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It's common people may perhaps have worldly goals they want to make effort for . I'm sure there's people wanting nice house , nice vehicle , etc . But how miserable are you once you had committed a major sin ? When a person commits zina his or her life is destroyed with God and everything . They are damned and miserable and their akhirah is damned too . To stay perfectly clean and pure forever without ever sinning is the life we should make an effort to live . The best happiness is living a completely sinless life and having a completely sinless mind and never making sins in our heart or outwardly at any moment or place or range of time until death. The best and totally better goal to make an effort for is to be sinless every moment both inwardly and outwardly all the way until death and to be able to achieve spiritual ectasy in worshipping God and have the best of knowledge . The best goal is to be able to worship God all night and be strong enough to pray 100 rakat . Let's work for this aim and put our entire life for it . Because I've heard stories of people who ruined their life and died on their life .

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Salam,

We need to ask Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to give us that abilities to be sinless.  Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)  made Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) sinless.  We need to show sincere effort that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will give His protection and strength to not sinning.

We need to make 24 hours of our life as ibadah, not only 100 rakaat at night.  Not many has that abilities to perform 100 rakaat at night.  However, to make 24 of hour time as ibadah would be better and highly recommended.  So our walking, eating, working, sleeping ...all as ibadah or worship Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

When we worship...like we are not sinning.

Wallahualam.

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On 12/7/2021 at 8:10 AM, layman said:

We need to make 24 hours of our life as ibadah, not only 100 rakaat at night.  Not many has that abilities to perform 100 rakaat at night.  However, to make 24 of hour time as ibadah would be better and highly recommended.  So our walking, eating, working, sleeping ...all as ibadah or worship Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

Hey love this!  Life is worship, 24/7 worshipping God.  Each action, each word, each thought, each desire focused on God and his character.  What a joy, what an exciting and wonderful prospect - heaven on earth!

Of course this will not make us sinless - for all have sinned and don't live up to the standard of honour God has set.  Each day I do things that when I think of God's honour and glory, I feel ashamed.  Yet, God in his mercy and grace accepts us with our shame and reclothes us with his robe of rightiousness.  He takes those of us who have commited acts which destroy our lives and restores us and makes us new through Jesus the Messiah, who died as our shame bearer.

The Trustworthy Injil says in 2 Corinthians chapter 5 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, that person is a new creation the old has gone, the new is here! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ.

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3 hours ago, Dave follower of The Way said:

Hey love this!  Life is worship, 24/7 worshipping God.  Each action, each word, each thought, each desire focused on God and his character.  What a joy, what an exciting and wonderful prospect - heaven on earth!

 

In Dua Kumayl, a prayer passed down from Khidr (عليه السلام) to Imam Ali (عليه السلام) to his great companion withholding many secrets - Kumayl, we find:

يَا رَبِّ يَا رَبِّ يَا رَبِّ

ya rab-bi ya ya rab-bi ya rabb

My Lord! My Lord! My Lord!

 

أَسْألُكَ بِحَقِّكَ وَقُدْسِكَ

as-aluka bi-haq-qika wa qud-sik

I ask You by Your Truth and Your Holiness

 

وَأَعْظَمِ صِفَاتِكَ وَأَسْمَائِكَ

wa a`zami sifatika wa as-ma-ika

And the greatest of Your Attributes and Names,

 

أن تَجْعَلَ أَوْقَاتِي فِي اللَّيلِ وَالنَّهَارِ بِذِكْرِكَ مَعْمُورَةً،

an taj-`ala aw-qati fil-layli wan-nahari bi-dhik-rika ma`murah

That You makest my times in the night and the day inhabited by Your remembrance,

 

وَبِخِدْمَتِكَ مَوْصُولَةً،

wa bikhid-matika maw-sulah

And joined to Your service

 

وَّأَعْمَاِلي عِنْدَكَ مَقْبُولَةً،

wa a`mali i'ndaka maq-bulah

And my works acceptable to You,

 

حَتَّى تَكُونَ أَعْمَاِلي وَأَوْرَادِي كُلُّهَا وِرْداً وَّاحِداً،

hat-ta takuna a`mali wa aw-radi kul-luha wir-daw-wahidan

So that my works and my litanies may all be a single litany

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Dave follower of The Way said:

 

Of course this will not make us sinless - for all have sinned and don't live up to the standard of honour God has set.  Each day I do things that when I think of God's honour and glory, I feel ashamed.  Yet, God in his mercy and grace accepts us with our shame and reclothes us with his robe of rightiousness. 

 

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@layman this is an amazing thought.  As we focus on God we recieve from him and become more like him.  Thans for posting this!

It would seem that sometimes there is something between us and God a veil or curtain which gets in the way so we are distracted or unable to focus on God clearly.

