Discussion on Shias relationship with Blacks on reddit forum

[Lion of Shia]

I was scrolling past a reddit discussion about Black people whom are muslimsand it turned in to a history debate with slander and views about sunnis from christian blacks,athiest blacks,jewish blacks, and nation of islam and muslim blacks. The debate was mostly about sunni involvement in the black slave trade. But here is one thinga black person said about shias.

 

 

 

LittleJacob2

·28 days ago

 

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3. It’s mainly Sunnis who were responsible for the Arab slave trade and invasions in Africa. Not Muslims or islam in general

Shias who are also Muslims, never invaded Africa, Shias did not play a major role in the Arab slave trade as the both Islamic empires the ummayad empire and Ottoman Empire was dominated and started by the conservatives Sunni elites of Arab world.

Shia Muslims have good relations with the black community and they acknowledge and admit the Arab slave trade and the injustice that were done in black people in the name of Islam.

Besides that shias were also oppressed by both the Ummayad and Ottoman Empire, in Afghanistan Hazara Shias were enslaved by Pashtuns in the hazara revolts in 19th. And many Shias fled to west Africa for asylum when they were persecuted by the ottomans.

[Haji 2003]

4 hours ago, Lion of Shia said:

3. It’s mainly Sunnis who were responsible for the Arab slave trade and invasions in Africa. Not Muslims or islam in general

History leaves legacies. 

The United States of today still bears the scars of its slave-owning past in terms of current racial strife. But we don't see similar in other countries where slave owning happened. 

It's because the scale and barbarity of the American trade was way beyond what happened anywhere else. 

I've previously argued in these forums that the term 'slave' is a very problematic one, since it immediately conjures up an image that may not really be applicable in different situations. Here's one example of how slavery in a Muslim country differed from other locations:

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Unlike genuine chattel slaves in ancient Greece and Rome, in the United States, and in Brazil and Haiti, who were always totally devoid of rights, farm-slaves in rural Hausaland normally enjoyed so many rights (including those of self-ransom) that it is reasonable to ask whether the term "slave" is, in fact, an appropriate translation of the Hausa bawa.

Hill, P., 1976. From slavery to freedom: the case of farm-slavery in Nigerian Hausaland. Comparative Studies in Society and History, 18(3), pp.395-426.