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In the Name of God بسم الله

The nature of faith

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On 1/19/2022 at 9:28 PM, layman said:

It is a matter of what the heart has decided. It is unseen. Actions that come out from a person can be measured by observation.

Jesus the Messiah said (Matthew 15)

17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”

This links closely with the Prophet David's prayer Psalm (Zebur) 51

10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

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On 1/19/2022 at 12:38 PM, Northwest said:

it also seems to imply that good deeds do not effect spiritual change in an individual, making said endeavours meaningless, because good deeds neither purify one spiritually nor work toward one’s eternal spiritual fate. It is a self-contradictory creed.

Recognising that it is only God's work that provides the transformation necessary to become a member of God's family and to enter into an eternal intimate personal realtionship with the pure and holy God means that 'salvation' is open to everyone.  No one is beyond God's grace and mercy.

However. there is no teaching in the Christian faith that suggests 'good deeds' do not make a difference to one's spiritual life.  The Hebrew Scriptures and the Injil are full of challenges to live a holy life to engage in spiritual discaplines like fasting and prayer.  The history of the Christian church is one of people from all branches of the faith seeking to draw close to God through spiritual discaplines whether aestheticism or caring for the poor or monastic and community life or living a daily walk of prayer in the midst of life. - Here are some verses from the New Testament giving instructions for a godly life.  The great thing is that God at work in us through his Holy Spirit gives the power and desire to realise these things.

Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. 10 Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. 11 Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. 12 Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. 13 Share with the Lord’s people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge,

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