Marriage With Kurds

[Abdilhayy]

I came across a hadith in Kitab al-Kafi that said not to marry Kurds because they're jinns. I asked a friend and they said that it isn't talking about the actual Kurdish race, but rather people who live in caves and in mountains. Like feral people. But what if these people do live like that, but are still pious and believing mu'min, would it still be haram to marry them?

I'm concerned because my wife is Kurdish, and from a village in Kurdistan. And we both want to move to her village. But is it seriously haram that I married her because she's a Kurd?

[Abu_Zahra]

No brother,  of course it isn't haram. I don’t think any scholar ever believed this or ever took this meaning from the hadith, which might not even be authentic. 

[VoidVortex]

On 10/23/2022 at 12:57 PM, Baba Piruz said:

 

I'm concerned because my wife is Kurdish, and from a village in Kurdistan. And we both want to move to her village. But is it seriously haram that I married her because she's a Kurd?

absolutely not, Islam doesn't discriminate between ethnicities or countries. We are judged on piety, not where we came from. 

 

[Abdilhayy]

20 hours ago, Mahdavist said:

No brother,  of course it isn't haram. I don’t think any scholar ever believed this or ever took this meaning from the hadith, which might not even be authentic. 

The term it uses for "Kurd" is "al-Akarad", which some Arabic speaking friends of mine said mean people who live in the mountains, uncivilized.

[Guest guest]

On 10/23/2022 at 6:57 AM, Baba Piruz said:

I'm concerned because my wife is Kurdish, and from a village in Kurdistan. And we both want to move to her village.

Kurdistan is not a country right now. Which area are you concerned about? Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Syria or Armenia?

[Abu_Zahra]

3 hours ago, Baba Piruz said:

The term it uses for "Kurd" is "al-Akarad", which some Arabic speaking friends of mine said mean people who live in the mountains, uncivilized.

I believe I have seen the narration in Al Kafi, and the chain was incomplete.  Furthermore if there are no other instances of it then it would also be khabar wahid (lone narration). 

In short,  I don't think anyone has taken this narration seriously. 

[Abu Hadi]

On 10/23/2022 at 7:57 AM, Baba Piruz said:

I came across a hadith in Kitab al-Kafi that said not to marry Kurds because they're jinns. I asked a friend and they said that it isn't talking about the actual Kurdish race, but rather people who live in caves and in mountains. Like feral people. But what if these people do live like that, but are still pious and believing mu'min, would it still be haram to marry them?

I'm concerned because my wife is Kurdish, and from a village in Kurdistan. And we both want to move to her village. But is it seriously haram that I married her because she's a Kurd?

 

Salam Br. You need to check your sources. Not everything in Al Kafi is authentic. If you think someone is a jinn, ask them to slap you, lol. If you feel their slap, they are not a jinn. Jinn cannot influence a person directly, i.e. thru physical force, only a human being can do that. Jinn can only influence thru the waswas, whispering into the conscious mind. 

Edited October 28, 2022 by Abu Hadi

[islamicmusic]

On 10/27/2022 at 5:20 AM, Guest guest said:

Kurdistan is not a country right now. Which area are you concerned about? Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Syria or Armenia?

Salam. Kurdistan is not a country. Though there is a province in the Islamic Republic called Kurdistan.

On 10/23/2022 at 2:57 PM, Baba Piruz said:

I came across a hadith in Kitab al-Kafi that said not to marry Kurds because they're jinns. I asked a friend and they said that it isn't talking about the actual Kurdish race, but rather people who live in caves and in mountains. Like feral people. But what if these people do live like that, but are still pious and believing mu'min, would it still be haram to marry them?

I'm concerned because my wife is Kurdish, and from a village in Kurdistan. And we both want to move to her village. But is it seriously haram that I married her because she's a Kurd?

Salam. Well, as a person with Kurdish origins and having lived in Kurdish majority cities for 5-6 years, this is hurtful that someone really asks this question.

Anyway. You should know that Kurds have been the most oppressed Muslim nation. And now another oppression is that the enemy is trying to use them and racism card to destabilize the Islamic Republic, Iraq and Syria which are the resistance front. The fact that while 80 % of the Kurds live in Turkey and the enemy tries to use Kurds living in other countries must ring a bell. But, the good news is that, except for the few that fell for secularism and racism (as a bad reaction), Kurds are still devout Muslims and will not be used by the enemy inshaAllah.

Here's Mamusta Muradian (the Kurdish Sunni Imam Jumah of the Iranian Sunni-Kurdish City, Sanandaj, i.e capital of Kurdistan Province) in a reaction to the recent riots in the Islamic Republic, where he says he will be fighting the western backed secularist agents if Imam Khamenei just gives a fatwa allowing him to. And he says he can bring an army to protect the Islamic Republic.

https://www.islamidavet.com/video-iranin-senendec-asavale-sehri-ehlisunnet-cuma-imami-mamoste-muradiyan-eger-veli-yi-emrim-seyyid-ali-hamaney-izin-verirse-islami-kurt-halkinin-degerlerine-saygisizli/

So, you see.. There are secularist guys claiming to be the shia of Imam Mahdi and working for the agenda of the West at one side.. And then there are sunni Kurdish guys like him serving the servants of Imam Mahdi.. I would prefer the latter to the former.. Wouldn't you?

So, please do not judge people by their sect and race. Indeed such things have no importance in Islam. What matters is the morality, truthfulness, commitment of our sister in law and her village-tribe. So, please move to the village. See their hospitality and everything and then decide for yourself. InshaAllah your house is a small example of Islamic Unity. And that way you will help the cause in the village as well. So, live with/amongst them, pray in their congregations, interact with them.. Educate yourself about them and educate them about you/your faith.. People are always worried of the things they don't know. So let them and yourself know through meeting, interacting.

May Allah bless you and your family.

Edited October 28, 2022 by islamicmusic

[Ashvazdanghe]

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