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On 10/1/2022 at 2:15 PM, EasternQibla said:

) that some Shia, on seeing the clouds, shouted "Jan, Ali Jan."

Hi in his books he has talked about Nusayris which has been an infamous ghulat Sect which Wahabists & salafist still call Alawites as  Nusayris for justification of killing Shias in Syria which as sister @Hameedeh said 

29 minutes ago, Hameedeh said:

The Farsi word Jan (pronounced like the name John), means Dear (the one you like, not the animal). 

anyway this slogan & practice completly abandoned between Alawites  in Syria 

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Muhammad b. Nusayr

According to sources of rijal, Muhammad b. Nusayr exhibited deviations which led to his dismissal by Imam al-Hadi (a). The situation continued in the period of Imam al-Hasan al-'Askari (a). His deviations in the period of Imam al-Hasan al-'Askari (a) were mainly concerned with exaggerations about the Imams (a). In the period of the Minor Occultation, the founder of the Nusayriyya claimed that he was a special deputy of Imam al-Mahdi (a). Thus, he claimed that Muhammad b. 'Uthman was the second of the Four Deputies of Imam al-Mahdi (a). This led to his dismissal by the close companions of the Imam (a). After the dismissal, Ibn Nusayr claimed the position of prophethood and then Godhood. He believed in reincarnation and exaggerated about Imam al-Hadi (a) claiming that the Imam (a) was God.

 

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The Views of Contemporary Alawi Scholars about the Alawite Beliefs

Munir Sharif, a contemporary Alawi scholar, has cited a statement by about 80 Alawi scholars in his book (which counts as a significant source about Alevism) in which the beliefs of the Alawites are mentioned. There is no different between these beliefs and those of the Twelver Shi'as both with respect to the Principles of the Religion and the Ancillaries of the Religion. This is an important document about the Alawite beliefs. Other contemporary Alawite authors, such as Muhammad Amin Ghalib Tawil, Shaykh 'Isa Sa'ud, and Shaykh 'Ali 'Aziz Ibrahim also hold that the majority of the Alawites do not believe in immanence and reincarnation, and Sufi Alawites believe in Tajalli (manifestation), rather than immanence (hulul). They believe that the exaggerative tendencies of the Nusayriyya abou the Imams (a) were because of their isolation, deprivation, and ignorance.

 

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The Views of the Shiite Authorities about the Syrian Alawites

Shiite authorities, including Ayatollah Sayyid Ali KhameneiAyatollah Safi GulpayiganiAyatollah Makarim ShiraziAyatollah Nuri HamadaniAyatollah Musawi Ardabili, and Al-Sayyid Muhammad Husayn Fadl Allah have considered the Syrian Alawites as Twelver Shi'as in reply to questions in this regard. The question has cited the statement by the Alawites in their 1972 conference in Latakia, in which they expressed their views which agree with those of the Imami Shi'as.

Ayatollah Ja'far Subhani holds that beliefs attributed to the Nusayriyya, such as immanence, exaggeration about the Imams (a), reincarnations, the prophethood of Muhammad b. Nusayr, Imam 'Ali's (a) and Muhammad (s) sharing the prophethood, incest marriage, and the like are just accusations without any reliable sources and evidence. He takes the greatest accusation against the Alawites to be the exaggeration about Imam 'Ali (a).

Rabbani Gulpayigani also believes that what old and contemporary sources say about Alawites are not reliable, because they are biased.

Lebanese scholars and authorities, such as 'Allama Sharaf al-DinImam Musa SadrMuhammad Jawad MughniyaMuhammad Mahdi Shams al-Din, and Shaykh 'Abd al-Amir Qablan consider the Syrian Alawites to be Imami Shi'as and supported them.

https://en.wikishia.net/view/Alawites_(Syria)

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9 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Hi in his books he has talked about Nusayris which has been an infamous ghulat Sect which Wahabists & salafist still call Alawites as  Nusayris for justification of killing Shias in Syria which as sister @Hameedeh said 
...

anyway this slogan & practice completly abandoned between Alawites  in Syria 

Yeah I've never heard Alawites say this. (Or use any Farsi words at all, for that matter).

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