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Poll reveals level of Russian public’s confidence in Putin

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"When asked about trust in Putin, 80.1% of respondents answered positively (-0.3% over the week), the approval rate of the Russian president's work was 76.5% (-0.4 % over the week)," the pollsters noted.

Positive assessment figures for the Prime Minister and the Russian government stood at 53.1% (+0.7%) and 50.3% (-1.8%), respectively," the report stressed. Mikhail Mishustin was trusted by 63.4% of respondents (+0.9% over the week).

https://tass.com/society/1532179

 

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THE WEST (INCLUDING UKRAINE) VOTES AGAINST CONDEMNING NAZISM AT UN ASSEMBLY

A few hours ago, the UN had its annual vote to condemn Nazism. Just like last time, the US and Ukraine voted against it. But this time, the entire West voted against it too. 

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Just take a second to process this. You won't hear about this in the Western media.

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5 hours ago, -Rejector- said:

THE WEST (INCLUDING UKRAINE) VOTES AGAINST CONDEMNING NAZISM AT UN ASSEMBLY

A few hours ago, the UN had its annual vote to condemn Nazism. Just like last time, the US and Ukraine voted against it. But this time, the entire West voted against it too. 

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Just take a second to process this. You won't hear about this in the Western media.

Maybe next time they should vote against the whole racism and racial profiling that happened many times in history, not just Hitler Germany. By the way, Hitler was following schools of racist retarded thoughts that started way before him. The biggest problem of the "Nazi" movement, is the apartheid mentality that was eugenic in nature, where there are rights and moral blame based on tribal affiliations, and let me tell you the Jews aren't the only ones targeted here. Anybody who is not like them basically. It's a relative of takfiri retardation. Shall we can it Takfirded mentality. Makes people Takfirded in the head with all kinds of false superiority complexes, that actually ironically stem from deep inferiority and childlike fear and hunger for love. Sad souls they are those "racists". 

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On 10/29/2022 at 3:10 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

All of Ukraine is Russian territory...technically it all belongs to Russia...it was originally part of the Tsarist Russian Empire. 

Kievan Rus' consisted of various territories and peoples, including Eastern Slavic, Norse etc. and it was founded in the late 9th century. The modern nations of Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine all claim Kievan Rus' as their cultural ancestor. Ukraine became an orphan and playground for NATO when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.

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Iran’s FM: Tehran sent limited number of drones to Russia months before Ukraine war

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Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian has dismissed media controversy over Iran’s alleged support for Russia in the Ukraine war, assuring that Iran will not be indifferent if it is proven that Russia has used Iranian drones in the conflict.
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“Our relations with Russia are based on neighborhood and mutual interests. I would like to emphasize here that the fuss made by some western countries that Iran has provided Russia with missiles and drones to help it in the Ukraine war, claims about the missile part is completely wrong and the drone part is correct,” he said.

But he hastened to add that Iran has provided Russia with a limited number of drones months before the war in Ukraine.

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/11/05/692188/Iran-FM-Iran-sent-limited-number-drones-Russia-months-before-war

 

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Kiev preparing plan to evacuate 3 million people – official

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Authorities in Ukraine’s capital city, Kiev, are reportedly working on a contingency plan that anticipates the evacuation of approximately three million of its remaining residents, should power supply become completely cut off, a local official has told The New York Times.

https://www.rt.com/russia/566024-media-kiev-prepares-three-million-evacuation/

 

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Top White House official held undisclosed talks with Russia – WSJ

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US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan has been engaged in behind-the-scenes contacts with senior Russian officials in a bid to decrease the chances of a broader conflict over Ukraine, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday, citing its sources.

https://www.rt.com/russia/566051-us-russia-talks-ukraine-sullivan/

The only option left: begging Putin for mercy.

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Ukrainian can't bring himself to say that Iran could have made something without Russian help ...

