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Salman purposely wrote such a book, to insult our prophet.

If we insult Jesus Christ, or Saint Mary in a book, Would western powers show support and defend such work? 

Mostly likely they would be against us. I think killing him is less important, more important is that muslim governments force western governments to ban his book. 

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Sunnis generally state that Rushdie has only himself to blame.

But because of years of propaganda, mostly heated up by US-backed states to contain Iran's brand of Islamic Revolution, some Sunnis have developed an allergic reaction to Shi'a.

With wisdom of the sort Imam Ali showed after the Prophet's death, the Shi'a can defeat this propaganda and save the Umma from fracturing. 

But in order to do that, they must ACT like Imam Ali did after the Prophet passed away. That is, they must not show ANY behaviour that would inflame the situation and sustain this deep rift.

Tashayyu' is about behaving like Ali among other Muslims. Not about defending Ali in a way that betrays the very practice of Imam Ali. If Imam Ali wanted to defend himself with curses and hate and turning his back on the rest of the Umma (including their leaders), he could have done so. But he acted with wisdom for the sake of Allah and his religion. 

Tashayyu' is to follow in the footsteps of that wisdom and the wisdom of Imam Hasan and Imam Husayn vis a vis the Umma. 

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Satanic Verses Debunked/Dr. Ali Ataie (20 minutes) 

 

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I still have all three lectures on VHS cassette (originally purchased in 1988-1989) and the booklet (all in pristine condition) Ahmed Deedat 'How Rushdie Fooled The West' (2 hours) God, I'm old

[Mod Note: The video begins with its own advisory as to who should watch it:]

Warning: This video contains excerpts from The Satanic Verses which may offend sensitive and modest viewers.

 

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'Should Rushdie Die? The Judeo/Christian Verdict' Ahmed Deedat (2 hours) 

 

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'Should Rushdie Die? The Islamic Verdict' Sheikh Ahmed Deedat (1 hour 10 min) 

 

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On 8/16/2022 at 10:12 PM, Ethics said:

BRAVO !! BRAVO !! :NH: Bringing back someone irrelevant and making him rich again! This world, this society is not the same as it was during our Prophets and Imams time. It is a global society with mass consumption of ideas and messages. You think Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) did not know that?

Salman Rushdie’s ‘The Satanic Verses’ leaps to top of Amazon bestseller lists
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/16/salman-rushdies-books-top-amazons-bestseller-lists-after-stabbing.html

People supporting Rushdie and bashing Shias for this book doesn't mean Ayatullah khomeini or any executor of that fatwa is wrong.

EVEN IF THIS ENTIRE PLANET SUPPORTS AN EVIL BOOK LIKE  THAT FOR THE SAKE OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR EXPRESSION OR WHATEVER HELL THEY MEAN, IT PROVES THAT THIS WORLD IS A PLACE FULL OF MORALLY AND SPIRITUALLY DEAD PEOPLE. THAT'S IT.

Surah Al An'am 116) And if you obey most of those in the earth, they will lead you astray from Allah's way; they follow but conjecture and they only lie.

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Why don't they read this beautiful peace by Karen Armstrong. A thoroughly researched book on our Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amazon.com/Muhammad-Prophet-Time-Karen-Armstrong/dp/0061155772&ved=2ahUKEwiMk8nV7dr5AhWkUXwKHZi8BrMQFnoECFkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2bWgwGFyT16PA35LJwSDb_

I don't think I must speak out the reason. It is obvious that they all are haters and fatwa for them is just an excuse to vomit out their hate.

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So to all those dismissing the conspiracy aspect of the whole Rushdie stabbing, I present to you

https://www.unz.com/ejones/the-timing-behind-the-atttack-on-salman-rushdie/

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Witnesses in the room waiting for Rushdie to speak said he was stabbed 10 to 15 times. Since he survived it, the attack could have been "acting" like he was being fatally injured. 

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23 hours ago, Hasani Samnani said:

So to all those dismissing the conspiracy aspect of the whole Rushdie stabbing, I present to you

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Floyd Lee Corkins walked into the Family Research Council’s headquarters on August 15, 2012 and opened fire on the staff. Corkins eventually “pleaded guilty to three charges, including a charge of committing an act of terrorism” after telling the FBI that “he wanted to kill anti-gay targets and went to the [Southern Poverty] law center’s website for ideas.

The author's point is that there are plenty of non-Muslim organisations issuing 'fatwas' (of course they do not use the term), but which are effectively incitements to violence. And they don't get called out on it.

I should add that the article uses anti-semitic language in places, for which there was no need and which undermine the seriousness of the issues discussed.

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On 8/17/2022 at 6:31 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

Yes let's not give this vile pornographer another stage to strut around.

