India - on a handcart to hell? [OFFICIAL THREAD]

[GreenTree]

Extremism is a problem everywhere. I hope God helps the entire mankind. In India, there is Hindu Muslim issue, in the neighboring country of Pakistan, there is Shia/Sunni issue. If you go more further that road, there is taliban state and hazara issue, then in Iran, there is morality wars against their own people, then if you go to Iraq, there is Shia/Sunni/ Kurd issue(headaches don't end) 

[Irfani313]

55 minutes ago, GreenTree said:

Extremism is a problem everywhere. I hope God helps the entire mankind. In India, there is Hindu Muslim issue, in the neighboring country of Pakistan, there is Shia/Sunni issue. If you go more further that road, there is taliban state and hazara issue, then in Iran, there is morality wars against their own people, then if you go to Iraq, there is Shia/Sunni/ Kurd issue(headaches don't end) 

Our general tendency is to paint everyone with a wide equalizer brush. Agreed, all of these are issues, but deep down, there are visible general patterns of tormentors and the victims. 

In India, it’s a Hindu-Wahabi alliance in keeping the cycle of violence going against laymen Muslims. 
 

In Paksitan, it’s Wahabi-GCC plus shadow state alliance against Muslims in general, and Shias in particular. Pak minority Hindus and Christians are another sub-group of victims at the the hands of these. 
 

In Afghanistan, it’s Pashtun Wahabis victimizing Hazara Shias. 
 

In Iran, it’s bigger political trends at play than the mere morality police, which is a gross misreading of Iranian scene. Anybody bottles it such doesn’t know a fly worth of Iran.
 

In Iraq, it’s the same as Pakistan and Afghanistan mix. 
 

In Syria, it’s the Wahabis flown from 80 countries running an endless cycle of violence, and would continue doing so. 
 

The rest of the GCC, plus Jordan, North Africa, and Occupied Palestine are one sick show of a rich minority owning big guns continuously strangulating a poorer majority. 

Yemen is odd transitionary ball with its active resistance against cementing this ME-GCC tyranny. Let’s see which way it goes in next decade or so. 
 

Hindsight, had IRI revolution happened 150yrs ago, 2022 ME would have been a much different place than what it’s now. Had Iraqis followed Baqir us-Sadr in 70’s, Iraq would have a different story to tell today. 

[Haji 2003]

[Haji 2003]

Opinion manipulation

 

[Haji 2003]

Thousands of mosques under threat

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The alleged destruction of Hindu temples to build mosques has been central to this narrative. In May, a senior BJP leader claimed that Mughals had destroyed 36,000 Hindu temples and they would “reclaim all those temples one by one”.

But Richard Eaton, a professor of Indian history at the University of Arizona, said there was no historical evidence for this, with Mughals thought to have torn down only about two dozen temples. “Claims of many thousands of such instances are outlandish, irresponsible and without foundation,” he said.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/30/thousands-of-mosques-targeted-as-hindu-nationalists-try-to-rewrite-indias-history

[Northwest]

^ The above certainly seems to be transpiring under Modi. Saudi–Indian military-intelligence cooperation has expanded significantly, indicating that India is emulating its Pakistani foe by becoming a Saudi proxy. Illegal Saudi finances support the Wahhabi–Salafi Ahl-i Hadith, entering Indian-occupied Jammu and Kashmir (J&K) via Pakistan, yet the Indian state has done nothing to target unregistered conduits for the funds. Saudi funding and strategic cooperation explains why the Indian authorities in J&K have disproportionately targeted Shia minorities instead of the Pakistani-linked drivers of the insurgency. Many BJP/RSS operatives have been exposed as doubles, as Pakistani ISI agents. India’s ally Bangladesh is infested with Saudi-financed Wahhabi–Salafi groups that support Rohingya separatism in Myanmar and terroristic sectarianism in general. India is now discreetly normalising relations with the Afghan Taliban and their sponsor Pakistan.

Edited December 6, 2022 by Northwest

[Haji 2003]

 

[Northwest]

16 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

@Haji 2003

Some context is needed. Those unregistered churches often serve as evangelical fronts for Western intelligence operations, like the unregistered GCC-financed “Muslim” (Wahhabi–Salafi) organisations. Both act to destabilise India on behalf of NATO, Israel, the GCC, and Pakistan. Evangelists and Zionists collaborated with pro-Saudi elements in the Indian military-intelligence apparatus in order to stage the Pakistan-backed Mumbai attack(s) in 2008, for instance. Of course, once the Indian state targets evangelical and Wahhabi–Salafi formations, the latter’s Western backers begin to complain about “anti-Christian” and “anti-Muslim” sentiment in India, as though they pretend to speak for actual religious believers. The problem is that so far Modi’s government is actually doing little to crack down on unregistered evangelical and Wahhabi–Salafi fronts. I already mentioned the case of Kashmir, above.