 

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Vasyl, who has been involved in pulling apart the drones, said the technical quality of the drones was surprisingly good. “We think that Russian specialists were involved but that’s just a theory,” he said, commenting on how Iran was able to develop the drones despite being under sanctions for decades. “Either the Iranians went [to Russia] or they have Russian specialists working there.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/10/iranian-made-drones-supplied-to-russia-after-february-invasion-says-ukraine

 

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Iran had managed to manufacture replicas of many components originally produced in the west, such as an exact copy of a well-known German engine.

Producing replicas of an engine isn't a matter of just copying, you have to get the technical specs and performance parameters right as well.

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Russian troops withdraw from Kherson

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Russia has decided to withdraw its troops from the right bank of the Dnieper River, including the regional capital of Kherson. The Defense Ministry explained that it wants to avoid unnecessary losses among its forces and spare the lives of civilians.

https://www.rt.com/russia/565869-russia-withdrawal-troops-kherson/

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While Russian forces have successfully defended the city until now, even the slightest possibility of Ukrainian forces overwhelming Russian troops on the wrong side of the river would result in a defeat of historic proportions. Russia has now eliminated that possibility.
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Ukraine fights for today’s headlines, Russia is fighting to win the long war.

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On 10/30/2022 at 6:52 AM, Haji 2003 said:

We are entering a game of chicken here and it's becoming a matter of who will blink first.

One group of people believe that it will be the West (and who are encouraging the West to come to a compromise) but another group of people believe it will be Russia and that it should see the light and de-escalate.

I fall into the former camp and you seem to fall into the latter.

I grew up reading the Sunday Times in the 1980s which taught us that NATO doctrine was the first use of battlefield nuclear weapons which was entirely rational / reasonable because the Soviets had so many conventional weapons. 

I believe that the Ukrainians are better in terms of tactics, weapons and morale. The first two are courtesy of NATO and the last is Ukrainians defending their homeland.

So my perspective on the current war simply reverses the roles that existed in the 1980s.

I think the Russians will be the first to use battlefield nuclear weapons and if we escalate, I think the Russians will move onto tertiary European cities.

Underlying my view is my personal belief that while western Europeans believe that we defeated Hitler, the scale of the loss and suffering the Soviets put up with was beyond measure compared to anything in the West.

They will not blink first.

I don't see it as a matter of who blinks first. I think it's a matter of what's best for Russia. 

Russia has made a giant blunder with this invasion of a brother nation. And all we can do is just sit around and watch them slug it out. 

Could anyone really imagine how much of a social pariah Russia would be if it used a nuclear weapon? Aside from escalation resulting in more danger to its own people, Russia's economy would just go down the tube. There would be no benefit to Russia to escalate. And I certainly don't see Russia attempting to attack other European nations. 

The best thing that they can do is just slug it out in the Donbas/crimea until both sides get tired, they work up some kind of agreement, Putin retires in some lake-side mansion somewhere in the east, and everyone then moves forward with rebuilding relations and economic agreements. The war goes down in history books, people write down their side of the story. And everyone moves on with life. 

And Russia destroyed all the neonazis of meriopul anyway. They could easily walk away today and call it a mission complete. It's just not reasonable for them to escalate and I don't think they're unreasonable people. 

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On 11/5/2022 at 10:07 PM, -Rejector- said:

THE WEST (INCLUDING UKRAINE) VOTES AGAINST CONDEMNING NAZISM AT UN ASSEMBLY

A few hours ago, the UN had its annual vote to condemn Nazism. Just like last time, the US and Ukraine voted against it. But this time, the entire West voted against it too. 

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Just take a second to process this. You won't hear about this in the Western media.

 

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5 hours ago, iCenozoic said:

Russia has made a giant blunder with this invasion of a brother nation.