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Well, one could argue that the positive as well as negative reaction to the stabbing has given him unwarranted publicity. If one detests the author, then an asymmetrical response would be wiser under the circumstances, rather than a direct, public, verbal assault on his latest doings. Rushdie follows Trump’s mantra: “All publicity is good publicity.” So Muslims who verbally berate Rushdie are doing as just as much as his admirers to earn him cash.

On 8/17/2022 at 6:31 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

I believe this non religious kid from a broken home and vulnerable misfit, was brow beat or blackmailed into this act  and I don't condone such violence, BUT did he deserve it, absolutely.

Honestly, I do not even believe that the “culprit” was a real persona rather than a phantasmagoric composite. It is far more plausible that the entire “incident” never occurred, given a preexisting agenda and public credulity. Nevertheless, even if the culprit and the incident were genuine, why would the perpetrator be an irreligious good-for-nothing? After all, you are stating that Rushdie deserved his fate, so you can’t say that you a) don’t condone violence and b) claim the perpetrator was a loser yet c) simultaneously maintain that Rushdie merited violence.

On 8/17/2022 at 6:31 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

I think his usefulness was rapidly diminishing and The new tiktok generation had idea who he was.

So just like many false flags , it's almost credible at first glance. However,  with deeper understanding and more facts the Cui Bono ( more Latin which @kadhimloves) will become clear and potemkin village falls apart.

I don’t even think this was a false flag, but an entirely made-up, fabricated non-event to begin with, to smear Iran.

On 8/17/2022 at 6:31 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

a washed up writer who doomed his own career in its infancy

“Doomed his career”? The publicity arguably made his career. People of ill repute often thrive on ill repute.

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9 hours ago, Northwest said:

Rushdie follows Trump’s mantra: “All publicity is good publicity.” So Muslims who verbally berate Rushdie are doing as just as much as his admirers to earn him cash.

That may definitely be true in a broadcast media and social media driven world, however it's Our Creator and His chosen message and messenger to whom we pledged complete subservience, and he will choose to accept our actions, whatever the short term end result. It's the final judgement I give higher preference to.

9 hours ago, Northwest said:

you are stating that Rushdie deserved his fate, so you can’t say that you a) don’t condone violence and b) claim the perpetrator was a loser yet c) simultaneously maintain that Rushdie merited violence

I know it sound very contradictory but I tried to choose my words carefully. I don't condone such violence on a stage, without true legitimacy, which makes Muslims look like uncivilized savages. B...Both the stabber and stabbed seem to be, especially the latter, losers in God's eyes.

He chose to insult God's beloved and chosen...and we know the result of such choice in the many Abrahamic and non Abrahamic texts.

9 hours ago, Northwest said:

BUT did he deserve it, absolutely.

I believe that we have the examples of such arrogance and results of trying to oppose God's Commands and degrade his most beloved creation, the one whom he has guaranteed to protect from such filth.

So did he deserve what he got...absolutely, was it in the way I would have preferred, not at all.

In this case, a court directed public flogging as a reminder to others that certain noble personalities are not to be pornographically portrayed,  criticized...no issue,  but disrespected with absolute depravity of  forethought and Malice....guess again.

Like Firaun, Nimrod, Abraha, and countless others arrogant depraved personalities throughout the ages ....have been used as historical examples of arrogance meeting an omnipotent omniscient immutable unyielding universally acknowledged  force. Such outcomes are predictable.

9 hours ago, Northwest said:

who doomed his own career in its infancy

well yes if the trumpian mantra of all publicity is good or useful, he earned notoriety,  but since it was such a horribly writte example of Magical Realism, in direct contrast to  geniuses like Cortazar, Borges or Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

So while it won him politically driven accolades , it didn't elevate him in the literary sphere at all.

9 hours ago, Northwest said:

People of ill repute often thrive on ill repute

Sadly such a truism in the modern amoral and Luciferian driven world.

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U.S. academic claims another source for the attack

 

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Professor Nader Hashemi's comments—which claimed that Rushdie's alleged attacker, Hadi Matar, could have been lured into the attack by Mossad agents—are a sign of the increasing prevalence of pro-Iranian regime propaganda in U.S. academic institutions, according to Republican foreign policy leaders who spoke to the Washington Free Beacon.

https://freebeacon.com/campus/republicans-eye-pro-iran-propaganda-in-us-colleges-after-prof-claims-israel-behind-rushdie-attack/

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6 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

It is very rare that those who call themselves Shias, pro hisbollah etc do such an action in US. Specially it does not make sense it just happen in time where Iranian deal is almost done. But It could be that he really did this by himself. 

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Salman Rushdie survived the stabbing. Is he still in hospital? 

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13 minutes ago, Hameedeh said:

Salman Rushdie survived the stabbing. Is he still in hospital? 

