Advanced Member Simple thinking Posted March 22 Advanced Member Report Share Posted March 22 salam alaikum I've heard that Ahlul Bayt AS teaches angels and prophets, but I haven't seen or read anything to support that, but I'm a layman, so I haven't read much. Has anyone here seen Hadiths on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Muslim2010 Posted March 23 Veteran Member Report Share Posted March 23 (edited) 22 hours ago, Simple thinking said: salam alaikum I've heard that Ahlul Bayt AS teaches angels and prophets, but I haven't seen or read anything to support that, but I'm a layman, so I haven't read much. Has anyone here seen Hadiths on this? The following is taken from the Shiite Creed by Sheikh Saduq RA, about the prophets and angels https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-creed-shaykh-saduq/concerning-prophets-apostles-imams-and-angels The following is the link of Book Hayat ul Quloob by Majlisi, that mentions the life of prophets: https://www.al-islam.org/hayat-al-qulub-vol-1-allamah-muhammad-baqir-al-majlisi/aim-sending-prophets-their-miracles The following hadith also describes the charateristcis of the prophets : Al kafi, vol 1, Part 4, Chapter 2 The Categories of the Prophets, the Messengers and the Imams ((عليه السلام).) H 417, Ch. 2, h 1 Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from abu Yahya al-Wasiti from Hisham ibn Salim and Durust ibn abu Mansur from him the following. "Abu ‘Abdallah ((عليه السلام).) has said that the prophets and the messengers are of four categories. There were prophets who were given Divine news in their souls just for their own-selves and for no one else. There were also prophets who were given Divine news in their dreams and would hear the voice but would not see anyone when awake and they were not sent to other people with such news. They had to follow and Imam just as it happened with Lot who followed Abraham.. There were prophets who would experience in their dreams, hear the voice and see the angel and were sent to a group of people small or large like Jonas (we sent him to a hundred thousand people or a few more). The Imam said that there were thirty thousand more people lead by an Imam. Those who saw in their dreams heard the voice and saw the angel when awake and were also Imams like ’Ulul ‘Azm ones, such as Abraham were prophets but not Imams until Allah said, "I want to appoint you as the Imam for people." He said, "Also please from my descendents, to which He said, ‘My covenant does not go to the unjust ones, those who have worshipped idols or statues will not become Imams." Edited March 23 by Muslim2010 Ashvazdanghe and Cool 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member علوي Posted April 9 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 9 On 3/23/2023 at 6:44 AM, Simple thinking said: salam alaikum I've heard that Ahlul Bayt AS teaches angels and prophets, but I haven't seen or read anything to support that, but I'm a layman, so I haven't read much. Has anyone here seen Hadiths on this? Walaikom assalam There is a hadeeth in the book "Al-Wilayat al-Takweeneeyah li Aal Muhammad (A)" by Sayyed Ali Aashour. The hadeeth is below. Quote وروى صاحب بستان الكرامة ان النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله) كان جالسا وعنده جبرائيل فدخل علي (عليه السلام) فقام له جبرائيل (عليه السلام) !فقال النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله): أتقوم لهذا الفتى .فقال له (عليه السلام): نعم انه له علي حق التعليم فقال النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله): كيف ذلك التعليم يا جبرائيل؟ فقال: لما خلقني الله تعالى سألني من أنت وما أسمك ومن أنا وما اسمي؟ فتحيرت في الجواب وبقيت ساكتا، ثم حضر هذا الشاب في عالم الأنوار وعلمني الجواب، فقال: قل أنت ربي الجليل واسمك الجليل، وأنا العبد الذليل واسمي جبرائيل. ولهذا قمت له وعظمته " (1). Translation: Quote The author of Bustan al-Karamah narrated that the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) was sitting with Jibraeel. Then Ali (عليه السلام) entered and Jibraeel (عليه السلام) stood for him. So the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) said, 'Do you stand for this young man?!' Then he [i.e. Jibraeel] (عليه السلام) said to him, 'Yes, because Ali has the right of the teacher.' Then the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) said, 'How is he your teacher, O Jibraeel?' Then he said, 'When Allah the Exalted created me, He asked me, "Who are you and what is your name, and who am I and what is My Name?" I was confused about the answer and I stayed silent. Then this young man came in the world of lights and taught me the answer; so he said, "Say: 'You are my Majestic Lord and Your name is the Majestic, and I am your humble slave and my name is Jibraeel.'" And this is why I stood for him and his greatness.' Source: الولاية التكوينية لآل محمد (ع) - السيد علي عاشور - الصفحة ١٣١ (This hadeeth narrated by Sahib Bustan al-Karamah is also found in the book Haqeeqat 'Ilm Aal Muhammad (A) and Mustadrak Safeenat al-Bihar) Muslim2010 and Simple thinking 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Cool Posted April 9 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 9 On 3/23/2023 at 12:44 AM, Simple thinking said: Has anyone here seen Hadiths on this? Salam!! There is a hadith in bihar al-anwaar in which Imam (عليه السلام) said this in response to a question ("where were you before God created the heaven & earth?) قال عليه السلام: كنا أنوارا حول العرش نسبح الله ونقدسه حتى خلق الله سبحانه الملائكة فقال لهم: سبحوا، فقالوا: يا ربنا لا علم لنا، فقال لنا: سبحوا، فسبحنا فسبحت الملائكة بتسبيحنا http://shiaonlinelibrary.com/الكتب/1456_بحار-الأنوار-العلامة-المجلسي-ج-٢٥/الصفحة_23 So the precise answer to your query lies in the phrase فسبحنا فسبحت الملائكة Wassalam! Ashvazdanghe, علوي and Muslim2010 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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