HM Queen Elizabeth [Official Thread]

[kadhim]

9 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

your posts are totally of topic which because you want to defend Queen Elizabeth

I’m Irish, genius. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

10 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Leave these two examples aside. What about Nafs al-Zakiyyā (rh) , who will rise before the Imam (aj) and will be martyred between the haramayn? His uprising and martyrdom are among the definitive (hatmī) signs of the dhuhūr. Will his uprising be taghūtī too? 

Salam appearing "Nafs al-Zakiyyā" so then his martyrdom besides Kaaba or is one of 5 major signs of the "Dhuhūr" nevertheless he won't has an uprising which he is just an informer about reappearance of Imam Mahdi (aj) which Imam will send him two weeks before his reappearance after starting his uprising  in similar fashion which Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) has sent Muslim ibn Aqil (رضي الله عنه) to  Kufa for informing people about his arrival & verifications of oaths of people of Kufa .

16 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

What have the scholars said about them? 

uprising of martyr Zaid (رضي الله عنه) clearly has been endorsed in multiple well documented hadiths by Imam Sadiq (عليه السلام) & rest of Imams after him as a valid uprising because he has invited people to follow Ahulbayt (عليه السلام) especially infallible Imam of their time , Imam Sadiq (عليه السلام)  which in similar fashion they have endorsed uprising of Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) although of accusations of Zubairis so then cursed Ummayids & Abbasids against him which Imam Sajjad (عليه السلام) word against Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) has been said due to Taqiya because he has been under heavy supervision of cursed Ummayids anyway indirectly he has said to Muhammad ibn Hanafiayah which " even a black slave has been raised for taking avenge of blood of Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) so then people must support him" 

[AbdusSibtayn]

11 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam appearing "Nafs al-Zakiyyā" so then his martyrdom besides Kaaba or is one of 5 major signs of the "Dhuhūr" nevertheless he won't has an uprising which he is just an informer about reappearance of Imam Mahdi (aj) which Imam will send him two weeks before his reappearance after starting his uprising  in similar fashion which Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) has sent Muslim ibn Aqil (رضي الله عنه) to  Kufa for informing people about his arrival & verifications of oaths of people of Kufa .

uprising of martyr Zaid (رضي الله عنه) clearly has been endorsed in multiple well documented hadiths by Imam Sadiq (عليه السلام) & rest of Imams after him as a valid uprising because he has invited people to follow Ahulbayt (عليه السلام) especially infallible Imam of their time , Imam Sadiq (عليه السلام)  which in similar fashion they have endorsed uprising of Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) although of accusations of Zubairis so then cursed Ummayids & Abbasids against him which Imam Sajjad (عليه السلام) word against Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) has been said due to Taqiya because he has been under heavy supervision of cursed Ummayids anyway indirectly he has said to Muhammad ibn Hanafiayah which " even a black slave has been raised for taking avenge of blood of Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) so then people must support him" 

I agree to all of what you have said brother. 

I mentioned Nafs al-Zakiyyā's movement in the category of 'uprising' because when the people of Mecca will refuse him and stubbornly persist in their falsehood, he'll naturally oppose them and keep inviting people to join and fight alongside himself. It is then that they will chase him all the way to the masjid al-haram and murder him between the rukn and the maqam ibrahim. 

I edited the post, partly because of the reasons you mentioned, and replaced it with the Yamani's example. 

I also agree that the Imam's supported both Zayd (عليه السلام) 's and Mukhtār (rh) 's rebellions. 

Wassalam

Edited September 12, 2022 by AbdusSibtayn

[AbdusSibtayn]

7 hours ago, FarmandeIsMahdi said:

Yes, ofc it wouldn't mean every Shi'i rebellion / flag before the Qa'im is batil, but obviously those during his occultation period. And, although Nafs al-Zakiyya will indeed rise before al Qa'im does, he will rise under the shade of his flag after all, negating any possibility for 'inanity' in the use of this hadith. I haven't seen any mufassireen's verdict to say that this refers to the false claimants of Mahdihood in particular, so please do direct me to where I can find out more about their interpretations. 

Agreed, but both the Yamani and the Khurasani appear before the Imam (aj) makes a public appearance. This is still during the major occultation. How do we reconcile these events with this hadith, if not through doing ta'weel against the apparent meaning? 