It's not a "brother nation"...it's a part of Russia...all throughout the 70 year lifespan (1921 - 1991) of the Soviet Union it was a part of Russia...all throughout the history of Tsarist Russian Empire (i.e. Imperial Russia) it was integrally a part of Russia...going as far back as the 9th century...Kievan Rus' (for crying out loud it has both countries in the name itself...i.e. 1.) Kievan = Kiev or Kyiv= capital of Ukraine and 2.) Rus' = Rus' people i.e. Old East Slavic Peoples = Modern Belarusian, Russian and Ukrainian peoples)…the northern 66% of Kievan Rus' morphed into what’s now commonly referred to as 'Russia'...southern and western 34% of Kievan Rus' moved in the direction of what's now called 'Ukraine' and 'Belarus'...every time Western nations want to redraw the map we have submit and obey without questioning anything? And yes, I still consider Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan to be one national identity and one state entity...I'm not buying into the whole French and British rearrangement of borders every 30 years to reinforce hegemony and usurping of natural resources thing.

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@kadhim, Yeah, you're right...Russia has no legitimate claims on Ukraine...none whatsoever...hand Ukraine on a silver platter to the Anglo Saxons...Ukraine belongs to NATO...actually make it the 51st state of the union while you're at it...Ukraine is part of NW Europe and North America (sarcasm).

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@kadhim, And one day in the immediate or distant future the Muslims will reclaim/reconquer Spain, Italy and France...Imam Mahdi (a) will pick up where the Umayyads, Fatimids etc. left off...'Why Is A Nazi Collaborator Ukraine's National Hero?' / Scott Ritter & Richard Medhurst (4 min)

 

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7 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

@kadhim, Yeah, you're right...Russia has no legitimate claims on Ukraine...none whatsoever...hand Ukraine on a silver platter to the Anglo Saxons...Ukraine belongs to NATO...actually make it the 51st state of the union while you're at it...Ukraine is part of NW Europe and North America (sarcasm).

So when exactly was it that you decided to become a Zionist?

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Ukrainian shelling damages school building in DPR settlement

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A school and a cultural center were damaged in a Ukrainian shelling attack on the Rozovka settlement in the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), the DPR mission to the Joint Center for Control and Coordination said on Telegram on Friday.

https://tass.com/politics/1535491

 

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Ukrainian authorities order curfew in Kherson

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Yaroslav Yanushevich, chief of Ukraine’s Kherson regional military administration, said[:]

"We have to impose a curfew starting today, from 5 p.m. to 8 a.m...."

"I would also like to inform you that coming into the city and leaving it will be restricted to ensure demining activities," he added.

On Friday, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky announced that the Ukrainian authorities had no intention of allowing journalists into Kherson under the pretext of demining.

https://tass.com/world/1535753

Interesting. Why so scared to let reporters in to Kherson, Zelensky?

Could it be because of this? Or am I a Putin propagandist?

 

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Another Ukrainian soldier spotted with Nazi insignia

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Footage of a Ukrainian soldier, wearing the insignia of a notorious SS brigade, emerged online this week, as the Kiev forces moved towards the city of Kherson following withdrawal of the Russian troops. 

The videos, presumably posted online by the soldier himself, show the Ukrainian fighter sporting on his helmet the patch with two crossed stick hand grenades – the emblem of Dirlewanger Brigade, known for mass murder of civilians and other war crimes committed during World War II.

https://www.rt.com/russia/566414-ukraine-nazi-insignia-soldiers/

Just keeps getting clearer and clearer.

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Poland calls emergency security meeting after claim about missiles

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Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has called an emergency meeting of the government’s national security and defense committee amid reports of a deadly strike near the nation’s border with Ukraine.

Poland is understood to have scrambled fighter jets in the wake of the reports that two people had been killed in an “explosion” allegedly caused by a missile strike. The Polish military and prosecutors have arrived at the scene of the blast, Visegrad 24 reports.

Russia's Mash Telegram channel has published a photo of what it said is a fragment from an S-300 defence system missile. This Soviet-era equipment is used by Ukraine.

