Would you marry a Sister that did Zina?Do Shias do it?

[Lion of Shia]

If a Shia sister did zina would you marry her? Can you marry her? Are Shias more proneto zina then sunnis?

[Yusuf Shukur]

I"m sunni but I would marry a sister that has a past. That being said while I haven't committed zina since reverting I have drank alcohol.

[pseudonym]

This is somewhat irrelevant? 

Firstly since when are all people of any group exactly the same? each human is unique and can make their own decisions.

Most people are sinful and some times major sins are also committed, why wouldn't any fair minded person accept someone that repented and wanted to move on correctly with their lives.

[Panzerwaffe]

7 hours ago, Lion of Shia said:

If a Shia sister did zina would you marry her? Can you marry her? Are Shias more proneto zina then sunnis?

Yes … you can always divorce if you are not happy later 

[Uni Student]

personally no but thats just me

7 hours ago, Lion of Shia said:

Are Shias more prone to zina then sunnis?

what does this even mean

[Diaz]

38 minutes ago, Uni Student said:

what does this even mean

No offense to the op, but majority of the time he asks weird questions. 

[Uni Student]

6 hours ago, Diaz said:

No offense to the op, but majority of the time he asks weird questions. 

was going to say the same but did not want to be rude to the brother

[Lion of Shia]

22 hours ago, Diaz said:

No offense to the op, but majority of the time he asks weird questions. 

 

16 hours ago, Uni Student said:

was going to say the same but did not want to be rude to the brother

 If my questions sound strange,im not trying to be!!! but i was just asking an opinion about a topic to see what the feelings of the members of this forum is, thats all!!im not trying to be weird but it seems my topics get taken the wrong way!!!

[Uni Student]

On 3/1/2022 at 11:53 AM, Lion of Shia said:

Are Shias more proneto zina then sunnis?

 

9 hours ago, Lion of Shia said:

If my questions sound strange,im not trying to be!!! but i was just asking an opinion about a topic to see what the feelings of the members of this forum is, thats all!!im not trying to be weird but it seems my topics get taken the wrong way!!!

Lol i understand brother but where does the question above even come from. One can ask a question about anything in life but the question must have some sort of logic behind it or reasoning to be asked else it just becomes nonsense. Can i ask what you to ask that question? People telling you things, or your own conclusions?

[Cool]

On 3/2/2022 at 12:53 AM, Lion of Shia said:

If a Shia sister did zina would you marry her?

The question itself contains very limited information.

Obviously no one going to marry a female who is habitual of adultery. Here is the divine command:

الزَّانِي لَا يَنْكِحُ إِلَّا زَانِيَةً أَوْ مُشْرِكَةً وَالزَّانِيَةُ لَا يَنْكِحُهَا إِلَّا زَانٍ أَوْ مُشْرِكٌ ۚ وَحُرِّمَ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ

24:3) The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or idolatress, and (as for) the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater; and it is forbidden to the believers.

[Borntowitnesstruth]

On 3/2/2022 at 12:53 AM, Lion of Shia said:

Are Shias more proneto zina then sunnis?

What is meant by that?

[Muntazir e Mahdi]

Bismillah, salaam.

If a person has repented and improved themselves to follow the commandments of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) then if Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) accepts their repentance, what reason do I have not to? Besides, I'm certainly not timelessly infallible, so how can I hope to marry a person who is timelessly infallible? And even if I was, again, if Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) accepts their repentance, what reason do I have not to? Of course, as @Cool quoted from the Qur'an, someone who is habitual in this act is forbidden to us.

Wasalaam.

Edited March 3, 2022 by Muntazir e Mahdi
Grammar

[AbdusSibtayn]

If the sister has truly repented from her sin and vowed not to repeat it ever, I don't see a problem. Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is Merciful, and we should take after His sunnah. 

Let me take the opportunity to relate two relevant anecdotes in this connection, one concerned (if I can recall correctly) with Sayyid Abul Hassan Isfahānī (rh), and the other with Shaykh Muhammad Hussain Kāshif ul- Ghitā (rh), both of them extremely highly -regarded marjās of their time. 

Sayyid Isfahānī was visiting Hillah city in Iraq once, and a deluge of mu'minīn had thronged to receive him. Dignitaries of the town were all imploring him to halt at their place; however, the Sayyid heard a voice within- the voice said that it was from the Imām of the time (aj), and commanded him to stay at the place of such and such man, a most ordinary fellow by all means. The Sayyid did as directed, and once in the privacy of solitude, he confided to the man that he had received communication from the Sahib al-Asr (aj) to stay at his place, in preference over the houses of the ulama and the grandees of the city; he must surely have done something due to which the Imām (aj) is highly pleased with him. The man racked his memory, and confided to the Sayyid that early in their marriage, his wife had confessed to him that she had once done zina before their marriage, however she has sincerely repented, and vowed to devotedly serve her husband as kaffārā for her sin. The husband then forgave her. The marjā replied that this forgiveness was the reason for the Imām's happiness. 

Shaykh Kāshif ul- Ghitā (rh) had also had a similar experience. Once a drought had fallen over Iraq, and the mu'minīn implored the Shaykh for help. The Shaykh sought the tawassul of Amīr al-Mu'minīn (عليه السلام), and Amīr al-Mu'minīn (عليه السلام) visited the marjā in his dream, instructing him to go stay with a certain tea-seller in some nondescript village, and ask him to pray for rains. The Shaykh did accordingly, and the man's prayers were answered. The Shaykh then revealed his identity to the tea-seller, who was elated to have so esteemed a guest. Then he asked him a question which was similar to the one that Sayyid Isfahānī had asked the man in Hillah, and the tea-seller responded that on the first night of their marriage, his wife had told him that she had done zina before their marriage, and that she was even pregnant from that relationship; however,she had done sincere tawbāh, and now it was up to his choice to divorce her or not. The man decided to forgive the wife, and to bring up the child as his own. The Shaykh was elated, and told the man that it was because of his forgiveness towards the penitent wife that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) was so pleased with him, and had made him 'mustajāb ud-dā'wāt' (one whose prayers Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) never rejects). 

These two accounts should highlight to us the importance of forgiveness. 

Edited March 4, 2022 by AbdusSibtayn

[Guest guest]

19 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

These two accounts should highlight to us the importance of forgiveness. 

but in most cases, would such a thing be reasonable grounds for divorce? especially if this was not just something that was concealed but completely lied about when asked?

[notme]

16 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

but in most cases, would such a thing be reasonable grounds for divorce? especially if this was not just something that was concealed but completely lied about when asked?

You have to think about the reason someone would lie. Never trust a man or a woman who is in love. They will lie to preserve the relationship, at least 50% of people will. 

These questions need to be asked before there is emotional attachment.. And even then, an individual might fear for her reputation and lie to protect herself. 

I used to be pretty unforgiving of dishonesty, but after having children I've realized that it is human nature to try to protect yourself from harm. Sure, it damages trust if truth is revealed, but if truth never is revealed, the relationship and reputation are safe. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

1 hour ago, Guest guest said:

but in most cases, would such a thing be reasonable grounds for divorce? especially if this was not just something that was concealed but completely lied about when asked?

Jurisprudentially speaking, I am not sure if it would qualify as a solid reason for the spouse divorcing the unfaithful partner, whether or not the illicit relationship was revealed or concealed. I'll need to look this up. 

Thanks for raising this issue, though.