Shia Hadith Regarding Al-Rida (عليه السلام).

[Simple thinking]

Salam Alaikum

Shia Hadith Reference;  uyun akhbar ridha v.3p.191

I think the same narration is also found in Al-Kafi as well. 

 

Nawasib presented me with this Hadith. It is about Imam Al-Rida (عليه السلام). I'm not sure how to explain it, but one thing I heard was that it was related to the death of the Al-Rida (عليه السلام). Another thing I've heard is that it happened when Imam Al-Rida (عليه السلام) was a baby, but I'm hoping that someone can give me a proper explanation for this narration.

[Muslim2010]

On 3/7/2023 at 10:21 PM, Simple thinking said:

Salam Alaikum

Shia Hadith Reference;  uyun akhbar ridha v.3p.191

I think the same narration is also found in Al-Kafi as well. 

Nawasib presented me with this Hadith. It is about Imam Al-Rida (عليه السلام). I'm not sure how to explain it, but one thing I heard was that it was related to the death of the Al-Rida (عليه السلام). Another thing I've heard is that it happened when Imam Al-Rida (عليه السلام) was a baby, but I'm hoping that someone can give me a proper explanation for this narration.

Dear member of SC, the reference of hadith provided by your post does not seem correct as the book Uyon e Akhbar Reza, English and Urdu translation do not have the vol 3, It consists of two volumes only. 

if you can bring the text of the said hadith then the knowledgeable members at SC may be able to review it and post the response accordingly.

wasalam

[Simple thinking]

On 3/8/2023 at 1:41 PM, Muslim2010 said:

Dear member of SC, the reference of hadith provided by your post does not seem correct as the book Uyon e Akhbar Reza, English and Urdu translation do not have the vol 3, It consists of two volumes only. 

if you can bring the text of the said hadith then the knowledgeable members at SC may be able to review it and post the response accordingly.

wasalam

Kashf Al Ghummah pg 462 ch3

Title: "Know the Imams (as)" 

This is the Hadith; the nawasib are trying to make some very disturbing claims about it; they appear to have extremely impure minds, but insha Allah someone can look at it and provide a clear explanation.

 

[Simple thinking]

1 hour ago, Simple thinking said:

Kashf Al Ghummah pg 462 ch3

Title: "Know the Imams (as)" 

This is the Hadith; the nawasib are trying to make some very disturbing claims about it; they appear to have extremely impure minds, but insha Allah someone can look at it and provide a clear explanation.

 

Kashf Al Ghumma vol 3 p 121

[Muslim2010]

6 hours ago, Simple thinking said:

Kashf Al Ghumma vol 3 p 121

The following is the link for the mentioned page in Arabic.

كشف الغمة - ابن أبي الفتح الإربلي - ج ٣ - الصفحة ١٢١ (shiaonlinelibrary.com)

Kashf al-ghumma fī maʿrifat al-aʾimma (Arabic: کشفُ الغُمَّة فی مَعرِفَةِ الأئمّة, lit. lifting the hardship in knowing the Imams) is an Arabic book by Baha' al-Din 'Ali b. 'Isa al-Irbili (d. 692/1293), one of Shi'a scholars in the seventh/thirteenth century. This book includes biographies, virtues and miracles of the Fourteen Infallibles (a) and is organized into two sections.

Kashf al-ghumma fi ma'rifat al-a'imma (book) - wikishia

This contains the hadith from both sunni and shia sources and all the hadith are not authentic. It does have daeef / weak narrations in it.

I am not native arabic speaker so some one more knowledgeable can give the English translation for the quoted hadith.

@Ashvazdanghe  @Cool

wasalam

 

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 3/7/2023 at 8:51 PM, Simple thinking said:

Nawasib presented me with this Hadith. It is about Imam Al-Rida (عليه السلام). I'm not sure how to explain it, but one thing I heard was that it was related to the death of the Al-Rida (عليه السلام). Another thing I've heard is that it happened when Imam Al-Rida (عليه السلام) was a baby, but I'm hoping that someone can give me a proper explanation for this narration.

Salam this is about after martyrdom of Imam Reza (عليه السلام) which his son Imam Jawad (عليه السلام) miraculously has came from Medina to city of Tus to prepare blessed body of Imam Reza (عليه السلام) for burial which it has been narrated by Abu l-Salt al-Hirawi which is not a hadith from Imam but on the other hand a report from Abu l-Salt al-Hirawi for proving Imamate of Imam Jawad (عليه السلام) .

As a Companion of Imam al-Jawad (a)

There is no doubt that Abu l-Salt met Imam al-Jawad (a), since when Imam al-Rida (a) was in his deathbed, Imam al-Jawad (a) went from Medina to Tus and a conversation occurred between Imam al-Jawad (a) and Abu l-Salt. Two meetings between the two are reported after the martyrdom of Imam al-Rida (a): one when Imam al-Jawad (a) said Funeral Prayer for his father, Imam al-Rida (a), and the other when Abu l-Salt was imprisoned at the command of al-Ma'mun and was released from the prison with a miracle by Imam al-Jawad (a) and his miraculous entrance in the prison.^[12]

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His best-known title, "Hirawi", referred to by Shi'as and Sunnis, is an attribution to Herat, the place where his ancestors lived.^[3] He was also known as "Qurashi", "'Abshami", "Nishaburi", "Basri", and "Khurasani".