In the Injil we read 2 Corinthians chapter 3

16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

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5 hours ago, Dave follower of The Way said:

@layman this is an amazing thought.  As we focus on God we recieve from him and become more like him.  Thans for posting this!

It would seem that sometimes there is something between us and God a veil or curtain which gets in the way so we are distracted or unable to focus on God clearly.

In the Injil we read 2 Corinthians chapter 3

16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

@Dave follower of The Way

We must view from top to the bottom to get a clear understanding of the veil, or source of distraction.

1.  GOD The HIGHEST (The ONE)

2. His Representatives to humans (Prophets and Selected Leaders.)...intermediate level

3. Then Us, at the bottom level.

We believe that Spirit of God is from Him and is attached to those at the level of #2.  Spirit of God contains His Holy Names and Pure.

So all those at level #2, their souls are Pure and protected and has Spirit of God in them.

Those pure souls will bring the messages of guidance from God to us.  It will not be a formal type...like Injin or Qur'an.  Without continuous messages of guidance,  humans will be in loss.

We are ever dependent on those at level #2 in order to get connected to God.  Those at level #2, are chosen by God and they are 100% doing what God instructs them to do.

Those pure souls will connect with our souls (no pure) if we have pure intention to be with God.

For a Christian, he/she must connect to Jesus (عليه السلام) and the get connected to God.

For Muslims, we must get connected to Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) to get connected to God.  Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is also connected to all Prophets and all humans.

The real veil is when we are not connected to those at level #2.

Muslims considered Christian as Brothers in Faith because Jesus (عليه السلام) is also connected to our Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).  We believe that sincere Christians are not veiled from God or His guidance because of connection that already existed between Prophet Jesus (عليه السلام) and Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم). We can see some similarities of messages of guidance between two groups.

Wallahualam 

 

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On 1/26/2022 at 3:25 AM, layman said:

1.  GOD The HIGHEST (The ONE)

2. His Representatives to humans (Prophets and Selected Leaders.)...intermediate level

3. Then Us, at the bottom level.

This is helpful to see how you see the relationship between God and people.  I appreciate your comment that "Muslims considered Christian as Brothers in Faith "

My understanding of the passage I quote from the Injil is that God and the Spirit of God are one.  So when the Spirit of God comes to us at level 3 it is God who removes the vail.  Then without any intermedary we get to 'see' God.  I can have a closeness to God so that his light and purity reflect from me and shine out from me, more and more each day.

I see the Biblical understanding that there isn't three levels but Just God and people.  Each person is on a journey some are far from God, maybe even with their backs to him moving away.  Others are moving closer and knowing him better and deeper each day.  God the Holy Spirit works in our hearts and minds to help us love and live for him.  Jesus the Messiah, through his death and resurrection, is God opening the way for us to know him intimately and to be made clean and honoured by joining his family.

It is as if Jesus the Messiah is God turning us around.  Changing us from those moving away from God to those moving towards him.

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12 hours ago, Dave follower of The Way said:

This is helpful to see how you see the relationship between God and people.  I appreciate your comment that "Muslims considered Christian as Brothers in Faith "

My understanding of the passage I quote from the Injil is that God and the Spirit of God are one.  So when the Spirit of God comes to us at level 3 it is God who removes the vail.  Then without any intermedary we get to 'see' God.  I can have a closeness to God so that his light and purity reflect from me and shine out from me, more and more each day.

I see the Biblical understanding that there isn't three levels but Just God and people.  Each person is on a journey some are far from God, maybe even with their backs to him moving away.  Others are moving closer and knowing him better and deeper each day.  God the Holy Spirit works in our hearts and minds to help us love and live for him.  Jesus the Messiah, through his death and resurrection, is God opening the way for us to know him intimately and to be made clean and honoured by joining his family.

It is as if Jesus the Messiah is God turning us around.  Changing us from those moving away from God to those moving towards him.

@Dave follower of The Way sorry for my long post.

To come into existence and be alive as a human, we need a Spirit from God. God created the body and put a spirit from Him into it, and we are alive.  However, God is not a Spirit.

Once we are alive, we need to return to God in a guided manner, and who will guide us?.  God created His Representatives (Prophets, Imams or Leaders) to guide us. God gives them knowledge to guide from the first human (non Prophet) to the last born human (all of us) on this earth. Therefore, we have many Representatives of God.

To make it easier to understand the roles of the Prophets or His Representatives, it is just like a "parent to new born child".  The relationship is God's giving nature between a mother to her baby, until the baby grow up, live for span of time and die.  The mother has role to take care the baby.  The mother will alway be a mother even when the baby grow up and becomes an old man.

The relationship between each Prophet to his followers in a nation is God given.  The followers and Prophets cannot have choice on this relationship.  The Prophet must provide guidance to his followers, as a mother to take of her baby.