I believe Ayatollah Makarem Shirazi (ha) has a commentary on this hadith (it's in Farsi though). I'll see if I can find a translation to post here, or I'll translate it myself and post it here inshallah. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

2 minutes ago, kadhim said:

I’m Irish, genius. 

Northern Irish people have supported Britain & Queen against freedom fighters of southern   Ireland likewise struggles of pro british Irish people with  IRA & UDA/UFF which still northern Ireland is a colony of  Britain .

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Northern Ireland shocked and saddened at monarch's death https://www.bbc.com › news › uk-northern-ireland-
3 days ago — The Queen died at her Balmoral estate in Scotland on Thursday at the age of 96. Within minutes of her death being announced, people began laying ...

Statement by Northern Ireland Minister on the death of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II

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Minister of State at the Northern Ireland Office, Steve Baker MP, has issued the below statement in response to the death of HM Queen Elizabeth II:

Following the sad news today of the passing of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, I would like to echo the words of the Secretary of State and other members of Cabinet.

Her Majesty was unwavering in her dedication, selflessness and duty to the people of the UK and wider Commonwealth nations during her reign.

This was particularly true for the people of Northern Ireland and her efforts to build reconciliation and a better future here.

My thoughts today will be with The King and the entire Royal Family and I offer them my sincere condolences.

Statement by Northern Ireland Minister on the death of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

UKAnalysis
Queen Elizabeth’s death is an earthquake for Northern Irish unionists
The Royal family’s brand is bound to decline in Northern Ireland following the passing of a beloved figure

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Long live our gracious queen. And she lived long. Her loss has occasioned real communal grief — Northern Irish unionists have a deep emotional allegiance to Queen Elizabeth.

Queen Elizabeth’s death is an earthquake for Northern Irish unionists – The Irish Times

[AbdusSibtayn]

Here, found a translation-

We also believe that any uprising in the name of Imam Mahdi before His reappearance is condemned to failure and belongs to the Tyrant. But if an uprising is for the sake of Allah and in order to pave the ground for the reappearance of Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) and to implement the goals of Ahl-ul-Bayt (عليه السلام), then it is approved and is consistent with jurisprudential certainties and the rulings of Enjoining good and forbidding wrong. According to the certain documents "Islam without government," is a disfigured Islam which is free of content, and in fact is an Islam without Islam. Again, a group resist opposing the issue of Islamic government. The source of this opposition is, in fact, two things including mental aspect, and the aspect of narrations. The mental aspect is that, they have a bitter memory of the governments and they believe that in the current situation no one is able to form a divine government and implement Islamic justice. But in terms of narrative, they follow some narrations in this field which are not restricted to what you mentioned. The concept of narrations is that "every flag, which is set up as a government before the reappearance of Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام), is either a flag of delusions or condemned to failure." Pay attention to the interpretations of these traditions and they are as follows: 1. It means the uprisings which are carried out without the permission of infallible Imams (عليه السلام) or religious authorities or the general deputies of the Imams at the time of occultation. 2. It means the uprisings which are carried out to invite oneself and not to invite to the goals of the infallible Imams (peace be upon them), as mentioned in many narrations. The uprisings meant here is restricted to the ones that there was no preparation for such uprisings. So, the Imams (عليه السلام) talked in this way to prevent these premature or immature uprisings.  

Brother @Islamic Salvation also has a similar reading of these narrations-

"The historical context behind these warnings should not be ignored. The `Aimma knew how strongly the tyrants had entrenched themselves in that time period and recognized that any revolt against them would only strengthen them further.   "

[kadhim]

6 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Northern Irish people have supported Britain & Queen against freedom fighters of southern   Ireland likewise struggles of pro british Irish people with  IRA & UDA/UFF which still northern Ireland is a colony of  Britain .

Statement by Northern Ireland Minister on the death of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II

Statement by Northern Ireland Minister on the death of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

UKAnalysis
Queen Elizabeth’s death is an earthquake for Northern Irish unionists
The Royal family’s brand is bound to decline in Northern Ireland following the passing of a beloved figure

Queen Elizabeth’s death is an earthquake for Northern Irish unionists – The Irish Times

Thanks for Iran-splaining that for me. ;)

[Kenneth Lau]

On 9/8/2022 at 4:36 PM, -Rejector- said:

SHE'S DEAD! FINALLY!

Alhamdulillahirrabillaalameen for this incredible day. Best day of 2022 other than Russia's invasion of Ukraine. 