Reliability and People who Transmitted his Hadiths

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Abu l-Salt al-Hirawi is considered as reliable by all Shiite scholars of rijal. Among Sunnis, many scholars such as Yahya b. Mu'in, 'Ijli and Ibn Shahin have considered him as reliable,^[16] while other scholars, such as Jawzajani, Nisa'i, Abu Hatam al-Razi, 'Aqili, ibn Habban, ibn 'Adi, and Darqutni, held that he was unreliable.^[17]

https://en.wikishia.net/view/Abu_l-Salt_al-Hirawi

Blessed Child

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Imam al-Jawad (a) was born in last years of Imam al-Rida's (a) life. They have said that before his birth, Imam al-Rida (a) had no children^[10] and some enemies spread this rumor that Imam al-Rida (a) is not going to leave any lineage after himself and the chain of imamate will be broken. According to narrative sources, when Imam al-Jawad (a) was born and they brought him to his father; Imam al-Rida (a) said, "This is a child, more blessed than him is not born for our followers."^[11] Also, a report narrated by Ibn Asbat and 'Ubbad b. Isma'il said, "We were at the presence of Imam al-Rida (a) that they brought Abu Ja'far (Imam al-Jawad (a)). We asked, 'Is this that blessed child?' Imam al-Rida (a) said, 'This is the child, no more blessed than him is ever born."^[12]

https://en.wikishia.net/view/Imam_Muhammad_b._Ali_al-Jawad_(a)

[Ashvazdanghe]

Miracles of Imam al-Jawad ((عليه السلام).)

7 hours ago, Simple thinking said:

Kashf Al Ghumma vol 3 p 121

The night before Imam’s martyrdom, Imam told to one of his best companions about everything that will happen the day after. Imam Reza mentioned about his martyrdom and told him that just a Divine Leader can wash a Divine Leader’s body, in fact the next Imam should perform the ceremonial burial wash of the previous Imam.

Aba Salt was told before, that Imam Reza’s son, Jawad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) is the next Imam but Jawad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) was in Medina that time, while Imam Reza was in Tous in Iran.

 According to Aba Salt narrations: “I saw Imam Reza came backto house after he had met al-Ma’mun. He asked me to lock the doors, then He laid down. Suddenly I saw a beautiful youth in white as he was closing to the Imam Reza’s room. I asked: “who are you? How could you come in through the locked doors?” he replied: ‘Aba Salt! I am Jawad (Imam Reza’s son) and who (God) took me from Medina to here, he made me passed through the locked doors’. Then he entered to the Imam’s room. Imam Reza ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) saw him and hold him in his arms eagerly. Then whispered some secrets in his son’s ear then I saw he is dying in the arms of his son.

https://twelft-imam.blog.ir/2019/01/8th-Imam-Reza((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم))

Miracle 3

After the martyrdom of Imam Reza ((عليه السلام).), Momoon called the Imam's servant, Abu Salt Harawi and demanded from him the "DUA" that the Imam had taught him to read near the grave where fishes had appeared at the time of Imam's burial. Abu Salt could not remember the DUA.

Mamoon sent Abu Salt to prison and vowed to keep him there as long as he did not remember the DUA. Then one night Imam Taqi ((عليه السلام).) appeared in the prison and he set Abu Salt free and promised him that Mamoon would never see him again and would not, in anyway, cause harm to him. Abu Salt never again saw Mamoon and was never bothered by Mamoon or his men ever since.

https://en.rafed.net/article/miracles-of-imam-al-jawad-as-

Following the martyrdom of Imam al-Riḍā in 204 AH, Maʾmūn left Marv for Baghdad and repeated his duplicitous policy vis-à-vis the Imam’s son. He wanted to have him under control and so the Ninth Imam was compelled to leave Medina for Baghdad. The Imam’s arrival in Baghdad coincided with the convoy of Maʾmūn traveling in Baghdad street. All the children who were playing in the street fled as Maʾmūn’s convoy approached, but someone was still there. Maʾmūn was surprised. He got off his howdah and went to the child.

Maʾmūn asked the child: Why didn’t you run away like others?

The child replied: Your way was not narrow and I have done no wrongdoing.

Maʾmūn: What’s your name?

The child: I am the son of ʿAlī b. Mūsā al-Riḍā

Maʾmūn: You are worthy of being his son. (Biḥār al-Anwār)

http://shiastudies.com/en/10751/short-history-imam-al-jawad-s/

[Ashvazdanghe]

Miracles of Imam al-Jawad ((عليه السلام).)

7 hours ago, Simple thinking said:

Kashf Al Ghumma vol 3 p 121

The night before Imam’s martyrdom, Imam told to one of his best companions about everything that will happen the day after. Imam Reza mentioned about his martyrdom and told him that just a Divine Leader can wash a Divine Leader’s body, in fact the next Imam should perform the ceremonial burial wash of the previous Imam.

Aba Salt was told before, that Imam Reza’s son, Jawad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) is the next Imam but Jawad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) was in Medina that time, while Imam Reza was in Tous in Iran.

 According to Aba Salt narrations: “I saw Imam Reza came backto house after he had met al-Ma’mun. He asked me to lock the doors, then He laid down. Suddenly I saw a beautiful youth in white as he was closing to the Imam Reza’s room. I asked: “who are you? How could you come in through the locked doors?” he replied: ‘Aba Salt! I am Jawad (Imam Reza’s son) and who (God) took me from Medina to here, he made me passed through the locked doors’. Then he entered to the Imam’s room. Imam Reza ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) saw him and hold him in his arms eagerly. Then whispered some secrets in his son’s ear then I saw he is dying in the arms of his son.

https://twelft-imam.blog.ir/2019/01/8th-Imam-Reza((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم))

Miracle 3

After the martyrdom of Imam Reza ((عليه السلام).), Momoon called the Imam's servant, Abu Salt Harawi and demanded from him the "DUA" that the Imam had taught him to read near the grave where fishes had appeared at the time of Imam's burial. Abu Salt could not remember the DUA.

Mamoon sent Abu Salt to prison and vowed to keep him there as long as he did not remember the DUA. Then one night Imam Taqi ((عليه السلام).) appeared in the prison and he set Abu Salt free and promised him that Mamoon would never see him again and would not, in anyway, cause harm to him. Abu Salt never again saw Mamoon and was never bothered by Mamoon or his men ever since.

https://en.rafed.net/article/miracles-of-imam-al-jawad-as-

Following the martyrdom of Imam al-Riḍā in 204 AH, Maʾmūn left Marv for Baghdad and repeated his duplicitous policy vis-à-vis the Imam’s son. He wanted to have him under control and so the Ninth Imam was compelled to leave Medina for Baghdad. The Imam’s arrival in Baghdad coincided with the convoy of Maʾmūn traveling in Baghdad street. All the children who were playing in the street fled as Maʾmūn’s convoy approached, but someone was still there. Maʾmūn was surprised. He got off his howdah and went to the child.

