Tate Brothers Released From Jail

[Eddie Mecca]

Tate Brothers Released From Jail...(3 min.)…"When I was in jail I focused on doing pushups and reading the Qurʾān." - Andrew Tate

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMlqq3GFIJE

[AbdusSibtayn]

3 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Tate Brothers Released From Jail...(3 min.)…"When I was in jail I focused on doing pushups and reading the Qurʾān." - Andrew Tate

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMlqq3GFIJE

Are they still p*mping though? Or have they repented from their filthy trade and paid radd al-mazalim to their victims ? 

Edited April 1 by AbdusSibtayn

[Eddie Mecca]

17 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Are they still p*mping though?

Yeah, they definitely need to find a new line of work from an Islamic standpoint...leave the webcamming nonsense behind...we'll see what the future holds for them...hopefully the human trafficking allegations are false...may Allah give them hidāyah

[AbdusSibtayn]

5 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Yeah, they definitely need to find a new line of work from an Islamic standpoint...leave the webcamming nonsense behind...we'll see what the future holds for them...hopefully the human trafficking allegations are false...may Allah give them hidāyah

Trafficking or no trafficking, their income is haram and their work is a deplorable one; it is basically online prostitution/brothel keeping. Such individuals should never be allowed to become youth icons. 

It is indeed a 'crisis of masculinity' among the male Muslim populace when a degenerate pimp becomes a folk hero among Muslim men. 'Castrated egos', as Freud would describe the situation. 

 

[hamz786]

Islam has such a variety of great role models in recent times (Sunni and Shia) but somehow we've all gravitated towards Andrew Tate instead. I hope for his sake he is genuine in his Islam, or at the very least will take it more seriously now. 

[realizm]

I find it very difficult to accept any ex convict or rapper known for their misbehaviour or sometimes crimes as models juste because they accepted shahada. I see things on Instagram which are pathetic, with tattoed face guys filming themselves praying salat etc... And hundreds commenting like 'mashallah you're an inspiration to any muslims'. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

3 hours ago, realizm said:

I find it very difficult to accept any ex convict or rapper known for their misbehaviour or sometimes crimes as models juste because they accepted shahada. I see things on Instagram which are pathetic, with tattoed face guys filming themselves praying salat etc... And hundreds commenting like 'mashallah you're an inspiration to any muslims'. 

Unfortunately some people are so deep and obsessively into the culture wars polemics, and have such psychotic persecution complex that any contrarian voice to the current left-liberal consensus, however rotten and wayward on its own account, becomes morally acceptable and an 'Islamic' alternative to them. The result is fujjār and fussāq like the Tate clan, or Zio-Crusader harbī kuffār like Jordan Peterson being made icons among Muslims. 

Strange inferiority complex and rot of ignorance it is. Of course they are not bothered to find what the actual Islamic position on the issue is. Most have nil knowledge of fiqh and aqeedah. But just because some opinion is opposing the decidedly anti-Islamic Left-Liberal position, it becomes morally acceptable by default. The result is these illiterate dimwitted Muslims parroting neocon or obnoxious 'redpill' talking-points. 

If only they bothered to educate themselves about what the religion actually says, they'd not be worshipping these cretins. 

Wassalam. 

Edited April 1 by AbdusSibtayn

[AbdusSibtayn]

3 hours ago, hamz786 said:

Islam has such a variety of great role models in recent times (Sunni and Shia) but somehow we've all gravitated towards Andrew Tate instead. I hope for his sake he is genuine in his Islam, or at the very least will take it more seriously now. 

If Tate knew what the Shar'i penalty for his misdeeds is -now that he's atleast nominally Muslim- I doubt he'd even bother taking the shahadah. 

[Mightyspunge]

On 4/1/2023 at 10:54 AM, AbdusSibtayn said:

If Tate knew what the Shar'i penalty for his misdeeds is -now that he's atleast nominally Muslim- I doubt he'd even bother taking the shahadah. 

Wallahi I feel shame for this ummah. All whilst the masses go towards Sunni Islam en masse, it’s like one huge joke.

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 4/1/2023 at 3:18 PM, realizm said:

I find it very difficult to accept any ex convict or rapper known for their misbehaviour or sometimes crimes as models juste because they accepted shahada. I see things on Instagram which are pathetic, with tattoed face guys filming themselves praying salat etc... And hundreds commenting like 'mashallah you're an inspiration to any muslims'. 

Salam we don't know really what is in their hearts also judging them based on previous mistakes about their body is not right way which maybe they really repented & accepted Islam sincearly  although they can't release from signs their mistake before accepting Islam which is a defection in apperance not heart  which also it's possible that some people with typical good apperance of an Islamic role model maybe have hidden corruption in their hearts .

