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Is there any extant work written by or directly from any Imam (AS)?

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I've been searching whether any Imam (عليه السلام) wrote book himself or is there any work directly narrated from him.

I came across names of two works which are attributed to Imams (عليه السلام).

1. The Golden Treatise (ٱلرِّسَالَة ٱلذَّهَبِيَّة) about which it is said that the work is directly written by Imam al-Reza (عليه السلام). However, some scholars are sceptical about its authenticity.

2. Tafsir of Qur'an by Imam Hassan al-Askari (عليه السلام) whose authenticity is also disputed.

Is there any work besides these two which is written directly by an Imam (عليه السلام) or is directly narrated from him (عليه السلام)?

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5 hours ago, The Alchemist said:

Is there any work besides these two which is written directly by an Imam (عليه السلام) or is directly narrated from him (عليه السلام)?

1- Nehjul balagah, book of sermons and Letters of Imam Ali (عليه السلام). collected by Sayed Al Razi

2- Saheefa sajaddiya, book of Dua / prayers of Imam Zayn ul Abideen (عليه السلام). 

3- Risala tul huqooq / treatise of Rights by Imam zayn ul Abideen (عليه السلام).

.........Many more

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5 hours ago, The Alchemist said:

 

2. Tafsir of Qur'an by Imam Hassan al-Askari (عليه السلام) whose authenticity is also disputed.

 do our scholars that do tafsir use this tafsir as a guideline or take points from it?

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11 minutes ago, VoidVortex said:

 do our scholars that do tafsir use this tafsir as a guideline or take points from it?

1. It is not a complete tafsir. It is only upto almost end of Surah al-Baqara.

2. It's authenticity is highly disputed.

Hence, most scholars might not be quoting it.

 

Read this for more details:

https://en.wikishia.net/view/Tafsir_al-Imam_al-Hasan_al-Askari_(a)_(book)

 

An article by brother @Nader Zaveri on it's authenticity:

http://www.revivingalislam.com/2010/06/tafseer-al-askaree-as-is-mawdoo.html?m=1

 

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20 minutes ago, Muslim2010 said:

1- Nehjul balagah, book of sermons and Letters of Imam Ali (عليه السلام). collected by Sayed Al Razi

2- Saheefa sajaddiya, book of Dua / prayers of Imam Zayn ul Abideen (عليه السلام). 

3- Risala tul huqooq / treatise of Rights by Imam zayn ul Abideen (عليه السلام).

.........Many more

wasalam

Nahj al-Balagha is not written by Imam Ali (عليه السلام) neither it is directly narrated by its author from Imam Ali (عليه السلام). In fact, the author was born at least two centuries after martyrdom of Maula Ali (عليه السلام).

OP is about any work directly attributed to any Imam (عليه السلام) or directly narrated from any Imam (عليه السلام) in his (عليه السلام) time.

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8 minutes ago, Hasani Samnani said:

https://www.al-islam.org/lantern-path-imam-jafar-al-sadiq

Most amazing treatise By Imam Jaffar e Sadiq AS.

Even it's authenticity is doubtful. Scholars like Allama Majlisi & Allama Hurr al-Amili have casted doubts on its authorship.

See this:

https://www.al-islam.org/lantern-path-imam-jafar-al-sadiq/publishers-note

 

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The sermon without dots (Arabic: خطبة الإمام علي عليه السلام الخالية من النقطة) is a sermon by Imam ʿAli (a) in which no Arabic letters with diacritics are used. The sermon was delivered to a group of the Prophet’s companions who were talking about the role of letters in speech. Since fifteen out of the twenty eight letters in the Arabic alphabet have diacritics (that is, dots above or below them), and the sermon is delivered by using only thirteen letters in the Arabic alphabet, it counts literary masterpiece. 

The sermon of Imam ʿAli without the letter alif, or al-Khutba al-Muniqa, is a sermon by Imam 'Ali (a) in which the letter alif is not used. The sermon was delivered in an improvised way by Imam ʿAli (a) among a group of the Prophet's companions who were conversing about the role of letters in the language. Since the letter alif is frequently used in the Arabic language, this sermon counts as a literary masterpiece.

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1 hour ago, The Alchemist said:

Even it's authenticity is doubtful. Scholars like Allama Majlisi & Allama Hurr al-Amili have casted doubts on its authorship.

See this:

https://www.al-islam.org/lantern-path-imam-jafar-al-sadiq/publishers-note

 

Both Allamah al-Majlisi and Allamah Hurr al-Amili felt that the book’s division into ninety-nine chapters and its emphasis on inner meaning is a style more suited to Gnostic or Sufi scholars. Other scholars, however affirm that this was the work of the Imam (‘a) himself, among them al-Sayyid Ali Ibn at-Tawus, Shaykh al-Kaf’ami, and ash-Shahid Ath-Thani.

Remember that some schools in the Shia world are very carefully to attribute anything to Masoomeen wrongly and the fact that punishment is very severe,  and as ehtiyat,  they raise the possibility of false attributions.