Maʾmūn asked the child: Why didn’t you run away like others?

The child replied: Your way was not narrow and I have done no wrongdoing.

Maʾmūn: What’s your name?

The child: I am the son of ʿAlī b. Mūsā al-Riḍā

Maʾmūn: You are worthy of being his son. (Biḥār al-Anwār)

http://shiastudies.com/en/10751/short-history-imam-al-jawad-s/

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 3/7/2023 at 8:51 PM, Simple thinking said:

Shia Hadith Reference;  uyun akhbar ridha v.3p.191

It's from uyun-akhbar-ar-ridha-volume-2 p 242

1 hour ago, Muslim2010 said:

The following is the link for the mentioned page in Arabic.

كشف الغمة - ابن أبي الفتح الإربلي - ج ٣ - الصفحة ١٢١ (shiaonlinelibrary.com)

Kashf al-ghumma fī maʿrifat al-aʾimma (Arabic: کشفُ الغُمَّة فی مَعرِفَةِ الأئمّة, lit. lifting the hardship in knowing the Imams) is an Arabic book by Baha' al-Din 'Ali b. 'Isa al-Irbili (d. 692/1293), one of Shi'a scholars in the seventh/thirteenth century. This book includes biographies, virtues and miracles of the Fourteen Infallibles (a) and is organized into two sections.

Kashf al-ghumma fi ma'rifat al-a'imma (book) - wikishia

Chapter 63: On What Abu Salt Al-Harawi Has Narrated About Ar-Ridha’ Being Martyred With Poisoned Grapes

Aba Salt continued, “When the morning came, Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) put on his clothes and sat down, waiting in his prayer niche. Al-Ma’mun’s servant entered after a while and said, ‘The Commander of the Faithful (Al-Ma’mun) has called you in.’ Then Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) put on his shoes and cloak. He stood up and went. I followed Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) until he went to Al-Ma’mun. There was a dish of grapes in front of Al-Ma’mun and several dishes of fruit, too. There was a bunch of partially eaten grapes in his hand. There were still some grapes left on it. Once Al-Ma’mun saw Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).), he leaped towards him and hugged him. He kissed his forehead and had him sit down next to himself. Then he offered Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) the bunch of grapes that he was holding in his hands and said, ‘O son of God’s Prophet! Have you ever seen any better grapes?’ Then Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) told him, ‘It often happens that they are good grapes as if they are from Heaven.’ Then Al-Ma’mun said, ‘Have some.’ Then Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) told him, ‘Excuse me from eating them.’ Then he said, ‘You must eat. Why don’t you eat? Perhaps you are suspicious of me.’ Then Al-Ma’mun picked up the bunch of grapes, had a few grapes and then offered the bunch to Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).). Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) ate three grapes, put down the bunch and stood up. Al-Ma’mun asked him, ‘Where are you going?’ He ((عليه السلام).) said, ‘I am going to where you sent me.’ Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) pulled his cloak over his head and left.”

 

1 hour ago, Muslim2010 said:

The following is the link for the mentioned page in Arabic.

كشف الغمة - ابن أبي الفتح الإربلي - ج ٣ - الصفحة ١٢١ (shiaonlinelibrary.com)

Aba Salt added, “I did not talk to Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) until he entered the house and said, ‘Shut the doors.’ They shut the doors. Then Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) laid in bed. I stayed in the yard for a while in a sad and depressed state. Then I saw a handsome young man, who was the closest-looking person to Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) I have ever seen, enter the house. I rushed ahead and asked him, ‘Sir! The doors are closed. How did you get in?’ He ((عليه السلام).) answered, ‘He (God) who passed me through closed doors brought me here from Medina.’ I asked, ‘Who are you?’ He ((عليه السلام).) replied, ‘I am the Proof of God for you. O Aba Salt! I am Muhammad ibn Ali (Imam ar-Ridha’’s son)’ Then he ((عليه السلام).) went to his father ((عليه السلام).). He ((عليه السلام).) entered the room and asked me to go in with him. When Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) saw him, he leaped towards him. Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) hugged him and put his hands over his shoulders. Then Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) kissed him on the forehead and went back to his couch with him. Muhammad ibn Ali ((عليه السلام).) went over to him, kissed him and quietly told him things which I could not hear. However, I could see some foam on Ar-Ridha’’s ((عليه السلام).) lips that was even whiter than snow. Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) wiped it off with his tongue.

