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Erdogan Announces Syrian Invasion by Turkish Military (Richard Medhurst)

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Richard breaks down: 1.) Turkey blocking Sweden and Finland membership into NATO 2.) Ankara's illegal "incursion" into Syria and creation of so-called buffer zones under guise of securing its southern border 3.) Ankara caught working with ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) etc. 4.) Ankara hypocritically categorizing Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) as a terrorist organization 5.) Syria's oil reserves 6.) Assassination of Press TV journalist Serena Shim 

 

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20 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

4.) Ankara hypocritically categorizing Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) as a terrorist organization

Salam "PKK" is recognized  as terrorist  organization  by Iran too which it has strong relationship  with zionist Israel against  any muslim & muslim country which this party manifestation  is destroying  Islam & spreading  commnism & praising it's leaders in level of prophets  in similar fashion of  a satanic cult .

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PKK surely is a terrorist organization BUT considering the fact that 80% of the Kurds are living in Turkey and the leaders of the PKK terrorist organization are hosted in İmralı Island of Turkey giving statements all the time. And the fact that it has been the Turkish regime which destabilized Iraq and Syria by funding and arming the rebels in Syria and also letting the USA invade Iraq and Syria through İncirlik Airbase and all the 40 NATO bases in Turkey. So, as a member of NATO (kufr alliance), it has been Turkey that invaded and destabilized Iraq and Syria. And Turkey caused the weakening of the governments/states there. So, Turkey created the athmosphere for PKK-PJAK-PYD-YPG etc. become stronger and claim autonomy in the neighbouring states. Erdoğan surely is wanting a greater Israel in the name of Kurdistan. He does not care about the Turkish state or the Turks or the Kurds. Because his actions have proved that his invasion and fight against Iraqi and Syrian governments serve the NATO and Greater Israel. He just uses the feelings of Turks and Sunni Muslims but what he does causes more harm for them. I wish people knew.

Here Erdoğan admits that TOGETHER WITH AMERICA AND OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, HE FOUNDED THE FSA

HERE ERDOĞAN ADMITS HE IS THE MAIN SPONSOR AND ALLY OF THE USA IN ITS "GREATER" MIDDLE EAST PROJECT:

 

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19 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam "PKK" is recognized  as terrorist  organization  by Iran too

Salaam bro, yeah I know and I agree...I'm not in favor of Marxist groups generally speaking...I was simply pointing out hypocrisy of Erdogan.

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Is the PKK a good place for children like 12-year-old Sonia Rouhi?

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These individuals and families of the victims did not find their own destiny, they did not voluntarily get into this situation, and none of them is happy that their child or children were kidnapped or deceived by Kurdish militants.

The Sonia Rouhi family is one of several Iranian Kurdish families involved in these issues who have fallen victim to PJAK’s policy of using child soldiers.

According to Sonia’s father in an interview with Iranian Kurdistan Human Rights Watch, his daughter was only 12 years old when she was deceived by family members that sympathize with the group, and taken to a PKK camp.

Imagine a 12-year-old girl who becomes a member of a Kurdish militia, getting armed and trained, packing a gun that would be about the same size of the child!

The question here is whether the PKK pays due attention to the mental and physical needs of recruited individuals, especially children.

The answer to this question has been provided by the Human Rights Watch of Iranian Kurdistan in the form of numerous conversations with the families of victims and, of course, members who have defected from the PKK and PJAK.

No, not only are children not raised in the PKK environment according to their age, but instead of the warm embrace of their family, they are surrounded by strangers of different ages and sometimes with different languages, in an environment that not only lacks in security, but is also entrapped in internal competition to quickly receive a higher rank.

Instead of pen and notebook, these youngsters take up arms, do unpaid hard labor, such as moving supplies, preparing and digging caves for the winter, guarding duty for commanders, and take part in military activities, and shooting training courses.

Oftentimes, these young people fear escaping. Most defectors are well in their twenties when they finally dare to return home.

https://www.ikhrw.com/en/article/is-the-pkk-a-good-place-for-children-like-12-year-old-sonia-rouhi/

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On 5/27/2022 at 7:10 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

pointing out hypocrisy of Erdogan.