May she burn in the depths of Jahannam and suffer in the same way that she caused millions to suffer.

This is an eid for all Muslims.

Brother, you have to be careful: no one except Allah could say for sure who is in Hell.

[Laayla]

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

15 hours ago, Kenneth Lau said:

Brother, you have to be careful: no one except Allah could say for sure who is in Hell.

Salam people likewise cursed Muawiah (la) & cursed Yazid (la) surly will be in hell which it has been fixed which in similar fashion anyone who follows them will be in hell which surly Queen-Elizabeth has been responsible for killing many muslims whether sunni or Shia by sending her army or supporting division in Islam by supporting Wahabism so therefore she will be in hell.

[Ashvazdanghe]

17 hours ago, kadhim said:

Thanks for Iran-splaining that for me. ;)

 

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[Ashvazdanghe]

17 hours ago, kadhim said:

Thanks for Iran-splaining that for me. ;)

Elizabeth II's 70 years of ties with Iran; unforgettable wounds

Oil, coup d’état, support for Pahlavi despotism

A message from 'Queen Elizabeth' to the shah played role in CIA 1953 coup in Iran, documentary says
Historians who uncovered a message from "Queen Elizabeth" believe its misinterpretation helped persuade the shah not to flee Iran at a pivotal moment.

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According to "The Queen and the Coup," a documentary airing this month in Britain citing newly discovered U.S. documents, the comedy of errors may have played a key role in the 1953 CIA-British coup that toppled the democratic government of Iran.

 

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On Feb. 27, the U.S. Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, received a "top secret' cable from the American embassy in London relaying a message from Britain's Foreign Secretary, Anthony Eden, saying:

"Foreign Office this afternoon informed us of receipt message from Eden from Queen Elizabeth expressing concern at latest developments re Shah and strong hope we can find some means of dissuading him from leaving the country."

The extraordinary message appears to read as if Queen Elizabeth is appealing to a fellow monarch to remain resolute.

Washington viewed the message from Britain as an ace card to convince the shah to stay put, said Rory Cormac, professor of international relations at the University of Nottingham, one of two scholars who unearthed the documents.

 

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For the Americans, "this is great," Cormac told NBC News. "This is ammunition that we can use from somebody whom the shah really respects, the queen, the leader of the global royal families."

 

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U.S. officials decided not to tell their British counterparts about the mix-up. The British government would have been outraged to hear the queen was being invoked as a tool in a covert regime change operation, Cormac said.

 

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The revelation about the 1953 diplomatic notes raises the question of whether the British queen ever knew she had an inadvertent role in the events in Iran, or whether British officials ever sought to invoke the British royal in other geopolitical machinations, Aldrich and Cormac said.

 

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After the takeover in 1953, the American ambassador in Tehran proposed to London some sort of congratulatory message to the shah from British Prime Minister Winston Churchill or from the queen, according to the documentary.

The British Foreign Office shot back: "I do not think there can be any question of the Queen sending a message!"

A message from 'Queen Elizabeth' to the shah played role in CIA 1953 coup in Iran, documentary says (nbcnews.com)

 

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Islamic Revolution and Iran-Iraq War

Britain had an obstructive role in the Islamic Revolution since its commencement in 1963. Some experts deny Britain’s obstruction but the behavior of different British governments during Elizabeth’s reign after the Islamic Revolution reveals their intentions and their perception of the Islamic Revolution.

Sanctions

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The Western countries pressured Iran through sanctions led by the US. The move was fully accompanied by Britain. They issued various resolutions and imposed various sanctions against Iran to impede its achievement to nuclear capabilities.

 

 

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Britain also supported the Zionist regime’s assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists and its sabotage operations against Iranian nuclear sites.

Why do Iranians distrust Britain?

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Britain occupied Iran during World War II, created an artificial famine and civil war in Iran, provoked and incentivized Iran’s foreign enemies and internal dissidents, dominated Iran’s oil industry for a long time, contributed to the 1953 coup d’état, obstructed Iran’s Islamic Revolution, supported Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Iran, and exerted pressure against Iran in the case of nuclear issues.

These are only the most important reasons why Iranian’s are right to distrust Britain and King Charles III has a hard job to change the course and retain the Iranians’ trust.

