U.S TAP Water Chemical Contamination!

[EiE]

Your tap water was already poisoned, now they adding more poison. BE CAREFUL GIVING IT TO MINORS!

[PureExistence1]

Salaam, i know they add fluoride almost everywhere which there's a BIG court case going on against the EPA due to "forced fluoridation", which thd evidence is coming out that it reduces the IQ in children who's mother's drink fluoridated water, and i know (i can smell it) that in most inner city tap water theres alot of bleach thats supposedly at a safe level,(even though bleach is corosive-i prefer not drink it) and I've heard of pharmaceuticals and birth control meds being detected in the water, but what specifically are you referring to? Something new?

National Toxicology Program Find’s No Safe Level of Fluoride in Drinking Water; Water Fluoridation Policy Threatened  After a 6-year long systematic review of fluoride’s impact on the developing brain, a court order has led to the National Toxicology Program (NTP) making public their finalized report that was blocked by US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) leadership and concealed from the public for the past 10 months. The NTP reported 52 of 55 studies found decreases in child IQ associated with increase in fluoride, a remarkable 95% consistency. The NTP’s report says:   “Our meta-analysis confirms results of previous meta-analyses and extends them by including newer, more precise studies with individual-level exposure measures. The data support a consistent inverse association between fluoride exposure and children's IQ.”   A meta-analysis is when information from all the relevant studies are combined to get a fuller and unbiased overall picture, rather than just looking at individual studies in isolation.   The NTP’s meta-analysis also put the magnitude of harm into perspective:   "[R]esearch on other neurotoxicants has shown that subtle shifts in IQ at the population level can have a profound impact on the number of people who fall within the high and low ranges of the population's IQ distribution. For example, a 5-point decrease in a population's IQ would nearly double the number of people classified as intellectually disabled.”   So, while an average drop of 5 IQ points in a population might sound small it is huge from a public health perspective. Furthermore, the NTP acknowledged there was the potential for some people to be more susceptible than average [use NTP quote], so those people could lose much more than 5 IQ points. Those susceptible individuals could lose 10, 15, 20 or more IQ points which would likely cause profound lifetime negative consequences.    The five independent peer-reviewers of the NTP report all voted to accept the review’s main conclusion and lauded the report. Their comments include: “what you have done is state-of-the-art”; “the analysis itself is excellent, and you thoroughly addressed comments”; “Well done!”; “Findings… were interpreted objectively”.   The newly released documents include comments from the NTP’s own experts confirming that the report’s conclusion that fluoride can lower IQ does apply to communities with water fluoridation programs.  NTP report says the evidence is not just in those who drink water with higher fluoride concentrations exceeding the World Health Organization (WHO) recommended maximum level of 1.5 mg/L. Furthermore, the WHO guideline was set in 1984 to protect against more severe forms of dental fluorosis and neurotoxicity was never considered. Few neurotoxicity studies even existed in 1984.   In numerous responses to comments by reviewers of the report, the NTP made clear that they had found evidence that exposures of at least some people in areas with fluoridated water at 0.7 mg/L were associated with lower child IQ.   For example, when an unnamed government fluoridation proponent claimed:   "The data do not support the assertion of an effect below 1.5 mg/L…all conclusory statements in this document should be explicit that any findings from the included studies only apply to water fluoride concentrations above 1.5 mg/L."   The NTP responded:   "We do not agree with this comment…our assessment considers fluoride exposures from all sources, not just water…because fluoride is also found in certain foods, dental products, some pharmaceuticals, and other sources… Even in the optimally fluoridated cities…individual exposure levels…suggest widely varying total exposures from water combined with fluoride from other sources."   Additional NTP responses about the review’s relevance to water fluoridation programs:   "We have no basis on which to state that our findings are not relevant to some children or pregnant people in the United States."   "Several of the highest quality studies showing lower IQs in children were done in optimally fluoridated (0.7 mg/L) areas…many urinary fluoride measurements exceed those that would be expected from consuming water that contains fluoride at 1.5 mg/L."   The NTP also responded to commenters asking whether their meta-analysis had identified any safe exposure threshold, below which there would be no loss of IQ.   The NTP responded that they found “no obvious threshold” for either total fluoride exposure or water fluoride exposure, referring to a graph in the meta-analysis (NTP’s eFigure 17 reproduced below) showing that as water fluoride concentration increased from 0.0 to 1.5 mg/L there was a steep drop in IQ of about 7 points (expressed as “standardized mean difference” units in the graphs). An external peer-reviewer commented on the size of the IQ loss: “Wow … that is substantial … That’s a big deal.” {p 1060}  The graph uses standardized mean difference (SMD) units where each -1.0 SMD is equivalent to about -15 IQ points.    In the left-hand graph each circle represents a study. Several have mean water fluoride below 1.5 mg/L. The right-hand graph shows the relationship between fluoride concentration and loss of IQ when all the studies are pooled. This analysis, based on many studies, is strong evidence that fluoride is associated with a substantial loss of IQ at levels of exposure common in people drinking artificially fluoridated water, and there is no observable threshold indicating a “safe” dose.   They NTP’s experts further stated that the science showing neurotoxic harm “is a large, consistent and growing database."   Overall, the report provides strong evidence that fluoride is associated with a substantial loss of IQ at levels of exposure common in people drinking fluoridated water.   PLEASE SHARE THE ONLINE PRESS RELEASE VERSION OF THIS BULLETIN WITH LOCAL MEDIA OUTLETS.   Fluoride Action Network North Sutton, New Hampshire info@fluoridealert.org

[EiE]

10 hours ago, PureExistence1 said:

Salaam, i know they add fluoride almost everywhere which there's a BIG court case going on against the EPA due to "forced fluoridation", which thd evidence is coming out that it reduces the IQ in children who's mother's drink fluoridated water, and i know (i can smell it) that in most inner city tap water theres alot of bleach thats supposedly at a safe level,(even though bleach is corosive-i prefer not drink it) and I've heard of pharmaceuticals and birth control meds being detected in the water, but what specifically are you referring to? Something new?

