Mehdi Hassan and Digital Footprint

[Eddie Mecca]

Mehdi does something good...we should praise it...Mehdi does something wrong...we should condemn it...it's that simple...we can't judge the hearts or the intentions...but we can judge the words and the deeds that the tongues and the limbs perform in the physical world...I haven't seen the interview that got him fired yet...if someone can post it that would be great...'Real Reason MSNBC Canceled Mehdi Hassan'...Jimmy Dore...(7 minutes)…"Mehdi Hasan’s MSNBC show has been canceled, most likely over the host’s outspoken opposition to Israel during the recent outbreak of violence between the IDF and Hamas. Meanwhile, Piers Morgan continues with his BBC show despite occasionally allowing anti-Israel voices on his program to express their perspectives, even if it never seems to have an effect on Morgan himself. Jimmy and Due Dissidence hosts Russell Dobular and Keaton Weiss discuss the two hosts and whether they harbor any redeeming features as journalists." 

Real Reason MSNBC Canceled Mehdi Hassan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_WNp5zSY7g

[Abu_Zahra]

Let this be a lesson to everyone that even if you do make compromises to try and fit in with the media and political establishment,  it will never be enough. 

[Muhammed Ali]

8 hours ago, Abu_Zahra said:

Let this be a lesson to everyone that even if you do make compromises to try and fit in with the media and political establishment,  it will never be enough. 

Having people that have made compromises to obtain positions of influence is better than having no one.  

I wouldn't do it myself but I am glad that people like Mehdi Hasan and Ilhan Omar have some influence. Think about what it was like 20 years ago when Israel would receive far less criticism in the MSM and among American politicians. 

I think their compromises should have limits and be well strategised.  

Edited December 3, 2023 by Muhammed Ali

[Eddie Mecca]

Instead of being forcefully removed from MSNBC, he should have left on his own accord a long time ago...From firebrand Shi'i activist to propagandist for the establishment (smdh)...hopefully being fired from MSNBC will be a tawbah moment for Hasan but probably not...he'll probably pick up where he left off and go work for another Comcast-affiliated news channel...Mehdi has high viewership and enough popularity now where he could easily go the route of Tucker Carlson or Russell Brand or Joe Rogan and establish his own independent podcast and provide the world with much needed authentic journalism...he could be Richard Medhurst multiplied by a thousand...Mehdi Hassan 'Messed' Around And Found Out (Part 2)...Mehdi Hasan Gone For Good From MSNBC...Jimmy Dore...11 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frNYDcY0_ko

[Irfani313]

Mehdi Hasan has launched his own media company and is requesting all of us to become the paid subscribers ($6 a month) inshaAllah.

https://www.zeteonews.com

Now that Mehdi Hasan is free from the corporate lords of cream cheese, his real journalist would come out and I for one am grabbing the front row. 
 

Again highly recommending to subscribe, vote independent journalism with your wallet, and become the part of the anti MSM movement. Remember this is the time to do it, they are afraid, they have seen the power of citizen-media, 40% young voters who mostly watch TikTok and reject MSMs, now is the best time to prop up independence against the tyranny of ZioMedia. 

 

[Eddie Mecca]

"Mehdi Hasan is a sack of ______ opportunist" - Norm Finkelstein - 3 minutes

 

[Eddie Mecca]

Max Blumenthal of the Grayzone calls Mehdi Hasan an OPPORTUNIST - Sabby Sabs - 18 minutes - 6 days ago 

 

[mahmood8726]

35 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Max Blumenthal of the Grayzone calls Mehdi Hasan an OPPORTUNIST - Sabby Sabs - 18 minutes - 6 days ago 

 

Because he is. Even the martyred refat al areer in gaza who was killed by the idf last year, insulted mehdi for being such a low life. 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 6, 2024 by mahmood8726

[Eddie Mecca]

On 12/3/2023 at 3:59 PM, Muhammed Ali said:

have some influence.

Brother, they have no influence...they are the ones being influenced and it's damaging their souls bigtime 

Edited November 6, 2024 by Eddie Mecca

[Panzerwaffe]

How are you all surprised ? 

MH was a race baiting traitor from day 1 

 

[mahmood8726]

44 minutes ago, Panzerwaffe said:

How are you all surprised ? 

MH was a race baiting traitor from day 1 

 

His real issue is him endorsing the Democratic party, him being disingenious on ukraine-russia and him being disingenious on politics in general, him working for msnbc and then likley pretending to care about the palestinian cause. It's shameful behaviour, he comes off as a grifter when he does this.

[Panzerwaffe]

2 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

His real issue is him endorsing the Democratic party, him being disingenious on ukraine-russia and him being disingenious on politics in general, him working for msnbc and then likley pretending to care about the palestinian cause. It's shameful behaviour, he comes off as a grifter when he does this.

