but I won't go there.

[notme]

Salam alaikum

This may sound silly, but can y'all offer up some duas for my beehive? They survived the winter,  but now they're sick and I'm not sure they're going to make it. Yesterday there was a shocking pile of corpses outside the hive entrance, and when I opened it up I saw small hive beetles and ants everywhere.  Small hive beetles have to be trapped or individually killed,  and the larvae not allowed to hatch, so that's a big task, and I have no idea what to do about the ants. I'm going to try relocating the hive, but with my work schedule I have no idea when, or how I'm going to do the necessary daily checks to keep the beetles at bay.  

[Ashvazdanghe]

21 hours ago, notme said:

but can y'all offer up some duas for my beehive?

Salam

According to proven experience, in order to get rid of vermin, whoever writes verse 243 of Surah Al-Baqarah on a plate or paper and washes it in water and sprinkles it in the house, all animals and vermin in the house will be destroyed.

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أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِينَ خَرَجُوا مِن دِيَارِهِمْ وَهُمْ أُلُوفٌ حَذَرَ الْمَوْتِ فَقَالَ لَهُمُ اللَّهُ مُوتُوا ثُمَّ أَحْيَاهُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَذُو فَضْلٍ عَلَى النَّاسِ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَشْكُرُونَ

 

‏Have you not regarded those who left their homes in thousands, apprehensive of death, whereupon Allah said to them, ‘Die,’ then He revived them? Indeed Allah is gracious to mankind, but most people do not give thanks. (243)

https://tanzil.net/#trans/en.qarai/2:243

 

[Laila Ali Haid]

12 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam

According to proven experience, in order to get rid of vermin, whoever writes verse 243 of Surah Al-Baqarah on a plate or paper and washes it in water and sprinkles it in the house, all animals and vermin in the house will be destroyed.

https://tanzil.net/#trans/en.qarai/2:243

 

Salaam,

Do you actually have experience with this and that it works? I don't know because I thought u need to bring in pest control to get rid of vermin.

[notme]

The bees are looking better today.  They're still not perfectly fine,  but today they've cleaned up their hive a bit and they were out pollinating and collecting nectar.  

I'm probably going to end up needing to cull some drone brood, and I'm so not feeling like a farmer. Killing baby animals because they grow to to be useless is difficult for me. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

8 hours ago, Laila Ali Haid said:

Salaam,

Do you actually have experience with this and that it works? I don't know because I thought u need to bring in pest control to get rid of vermin.

Salam yeah I have had exprienced myself although it doesn't mean that "u don't need to bring in pest control to get rid of vermin."

[AbdusSibtayn]

Salamun alaikum, 

Greetings to everyone on the blessed birth of our awaited saviour (aj)! 

This is my last post on this board, and today my decade-long journey here comes to an end. I have asked for deregistration, and I am indebted to all those who made my SC experience a happy and enriching one. I have learned a lot from a great many individuals, and I owe much to this forum. 

Brothers @Ashvazdanghe,  @ali_fatheroforphans and @Sirius_Bright and @Eddie Mecca(if and when they see it) - my special gratitude to you all. I owe a lot to each one of you. I don't know if I will be honoured before my Lord on the Day of Judgement, but if I am allowed to intercede for someone, I am not setting foot in paradise without you all. 

Special thanks to brothers @Abu Hadi,  @Irfani313,  @Zainu (if and when they see it) as well. Also must mention brothers @Qa'im and @Ibn Al-Ja'abi too. You have all taught me much in various ways, and my debt to you remains. 

Thanks to sister @Hameedeh for always being the go-to person. 

Also my gratitude to @Northwest for being a great interlocutor. You have led me to rethink and re-examine a lot of things, which has been very intellectually enriching. 

Also my thanks to the admin panel for keeping everything efficient and point-device here. 

Prayers for everyone. 

May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) grant everyone good in here and in the hereafter. 

[Hameedeh]

12 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

I don't know if I will be honoured before my Lord on the Day of Judgement, but if I am allowed to intercede for someone, I am not setting foot in paradise without you all. 

Salam, Brother. What a wonderful last post you have made in this topic. Thank you for all the good things you said about members you wanted to mention before you leave.

My thoughts are: we all do the best that we can, and sorry for any shortcomings. InShaAllah you leave with a good feeling that you made the right decision. We definitely will miss you. ShiaChat is here for all of us. Come back anytime. 

[Guest Window]

My divorce was very painful. I know many people who have gotten divorced and they turn into bitter people. I decided that I would just move on from a bad marriage and rebuild my life. 

Why does Allah allow marriages that end in divorce to even take place? What is the purpose? 

[notme]

3 hours ago, Guest Window said:

Why does Allah allow marriages that end in divorce to even take place?

Free will.

Marriage that isn't consensual is not valid.  

[Haji 2003]

11 hours ago, notme said:

Free will.

Marriage that isn't consensual is not valid.  

Yes.

A lot of the 'why does God allow x to happen?' questions have free will as the answer. 

[Guest Today]

*Us talking about cars*

Me: A car is just a car. A rose is just a rose... as Shakespeare said. 

My husband: Sheikh ... Spear? (Completely serious) 

 

[rkazmi33]

I remember watching a friends episode in which Joey used a hands gesture to hint that a woman was "curvy". I have noticed that hand gesture is being used too much especially by scholars in my community. It's a common gesture and I understand that some people may use it unknowingly but when it's repeated over and over again, you know it's a deliberate attempt at shaming curvy women. I know that they are trying to get people to become healthier but why only focus on women? And this is a very bad method, it only makes me angry. They also keep talking about breastfeeding which is another way to sexualize and shame curvy women. I tried to find anything on the internet which can show that this hand gesture is inappropriate and sexual harassment but I couldn't find anything. Can someone please help me find anything which I can share? It's so hurtful!!!! You can expect this behavior from non-muslims but when it's coming from your own Muslim community, especially scholars in Islamic center, it's just disgusting. It seems like a trend. First I saw my coworkers doing it and now Muslim scholars are following the trend. 

[notme]

I got invited to an interview for a job as a science teacher at the school where my daughter is a student.  

They're going to ask why I'm leaving my current job.  I don't know what I'm going to say.  I guess the best thing is to be honest and tell them my principal told me she isn't planning to recommend renewal of my contract.  

[AbdusSibtayn]

[Sirius_Bright]

On 3/7/2023 at 7:46 PM, AbdusSibtayn said:

Brothers @Ashvazdanghe,  @ali_fatheroforphans and @Sirius_Bright and @Eddie Mecca(if and when they see it) - my special gratitude to you all. I owe a lot to each one of you. I don't know if I will be honoured before my Lord on the Day of Judgement, but if I am allowed to intercede for someone, I am not setting foot in paradise without you all. 

Thank you brother. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) keep you on Sirat al Mustaqeem.