Elizabeth II's 70 years of ties with Iran; unforgettable wounds - IRNA English

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/message-queen-elizabeth-shah-played-role-cia-1953-coup-iran-n1225981

 

[Haji 2003]

Bank Holiday implications

 

 

[Abu_Zahra]

6 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam people likewise cursed Muawiah (la) & cursed Yazid (la) surly will be in hell which it has been fixed which in similar fashion anyone who follows them will be in hell which surly Queen-Elizabeth has been responsible for killing many muslims whether sunni or Shia by sending her army or supporting division in Islam by supporting Wahabism so therefore she will be in hell.

Fear Allah and stop speaking beyond your status. Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) alone decides who goes to heaven and hell

[Ashvazdanghe]

Queen Elizabeth’s relationship with Princess Diana: ‘She's evil!'

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One began by pointing out, “Y'all keep saying when Princess Diana see the Queen, they not in the same place baby. Put that down.”

“that evil [expletive] is playing flaming double dutch with Satan right now, she's HANDLED. he been WAITING for her.” (sic)

Others pointed towards her ‘aversion’ to Princess Diana’s work with AIDS relief and referenced her speech, saying, “During the 1980s, the queen tried to stop Princess Diana's work in HIV advocacy, telling her to do something ‘more pleasant.’”

“But Diana ignored her, instead using her platform to tackle stigma and offer comfort to terrified people sick with what was then a terminal illness.”

     

Queen Elizabeth’s relationship with Princess Diana: ‘She's evil!' (geo.tv)

[Ashvazdanghe]

1 hour ago, Mahdavist said:

decides who goes to heaven and hell

 

Surly she has good judges to save her from hell.

[Ashvazdanghe]

5 hours ago, Mahdavist said:

Fear Allah and stop speaking beyond your status. Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) alone decides who goes to heaven and hell

Three main groups have been mentioned in the holy Quran who go to hell.

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1. The first group are those who are used as lighters. They include those who reside at the bottom of hell fire; Iblis and Faroe belong to this group. Regarding this group, in Ayahs 10 and 11 of Surah Aal-e-Imran, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) said: “Those who reject Faith, neither their possessions nor their progeny will avail them aught against Allah ((سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)); they are themselves but lighters for the hell fire. (Their plight will be) no better than that of Pharaoh, and their predecessors; they denied Our (God’s) Signs, and Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) called them to account for their sins. For Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is strict in punishment.” The word ‘Waqood’ used in Ayah 10 means fuel in today’s Arabic, but in fact is a material for starting a fire, like matches or lighters.

Who goes to hell according to the holy Quran? | Shia Studies' World Assembly

 

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Mehned Al-Showili in another Video:

Why do you keep calling us spies? Queen Elizabeth is from Sadat (she is a Alawiyah/Sayedah). Her ancestors have converted to Christianity. And she is also from Ahlulbayt. So her supporting us wouldn’t be an issue.

http://www.aparat.com/v/iNBrH

 

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“It is little known by the British people that the blood of Mohammed flows in the veins of the queen,” Brooks-Baker wrote to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher at the time.

Brooks-Baker connected Queen Elizabeth to Muhammad via Zaida of Seville, a Muslim princess from the 11th century who converted to Christianity and became King Alfonso VI of Castile’s concubine. However, it’s not clear if Zaida was actually related to Muhammad or not.  

That said, Hazleton can’t stop laughing at the idea of a legitimate connection between Queen Elizabeth and the Prophet Muhammad. “If you go back far enough, you can find some kind of third cousin 99 times removed for anybody in the world,” she says.

Was Queen Elizabeth Related to the Prophet Muhammad? - HISTORY

[Kenneth Lau]

8 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam people likewise cursed Muawiah (la) & cursed Yazid (la) surly will be in hell which it has been fixed which in similar fashion anyone who follows them will be in hell which surly Queen-Elizabeth has been responsible for killing many muslims whether sunni or Shia by sending her army or supporting division in Islam by supporting Wahabism so therefore she will be in hell.

TBH, I'm still cautious about being so sure especially since she actually has no power.

[Haji 2003]

On 9/9/2022 at 5:39 AM, Laayla said:

Do you need an article from the Financial Times to confirm that the Great Star of Africa was owned by Elizabeth?

The link below is from the Guardian.

On 9/9/2022 at 6:42 AM, Haji 2003 said:

If you read closely it says that it is held by them 'in right of the Crown', do you know what that means?

@Laayla since it appears you don't know let me educate you:

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The estate includes the royal archives and the royal collection of paintings, which are held by the monarch “in right of the crown”.