Right that’s him from day 1 a charlatan 

Sucks up to liberals as it’s the unholy hijabi hippy alliance of the leftist political system 

[mahmood8726]

1 hour ago, Panzerwaffe said:

Right that’s him from day 1 a charlatan 

Sucks up to liberals as it’s the unholy hijabi hippy alliance of the leftist political system 

That's unfortunatley most celebrities or pundits in the west, most are charlatans, right or "left", or they're ignorant.

[Muhammed Ali]

On 11/6/2024 at 4:02 PM, Eddie Mecca said:

Brother, they have no influence...they are the ones being influenced and it's damaging their souls bigtime 

He has 1.6 million followers on Twitter and makes pro-Palestinian posts very often. He reaches people that other pro-Palestinians don't. 

Perhaps souls are being damaged. I wouldn't do what he does but I can't judge his soul.

[mahmood8726]

13 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

He has 1.6 million followers on Twitter and makes pro-Palestinian posts very often. He reaches people that other pro-Palestinians don't. 

Perhaps souls are being damaged. I wouldn't do what he does but I can't judge his soul.

That's effectively why he's being scrutinized, someone with an influence and power such as his should be selling out like this and then claim to be pro palestinian at the same time. His selling out to establishment is pushing many people away from his message who would otherwise listen to him if he wasn't a shill for the same democratic party that slaughtered the very people he claims to support all these years.

[Abu Hadi]

I think the episode with MH and others should be a lesson for us. Our leaders are Imams of Ahl Al Bayt((عليه السلام)) and our marjaa. Period. 

Others like celebrities and media personalities, even if they do say good things sometimes, are not our leaders. We should not look to them for guidance. 

We might get some useful information from them. I listen to MH, Grayzone, E.I., Media Benjamin, even TYT network, Breaking Points News, etc. I also watch Fox sometimes and also CNN and MSNBC, but not very much anymore, tbh as there are better and less bias sources of information. Take it all in, but none of it is gospel truth. It is all biased and spun in a particular direction for the interests of those who run the particular media outlet. 

Some are closer to Haqq and some are further from it. None of them is worthy to be called a leader and we should not follow them as in taking a stance or not taking a stance based on what they say or don't say. We should not admire to them or look to them for guidance. They are entertainers who sometimes give us useful information. That is the extent of it. If you keep this attitude then it is better for this life and the hereafter. 

Here's an example to illustrate the point. I personally know more than 1 muslima who used to wear hijab and removed it and no longer wears it. What they say is 'Well I watch T.V. and watch the news  (English news) and I don't see any of the women wearing it and those women seem to be successful, moral, etc'. So when she does this, she is taking those media women as leaders and not Imams of Ahl Al Bayt((عليه السلام)) and marjaa' who are in agreement that hijab is wajib, and it doesn't matter where you live. This is one example, there are many others. 

Edited November 13, 2024 by Abu Hadi

[mahmood8726]

5 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

That's effectively why he's being scrutinized, someone with an influence and power such as his should be selling out like this and then claim to be pro palestinian at the same time.

Should not* 

[Muhammed Ali]

On 11/13/2024 at 10:56 AM, mahmood8726 said:

That's effectively why he's being scrutinized, someone with an influence and power such as his should be selling out like this and then claim to be pro palestinian at the same time. His selling out to establishment is pushing many people away from his message who would otherwise listen to him if he wasn't a shill for the same democratic party that slaughtered the very people he claims to support all these years.

Are you suggesting he isn't pro-Palestinian? A faulty accusation of that nature is a grave sin.

[mahmood8726]

12 minutes ago, Muhammed Ali said:

Are you suggesting he isn't pro-Palestinian? A faulty accusation of that nature is a grave sin.

Yes and no, I am claiming 2 possibilities, both of which involve him shilling for the democratic party, the same party that is responsible for the slaugther of so many innocents and the current ongoing genocide.

His speeche is pro palestinian, but is he genuenly pro palestinian when he's selling out to the same camp that slaugthers them? Is he deluded into supporting that same camp? Either he's deluded or malicious.

 

I genuenly don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand that a highly influential figure like him who has been in a multitude of debates, is informed more than the average layman, should know better than to not support these obviously evil organisations/parties/people whilst also claiming he supports palestine, it doesn't help his case. It's absolutely not a sin to point this dishonesty out, it's not a sin to point this out, this is basic enjoying good and forbidding evil. 

Edited November 16, 2024 by mahmood8726

[Muhammed Ali]

1 minute ago, mahmood8726 said:

Yes and no, I am claiming 2 possibilities, both of which involve him shilling for the democratic party, the same party that is responsible for the slaugther of so many innocents and the current ongoing genocide.

His speeche is pro palestinian, but is he genuenly pro palestinian when he's selling out to the same camp that slaugthers them? Is he deluded into supporting that same camp? 

 

I genuenly don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand that a highly influential figure like him who has been in a multitude of debates, is informed more than the average layman, should know better than to not support these obviously evil organisations/parties/people whilst also claiming he supports palestine, it doesn't help his case. It's absolutely not a sin to point this dishonesty out, it's not a sin to point this out, this is basic enjoying good and forbidding evil. 

