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Good Shia Symbols for Tattoos? (Without Holy Personalities Names)

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21 minutes ago, Mahdavist said:

I don't think there is any good symbol for a tattoo because this isn't from the way of the ahlulbayt (عليه السلام). The culture of tattoos is taken from non muslims. One often ends up growing old and regretting why they performed such an act which has no basis in the Qur'an or the sunnah of the ma'soomeen (عليه السلام).

I agree with you completely brother, sadly many men specifically the youth are getting tattoos. 

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6 hours ago, BleedKnee said:

Gonna probably get a tattoo. I was thinking about getting 313 in Arabic numerals, but any other signs I'm missing? 

I assume you can read Arabic?

Lots of cases of people getting tattoos in exotic languages and not realising that instead of inking 313 the artist does 'son of Saddam' or some such instead.

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5 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

I assume you can read Arabic?

Lots of cases of people getting tattoos in exotic languages and not realising that instead of inking 313 the artist does 'son of Saddam' or some such instead.

I know what is Arabic numerals and what's words lol. 

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9 hours ago, Mahdavist said:

I don't think there is any good symbol for a tattoo because this isn't from the way of the ahlulbayt (عليه السلام). The culture of tattoos is taken from non muslims. One often ends up growing old and regretting why they performed such an act which has no basis in the Qur'an or the sunnah of the ma'soomeen (عليه السلام).

I don't know about that, since every culture in the world, including the Muslim world, has a history with tattoos. 

I know there's no demand in the teachings of the Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) to get a tattoo, I'm doing it for aesthetic reasons and given it's halal, why not just do it? 

When I mean symbols, I mean symbols that have developed within the Shia world as times gone by. 

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On 10/22/2021 at 7:49 AM, BleedKnee said:

I don't know about that, since every culture in the world, including the Muslim world, has a history with tattoos. 

Actually among the muslimeen it is considered haram among some, permissible among others and even then with certain conditions. 

On 10/22/2021 at 7:49 AM, BleedKnee said:

I know there's no demand in the teachings of the Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) to get a tattoo, I'm doing it for aesthetic reasons and given it's halal, why not just do it? 

Because it has no basis in religion and is generally perceived in the muslim world as an act of imitating disbelievers. 

On 10/22/2021 at 7:49 AM, BleedKnee said:

When I mean symbols, I mean symbols that have developed within the Shia world as times gone by. 

In other words man made symbols that are neither from the Qur'an nor from the sunnah. 

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I would strongly advice against getting a tattoo AT LEAST BEFORE YOU GET MARRIED. This would turn away a lot of pious women and if not them, their parents. Get married first, then once she knows you're a decent guy, discuss this with her. It's like the deal with my parents. My mom was rejecting offers for her hand because they were from abroad or planned on moving abroad. It was only after my dad married her that he suggested the idea and she agreed because she trusted him. If he came in guns blazing with "I'm gonna take you to America!" I would not be here today.

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salam

ayatullah khoei said wudu/ghusul can be done over tatto as it is below the skin, but did not say muslims should get them or more of them.

it's like if ahomosexual asks about ghusul for prayers and the alim said with cold water, thats just for removing najasat of fluid and praying not approving act.

one should ask the marja they follow may i get a tatto if i don't already have them and if so what is allowed

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I'd say:

1. Zulfiqar and swords in general. Literally even Sayyed Sabah Shubbar joked once that "it sounds good خوش كلام" when affirming that it's halal.

2. Dragons. 

3. Skulls.

 

However, some tattoes, especially cheap ones, are done above the skin, which is haram as it stops you from doing ghusl. A proper tattoo should be done under the skin, which is what permanent tattoos are done like.

 

On 10/23/2021 at 7:42 AM, Mahdavist said:

Because it has no basis in religion and is generally perceived in the muslim world as an act of imitating disbelievers. 

I think that this is the case only in Iran and Iraq. In Syria and Lebanon Shia are famous for their tattoos and Western-based Shia are too, I also saw few Kuwaitis at a local mosque learning tajweed with tattoos and they looked badass.

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On 10/21/2021 at 8:23 PM, BleedKnee said:

Gonna probably get a tattoo. I was thinking about getting 313 in Arabic numerals, but any other signs I'm missing? 

As salamu alaykum,

I highly encourage you to NOT get a tattoo.  Sometimes we have these certain phases where we are really interested in something, but after a while we lose interest.  For tattoos that could be the same story, someone may want it at a certain period in their lifetime but later on they may regret their decision.

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2 minutes ago, Mark Enlightment said:

I'd say:

1. Zulfiqar and swords in general. Literally even Sayyed Sabah Shubbar jokes once that "it sounds good" when affirming that it's halal.

2. Dragons. 

3. Skulls.

 

However, some tattoes, especially cheap ones, are done above the skin, which is haram as it stops you from doing ghusl. A proper tattoo should be done under the skin, which is what permanent tattoos are done like.

 

I think that this is the case only in Iran and Iraq. In Syria and Lebanon Shia are famous for their tattoos and Western-based Shia are too, I also saw few Kuwaitis at a local mosque learning tajweed with tattoos and they looked badass.

As salamu alaykum brother,

If I may ask who is your marja?  And what is their views on tattoos?

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Just now, Arian.5010 said:

If I may ask who is your marja?  And what is their views on tattoos?

I believe this to be an unnecessary question as all alive Shia scholars I am aware of deem proper tattoos to be halal, with the difference being merely if they are makruh or mubah

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On 12/26/2021 at 11:31 PM, Mark Enlightment said:

I believe this to be an unnecessary question as all alive Shia scholars I am aware of deem proper tattoos to be halal, with the difference being merely if they are makruh or mubah

I had no intention to disrespect you dear brother.  I don't know the opinions of all the different scholars on tattoos, so I just want to know the opinion of your marja.

Much love :)

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On 12/26/2021 at 11:49 PM, Arian.5010 said:

I had no intention to disrespect you dear brother.  I don't know the opinions of all the different scholars on tattoos, so I just want to know the opinion of your marja.

Much love :)

Sayyed Hakim (رضي الله عنه) said that it's allowed and didn't find him declaring it to be makruh.

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