Turkish airstrike kills at least two children in Iraqi Kurdistan

Turkish drone strikes have killed two boys, 6 and 13, in Duhok, Iraqi Kurdistan while KDP affiliated media pointed to the PKK as the culprit.

Villagers from Bamerne in the Amadiya district were outside in the plains of the countryside for a wedding when the Turkish drones attacked, according to witnesses.

“First, Turkish forces shelled the mountains,” the father of one of the boys, 13, told local media. The other boy was 6 years old.

Drones armed with missiles struck the area between 17.00pm and 18.00pm local time, the father said.

Duhok Governor Eli Teter told Rudaw that the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) was responsible for the attack on the picnic area.

Village chief Birqi Ömer told Rudaw that PKK fired three mortars at a Turkish outpost in the area, and that soldiers retaliated by firing two mortars. Ömer said the two deaths occurred as a result of the Turkish soldiers’ fire.

https://www.ikhrw.com/en/article/turkish-airstrike-kills-at-least-two-children-in-iraqi-kurdistan/

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I think it is rather evident that the PKK and Turkey have been silent allies all along. PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan has been successfully publishing his writings in the West despite having been imprisoned in Turkey since 1999. Turkish authorities have repeatedly agreed to meet with Öcalan. Turkey is a member of NATO yet allows the head of its supposed “public enemy number one” to gain international publicity rather easily. Israeli media have regularly supported the PKK, which in turn is subordinate to the same Western coalition that backs Turkey. At the time of his arrest in 1999 Öcalan was publicly defended by Western fronts such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. Turkey needs the PKK and the PKK needs Turkey in order to aid their shared masters’ goal of dividing and ruling the Muslim world on behalf of the West/Israel. Further evidence of this is the fact that Ermine Erdoğan, Turkey’s First Lady, has promoted globalist-oriented projects such as women’s education, sustainability (in line with Agendas 21/2030), and opposition to child-marriage, despite her husband’s supporting Wahhabi–Salafi groups such as al-Qaida and Daesh in Syria, Nagorno-Karabakh, and Libya.

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On 5/26/2022 at 8:24 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

Richard breaks down: 1.) Turkey blocking Sweden and Finland membership into NATO 2.) Ankara's illegal "incursion" into Syria and creation of so-called buffer zones under guise of securing its southern border 3.) Ankara caught working with ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) etc. 4.) Ankara hypocritically categorizing Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) as a terrorist organization 5.) Syria's oil reserves 6.) Assassination of Press TV journalist Serena Shim

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According to reports Russia, Turkey, and Israel seem to be coordinating their activities in Syria, Ukraine, and the South Caucasus in such a manner as to isolate Iran. For example, Russia appears to be facilitating Turkey’s imminent offensive vs. the SAA/SDF in Manbij and Tel Rifaat, Syria, in exchange for cooperation on the Ukrainian matter. Putin has always been on good terms with the Israeli leadership and was reluctant to help Syria in 2014–5. Only Syrian and Iranian pressure finally persuaded Putin to intervene, and even then he has not helped defend Syria vs. Israeli airstrikes. Russian economic cooperation with Iran is far lower than it could be, owing to Zionist influence within the Russian leadership. According to official data, Putin’s mother was Jewish, and Putin is obviously close to the Masonic Chabad, like Jared Kushner. Russia also tacitly backed Turkey’s previous military offensives (OLIVE BRANCH, EUPHRATES SHIELD) vs. the SAA/SDF. I am not sure as to why Syria and Iran asked Russia for help in 2014–5, when it was clear that Russia has always been under Zionist control, despite pretending to be otherwise (just as “Muslim” countries such as Saudi Arabia and Turkey pretend to be on the side of Islam but in fact are pursuing other agendas). Inviting Russia into Syria made the latter dependent on the “protection” afforded by the Zionist nexus of NATO, Israel, and Russia. Also, I do not understand why Assad has not asked Iran to supply the Bavar-373 for protection vs. Israeli airstrikes, given that Russia is obviously not helping yet Syria continues to place its trust in Russia as well as Iran.