 

[realizm]

On 4/4/2023 at 12:01 PM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam we don't know really what is in their hearts also judging them based on previous mistakes about their body is not right way which maybe they really repented & accepted Islam sincearly  although they can't release from signs their mistake before accepting Islam which is a defection in apperance not heart  which also it's possible that some people with typical good apperance of an Islamic role model maybe have hidden corruption in their hearts .

 

Problem is why should the youth take ex criminals - even if they are repented - as inspirational figures. Implying that crime or sins are almost part of the spiritual path. 

Also, I find it very strange that while putting their sins behind them, they jump on a new one which is that of ostentation. A repented heart should not feel the need to let everybody know they found God, at least not on social media. 

Edited April 6 by realizm

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 4/6/2023 at 9:33 PM, realizm said:

Problem is why should the youth take ex criminals - even if they are repented - as inspirational figures. Implying that crime or sins are almost part of the spiritual path. 

Also, I find it very strange that while putting their sins behind them, they jump on a new one which is that of ostentation. A repented heart should not feel the need to let everybody know they found God, at least not on social media. 

Salam it depends on their mentors after converting to Islam which if they have had good mentors & supporters so then they could become good  inspirational figures which as I know two of them Hamid Hussein Waqar ( Michael Booth) & Mateen Joshua Charbonneau who have been converted to Shia Islam so then became good inspirational figures which if you can find book of “Over the Wall” " حجره‌ای برای گانگستر" by Michael Booth (Hamid Hussein Waqar) so then it shows best way of converting a member of criminal gang to a inspirational figure but on the other hand if new converts likewise mr.Tate have bad mentors likeiwise wahabi mentors so therefore they will jump to a new one sin .

https://en.estebsar.ir/2015/07/03/over-the-wall-by-michael-booth-hamid-hussein-waqar/

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/5624620.Hamid_Hussein_Waqar

https://www.al-islam.org/person/hamid-hussein-waqar

https://en.estebsar.ir/2015/02/14/christians-who-defended-and-died-for-prophet-muhammad-and-his-family-written-by-mateen-joshua-charbonneau/

 

 

 

[313_Waiter]

Salam 

Interesting that Tate was released on the same day that the Matrix movie was released.

also interesting that Tate mentioned he did 7417 pushups. Here’s reportedly hadith number 7417 in Sahih Muslim:

Quote

 

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:

The world is a prison-house for a believer and Paradise for a non-believer.

 

 

[313_Waiter]

Let’s not jump on the Tate’s hate bandwagon and bring up his past. Nor should we jump on the idolisation bandwagon. Only the Ahlulbayt are our role models.

 

He’s a Muslim brother from a shar’i sense once he takes the shahada, let’s leave it at that.

[Guest what a joke]

When everyone is (رضي الله عنه) everyone immoral, ignorant, and highly corrupt becomes "may Allah be pleased with them". Who cares if they do criminal acts, who cares about their evil past, lets just ignore that and follow the worse people as rolemodels all because what? They "accepted islam". Alhamdulliah because of Shia Imami ideology we are not that stupid to follow any idiotic people for the dumbest reasons when we have our Prophets & Ahlulbayt as our ultimate rolemodels.

[realizm]

7 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam it depends on their mentors after converting to Islam which if they have had good mentors & supporters so then they could become good  inspirational figures which as I know two of them Hamid Hussein Waqar ( Michael Booth) & Mateen Joshua Charbonneau who have been converted to Shia Islam so then became good inspirational figures which if you can find book of “Over the Wall” " حجره‌ای برای گانگستر" by Michael Booth (Hamid Hussein Waqar) so then it shows best way of converting a member of criminal gang to a inspirational figure but on the other hand if new converts likewise mr.Tate have bad mentors likeiwise wahabi mentors so therefore they will jump to a new one sin .

https://en.estebsar.ir/2015/07/03/over-the-wall-by-michael-booth-hamid-hussein-waqar/

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/5624620.Hamid_Hussein_Waqar

https://www.al-islam.org/person/hamid-hussein-waqar

https://en.estebsar.ir/2015/02/14/christians-who-defended-and-died-for-prophet-muhammad-and-his-family-written-by-mateen-joshua-charbonneau/

 

 

 

Big difference between studying at the seminary and preaching to mature  audiences in mosques (like Mateen Charbonneau),  and becoming youth icons on delusional virtual places like Instagram or Tiktok. 

Big big difference in my opinion. 

Allah guide us all. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

18 hours ago, realizm said:

Big big difference in my opinion. 

Sala yeah it's really a "Big big difference" although it depends on their charcteristic & mentoring which someone with good chracter & strong will & pure heart even can use delusional virtual places like Instagram or Tiktok for helping & guiding youth but on the other hand a corrupt scholar with weakness in heart maybe causes deviation of mature people in mosques.

[Haji 2003]