قَالَ أَبُو الصَّلْتِ فَلَمَّا أَصْبَحْنَا مِنَ الْغَدِ لَبِسَ ثِيَابَهُ وَجَلَسَ فَجَعَلَ فِي مِحْرَابِهِ يَنْتَظِرُ فَبَيْنَا هُوَ كَذَلِكَ إِذْ دَخَلَ عَلَيْهِ غُلامُ الْمَأْمُونِ فَقَالَ لَهُ أَجِبْ أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ فَلَبِسَ نَعْلَهُ وَرِدَاءَهُ وَقَامَ وَمَشَى وَأَنَا أَتَّبِعُهُ حَتَّى دَخَلَ عَلَى الْمَأْمُونِ وَبَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ طَبَقٌ عَلَيْهِ عِنَبٌ وَأَطْبَاقُ فَاكِهَةٍ وَبِيَدِهِ عُنْقُودُ عِنَبٍ قَدْ أَكَلَ بَعْضَهُ وَبَقِيَ بَعْضُهُ فَلَمَّا أَبْصَرَ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ وَثَبَ إِلَيْهِ فَعَانَقَهُ وَقَبَّلَ مَا بَيْنَ عَيْنَيْهِ وَأَجْلَسَهُ مَعَهُ ثُمَّ نَاوَلَهُ الْعُنْقُودَ وَقَالَ يَا ابْنَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ مَا رَأَيْتُ عِنَباً أَحْسَنَ مِنْ هَذَا فَقَالَ لَهُ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ رُبَّمَا كَانَ عِنَباً حَسَناً يَكُونُ مِنَ الْجَنَّةِ فَقَالَ لَهُ كُلْ مِنْهُ فَقَالَ لَهُ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ تُعْفِينِي عَنْهُ فَقَالَ لا بُدَّ مِنْ ذَلِكَ وَمَا يَمْنَعُكَ مِنْهُ لَعَلَّكَ تَتَّهِمُنَا بِشَيْ‏ءٍ فَتَنَاوَلَ الْعُنْقُودَ فَأَكَلَ مِنْهُ ثُمَّ نَاوَلَهُ فَأَكَلَ مِنْهُ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ ثَلاثَ حَبَّاتٍ ثُمَّ رَمَى بِهِ وَقَامَ فَقَالَ الْمَأْمُونُ إِلَى أَيْنَ فَقَالَ إِلَى حَيْثُ وَجَّهْتَنِي وَخَرَجَ مُغَطَّى الرَّأْسِ فَلَمْ أُكَلِّمْهُ حَتَّى دَخَلَ الدَّارَ فَأَمَرَ أَنْ يُغْلَقَ الْبَابُ فَغُلِقَ ثُمَّ نَامَ عَلَى فِرَاشِهِ وَمَكَثْتُ وَاقِفاً فِي صَحْنِ الدَّارِ مَهْمُوماً مَحْزُوناً فَبَيْنَا أَنَا كَذَلِكَ إِذْ دَخَلَ عَلَيَّ شَابٌّ حَسَنُ الْوَجْهِ قَطَطُ الشَّعْرِ أَشْبَهُ النَّاسِ بِالرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ فَبَادَرْتُ إِلَيْهِ وَقُلْتُ لَهُ مِنْ أَيْنَ دَخَلْتَ وَالْبَابُ مُغْلَقٌ فَقَالَ الَّذِي جَاءَ بِي مِنَ الْمَدِينَةِ فِي هَذَا الْوَقْتِ هُوَ الَّذِي أَدْخَلَنِي الدَّارَ وَالْبَابُ مُغْلَقٌ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ وَمَنْ أَنْتَ فَقَالَ لِي أَنَا حُجَّةُ اللَّهِ عَلَيْكَ يَا أَبَا الصَّلْتِ أَنَا مُحَمَّد بْنُ عَلِيٍّ ثُمَّ مَضَى نَحْوَأَبِيهِ‏ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ فَدَخَلَ وَأَمَرَنِي بِالدُّخُولِ مَعَهُ فَلَمَّا نَظَرَ إِلَيْهِ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ وَثَبَ إِلَيْهِ فَعَانَقَهُ وَضَمَّهُ إِلَى صَدْرِهِ وَقَبَّلَ مَا بَيْنَ عَيْنَيْهِ ثُمَّ سَحَبَهُ سَحْباً فِي فِرَاشِهِ وَأَكَبَّ عَلَيْهِ مُحَمَّد بْنُ عَلِيٍ‏ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ يُقَبِّلُهُ وَيُسَارُّهُ بِشَيْ‏ءٍ لَمْ أَفْهَمْهُ وَرَأَيْتُ فِي شَفَتَيِ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ زُبْداً أَشَدَّ بَيَاضاً مِنَ الثَّلْجِ وَرَأَيْتُ أَبَا جَعْفَرٍ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ يَلْحَسُهُ بِلِسَانِهِ.

Then Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) placed his hand within his attire over his heart and brought out something like a sparrow. Then Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) swallowed it. Then Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) passed away. Then Abu Ja’far said, ‘O Aba Salt! Stand up. Go and bring me water and the wash basin from the cabinet.’ I answered, ‘There is no wash basin in the cabinet and there is no water there either.” However, Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) said, ‘Go and do what I ordered you to do.’ I went to the cabinet, and saw that both water and the wash basin were available there. I brought them out. Then I tied up my robe to my waist and took off my footwear to get ready to wash Imam Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).). But Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) told me, O Aba Salt! Move aside. There is someone else here who will assist me.’’ Then Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) performed the ceremonial burial ablutions for Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) and told me, Go to the cabinet and bring me the basket in which there is a shroud and embalmment.’ I went to the cabinet. There I saw a basket which I had never seen before. I picked it up and brought it to him. Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) shrouded the Imam ((عليه السلام).) and prayed for him. Then he ((عليه السلام).) told me, ‘Bring me that coffin.’ Then I asked, ‘Should I go to a carpenter and have him make a coffin?’ Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) said, ‘No. Go to the cabinet. There is a coffin there.’ I went to the cabinet and found that there was a coffin there which I had never seen before. I picked it up and brought it to him.

Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) lifted Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) after praying for him and placed him in the coffin. He put Ar-Ridha’’s ((عليه السلام).) feet side by side and said two units of prayers. Then before finishing his prayers the ceiling of the room was rent asunder and the coffin was flown out of the room from the ceiling. Then I said, ‘O son of the Prophet of God (Aba Ja’far)! Now Al-Ma’mun will come here and demand Ar-Ridha’ ((عليه السلام).) from us. What should we do?’ Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) said, ‘O Aba Salt! Be quiet! The body will return. God will unite the body and the spirit together of any Prophet who dies in the East and any of his Trustees who die in the West.’ Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) had not finished talking when the ceiling was again rent asunder, and the coffin and the body descended. Then Aba Ja’far Muhammad ibn Ali ((عليه السلام).) stood up, brought the corpse out of the coffin and placed it in bed as if it had neither been washed nor shrouded.

Then Aba Ja’far ((عليه السلام).) said to me, ‘O Aba Salt! Stand up and open the door for Al-Ma’mun.’’ Then I opened the door. Al-Ma’mun and his servants were standing at the door. He entered while he was in a sad state and crying. He tore his shirt and hit himself on the head.