These assets cannot be sold by the King and they are in effect surrendered to the government in return for a grant.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/13/king-charles-will-not-pay-tax-on-inheritance-from-the-queen

[Laayla]

Bismehe Ta3ala 

Assalam Alikum 

Hajj Two Thousand and Three,

I appreciate your concern of educating me of "the right of the crown". 

She will be receiving her book of deeds behind her back. 

Anything else you would like to address to me?  Let it all come out.

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN ALLAH 

[Laayla]

[علوي]

On 9/12/2022 at 11:05 PM, Kenneth Lau said:

Brother, you have to be careful: no one except Allah could say for sure who is in Hell.

I didn't say she was definitely in Hell, I asked Allah, "May she burn in the depths of Jahannam".

Anyway, if your military has a policy of killing innocent civilians, chances are you're not going Jannah.

[Kenneth Lau]

Well, technically speaking, the Prime Ministers were responsible for the killing. Also, if she really was that horrible then why did God give her a long life and reign?

[PureExistence1]

41 minutes ago, Kenneth Lau said:

Also, if she really was that horrible then why did God give her a long life and reign?

Salaam,

To give her PLENTY of opportunity and time to repent and mend her ways so there could be no wrong doing or injustice attributed to Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), astagfirullah.

Also:

[3:178] And let not those who disbelieve think that Our granting them respite is better for their souls; We grant them respite only that they may add to their sins; and they shall have a disgraceful chastisement.

And:

And he to whom We grant long life We reverse in creation; so will they not understand?

(I wonder if she ever understood?)

And somewhere else it says that Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) grants the world to the people who desire it but they have no share in the afterlife.

As far as prime ministers are concerned, did she speak against their decisions openly?

She has more going against her than for her as far as morals, ethics and justice are concerned..Just cuz she looks like a nice sweet ol lady and gave a few emotional speeches doesnt mean jack in the whole scheme of things. Practically every move she ever made is Google-able.

People are short sighted/ deficient in memory and not good at critically thinking. 

(Sorry, dealing with a 3 day migraine and cant think too well and dont have the ability to search for all the specific ayahs)

If ive said any wrong here, may Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) forgive me and may others correct me!

[علوي]

7 hours ago, Kenneth Lau said:

Well, technically speaking, the Prime Ministers were responsible for the killing.

If there's one lesson we learn from our ziyaraat, it's that people who are pleased with actions may as well have performed the actions. If the queen was pleased with her military, (or if she wasn't displeased with her military), she's to blame for the deaths of innocent people. 

7 hours ago, Kenneth Lau said:

Also, if she really was that horrible then why did God give her a long life and reign?

Why did God give Abu Bakr reign? Why did He give Moawiya reign? Why did He allow Imam al-Husayn (عليه السلام) to be killed? Can you see how this argument is flawed?

Sayyeda Zayneb, when talking to Yazeed (LA), quotes this ayah:

وَلَا يَحْسَبَنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّمَا نُمْلِي لَهُمْ خَيْرٌ لِأَنْفُسِهِمْ ۚ إِنَّمَا نُمْلِي لَهُمْ لِيَزْدَادُوا إِثْمًا ۚ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ مُهِينٌ

Let the faithless not suppose that the respite that We grant them is good for their souls: We give them respite only that they may increase in sin, and there is a humiliating punishment for them. [3:178]

[Kenneth Lau]

I see your point, but I still think it's best that Allah gives the final judgement.

[Kenneth Lau]

On 9/13/2022 at 3:10 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Three main groups have been mentioned in the holy Quran who go to hell.

Who goes to hell according to the holy Quran? | Shia Studies' World Assembly

 

That said, Hazleton can’t stop laughing at the idea of a legitimate connection between Queen Elizabeth and the Prophet Muhammad. “If you go back far enough, you can find some kind of third cousin 99 times removed for anybody in the world,” she says.

Was Queen Elizabeth Related to the Prophet Muhammad? - HISTORY

Well, I have to agree that it's best that we leave all judgement to Allah on whether she goes to Heaven or to Hell.

[HzAbbas]

On 9/13/2022 at 8:01 AM, Kenneth Lau said:

TBH, I'm still cautious about being so sure especially since she actually has no power.

If they didn't it wouldn't be illegal to cricise them. Wouldn't you agree?