Meanwhile, other sources have pointed the finger at Russia. Moscow fired dozens of missiles at Ukraine earlier on Wednesday

https://www.rt.com/news/566586-poland-missile-emergency/

Russia denies striking Poland

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Missile fragments, whose photos were published by the Polish media on the scene, “have nothing to do with Russian weapons,” the Russian Defense Ministry said. Russia has carried out no strikes on the area along Ukraine’s border with Poland, the military added. 

https://www.rt.com/russia/566589-russia-no-strikes-on-poland/

Pentagon responds to reports about Russian missiles landing in Poland

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The US military are “aware” of reports about Russian missiles supposedly hitting Polish territory and killing two people but have no evidence to confirm them, Pentagon spokesman Air Force Brigadier General Patrick Ryder told reporters on Tuesday.
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The Polish authorities did not confirm these reports, while government spokesman Piotr Mueller called on media and the public “not to publish unconfirmed information.”

The incident occurred amid a large-scale missile attack that Russia launched at Ukraine. The Ukrainian Energy Minister German Galushenko called it the “most massive shelling of [Ukraine’s] energy system since the beginning of the war.” President Vladimir Zelensky earlier said that at least 85 missiles had been launched at Ukraine.

https://www.rt.com/news/566588-pentagon-cannot-confirm-missile-poland/

 

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4 hours ago, -Rejector- said:

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I don't think so. The article does make only sense if Nato sees that attacking will benefit themselves, but in this case it will be very risky. They have already said they don't want to invade Russia, so mostly they will keep it as proxy war. 

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NATO says Ukrainian S-300 missile fell in Poland, but blames Russia

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A preliminary NATO assessment showed that an S-300 missile that fell in Poland was Ukrainian, but it was not Kiev's fault as Russia was responsible for the incident, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on Wednesday...

https://tass.com/world/1537741

The comedy keeps getting better and better every time :hahaha:

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Russia’s UN envoy says Poland, Ukraine sought to trigger Russia-NATO conflict over missile

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Russia’s UN envoy Vasily Nebenzya on Wednesday said statements by Warsaw and Kiev sought to trigger a direct Russia-NATO conflict over the missile incident in Poland.

"If this meeting hadn’t been scheduled, it would have had to be convened to discuss the attempts of Ukraine and Poland to provoke a direct clash between Russia and NATO. The absolutely irresponsible statements made by the leadership of these two countries cannot be perceived in any other way," he said at a meeting of the UN Security Council.

Nebenzya said Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky immediately after the explosion in Poland accused Russia of the shelling.

https://tass.com/politics/1537945

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13 hours ago, Son of Placid said:

I hear from various sources that Putin is pulling back and the next day the mainstream media is saying he is surrendering. Somehow Ukraine is winning this war?

There's a difference between a temporary withdrawal and a retreat. The Russians withdrew from Kherson because they were worried that the Ukrainian military would bomb the Nova Kakhovka dam, thus preventing energy from the civilians of Kherson and the Russian military. Furthermore, the Ukrainians also had their last weapons from the West that they were going to use. There was still a threat of the Ukrainians starting a new Kherson offensive (since the last one failed) and taking some Russians as prisoners of war (POWs). 

To prevent this threat, the Russians decided to play safe and withdraw from Kherson. This way, not only would they preserve their troops, but they could continue inflicting damage on the Ukrainian troops from long-distance. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_DeH3-H4SQ

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Russian Embassy in Poland attacked – Moscow

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Russia’s embassy in Warsaw was attacked by unknown culprits last week, the Foreign Ministry’s deputy spokesman said on Thursday, adding that Moscow demands that Poland open an investigation into the matter.
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Meanwhile, the Polish police were just “passively watching” without making any attempt to apprehend the offenders, the official claimed. 

https://www.rt.com/news/566709-russian-embassy-poland-attack/

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CNN Banned From Ukraine After Clumsily Showing Heil Hitler Salute (Jimmy Dore) 12 min.