ثُمَّ أَدْخَلَ يَدَهُ بَيْنَ ثَوْبَيْهِ وَصَدْرِهِ فَاسْتَخْرَجَ مِنْهُ شَيْئاً شَبِيهاً بِالْعُصْفُورِ فَابْتَلَعَهُ أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ وَمَضَى الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ فَقَالَ أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ يَا أَبَا الصَّلْتِ قُمِ ائْتِنِي بِالْمُغْتَسَلِ وَالْمَاءِ مِنَ الْخِزَانَةِ فَقُلْتُ مَا فِي الْخِزَانَةِ مُغْتَسَلٌ وَلا مَاءٌ فَقَالَ لِي انْتَهِ إِلَى مَا آمُرُكَ بِهِ فَدَخَلْتُ الْخِزَانَةَ فَإِذَا فِيهَا مُغْتَسَلٌ وَمَاءٌ فَأَخْرَجْتُهُ وَشَمَّرْتُ ثِيَابِي لاغَسِّلَهُ مَعَهُ فَقَالَ لِي تَنَحَّ يَا أَبَا الصَّلْتِ فَإِنَّ لِي مَنْ يُعِينُنِي غَيْرَكَ فَغَسَّلَهُ ثُمَّ قَالَ لِيَ ادْخُلِ الْخِزَانَةَ فَأَخْرِجْ لِيَ السَّفَطَ الَّذِي فِيهِ كَفَنُهُ وَحَنُوطُهُ فَدَخَلْتُ فَإِذَا أَنَا بِسَفَطٍ لَمْ أَرَهُ فِي تِلْكَ الْخِزَانَةِ قَطُّ فَحَمَلْتُهُ إِلَيْهِ فَكَفَّنَهُ وَصَلَّى عَلَيْهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ لِيَ ائْتِنِي بِالتَّابُوتِ فَقُلْتُ أَمْضِي إِلَى النَّجَّارِ حَتَّى يُصْلِحَ التَّابُوتَ قَالَ قُمْ فَإِنَّ فِي الْخِزَانَةِ تَابُوتاً فَدَخَلْتُ الْخِزَانَةَ فَوَجَدْتُ تَابُوتاً لَمْ أَرَهُ قَطُّ فَأَتَيْتُهُ بِهِ فَأَخَذَ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ بَعْدَ مَا صَلَّى عَلَيْهِ فَوَضَعَهُ فِي التَّابُوتِ وَصَفَّ قَدَمَيْهِ وَصَلَّى رَكْعَتَيْنِ لَمْ يَفْرُغْ مِنْهُمَا حَتَّى عَلا التَّابُوتُ فَانْشَقَّ السَّقْفُ فَخَرَجَ مِنْهَا التَّابُوتُ وَمَضَى فَقُلْتُ يَا ابْنَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ السَّاعَةَ يَجِيئُنَا الْمَأْمُونُ وَيُطَالِبُنَا بِالرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ فَمَا نَصْنَعُ فَقَالَ لِيَ اسْكُتْ فَإِنَّهُ سَيَعُودُ يَا أَبَا الصَّلْتِ مَا مِنْ نَبِيٍّ يَمُوتُ بِالْمَشْرِقِ وَيَمُوتُ وَصِيُّهُ بِالْمَغْرِبِ إِلا جَمَعَ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى بَيْنَ أَرْوَاحِهِمَا وَأَجْسَادِهِمَا فَمَا أَتَمَّ الْحَدِيثَ حَتَّى انْشَقَّ السَّقْفُ وَنَزَلَ التَّابُوتُ فَقَامَ‏ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ فَاسْتَخْرَجَ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ مِنَ التَّابُوتِ وَوَضَعَهُ عَلَى فِرَاشِهِ كَأَنَّهُ لَمْ يُغَسَّلْ وَلَمْ يُكَفَّنْ ثُمَّ قَالَ لِي يَا أَبَا الصَّلْتِ قُمْ فَافْتَحِ الْبَابَ لِلْمَأْمُونِ فَفَتَحْتُ الْبَابَ فَإِذَا الْمَأْمُونُ وَالْغِلْمَانُ بِالْبَابِ فَدَخَلَ بَاكِياً حَزِيناً قَدْ شَقَّ جَيْبَهُ وَلَطَمَ رَأْسَهُ.

https://www.al-islam.org/uyun-akhbar-ar-ridha-volume-2-shaykh-saduq/chapter-63-what-abu-salt-al-harawi-has-narrated-about-ar

http://shiaonlinelibrary.com/الكتب/3709_كشف-الغمة-ابن-أبي-الفتح-الإربلي-ج-٣/الصفحة_121#top

https://www.sibtayn.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4777:the-short-history-of-the-holy-shrine-of-imam-reza-as&catid=592&Itemid=677

 

[Cool]

On 3/7/2023 at 10:21 PM, Simple thinking said:

Nawasib presented me with this Hadith. It is about Imam Al-Rida (عليه السلام).

Salam!!

What is the matter actually? In which context nawasib presented you this hadith? 

[Simple thinking]

2 hours ago, Cool said:

Salam!!

What is the matter actually? In which context nawasib presented you this hadith? 

They provided this translation and are desperately trying to convince viewers that this is a homosexual act, etc. Audhubillah

 

“When al-Rida (عليه السلام) saw
him, he embraced him, held
him tightly to his chest, and
kissed his forehead. Then, he
brought him to his bed; and
Muhammad b. 'Ali (عليه السلام) kissed
him and whispered something
to him that I did not
understand. On the lips of al-
Rida (عليه السلام), I saw butter that
was whiter than snow, and I
saw Aba Ja'far [Muhammad
b.
"Ali al-Jawad] lick it with his
tongue. Then, he brought his
hand between his robe and
his chest, took out something
that resembled a bird, and
had Abu Ja far (عليه السلام) swallow it,“

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

17 hours ago, Simple thinking said:

They provided this translation and are desperately trying to convince viewers that this is a homosexual act, etc. Audhubillah

Salam I have been thinking that they have denied a miracle or tried to show it as exaggeration or accusing us to worshiping them anyway Abu Salt described something from a distance because due to order of Imam Jawad (عليه السلام) he has not been close to them which he has limited access so he just expressed what he couldn't understand properly just for providing all details of last breathes of Imam Reza(عليه السلام) although his report doesn't show practicing homosexuality which only ill minded people likewise Nawasib who are interested in homosexuality which many reports of homosexuality have been reported about their leaders since Abbasids era until now.