So from my Neurosurgical Colleagues who work in the Buffalo area and in center which was considered by the ambulance company as a possible level I trauma destination,  I hear he is still in ICU, but very stable.

The news about his condition is very guarded now, one....for potential dangers as per  Law Enforcement, two ....at request of family and agent and as per HIPPA rules.

Two staff at hospital were suspended for sharing details from EMR ( electronic Medical Record) with British tabloids.

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Interesting comparison

  1. Joe Darby blew the whistle on abuses committed by American soldiers in Abu Ghraib (Iraq).
  2. Don Rumsfeld (the Defence Sec) revealed his name, knowing the consequences
  3. Darby's family faced death threats from neighbours (American patriots no doubt)
  4. Darby and his family have had to go into protective custody
  5. Rumsfeld faced no consequences 

Link for those not familiar with the story from NPR:

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5651609

 

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The book is over 30 years old, it's all but forgotten ..now suddenly when Iran and the West are negotiating the resumption of the nuclear deal suddenly there's allegedly a hit by the IRGC on Bolton and Pompeo, and Rushdie gets stabbed.

Yeah, totally not suspicious. 

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On 8/15/2022 at 11:49 AM, It's me hello said:

This would justify killing just about any atheist that has significant problems with Islam and that writes or speaks about it. If you're okay with vigilante killings of every single outspoken atheist, then that's cool. You should just admit to that. Just say that you want outspoken anti-Islam advocates to get stabbed to death.

However if you actually care about spreading a positive message about Islam, you should probably look into not killing people. Nobody will be like "Ohhhhh, he just got stabbed and mutilated to death by a Muslim? Maybe I should become a Muslim, they seem like a very reasonable group of people." What do you hope to accomplish by this? Do you guys just blindly follow any authority without questioning for 1 second? You are literally hurting Islam worse than any one of these idiot atheists could. Every time something like this happens, people who hate Islam are frothing at the mouth to take advantage of the situation. They use events like this to make Muslims look like barbaric savages, and honestly they wouldn't be wrong. After reading this thread, it seems like a lot of Muslims believe it's okay to murder someone who disagrees with you.

i don't know what to feel about this but the guy who said liberals,hindus don't tolerate when they are insulted is right. hell even lgbt get violent when you insult them. i received death threats from lgbt online for insulting them

and yeah i agree 90% of christianity is dead. thats why they will tolerate when people insult their belief.

 

can someone please give me an answer why even liberals today are more intolerant when being insulted than 90% of christians? has christians really become weak to the point even religions that make only 1% of the popualtion on the planet can be considered stronger than them?

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Judge grants prosecution extra time to review material in alleged Rushie attack

By Mark Goshgarian Chautauqua County

UPDATED 11:11 PM ET Sep. 21, 2022 PUBLISHED 10:13 PM ET Sep. 21, 2022

An evidence hearing was held in Chautauqua County Court Wednesday for 24-year-old Hadi Matar, who is accused of attacking author Salman Rushdie.

The judge granted the prosecution another 60 days to review the material and share with the defense.

The judge also granted an order of protection to conceal the identities of witnesses from Matar, which Chautauqua County District Attorney Jason Schmidt requested. Chautauqua County Chief Public Defender Ned Barone, however, plans to appeal that protective order.

“We're looking to make sure the integrity of the case is preserved,” said Schmidt. “There are constitutional rights on each side … it's our job to present our case and that includes witnesses, and in order to do that, we felt it was appropriate in this situation to have that protective order in place.”

"So I've made a request for the minutes of the transcript from the hearing, and I'll also ask for an unsealing of the record for purposes of the appeal, so that's something that's going to be filed immediately,” said Barone.  

Matar is accused of stabbing Rushdie on stage as the author was about to give a lecture at Chautauqua Institution last month.

The New Jersey resident is being charged with second-degree assault and second-degree attempted murder.

His next court date is in November.

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/buffalo/news/2022/09/22/hearing-for-man-accused-of-attacking-author-salman-rushdie

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On 10/15/2022 at 5:37 AM, Hameedeh said:

Is he still in hospital? 

Author Salman Rushdie has lost sight in one eye and hand is ‘incapacitated’ following August stabbing attack, agent says (Published 4:38 PM EDT, Sun October 23, 2022)

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(literary agent Andrew) Wylie declined to tell the newspaper if Rushdie was still hospitalized and did not specify when he had last been updated on Rushdie’s condition, according to an English language write-up of the interview. He said the most important thing was the writer was going to live.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/23/world/salman-rushdie-attack-lost-sight/index.html

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5 minutes ago, ShiaChat Mod said:

Wylie declined to tell the newspaper if Rushdie was still hospitalized

It's been two months since the stabbing. You would think that the hospital would be quick to announce, as soon as possible, that Rushdie has left the building. 

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