 

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@kadhim, ^^^ He was doing the Arnold Horshack "MISTA KOTTA OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH! OOH!" 

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Biden mistakes Kherson for Iraq's Fallujah - YouTube

Fallujah Or Kherson? Here's How Biden Continued

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxci5QjDh5M

In latest gaffe;

VIDEO: Biden says Russia pulling out of ‘Fallujah’

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/193492/VIDEO-Biden-says-Russia-pulling-out-of-Fallujah

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Watch Joe Biden mixing up Ukraine’s Kherson with Iraqi city of Fallujah in 79-year-old president’s latest slip

Lydia Chantler-Hicks
10 November 2022·2-min read
 
 

Joe Biden has muddled the Ukrainian city of Kherson with the Iraqi city of Fallujah in his latest on-air gaffe.

The 79-year-old’s mix-up came as he discussed the results of America’s midterm elections with reporters gathered at the White House on Wednesday night.

News broke on Wednesday evening that the Russian military has been ordered to pull out of Kherson - the only regional capital it has captured since invading Ukraine in February - marking a major setback for the Kremlin.

Responding to a reporter’s question about Russia’s withdrawal, Mr Biden said: “I think the context is that...whether or not they’re pulling back from Fallujah.”

Realising his mistake, he added: “I mean from the...the...Kherson...the city of Kherson...and they’re coming back across the river to the eastern side of the river, the Russian forces.”

He went on to say he believes both sides of the conflict will “lick their wounds” before deciding “what they’re going to do over the winter, and decide whether or not they’re going to compromise”.”

 

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Fallujah is a city in the Iraqi province of Al Anbar, about 70km west of the country’s capital, Baghdad.

Another said: “And he caught himself. So what? He clearly knew the military situation he was talking about.

Mr Biden has publicly muddled Ukraine and Iraq several times since Russia’s war broke out, drawing criticism including from Americans for whom the Iraq War, which ended in 2011 and saw thousands of US soldiers die, is still a raw memory.

Last week, while campaigning in Florida ahead of the midterm elections, he referred to “the war in Iraq an the impact on oil” before adding “excuse me - the war in Ukraine”.

Mr Biden’s most recent gaffe has attracted criticism on social media, where users have called it a “trainwreck” and “embarrassing”.

Others defended the president. Lori Kimble said: “We all mis-speak from time to time. Focusing on one slip-up in over an hour worth of material is a disservice.”

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/watch-joe-biden-mixing-ukraine-081356498.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANTN6qnajk-9Mm-7PR1L49Gmwm9xuJno5OYhlxhBd2uR3dGqg_kwFbC8CEXbYUeLAKm-vGfCZQb0RqArI5fKmmXe3WhSkekX2GRv3H2wUt0qTCcqhHyPNGETHLGPFV9gJHmQd97UECxS8HFuYDqLAMFWVyqx1ht7T_el2WJ_Mwu-

https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/the-biden-blunders-us-president-accidentally-says-russia-withdrawing-from-fallujah-articleshow.html

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Fallujah Land’: Iraq’s Anbar province rebuilds after Isis

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Infamous as a hotbed of Sunni resistance during the US-led occupation and later a stronghold for al-Qaeda and then Isis, a tentative security has returned to Anbar, Iraq’s largest province.

 

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More than 10,000 American, British and Iraqi troops battled insurgents in Fallujah city in 2004. Sunni extremists al-Qaeda later over-ran Anbar, defeated by a tribal alliance in 2006. But Anbar then fell to Isis in 2014. An estimated 20,400 people in Anbar were killed between 2003 and 2017, according to the Iraq Body Count database, out of about 200,000 deaths in the whole country.

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Biden: “Whether or not [the Russians are] pulling back from Fallujah and the, I mean...”