[Cool]

19 hours ago, Simple thinking said:

They provided this translation and are desperately trying to convince viewers that this is a homosexual act, etc. Audhubillah

You see we have a solid reason to consider them impure than dogs & pigs. That's what nawasibs are.

[Muslim2010]

On 3/19/2023 at 8:53 PM, Simple thinking said:

They provided this translation and are desperately trying to convince viewers that this is a homosexual act, etc. Audhubillah

In response to the text quoted I like to the following hadith  to describe the true introduction of an Imam chosen by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), he is a guided imam and he is not chosen by fallible people like us:

H 523, Ch. 15, h 1, Alkafi Vol 1
Abu Muhammad al-Qasim ibn al-'Ala', may Allah grant him blessings, in a marfu‘ manner (rafa'abu), has narrated from ‘Ad al-'Aziz ibn Muslim the following.
"We had been with al-Rida ((عليه السلام).) at Marw. During an assembly in the central mosque on Friday, we attended the gathering. It was when we had just arrived (in Marw). People spoke and discussed about the issue of Imamat (Leadership with Divine Authority). All the differing opinions among people in this matter came up. I then went to see my leader ((عليه السلام).) and informed him of the people’s controversies over the issue (leadership).
The Imam ((عليه السلام).) smiled and then said the following. "O 'Abd al-'Aziz, people are ignorant and their opinions have mislead and deceived them. Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, did not cause His Holy Prophet to leave this world before completing for him the religion. Allah sent him the Holy Quran in which all things are clearly explained. Allah has explained in the Holy Quran what is lawful and what is unlawful. He has explained totally the limits and the rules
for all issues that people may face in the affairs of life. Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, has said, "We have left nothing without a mention of it in the Book. . . ." (6:38) During the last visit of the Holy Prophet to Makka for pilgrimage towards the end of his life the following verse of the Holy Qauran was sent to him. "On this day I have perfected your religion, completed My favors to you, and have chosen Islam as your religion. . . ." (5:3) The issue of Imamat (leadership) is part of the completion of religion. The Holy Prophet (s.a.) did not leave this world before explaining to his followers the principles of their religion and show them the path clearly, and he left them on a point of a path that faced the direction of the truth. He raised Ali ((عليه السلام).) among them as a flag and Imam (a leader). He did not leave anything that his followers needed without full explanation. Those who think that Allah, the
Most Holy, the Most High, has not completed His religion, they rejected the book of Allah and those who reject the book of Allah they have become expressed unbelievers in it.
"Do they realize the value and the status of the Imamat (leadership) of the ’Umma (the nation) to justify their selection? Imamat (leadership) in fact, is far sublime in values, greatest in position, highest in status, the most exclusive issue in all aspects, the most profound and deep for the intellect of the people to reach and grasp it in their opinions, or to appoint an Imam through their selection. The Imamat (leadership) is that particular distinction which Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, has distinguished Ibrahim, the very close friend (al-Khalil), after Prophethood. This close friendship is the third stage (in the progression of spiritual degrees). It is a virtue with which,He honored him and established his fame. He then said, "Behold! I have made you an Imam for the people". Abraham, the close friend, then out of delight pleaded "Please let it be in my offspring also." Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, said, "My covenant does not go to the unjust ones." (2:124)
Thus, this verse has declared the leadership (Imamat) of all the unjust ones as unlawful till the Day of Judgment and it has established it for those clean and free of evil and injustice. Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, bestowed him more honors in establishing Imamat (leadership) in purified and clean persons of his offspring. "We granted him Isaac and Jacob as a gift and helped both of them to become righteous people (21:72). We appointed them as leaders to guide the people through Our command and sent them revelation to strive for good deeds, worship their Lord, and pay religious tax. Both of them were Our worshiping servants." (21:73)
"So the Imamat (leadership) remained in his offspring inheriting it from each other, generation after generation, until Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, made Prophet Muhammad (s.a.) to inherit it. And He, Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, said, "The nearest people to Abraham, among mankind, are those who followed him, and this Prophet
(Muhammad) and the true believers. God is the Guardian of the true believers." (3:68) So the Imamat belonged to him particularly, and he (s.a.), then, entrusted Imam Ali (((عليه السلام).) with it by the command of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, as He had made it obligatory. It then came to be in his (Ali's) purified and clean of sins offspring, to whom Allah has given knowledge and faith, as in the words of He Who is Most High. "Those who have received knowledge and have faith will say, "By the decree of God, you have remained for the exact period which was mentioned in the Book of God about the Day of Resurrection. This is the Day of Resurrection, but you did not know." (30:56) Imamat (leadership) will remain in the sons of Imam Ali ((عليه السلام).) exclusively, till the Day of Judgment and there will no prophet after Muhammad (s.a.). Wherefrom then have these ignorant people received the right to select Imams? " Imamat (leadership) is, certainly, the position of the prophets, and the inheritance of the successors. Imamat (leadership) indeed, is the representation (khilafa) of Allah and the deputy of the Messenger (s.a.), and the office of Amir al-mu'minin ((عليه السلام).) and the inheritance of Imam al-Hasan and al-Husayn ((عليه السلام).)
"Imamat (leadership) is, in fact, the reins of the religion, the social system of the Muslims. It is best for the world, and honor for the believers. Imamat (Islamic leadership) is Islam's maturing root, and its towering branch. Through the Imam ((عليه السلام).) prayers are complete, Zakat, (charity) is paid, fasting, is maintained, Hajj is performed and Jihad, proper defense is exercised, the wealth of the nation (fay') and charity (sadaqat) are increased, the laws are
enforced and the frontiers are protected and defended.
"The Imam declares as lawful what Allah has done so and prohibits what Allah has prohibited. He enforces the criminal laws of Allah, defends the religion of Allah and he provides guidance with wisdom, good advice and with the topmost strong evidence. "The Imam is like the risen sun that beautifies the world with its light and is in the horizon  above the harm of hands and eyes. The Imam is as the bright moon, the shining lamp, the brilliant light, and the guiding star in the depth of darkness, in the middle of the towns, in the wilderness and the high seas. The Imam is as crystal-clear water to thirst, an indicator of true guidance and the protector against destruction. The Imam is as fire of a lighthouse that provides warmth and guidance for those who seek heat protection against fatalities. Whoever would depart him would perish.
"The Imam (in terms of blessings) is as the rain-bearing cloud, the drenching rainfall, the shining sun, the shadow providing sky, the open fields, the gushing forth spring, as a pond and a garden. The Imam is as a comforting friend, a very kind father, a real brother, a tenderhearted mother of a small child, a refuge for people in disastrous conditions. The Imam is Allah's trustee over His creatures, His authority over His servants, His representative in His lands, the preacher of His cause and the defender of His sanctuary.
"The Imam is clean of sins, free of faults, possesses special knowledge and is distinguished in forbearance. The Imam maintains law and order in religion. He is the might of the Muslims to enrages the hypocrites, and futile to unbelievers. The Imam is the peerless person of his time, no-one can reach even near his rank in virtue and no scholar is comparable to him. No one can become A number of our people has narrated from alternative for him, nor is there anyone similar to him or just like him. His is exclusive in all virtues of which none is acquired or is
