Russian invasion of Ukraine [Official Thread]

[Abu Nur]

7 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

Somebody famous (who Putin was mad at) was supposedly on the manifest of a small plane that crashed near Moscow? 

Yes, Yevgeny Prigozhin died in that plane crash. Unpredictable person who plays with fire in the time of war is serious threat to the country. He should have been put in court instead, but this crash indicates probably that someone from inside did it. In soviet time this would be a common thing. 

But I believe what he did is very horrible damage to Russian partners who trust Russia, this is something Putin can not accept. 

Edited August 24 by Abu Nur

[علوي]

On 8/24/2023 at 4:49 AM, Hameedeh said:

Somebody famous (who Putin was mad at) was supposedly on the manifest of a small plane that crashed near Moscow? 

Yevgeny Prigozhin, leader of Wagner PMC, was on a plane which crashed during its flight from Moscow to St Petersburg.

(Map source)

Prigozhin's Wagner, if you remember, was the group behind the failed "coup" back in June. 

After the plane crash was announced by Russian media, Western media (obviously) as well as Wagner-linked outlets immediately pinned the blame on the government of Russia. 

President Putin commented on the saga, sending his condolences to Prigozhin's family for the "tragedy". He also pointed out that Prigozhin had "made serious mistakes in life".

Apparently Reuters claimed that a SAM was fired at the aircraft (I couldn't find the original Reuters article), but it later reported that the US State Department dismissed such theories.

Nevertheless, the same outlet claimed that villagers from around the crash site "had heard a bang" before seeing "the jet plummet to the ground."

I think that had Putin been behind the death of Prigozhin, he wouldn't have offered his condolences to his family - (it's counterproductive). If he wanted to defy the Western claims (that he's losing his grip on Russia) by killing Prigozhin, surely calling it a "tragedy" and condoling his family is not the way to go about demonstrating his strength. 

Back in January, Prigozhin "laughed off claims of a [Ukrainian-CIA] plot to assassinate him," according to Sky News and The Jerusalem Post.

Wagner PMC has recently been in the spotlight when it comes to Africa's heightened relations with Russia, leading to US sanctions on the group.

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"It is very likely we will never exactly know what happened

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-25/yevgeny-prigozhin-crash-why-caution-is-needed/102773832

[Eddie Mecca]

'What Really Happened to Prigozhin? ALL YOU SHOULD KNOW (Richard Medhurst) 29 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqV6poHSLV4

[Northwest]

Ukraine has already breached the Russian lines near Robotnye and, Western (and Russian!) MSM notwithstanding, is making slow-but-steady progress. Sure, Ukraine’s advances are more piecemeal than the West would prefer, but by contrast Russia has not made a single successful counterstrike along the entire front. Its approach is entirely defensive and seems to be failing, as Ukraine not only overcomes heavily-mined defences, but also successfully interdicts munitions behind Russian lines and disrupts critical Russian infrastructure in Moscow, Crimea, and Donbas’.

Ukraine has not even brought most of its reserves forward, and is still training to properly deploy most of the equipment that it has received. (Ukraine until recently has largely relied on its Soviet-era stockpiles, so it needs time to learn how best to utilise the latest Western equipment, including fighter-jets.) So currently Ukraine is working on hobbling Russian infrastructure, so as to facilitate future advances in a year or so, when Ukraine will be fully ready. At that time I would anticipate some very significant gains. Therefore Ukraine is winning this war over time.

I’m not saying all this because I support the West, but because I am merely looking at the facts on the ground.

[Eddie Mecca]

'Dark Side of America's Relationship with Ukraine' PRAECURSATOR/a.k.a. Foreign Policy Hawk/a.k.a. Independent Islamic Republic...(6 min.)…words of wisdom from Qaddafi...Trump claims he can put a stop to the Ukraine war within a 24 hour period if elected in 2024...Liberal Democracy v. Traditionalist/Religious Worldview...European crimes committed in India and Algeria

 

 

[Haji 2003]

Excuse me? How are Canadian MPs celebrating a Ukrainian Nazi in the Canadian Parliament, Russian disinformation?

 

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

10 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Excuse me? How are Canadian MPs celebrating a Ukrainian Nazi in the Canadian Parliament, Russian disinformation?

Salam this is a five years old article anyway somehow has a relation to this action 

Trudeau Apologizes for Canada’s Turning Away Ship of Jews Fleeing Nazis

TORONTO — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau stood in Parliament on Wednesday and apologized for Canada’s decision to turn away a steamliner full of Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany on the eve of the Holocaust 79 years ago, saying it reflected years of regrettable anti-Semitic foreign policy.

 

Since he was elected three years ago, Mr. Trudeau has made apologizing a regular ritual, even by Canadian standards.