Hasn't he repeatedly accused the Democrats of assisting in genocide? He thinks they should have been given the vote for being the lesser evil.

You and I both disagree with his views on that party and on other matters, but I wont accuse him of being a fake supporter of the Palestinians. That would be an act of gross injustice.

There are pro-Palestinians who voted for Trump, should we accuse them of being Zionists? We can criticize them for making the wrong decisions and having incorrect views in other areas. 

[Abu Hadi]

If he is a Muslim we have to take him at his word that he supports Palestinian rights. I haven't seen any evidence that proves otherwise. Which means he is on Haqq regarding this issue. That doesn't mean he is on Haqq in general. I don't know enough about him to know that. 

He is also a media personality, so their 'bread and butter' is media exposure. He needs to keep his name out there in one way or another so that he can continue to strengthen and expand his social media presence. This is how he makes money / his career. I am not saying this is a good career choice but it is the career he has chosen for himself and this drives many of his decisions. 

 

[mahmood8726]

3 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

Hasn't he repeatedly accused the Democrats of assisting in genocide? He thinks they should have been given the vote for being the lesser evil.

That's precisely what I'm critiquing, it's a nasty argument that is often used by both liberals and conservatives to justify voting for their party when a lot of the time they don't necessarily care about the palestinian cause and are using this statement as an excuse. Most people who make this excuse are either really brainwashed or they're malicious and prioritize abortion, lgbt, hating Trump, hating immigrants, hating wokeness, over the genocide these parties are commiting. These priorities are insane and disgusting. 

 

The reason why I am more inclined to see mehdi hassan as being dishonest rather than just brainwashed, is because hes more informed than your average person and he has repeatedly advocated for that party despite being shown many times even before this genocide that his party isnt good. And im not the only one calling him out on this, hes been called out by many people who are more knowledgable than me on this and said made the same critiques. Mehdi simply put has an intrest of defending the democratic given he worked for media outlets like msnbc who endorse them a lot.

 

Is there a chance he is just brainwashed and doesn't know better? Maybe, but it's unlikely. 

3 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

You and I both disagree with his views on that party and on other matters, but I wont accuse him of being a fake supporter of the Palestinians. That would be an act of gross injustice.

If he is supporting the democrats and "voting blue no matter what", then that by definition is a fake supporter, sorry for my harsh language, but it needs to be called out, you even proved my point, he endorsed them using a terrible excuse of "lesser of two evils" as a justification, hes voting for them no matter what, even if they nuke Gaza, he would vote for them as if they already didn't kill 300k already. 

If by any means he is brainwashed, then I apologize to him, but I am confident he isn't brainwashed, he's not some random guy, 90% he knows what he's doing and he's been called out so many times.

3 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

There are pro-Palestinians who voted for Trump, should we accuse them of being Zionists? We can criticize them for making the wrong decisions and having incorrect views in other areas. 

Many of these pro Palestinians who voted for Trump have fallen into 2 camps since trump picked his admin. The angry camp and the brainwashed/dishonest camp. 

The angry camp, became mature, they realized Trump lied and they distanced themselves away from him, just like the democrats who didn't vote for kamala. These people are commendable.

The brainwashed/dishonest camp, as I said is divided in 2, either they're brainwashed and are having a sort of coping mechanism or they're evil and they're deluding themselves into justifying their choice of voting for this evil man. The evil of them, justify their messed up priorities where their hatered of woke people and lgbt is more important than the killing innocents. 

Edited November 16, 2024 by mahmood8726

[Hassu93]

Mehdi is an opportunist. I still remember how he gave fire to Israeli rumors about possibility of Hamas attacking an Hosiptal in Gaza last year and here we are 1 year later and Israel has attacked almost every hospital there.

[Muhammed Ali]

On 11/16/2024 at 10:08 PM, mahmood8726 said:

Most people who make this excuse are either really brainwashed or they're malicious and prioritize abortion, lgbt, hating Trump, hating immigrants, hating wokeness, over the genocide these parties are commiting. These priorities are insane and disgusting. 

I share your displeasure about those that vote for evil warmongers. I remember feeling like this after the Iraq war when the UK decided to vote yet again for Blair and the US for Bush. It is completely unacceptable. There is no way I would have voted for either Trump or Kamala.

I think presenting a brainwashed - malicious dichotomy isn't quite correct. There will be more people that are ignorant than those who are "brainwashed". However being so ignorant is probably not justifiable for most people, considering the information that is available.

You must remember that there can be degrees to people's personal attributes. A person that votes for a certain party doesn't automatically become 100% anti-Palestinian, malicious or brainwashed. Especially considering that some argued that Trump would be worse on the Palestinian issue (and not just on other issues) and that there was no benefit in voting for a third party or abstaining. I disagree with them on the latter part but I wont immediately accuse them of being a fake Palestine supporter. It's understandable why some fear a man who the Israelis themselves wanted to win.

If Mehdi Hasan wanted Kamala to win because of the issues you highlighted then he is worthy of being condemned. But if he thought Trump would be much worse for the Palestinians then our response to him requires a different approach.