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On 6/12/2022 at 2:20 PM, Northwest said:

Hi anyway these things are just gossips & rumors about his mother which doest has solid evidence which until Chabad is against Zionism so then closness  of Putin to it is not problematic nevertheless Russia always has kept it's relation with Israel alive for it's interests.

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On 6/12/2022 at 2:20 PM, Northwest said:

Also, I do not understand why Assad has not asked Iran to supply the Bavar-373 for protection vs. Israeli airstrikes, given that Russia is obviously not helping yet Syria continues to place its trust in Russia as well as Iran.

I totaly agree with this part.

 

 

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On 6/13/2022 at 4:28 PM, Traveller_ said:

Whenever there´s an economic crisis, divert your people´s attention elsewhere. 
Eventually the Middle East will get gobbled up by either Turkey or Israel, in influence and in obedience.. and soon maybe in name too. 

Salam

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 6/12/2022 at 2:20 PM, Northwest said:

Also, I do not understand why Assad has not asked Iran to supply the Bavar-373 for protection vs. Israeli airstrikes, given that Russia is obviously not helping yet Syria continues to place its trust in Russia as well as Iran.

 

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235073953-jews-and-their-prophecy-of-iran/#comment-3370592

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On 6/12/2022 at 2:20 PM, Northwest said:

According to official data, Putin’s mother was Jewish, and Putin is obviously close to the Masonic Chabad, like Jared Kushner. Russia also tacitly backed Turkey’s previous military offensives (OLIVE BRANCH, EUPHRATES SHIELD) vs. the SAA/SDF

‘Denazification’ has a history. It’s not Vladimir Putin’s version.(Zionist viewpoint)

Putin’s uses of “genocide” and “denazification” are repugnant to historians and families who knew the horrors of World War II for Ukraine’s Jews.

https://www.grid.news/story/global/2022/03/10/denazification-has-a-history-its-not-vladimir-putins-version/

 

 

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On 6/13/2022 at 4:28 PM, Traveller_ said:

Whenever there´s an economic crisis, divert your people´s attention elsewhere. 
Eventually the Middle East will get gobbled up by either Turkey or Israel, in influence and in obedience.. and soon maybe in name too. 

 

UN agrees to change Turkey’s official name to ‘Türkiye’

Turkey began the move to change its internationally recognised official name in English to Türkiye in December.

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Turkey began the move to change its internationally recognised official name in English to Türkiye in December after Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan released a memorandum and asked the public to use Türkiye to describe the country in every language.

“Türkiye is accepted as an umbrella brand for our country in national and international venues,” Erdogan said at the time. “Türkiye is the best representation and expression of the Turkish people’s culture, civilization and values.”

Erdogan also advised companies to use “made in Türkiye” for their exported goods, and instructed state agencies to use Türkiye in their correspondence.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/2/un-registers-turkiye-as-new-country-name-for-turkey

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Turkish expansionism illustrates why Syria’s longtime ban on the (Sunni) Muslim Brotherhood was/is wise. Unlike Iran, Syria has consistently refused to engage with or court the MB, except for a brief interlude prior to the Syrian proxy conflict. Iranian engagement with MB offshoot Hamas has proven to be self-defeating and has only helped Turkey expand at Iran’s expense. Hamas receives logistical and other support, only to use it vs. Iranian interests, as in Syria. In a number of interviews President Assad stated that Turkey, along with its patron Qatar, has consistently been Syria’s primary foe, while the GCC as a whole has been rather friendly toward Syria but has been under Western pressure. So according to Assad even the Saudis have not behaved as egregiously as Turkey has in Syria. Assad has also been supportive of President Sisi in Egypt and has condemned Turkey for its aggression in Nagorno-Karabakh and Libya. Had Iran consistently adopted Syria’s principled positions on the MB, it would have been in a better position by now.