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The apologies, in large part, are a reflection of the country’s continued struggle to atone for its colonial and racist past, particularly when it comes to its treatment of First Nations people.

Canadians today tend to think of their country as compassionate and tolerant. But its position on Jewish refugees before, during and after the war was infamously articulated by one government official at the time: None is too many.

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Britain accepted 70,000 Jewish refugees between the rise of Hitler in Germany in 1933 and the end of the war in 1945. The United States took in 200,000. Vast and underpopulated Canada accepted 5,000.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/07/world/canada/trudeau-apology-jews-st-louis.html

 

[Haji 2003]

Peterson speaks

 

[Haji 2003]

 

[Son of Placid]

On 9/26/2023 at 1:02 PM, Haji 2003 said:

Russian disinformation?

Trudeau makes it embarrassing to be Canadian. 
No legal way to get rid of him.
It seems all NATO countries are having a few problems.

[Northwest]

Regarding “Nazis” in Ukraine and/or Russia: I feel that this trope is being recycled indiscriminately on both sides. Putin keeps calling his Ukrainian opponents “Nazis,” while Zelensky calls Putin and his backers new “Hitlers.” Zionist (especially “right-wing”) “Jews” control Putin and liberal-globalist “Jews” run Zelensky. Both sides promote the official narrative, whether truthful, partly so, or not, about the Holocaust. Personally I don’t believe that there are many sincere “Nazis” in Ukraine. A lot of the Ukrainian “Nazis” turn out to have little in common with the original Nazis, being Satan-worshipping drug-addicts and sexual deviants, constituencies Hitler and his movement violently suppressed. As for the “Jews,” well, they don’t really believe in or practice their orthodox religious tenets.

The thing is, because Putin supports Zionist vs. globalist “Jews,” he is unable to effectively promote Russian nationalism vs. Ukrainian, because to do so would require a revival of the old Czarist formula Autocracy, Orthodoxy, and Nationality (Russian Orthodox Imperium), which would be bad for the Zionist “Jews.” So Putin splits the middle and allows fellow Slavs to be killed, without giving his side enough support to win decisively, but enough to prevent a complete defeat, which would be bad politically for Putin. Zelensky himself can live with this arrangement, because his worst enemies—anti-globalist, anti-Zionist Russian Orthodox Christian nationalists—are being effectively handicapped by Putin, who does not want these forces to gain a total victory in Ukraine (and hence in Moscow, à la the Wagner Group).

Back in 2022 Medvedev effectively asserted that Russia would respond with a nuclear strike if its Black Sea Fleet (BSF) base in Crimea were hit by Ukraine. During the recent Ukrainian strike on the BSF the Russian commander was killed, which can be verified through the dating of known videos (Russia lied by claiming that the footage was filmed after the strike). So Russia just allowed NATO and Co. to commit an act of war by assassinating its top naval commander in Crimea and did nothing about it.

[Haji 2003]

Not a surprise

 

[Diaz]

4 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Not a surprise

 

They r losing that’s why, I hope Russia do the right thing 

[Haji 2003]

4 minutes ago, Diaz said:

They r losing that’s why, I hope Russia do the right thing 

Going by their previous announcements, you'd have expected they would hang around longer. But the only people with real skin in the game were the Ukrainians.

No doubt they'll be understandably upset, given the sacrifices that they have had to make.

[علوي]

Preying on children: Olena Zelenska foundation involved in child trafficking schemes 

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·       “Olena Zelenska emphasized her caring attitude towards Ukrainian children and confessed her sincere desire to save Ukrainian orphans from the war in many interviews. In February, 2023 she proclaimed that her Foundation is involved in transporting children abroad in the interview to Australian Financial Review. „We had to evacuate a lot of children from orphanages to other parts of Ukraine and abroad,“ Zelenska said.”

·       “Recently, we obtained a video of a confession of a French speaking employee of the Olena Zelenska Foundation. He tells that he became a witness and an unwilling co-conspirator of disgusting crimes against children committed on behalf of the Foundation.”

https://www.theinteldrop.org/2023/11/05/preying-on-children-olena-zelenska-foundation-involved-in-child-trafficking-schemes/

[Eddie Mecca]

America leaving her side piece (Ukraine) and going back to ex-wife (Israel)...so long sucker (Zelensky)…Where's Sean Penn and John Stewart? Zelensky can be the new host of the Daily Show...If the Azov Battalion literally hang Zelensky from a tree mainstream media will find a way to blame Hamas for it

'Jimmy Dore PROVEN RIGHT AGAIN As U.S. Tells Zelensky To Negotiate Peace' (23 minutes)

 

Edited November 11 by Eddie Mecca

[Eddie Mecca]

 

Chairman of the Libertarian faction of Israel's ruling Likud party Amir Weitman threatens Russia for supporting Hamas..."Russia will pay the price" (1 minute 30 seconds)