Each Prophets was given knowledge that is sufficient to guide everyone of his nation during his time.  Prophet Muhammad was give the knowledge of everyone, including all the Prophets, past and future people.  He is the City of Knowledge.  He is able to provide guidance to all.

Why each Prophet is given the knowledge to warn and guide all his followers?  So Prophets will not be able to separate with their followers and their followers cannot be separated with God's Representatives on this earth. 

God has given the type of guidance that each human need during his life span, and to obtain it the person has to get it through His Approved Representatives of his time.  If the person fails to be with the Representative of God of his time, then the guidance that he gets will be limited from past Prophets  and  this type of guidance is just a general type guidance that likely applies to all, and not specific to the person based on his capacities, capabilities and how he should contribute to other humans in the society.

Many people failed to see this relationship.  So they by-pass God'sRepresentatives of their time, and say that God directly speak me from Holy Spirit. It is as if "he has reached the rank of Prophet or chosen to be a Prophet.  God speak to me directly".  Many people or religious figures claim this special rank.  Some even say.... I melted in God Attributes, God directly control my souls, and Holy Spirit rules my soul.... I speak from God directly...

Muslims don't believe that we can release our dependency on Prophet and Imams(at least not myself).  We believe that we ever dependent on Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and Imams (عليه السلام) to get guidance from Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).  Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) said in Quran, that we will be raised in the hereafter with our Imam that we followed.  And according to Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) if we die and not knowing and following our Imam, we die as non Muslim/misguided (not submitting to God, because we are properly guided).

On the other issue "God and The Spirit of God are One". I will differ with you.  God is beyond description and He is not a Spirit.  Spirit of God is created by God and Not God.  In Islam, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) created His Holy Names so we will able to praise, appreciate and addressing Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

I agree that God directly make us to realize His Greatness.  But, there is a condition.  Must be through His approved ways...be with His Representatives and in unity worshipping Him.  Then God will instruct the guidance that stored with His Representative for us to be release to us, as long as we are with His Representative.

For a Christian, as long as he/she sticks to Jesus(عليه السلام) in real sense, the guidance that Jesus (عليه السلام) has for that particular follower will reach him/her with God's permission.  Therefore, Jesus(عليه السلام) will speak to his follower directly the message from God.

For a muslim (myself), whatever actions I make will be presented to my Leader of my time on daily basis. The guidance that is specific to myself that embedded with my Leader will be released to me by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) permission...on daily basis.  I cannot disconnect my existence to the current God's Representative if I want to be guided.

Wallahualam. 

 

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On 1/30/2022 at 2:45 AM, layman said:

The relationship is God's giving nature between a mother to her baby, until the baby grow up, live for span of time and die.  The mother has role to take care the baby.  The mother will alway be a mother even when the baby grow up and becomes an old man.

Sorry for the long time in answering!

I like your picture of a mother and a child. God sent prophets to bring his message and to guide us so we know how to live in relationship with God. Each person who has an intimate relationship with God has the privilege of hearing God and partnering with him in bringing his invitation or his message to others.  It is an invitation to join his family and to live as a member of that family.

God message may come to a particular person at a particular place at a particular time, but God’s message is always for the world.  Anyone anywhere can look at God’s message and receive his invitation.  The message from God has a timeless quality.  I read what God said to Abraham or David or another prophet many thousands of years ago and it still speaks to me today.  I receive God’s invitation to enter his family.

One of God’s attributes is that he communicates.  He used words to create the universe, he used words to speak to Abraham, Moses and other prophets.  Why should he stop communicating?  He still speaks to us today.  If we have our spiritual ears open, we can hear God speaking to us.  God who is spirit speaks to our spirits and brings spiritual truths for our time and situation.  Of course everything God says has to agree.  When God speaks to me today, I must check that it agrees with what he has said before in order to be sure it has come from God and not my own mind.  In that respect we are dependant on the previous prophets.

You are right that a Christian follows the message of God given through Jesus the Messiah.  Jesus the Messiah is alive and living in and through his followers in that way Jesus’s words are alive and vital for our daily guidance.

On 1/30/2022 at 2:45 AM, layman said:

On the other issue "God and The Spirit of God are One". I will differ with you.  God is beyond description and He is not a Spirit.  Spirit of God is created by God and Not God.  In Islam, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) created His Holy Names so we will able to praise, appreciate and addressing Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

 

God is Spirit – God is not a spirit one of many but he is the source and inhabitor of the Spiritual world and spiritual dimension.  If God isn’t Spirit what is he?  What does the spirit in a person do?  It gives life, without our spirit we are just clay.  So the Spirit of God cannot have been created, because without his Spirit God would not exist.  God and His Spirit are one and the same interlinked the same essence.  Eternally the one God.

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