Popular Sunni Islamist movements tend to be much more dangerous than state-controlled ones and tend to gravitate toward the most extreme iterations of Wahhabi–Salafi “activism.” After all, Sunni leadership is historically dependent on the state, or rather a charismatic tribal leader, and tends to become more sectarian once freed from the control of the state. The MB’s promotion of Sunni “democracy” has allowed the most extreme Wahhabi–Salafi currents to challenge all existing Muslim societies, threatening not just Iran and/or the Shias, but also all existing Sunni societies, as well as long-marginalised, traditional sources of Sunni legitimacy. Certain factions within al-Qaida, Daesh, et al. not only oppose Iranian interests, but also a) want to form a pan-Sunni alliance under the MB and b) want to overthrow all Sunni regimes, save those of Turkey/Qatar. At the same time, while allying with the “populist” Wahhabi–Salafi elements, the MB tries to persuade Iran into joining a pan-Sunni “jihad” vs. Egypt, the KSA/UAE, and so on.

So the Turkish-and-Qatari-backed MB wants to overthrow the Saudi, Emirati, and Egyptian regimes with the misguided assistance of Iran, thereby allowing a “populist” Wahhabi–Salafi movement to take over the Sunni world and eventually take on Iran. The Anglo-Americans and Israelis have long sought to develop a “populist” Sunni alternative to the Iranian model, recognising that the “secularist” alternatives have not proven to be effective. Turkey/Qatar help undermine Iranian influence, weaken Russia and China, and prevent the EU—especially France, Germany, and Italy—from becoming too independent. Ukraine, Poland, and the Baltic states are closely aligned with Turkey/Qatar, as is Pakistan. Azerbaijan is obviously just an extension of Turkey. The major states of the GCC depend on foreign and regional markets, including those of Russia, China, Iran, India, and Syria, so the collective West has been using Turkey/Qatar to weaken states such as Egypt and the KSA/UAE. By helping MB offshoots such as Hamas, Iran has aided Western plans.

Iran’s best interests lie in breaking ties with Turkey/Qatar and courting “secular” Sunni states such as Egypt and Tunisia, besides Syria, while reaching out to the KSA/UAE. After all, there are plenty of elements in the KSA/UAE that oppose conflict with Iran, cognisant of the fact that a war would be detrimental to the regional economy. Turkey is not an Arab state, has a different geographic configuration, and is formally part of NATO, so it has greater incentive to start a regional war on behalf of the West (including Israel). Obviously, the Saudi leadership is at odds with Iran on Yemen, but arguably much of the Saudi elite has more shared interests with the Iranian leadership than Turkey’s ruling class does. For example, Syria’s Assad himself, Iran’s closest non-Shia partner, has never criticised the KSA/UAE/Egypt to the same degree as Turkey/Qatar. Israel benefits far more from a Turkish-and-Qatari-sponsored MB takeover of the MENA than a continuation of the statist Sunni order in the GCC. Israel wants uncontrolled sectarianism and instability.

So I think that Iran has consistently gone too far in ostracising “secular” and/or statist Sunni leadership in the MENA. Instead it should recognise a potential convergence of interests. Iran should even offer to help the leaders of Egypt, the KSA/UAE, Tunisia, et al. resist potential regime-change efforts led by the Turkish-/Qatari-sponsored MB (and by extension the West/Israel). By siding with the MB Iran is undermining its own interests and actually encouraging the very dangers that it wishes to avert. There needs to be an alliance of states/actors such as Egypt, Tunisia, Haftar’s LNA (in Libya), Syria, Armenia, the KSA/UAE, and India vs. the Anglo-American-/Israeli-fronted Turkish, Qatari, and Pakistani regimes. Iran should instead focus on helping “secular” and/or statist Sunnis, along with Shias, rather than “populist” Sunni Islamists such as those of the MB.

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On 6/12/2022 at 5:50 AM, Northwest said:

I am not sure as to why Syria and Iran asked Russia for help in 2014–5, when it was clear that Russia has always been under Zionist control,

Russia's relationship with Jews and Israel is a long one and involves many historical complexities—lately Moscow seems to be setting a precedent by distancing itself more-and-more from Tel Aviv—watch this 6 min. clip by Richard Medhurst 'Russia & Iran Respond To Israeli Attack On Damascus Airport'  

 

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