Reporter: “Kherson.”


Biden: “Kherson, the city of Kherson.” pic.twitter.com/bYmT5VZ2mQ

— Israel & USA forever (@israelUSAforeve) November 9, 2022

A video of Biden confusing Kherson for Fallujah has garnered multiple reactions. One user wrote: “He doesn’t even know what day it is.” “He doesn’t even know which war he’s referring to. Jesus,” another user wrote while referencing the United States’ invasion of Iraq. A third user wrote: “God help us."

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the time he shocked Israelis after he spoke on the “honor of the Holocaust” instead of “horror.”  

 

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The Kherson-Fallujah gaffe isn’t the first time Biden has stumbled over words. Previously, he claimed in a moment of confusion that the US has 54 states. Before that, he mispronounced the name of the prime minister of the United Kingdom and accidentally called him ‘Rashee Sanook’. Earlier this month, he also spelled out dot while reading the name of a government website, and called VP Kamala Harris “a great president” while wishing her a happy birthday. The list goes even further, including the time he shocked Israelis after he spoke on the “honor of the Holocaust” instead of “horror.”  

 

https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/the-biden-blunders-us-president-accidentally-says-russia-withdrawing-from-fallujah-articleshow.html

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In Fallujah fight, top Shiite cleric calls for restraint toward Sunni civilians

Iraqi troops clear ISIS mines as battle for Fallujah continues

Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, whose 2014 fatwa prompted tens of thousands of Shiite militiamen to fight ISIS, now calls for them to respect 'ethics of jihad.'

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“Don’t be extreme … don’t be treacherous,” said Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, who commands a massive following and effectively recruited tens of thousands of the Shiite militiamen that have been fighting IS. “Don’t kill an old man, nor a boy, nor a woman.... Don’t cut a tree unless you have to.”

Mr. Sistani’s call to respect the “ethics of jihad,” by invoking the words of the Muslim Prophet Mohammad, signals his desire both to calm Iraq’s sectarian fires and to lessen anti-Shiite propaganda.

'These are not allies': The most potent force fighting ISIS in Iraq has been accused of torturing and executing civilians

https://www.businessinsider.com/shia-militias-torturing-civilians-fallujah-2016-6

 

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But fears have grown among Sunnis in the city fanned by social media and commentary – that the Shiite militias could repeat past atrocities and engage in revenge killings.

“The government’s blessing of the involvement of Shia militias in the fight against IS has further confirmed its bias in the eyes of Sunnis,” wrote Lina Khatib, head of the Middle East and North Africa program at the Chatham House think tank in London, in an analysis for CNN.

“For those Sunnis in Fallujah who back IS, the involvement of Shia militias will drive them even closer to IS,” says Ms. Khatib. “While for those … who do not support IS, being liberated from it at the hands of Shia militias is a case of removing one tyrant to be replaced by another.”

 

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'PM is aware of the ramifications'

Expelling Sunni extremists has been part of Fallujah’s history since 2004, when the US military cleared the city of Al Qaeda in fierce door-to-door combat, which left the city in ruins. Back then, US officers noted that the city, just west of Baghdad, had become an insurgent center for making suicide car bombs to strike the capital, and for kidnapping and extortion.

For the Iraqi forces today, Fallujah plays a similar role of threatening Baghdad, which in recent weeks has been struck by a spate of suicide car bombs, killing more than 200. This bid to recapture Fallujah is the latest in a chain of advances against IS in Iraq and Syria, which has seen the jihadists lose control of significant swaths of territory in the past year – including in December the provincial capital of Ramadi, which was largely wrecked in the process.

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2016/0601/In-Fallujah-fight-top-Shiite-cleric-calls-for-restraint-toward-Sunni-civilians

https://www.toledoblade.com/World/2016/06/18/Iraqi-troops-clear-ISIS-mines-as-battle-for-Fallujah-continues/stories/feed/index.rss

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