I appreciate you bringing this out because it is true.
What I'm referring about is a recent chemical spill in Philadelphia tap water, based on what I could gather from several sources.

Then you also have the East Palestine train derailment which will impact their access to clean water, food, and clean air.

[Quran313]

US tap water is the lowest quality water. I only use it for washing the dishes. I buy purified water for drinking and cooking.

[Quran313]

Do you drink spring water or purified water? I find spring water heavy. That's why I use purified one. Which one is better?

[Diaz]

3 hours ago, Quran313 said:

US tap water is not good. Do you drink spring water or purified water? I find spring water heavy. That's why I use purified one. Which one is better? Is there any other type which is healthier

Tap water is not good all over the world (I think), not only USA. In the place where I live, tap water can cause kidney failure. We drink only purified water. 

[Haji 2003]

2 hours ago, Diaz said:

Tap water is not good all over the world (I think), not only USA. In the place where I live, tap water can cause kidney failure. We drink only purified water. 

 

But ...

 

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Plastic contamination is rampant in bottled water. That was the unsettling conclusion of a study published last year in Frontiers in Chemistry that analyzed samples taken from 259 bottled waters sold in several countries and found that 93% of them contained “microplastic” synthetic polymer particles.

https://time.com/5581326/plastic-particles-in-bottled-water/

[Diaz]

19 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

 

But ...

 

https://time.com/5581326/plastic-particles-in-bottled-water/

I meant filtered water not purified water. 

[Cool]

20 hours ago, PureExistence1 said:

and i know (i can smell it) that in most inner city tap water theres alot of bleach thats supposedly at a safe level,(even though bleach is corosive-i prefer not drink it)

Salam!!

Sister bleach itself is a chlorine donor. I think what you are smelling is chlorine actually which is an oxidizing biocide used to kill harmful bacteria & viruses in drinking water. 

There is a good alternate to chorination and that is called ozonation, the reaction between ozone & water do not produce anything new in water and ozone itself is an excellent biocide. Another alternate is U.V light but it is not effective.

[PureExistence1]

1 hour ago, Cool said:

Salam!!

Sister bleach itself is a chlorine donor. I think what you are smelling is chlorine actually which is an oxidizing biocide used to kill harmful bacteria & viruses in drinking water. 

There is a good alternate to chorination and that is called ozonation, the reaction between ozone & water do not produce anything new in water and ozone itself is an excellent biocide. Another alternate is U.V light but it is not effective.

Salaam brother, im not a scientists, but i pulled this from my local water districts site..still makes me sketched. 

Do I need to take special precautions if I need water for an aquarium or a kidney dialysis machine?

Yes. In order to comply with USEPA and California Department of Health Services regulations, SJW uses disinfectants such as chlorine or chloramine. These disinfectants must be removed before the water can be used in aquariums or kidney dialysis machines. Please consult your doctor or tropical fish store for guidance.

[Cool]

4 minutes ago, PureExistence1 said:

Do I need to take special precautions if I need water for an aquarium or a kidney dialysis machine?

Yes, you need to be careful because chlorine would kill the total coliforms as well as bacteria, e-coli and may damage the aquarium life and even fish. 

Chlorine would also damage the reverse osmosis membranes which separate the salts from water, these membranes are used for producing ultra-pure water in dialysis machines. 

You need an activated carbon filter to remove the chlorine residuals or you can also choose to use SMBS (sodium meta bisulfite) for dechlorination. 

[PureExistence1]

1 hour ago, Cool said:

Yes, you need to be careful because chlorine would kill the total coliforms as well as bacteria, e-coli and may damage the aquarium life and even fish. 

Chlorine would also damage the reverse osmosis membranes which separate the salts from water, these membranes are used for producing ultra-pure water in dialysis machines. 

You need an activated carbon filter to remove the chlorine residuals or you can also choose to use SMBS (sodium meta bisulfite) for dechlorination. 

Yes were using a screw on faucet type activated filter and it really does decrease the chlorine smell.

[PureExistence1]

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/philadelphia-delaware-river-toxic-chemical-spill-cd/

 

And to make things a lil more interesting...

[EiE]

It's sad that the shiekhs, ayatullahs, and their inner expert circles don't bring any of this up. (to my knowledge this hasn't happened)
Yet, if pig meat is accidentally combined with beef, the entire community will be outraged.
Now tell me which one is significantly more harmful.

are they practising the deen islam or the religion islam?.......

Edited March 29 by EiE

[notme]

On 3/28/2023 at 2:08 AM, Quran313 said:

o you drink spring water or purified water? I find spring water heavy. That's why I use purified one. Which one is better?

Former civil engineer here.  

Bottled water sold in the United States is held to less rigid quality standards than tap water.  It is designed to taste good so consumers will buy it, but the tap water is actually cleaner and safer in almost all cases. In many cases, bottled water is just tap water put into bottles and given a pretty label with pictures of nature to make the consumer feel good about it.  

Some but not all well water is clean and safe to drink. If you have a well, get your water tested regularly. The safety of your local water is specific to your location.  Most water treatment facilities do not treat for pharmaceuticals or industrial pollutants.  

Your best choice would be to buy a high quality water filter for home use, but even that won't remove pharmaceuticals or industrial pollutants.  

Long-term best solution would be to advocate for stricter water quality controls.