[Allah Seeker]

On 4/25/2022 at 10:20 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Muslim hijabi students leave exam venue after not being allowed entry

Two girls from Karnataka, India, who had submitted a court petition seeking permission to wear Hijab inside classrooms, were refused to take their board examination after they requested to take the exam while wearing burqas.

Afghan Voice Agency (AVA), The two youngsters, identified as Aliya Assadi and Resham, tried to convince the invigilators and principal at the Vidyodaya PU College in Udupi for about 45 minutes but failed.

https://avapress.com/en/260703/Muslim-hijabi-students-leave-exam-venue-after-not-being-allowed-entry

So ironically the wife of Rama wouldn't be allowed to take the exam in this dress.

.. "no exam for you "

 

I don't think that Rama would have agreed to this nonsense.

Anyway, the education system isn't something worth crying about.

[Haji 2003]

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 12/17/2022 at 12:10 AM, Allah Seeker said:

I don't think that Rama would have agreed to this nonsense.

Anyway, the education system isn't something worth crying about.

Salam many of actions of extremist Hindus is against Hindu teachings which in similar fashion of other extremists of other faiths they have a corrupted intrpretation & cariacture personality but about education system in eastern countries likewise India or Iran or even Korea & Japan having an official diploma from education  system is too vital for success of any person in his life & carrier which extremists Hindus by banning Muslims girls from attending in schools try to put them in dire situation without any hope for their future for having a decent career  & hope for having a better life & getting rid of poverty & other injustices in India .

[Allah Seeker]

On 1/16/2023 at 12:59 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam many of actions of extremist Hindus is against Hindu teachings which in similar fashion of other extremists of other faiths they have a corrupted intrpretation & cariacture personality but about education system in eastern countries likewise India or Iran or even Korea & Japan having an official diploma from education  system is too vital for success of any person in his life & carrier which extremists Hindus by banning Muslims girls from attending in schools try to put them in dire situation without any hope for their future for having a decent career  & hope for having a better life & getting rid of poverty & other injustices in India .

Salaam,

Thank God for Internet 

[Haji 2003]

This is all well and good - but what about the bull calves?

[Haji 2003]

Indian Mosques

 

[Haji 2003]

 

[Haji 2003]

Solitary Muslim defends himself against gang ... 

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Realising that the attackers were determined to kill him, he took out the equipments he had brought with him to perform animal sacrifice and in defence attacked the intended lynchers. This changed the whole scene.  One of the boys who attacked Aslam first, fell on the ground and started writhing. One of the others ran for his life while three of them sustained deep injuries. Two of them died at the scene and the third died in hospital.

https://muslimmirror.com/eng/mp-afraid-of-being-lynched-a-muslim-youth-killed-his-attackers-in-self-defence/

[Haji 2003]

Sikhs in the firing line

 

[BlackVeil]

On 9/20/2022 at 4:45 AM, Irfani313 said:

In Paksitan, it’s Wahabi-GCC plus shadow state alliance against Muslims in general, and Shias in particular. Pak minority Hindus and Christians are another sub-group of victims at the the hands of these. 
 

Yes, I agree that is the picture in Pakistan. It is a place dominated by deep state agencies and policies.

[Haji 2003]

 

[Daran]

On 4/25/2022 at 4:20 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Muslim hijabi students leave exam venue after not being allowed entry

Two girls from Karnataka, India, who had submitted a court petition seeking permission to wear Hijab inside classrooms, were refused to take their board examination after they requested to take the exam while wearing burqas.

Afghan Voice Agency (AVA), The two youngsters, identified as Aliya Assadi and Resham, tried to convince the invigilators and principal at the Vidyodaya PU College in Udupi for about 45 minutes but failed.

https://avapress.com/en/260703/Muslim-hijabi-students-leave-exam-venue-after-not-being-allowed-entry

Very strange. Many religious groups in India wear head coverings too. Some hindu women have ones that look vaguely similar to hijab. 

[Haji 2003]

 

 

[Abu Nur]

11 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

 

 

These are nationalist extremest far rights who praise Hitler and his way of handling things. And their leader is Narendra Modi, this is why they are doing this without fear because they are supported by prime minister. May God curse and destroy them before they go too far for Muslims genocide. 

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 3/30/2023 at 12:47 AM, Daran said:

Very strange. Many religious groups in India wear head coverings too. Some hindu women have ones that look vaguely similar to hijab. 