Queen vetoed more than a 1000 laws in the UK

[Hameedeh]

38 minutes ago, HzAbbas said:

Queen vetoed more than a 1000 laws in the UK

Not vetoed as you wrote it. Vetted by the Queen or Prince Charles. 

[HzAbbas]

1 minute ago, Hameedeh said:

Not vetoed as you wrote it. Vetted by the Queen or Prince Charles. 

My apologies, I was typing on my phone & didn't double check the headline. The central point though is just they have more power than people think. 

[Eddie Mecca]

Ugly Truth About Queen Elizabeth's Legacy (Richard Medhurst) 3 min. 

 

[VoidVortex]

a bit embarrassing how shia jamaats gave messages for condolences, when the 10 nights were only a few weeks ago. theres no point in these mourning ceremonies if we learn nothing from them. community leaders need to be held accountable.

london central mosque also mourned for the queen, singing the national anthem for the new king. how funny, they wont mourn imam hussain but for the queen they are quite prepared.

the most embarrassing blunder was today, in london at the arbaeen march where condolences were given to the queen and a speech was there praising her. its very infuriating this happened under the flag of Imam Hussain. the enemies of the Imam are being praised at a mourning ceremony for the Imam. 

[GreenTree]

One wicked lady, of a very wicked family is gone. So glad she is gone. I hope the rest of the family is gone by morning too. 

[علوي]

So they have a funeral for an old white Christian woman.

But they don't even mention the thousands of Kenyans who were killed because they rejected her.

(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/12/queen-death-kenya-colonial-rule-mau-mau-uprising)
(https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/kenya-prince-william-reparations-colonial-b2072257.html)

And they just forget the innocent civilians killed by her soldiers. 

(https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53597137)

And why does no one remember that her jewellery, worth millions of dollars, was stolen from Africa?

(https://globalnews.ca/news/9135146/queen-elizabeth-death-diamonds-crown-jewels-stolen-return/)

I'm amazed at how some Muslims actually respect her! What kind of person would respect a lying, violent, corrupt, arrogant, evil thief? Her military killed our Muslim brethren, yet we still love her?! We love the one whose army destroyed Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya?! What kind of 'Muslim' loves the queen of al-Shaytan al-Akbar?

Focus here for a second.

1. The queen was a tyrant. The only reason she was queen was because she was born to do it. Her military in Afghanistan had a deliberate policy of killing innocent civilians. Is this not cruel and oppressive? 

2. She split Kenyan society into two groups: the whites and the blacks. She abased and humiliated and Kenyans. Her reign saw millions of Kenyans mistreated, turned to slaves, raped, and more. 

3. In Afghanistan, her military's policy was to slaughter men, but not women.

This sounds like someone...Pharaoh, maybe? Look what Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) says:

إِنَّ فِرْعَوْنَ عَلَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَجَعَلَ أَهْلَهَا شِيَعًا يَسْتَضْعِفُ طَائِفَةً مِنْهُمْ يُذَبِّحُ أَبْنَاءَهُمْ وَيَسْتَحْيِي نِسَاءَهُمْ ۚ إِنَّهُ كَانَ مِنَ الْمُفْسِدِينَ

Indeed Pharaoh [1] tyrannized over the land, [2] reducing its people to factions, abasing one group of them, [3] slaughtering their sons, and sparing their women. Indeed, He was one of the agents of corruption. [28:4]

Hmm...sounds exactly like the queen. Then why do we curse Pharaoh and love the queen?

Furthermore, look at this verse. It says that Pharaoh was "slaughtering their sons..." But - was Pharaoh actually going out with a sword and killing members of Bani Israeel? No. But the Quran says that he was responsible for the actions of his soldiers. If we apply the same standard to the queen, we must blame her for the actions of her military. This is Quran, not me. 

So the queen is guilty for the actions of her soldiers. 

إِنَّهُ مَنْ يَأْتِ رَبَّهُ مُجْرِمًا فَإِنَّ لَهُ جَهَنَّمَ لَا يَمُوتُ فِيهَا وَلَا يَحْيَىٰ

Whoever comes to his Lord laden with guilt, for him shall be hell, where he will neither live nor die. [20:74]

Edited September 17, 2022 by -Rejector-

[Haji 2003]

Not everyone in the Union ...

This is from a football match where the Scottish football team Celtic FC were playing. The chant is from their supporters, who are also known to fly the Palestinian flag on occasion.