sought after, in fact, his virtues are all from bestowed up on him by the source of all virtue, the Generous One.
Who is he that can know all about the Imam, or can select him? To affirm the ability of selection is very far from the truth. Intellects have become confused, understanding has lost the meaning, awareness is frustrated, eyes have become dull and tired, the great ones have become humble, the sagacious ones have become bewildered and people of forbearance have lost patience. The orators have become speechless, the intelligent ones have become ignorant and the poets have become exhausted. The man-of-letter have become helpless, people of eloquence have turned wordless to speak of any of the aspects of his status or a virtue of his virtues and instead have confessed their helplessness in the matter. How can one speak of him in full, or describe him in the real sense or understand anything of his affairs or find an alternative for him sufficient for what he sufficed. There is no such thing and no where such is found. He is like a star away from the reach of those who try to reach, or those who try to describe. Where does the idea of selecting him would then stand in such case? How can then reasons and intellects reach him and where can one find a person like the Imam?
"Would they think that such a person can be found outside the family of the Holy Prophet (s.a.)? Their souls, I swear by Allah, have told them a lie. Falsehood has induced in them evil hopes. Be on your guard against A number of our people has narrated from uphill and crushing battle in which they would slip back to their first foothold. They intend to raise the Imam by their confused, fruitless and faulty intellects and their misleading opinions. It would
do to nothing god except taking them away from the truth. (May Allah be their adversary. Where are they headed.) (Holy Quran 9:30) They have aimed at a difficult task and have spoken something meaningless. They have strayed far away from the truth and have faced huge confusions. They have knowingly ignored the Imam ((عليه السلام).). It is Satan who, has made their deeds to seem attractive to them and has blocked them from reaching the path (of
guidance) when they know it fully. They have turned from the choice that Allah and His Messenger and his family of to accept their own choice. The Holy Quran calls up on them, "Your Lord creates and chooses (to grant
mercy) to whomever He wants. (In matters of guidance) they (unbelievers) do not have the choice to choose whatever they want. God is too exalted to be considered equal to anything else." (28:68) It also says, "The believing men and women must not feel free to do something in their affairs other than that which has been already decided for them by God and His Messenger. One who disobeys God and His Messenger is in plain error. (33:36)
It further says, "What is the matter with you? How could you judge this to be so? (68:36). Do you have a book from which you study (68:37) that tells you to do whatever you want? (68:38). Do you have a covenant with Us which allows you to do whatever you want until the Day of Judgment? (68:39). (Muhammad), ask which of them can guarantee that on the Day of Judgment (68:40). they will receive the same thing that the Muslims will? Do they have any witness to such an agreement? Let them bring out such witness, if they are truthful."(68:41).
Again the Holy Quran says, "Is it that they do not think about the Quran or are their hearts sealed?" (47:24) Or as it says, ". . . their hearts were sealed and they were left with no understanding." (9:87) or like, "Do not be like those who said that they have heard (the Messenger's commands) but do not pay any attention to them (8:21). The most wicked beasts in the sight of God are the deaf and the dumb who have no understanding (8:22). Had they
possessed any virtue, God would certainly have made them hear. Even if God were to make them hear, they would still turn away from (the words of God)." (8:23) or like, "you said that you had listened but you disobeyed.. . ." (2:93) It is the grace from Allah and He gives to whoever He wills. Allah is possesses great generosity.
How would they have the right to choose the Imam ((عليه السلام).)? The Imam ((عليه السلام).) is a scholar that is not ignorant of any thing, a shepherd who does not become, the mine of holiness purity, of worship and restraint from sins and Knowledge and worship. He (enjoys) the blessings of the exclusive prayers of the Messenger of Allah and of being of the progeny of the Holy Lady, al-Batul. There is not question about their genealogical purity. He is of the house of Quraysh and the top most in clan of Hashim and of the family of the Messenger of Allah, enjoying the
happiness of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, is the honor of all nobility. He is of the offspring of ‘Abd al-Manaf. He possesses (a body of) increasing knowledge. He is perfect in forbearance, the only one to qualify for the position of Imamat (leadership). He has full knowledge of the politics, whose obedience is obligatory by the command of Allah. He is appointed for Imamat by the command of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High to give good
advice to the servants of Allah and to protect the religion of Allah.
Allah grants success and support to the prophets and the Imams ((عليه السلام).) through His treasured knowledge and command in a way that is granted to no one else. Thus, their knowledge is above the knowledge of the people of their times as mentioned in the following words of Allah. "Is the one who guides to the Truth a proper guide or one who himself cannot find guidance unless he is guided (by others)? What is wrong with you that you judge (so
unjustly)?" (10:35) and in, "Whoever is given wisdom, certainly, has received much good. . . ."(2:269). Or as about Talut in the following words, "God has chosen him as your ruler and has given him physical power and knowledge. God grants His authority to anyone whom He wants. God is Provident and All-knowing. (2:247) or as He has said about His Prophet ((عليه السلام).), "God has revealed the Book to you, has given you wisdom, and has taught you what you did not know. Certainly God's favor to you has been great." (4:113) He also said about the Imams from the family of the Holy Prophet (s.a.) "Are they jealous of the favors that God has done to some people? We have given to the family of Abraham the Book, Wisdom, and a great Kingdom (4:54). Some have believed, others have disbelieved and tried to prevent people from believing. For these people, only the intense fire of hell is a sufficient
punishment." (4:55)
When Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, chooses a person for the affairs of His servants, He opens his heart for the task, places in it the fountains of wisdom and inspires him with knowledge. He then never becomes tired of answering questions and never becomes confused to miss the right answer. He is infallible, Divinely supported, successful and guarded. He is immune from sins and shortcomings and faults. Allah has granted him this exclusively so that he would serve as the Divine authority over His servant, as a witness over them and this is
grace of Allah that He grant to whoever He wills and Allah’s grace is the greatest.
Can one among the people have such things so they would choose him as the Imam or can their selected person have such distinctions to be preferred over the others? They, swearing to the house of Allah, have transgressed against the truth and have thrown the book of Allah behind their backs as if they do not know. In the book of Allah there is guidance and cure but they have ignored it and have followed their own desires. For this reason Allah has criticized, expressed anger and condemned them in His words as follows.
"Who strays more than one who follows his desires without guidance from God? God does not guide the unjust people." (28:50) .
"The fate of the unbelievers will be to stumble and their deeds will have no virtuous results;" (47:8)
"This act greatly angers God and the believers. Thus does God seal the hearts of every arrogant oppressor." (40:35).
May Allah grant blessings up on Prophet Muhammad and his family and may He grant them peace, a great deal of peace."