Hi It's based on heritage of Indai from "Divide & conquer" heritage of British colonialism besides of Islamophobia  which has been spread due to activity of Wahabi preachers who have been supported by KSA which radical Hindutva by support of zionist Israel has used as excuse for oppressing Muslims specially muslim women who wear Hijab (head covering)  by calling Muslims as agents of radical groups & supporters of Pakistan which both of Pakistan & India suffer from phobia of each other due to their heritage from "Divide & conquer" policy of British colonialism which also in some cases of Islamophobia in western countries Sikh men who wear Turbans have faced attacks by Islamophobs in western counries due to similarity of their Turbans to Turban of Muslims.

Sikhs: Religious minority target of mistaken hate crimes - CNN

 

Turban-wearing Sikh actor who was barred from boarding a plane

 

 

[Haji 2003]

I guess they've lost the argument that the Taj Mahal is a Hindu monument

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

Salam

 

 

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[Haji 2003]

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also covered by Al Jazeera:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/25/outrage-in-india-over-video-of-teacher-telling-kids-to-slap-muslim-student

[Haji 2003]

Wahhabis supporting Hindutva Sufi shrine demolition

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[AbdusSibtayn]

17 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Wahhabis supporting Hindutva Sufi shrine demolition

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The Hindu-Wahhabi/Deobandi axis is quite well known now. See how the Khaleeji Najdi kingdoms have been warming up to the regime. They also fund Wahhabi-Deobandi terror outfits to keep the Muslim threat bogeyman alive. But lately some of their Wahhabi minions have been going rogue. 

[Irfani313]

A Muslim genocide / pogrom in india is a sure thing and is coming fast their way.

In parallel the western colonial kingpins (mainly US and UK) major universities’ political science departments’ language classes are filled with hundred of white students learning Hindi and Urdu, the 2nd most populated classrooms after Arabic. These two are most popular (required) language courses among the ROTC and Army Cadets scholarship holders in the two countries. 

Hindus in their centuries old stupidity would play it out naively and would get another partition of India out of this in the same way their previous generation did in early 19th century. Back then it was roughly a million lives lost, this time the figures could be 10x, and the sad part is, nobody would lift a finger about it. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

3 hours ago, Irfani313 said:

A Muslim genocide / pogrom in india is a sure thing and is coming fast their way.

In parallel the western colonial kingpins (mainly US and UK) major universities’ political science departments’ language classes are filled with hundred of white students learning Hindi and Urdu, the 2nd most populated classrooms after Arabic. These two are most popular (required) language courses among the ROTC and Army Cadets scholarship holders in the two countries. 

Hindus in their centuries old stupidity would play it out naively and would get another partition of India out of this in the same way their previous generation did in early 19th century. Back then it was roughly a million lives lost, this time the figures could be 10x, and the sad part is, nobody would lift a finger about it. 

The thing is that, the Indian Muslims having been force-fed and indoctrinated in post-Independence Nehruvian 'patriotism' are too emasculated to even think of a way out of the conundrum and the impending carnage. Decades of brainwashing and misplaced blind faith in the state apparatus (its 'secular' character in particular) means that the only response to overt or covert aggression from them is to demonstrate how good house-slaves they are. They don't see that the Indian state today is not Nehru's India, the same way as the Germany of 1930s was not the Weimar Republic, and keep appealing to the same old tropes. But that chapter is already over. 

The Shi'a stand a better chance though, if the push comes to shove, because of their image as a cultured, educated and peaceful micro-minority. There is also a palpable fear of repeating the Pakistani experience- a nasibi anti- Shi'a takeover of the political apparatus. Incidents of anti- Shi'a violence by Sunni extremists are also surfacing these days. There have been attacks on mosques, imambargahs and Ashura processions by Sunnis (yes,this is India that I'm talking about,not Pakistan or Bangladesh), and there is a genuine fear that if this is the attitude when they have been hemmed in by the Hindus on all sides, what will the Sunnis  do once they are sovereign and have power over the Shi'a?  I don't think the Indian Shi'a are going to be enthusiastic about a partition. A Hindu supremacist state where they're nevertheless free to practice their religion seems preferable over a new Nasibistan, atleast for now. 

[Haji 2003]

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

 

[Haji 2003]

The Segregation of Muslims and Scheduled Castes in India

Research from Dartmouth University

 

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We used administrative data on 1.5 million urban and rural neighborhoods to calculate the Dissimilarity Index, a standard measure of segregation. The Dissimilarity Index describes how evenly groups are distributed across the neighborhoods of a city. It tells us what fraction of marginalized group members would have to move in order to achieve an equal distribution across neighborhoods. High values indicate high levels of segregation.

https://www.devdatalab.org/segregation