Also there has always been a school of Shia scholars who dismiss Irfaan and Irfaani works as incorrect. This division occurs even to thus day in the various howza al ilmiyah.

Since the lantern of the path is a deep Gnostic tract which is obviously not written by a normal human being, and delves in to deep knowledge and subjects, the non irfani school may dismiss it as more sufi like.

However, if legendary scholars like Ibn Tawus and Al Kafami have affirmed it, and would not dare risk their Aakhiraa and worldy state by making a false affirmation,  I think we can trust that level of Security Certificate.

The above mentioned khutbahs delivered spontaneously with no preparation,  is above  Artificial Intelligence level knowledge even with a neural network background , and i think anyone reading the original Arabic of both the khutbahs and the treatise will rapidly realize that these works come out of a vast depth of a Sea of  knowledge whose depth we cannot comprehend.

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12 minutes ago, Hasani Samnani said:

The sermon without dots (Arabic: خطبة الإمام علي عليه السلام الخالية من النقطة) is a sermon by Imam ʿAli (a) in which no Arabic letters with diacritics are used. The sermon was delivered to a group of the Prophet’s companions who were talking about the role of letters in speech. Since fifteen out of the twenty eight letters in the Arabic alphabet have diacritics (that is, dots above or below them), and the sermon is delivered by using only thirteen letters in the Arabic alphabet, it counts literary masterpiece. 

The sermon of Imam ʿAli without the letter alif, or al-Khutba al-Muniqa, is a sermon by Imam 'Ali (a) in which the letter alif is not used. The sermon was delivered in an improvised way by Imam ʿAli (a) among a group of the Prophet's companions who were conversing about the role of letters in the language. Since the letter alif is frequently used in the Arabic language, this sermon counts as a literary masterpiece.

I would challenge any Arabic scholar to spontaneously give an oral speech without a frequently used letter or dots,  these are incredible literary feats not reproduced to this day.

To attribute these type of literary works to any other human would be an obvious false hood.

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20 hours ago, The Alchemist said:

Nahj al-Balagha is not written by Imam Ali (عليه السلام) neither it is directly narrated by its author from Imam Ali (عليه السلام). In fact, the author was born at least two centuries after martyrdom of Maula Ali (عليه السلام).

OP is about any work directly attributed to any Imam (عليه السلام) or directly narrated from any Imam (عليه السلام) in his (عليه السلام) time.

The title of the thread just mentions that" Is there any extant work written by or directly from any Imam (عليه السلام)?"

That does not mean that the work coming through the narrators or books is not the words of the Imam.  Authenticity is some thing different even what you have quoted in OP have doubtful authenticity. 

If the principle you are mentioning is taken then the hadith book of the prophet that were written both in sunni and shia mostly in 2nd century ( that we have presently) are not considered the words of the prophet and imams. Do you agree to it?

It seems from thread OP that you just seem to present the image that shia do not have hadith coming from prophet & imams which is certainly not the case and it is strongly rejected.

wasalam

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33 minutes ago, Muslim2010 said:

The title of the thread just mentions that" Is there any extant work written by or directly from any Imam (عليه السلام)?"

That does not mean that the work coming through the narrators or books is not the words of the Imam.  Authenticity is some thing different even what you have quoted in OP have doubtful authenticity. 

If the principle you are mentioning is taken then the hadith book of the prophet that were written both in sunni and shia mostly in 2nd century ( that we have presently) are not considered the words of the prophet and imams. Do you agree to it?

It seems from thread OP that you just seem to present the image that shia do not have hadith coming from prophet & imams which is certainly not the case and it is strongly rejected.

wasalam

I do never mean to say that what comes through reliable narrators is not from Imams (عليه السلام). This thread is not about that.

I just wanted to know if any Imam (عليه السلام) wrote work himself or is there any work directly narrated from any Imam (عليه السلام). I came across two works (which I've mentioned in OP). I was wondering if there is any other work besides these two. So I started this thread to get knowledge from senior knowledgeable members of ShiaChat.

By God, I'm not trying to portray any image whatsoever!!

And it is humbly requested that if you know something relevant do post here and if you don't, please don't derail the thread.

PS this thread is also not for debating anything at all.

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3 hours ago, The Alchemist said:

I do never mean to say that what comes through reliable narrators is not from Imams (عليه السلام). This thread is not about that.

I just wanted to know if any Imam (عليه السلام) wrote work himself or is there any work directly narrated from any Imam (عليه السلام). I came across two works (which I've mentioned in OP). I was wondering if there is any other work besides these two. So I started this thread to get knowledge from senior knowledgeable members of ShiaChat.

By God, I'm not trying to portray any image whatsoever!!

And it is humbly requested that if you know something relevant do post here and if you don't, please don't derail the thread.

PS this thread is also not for debating anything at all.

Thanks for your remarks and response brother mentioning clarification.

I like to add that i provided my response as input to the thread, i received comments on it then in return I have clarified and mentioned what is obvious from the discussion. Thus it is certainly considered as a discussion thread.

As it is an open forum any member can come and respond to the post. I certainly do not intend to derail a thread.

wasalam

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