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[Ibn Al-Ja'abi]

On 3/19/2023 at 11:53 AM, Simple thinking said:

They provided this translation and are desperately trying to convince viewers that this is a homosexual act, etc. Audhubillah

 

“When al-Rida (عليه السلام) saw
him, he embraced him, held
him tightly to his chest, and
kissed his forehead. Then, he
brought him to his bed; and
Muhammad b. 'Ali (عليه السلام) kissed
him and whispered something
to him that I did not
understand. On the lips of al-
Rida (عليه السلام), I saw butter that
was whiter than snow, and I
saw Aba Ja'far [Muhammad
b.
"Ali al-Jawad] lick it with his
tongue. Then, he brought his
hand between his robe and
his chest, took out something
that resembled a bird, and
had Abu Ja far (عليه السلام) swallow it,“

 

First of all, whoever insinuated this was a homosexual act, wal-3iyadhu billah, has a filthy mind and it is unfortunate for them that's where their mind goes. Secondly, it's funny they'll use this hadith to insinuate the Imams were such, astaghfirullah, when the hadith doesn't say that, but they can't conclude what the hadith actually does say (that Imam al-Jawad was Imam al-Ridha's successor and a hujjatullah). I suppose that would be expecting too much from nawasib. But whoever said that has demonstrated himself to be truly ignorant of the Prophetic Sunnah that was practiced among Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام). This is so widespread it was reported even by the Umayyad fabricator, Abu Hurayrah, cited in al-Bukhari's al-Adab al-Mufrad (and graded Hasan by al-Albani):

جَعَلَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَفْتَحُ فَاهُ فَيُدْخِلُ فَاهُ فِي فِيهِ، ثُمَّ قَالَ‏:‏ اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أُحِبُّهُ، فَأَحْبِبْهُ، وَأَحِبَّ مَنْ يُحِبُّهُ‏.‏

The Prophet (saaw) then opened his mouth and entered his mouth in his, then he said, "O' Allah, I love him so love him, and I love whoever loves him." (Having done, this to Imam al-Hasan (عليه السلام), and when he was older than a baby as well, evidently as Abu Hurayrah narrates this (and it is known he accepted Islam after Khaybar, hence how problematic it is how much he has narrated: أسلم أبو هريرة وعمران بن حصين عام خيبر -- Ibn 'Abd al-Barr). Beyond that, we know Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) did this after the Prophet (saaw). For example, the earliest surviving extant source on Karbala (I have translated this during Muharram and you can read it here--bear in mind it needs revision and commentary as I have better sources and editions now than I did when initially working on it), al-Fudhayl b. al-Zubayr's Tasmiyatu man qutila ma'a al-Husayn (عليه السلام), mentions this account for Hazrat Ali Asghar/Abdullah al-Radhi' (as):

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9. ʿAbd Allāh b. al-Ḥusayn (عليه السلام). His mother was al-Rubāb bt. Imraʾ al-Qays b. ʿAdī b. Aws b. Jābir b. Kaʿb b. Ḥakīm al-Kalbī. Ḥarmalah b. al-Kāhil al-Asadī al-Wālibī killed him. He was born to al-Ḥusayn b. ʿAlī (عليه السلام) during the battle. He was brought before him while he was sitting, and he took him into his lap. He let him suckle on his saliva and named him ʿAbd Allāh. Suddenly, as he was doing this, Ḥarmalah b. al-Kāhil shot the baby with an arrow, butchering him. Al-Ḥusayn took his blood, gathering it, and threw it towards the heavens. Not a single drop returned to the Earth. 

Faḍīl said: Abu al-Ward narrated to me that he heard Abu Jaʿfar say, “If a single drop fell to the earth, divine punishment would surely have been sent down.” He [ʿAbd Allāh] was the one about whom the poet said, 

“A drop of our blood is with [B.] Ghanī / and another is counted and remembered with [B.] Asad.” 

Evidently, it is not what they are insinuating it is on the one hand, and they should be ashamed of themselves that they think so lowly of the Prophet's Sunnah and of the Ahlul Bayt (alayhum al-salam ajma3in). What can one expect of nawasib, though?