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thoughts on raza of bayt al ghadeer adopting more sunni-centric beliefs?

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On 6/9/2021 at 8:28 AM, 786:) said:

such as wilayah taqwini are all anti Quranic

هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ مِنْ قَبْلُ وَفِي هَٰذَا لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاءَ عَلَى النَّاسِ

22:78) He named you Muslims before and in this, that the Messenger may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people

Please explain how without the wilayat e takwini, Imams become the witness to all the people? 

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28 minutes ago, Cool said:

هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ مِنْ قَبْلُ وَفِي هَٰذَا لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاءَ عَلَى النَّاسِ

22:78) He named you Muslims before and in this, that the Messenger may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people

Please explain how without the wilayat e takwini, Imams become the witness to all the people? 

 

How does this prove that Imams control every single atom of the universe. This is only a trait of Allah. No compromise for me on that.

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12 minutes ago, 786:) said:

How does this prove that Imams control every single atom of the universe. This is only a trait of Allah. No compromise for me on that.

The one who is witnessing every single human on Earth can control & witness everything. For us, Imam is the hujjah over all creation.

8 minutes ago, 786:) said:

Also this verse has nothing to do with Imams of Ahlulbayt lol. Don’t clip half verses and try to claim victory.

With your this limited understanding, it is expected from you to not digest the concept of wilayah of Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام).

Since you are unable to grasp this clear verse where Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is directly addressing the Imams, how can you understand "Imamin Mubeen" for which the verse of Sura e Yasin says " وَكُلَّ شَيْءٍ أَحْصَيْنَاهُ فِي إِمَامٍ مُبِينٍ"!!

 

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23 minutes ago, 786:) said:

This is only a trait of Allah

Unfortunately, you are so ignorant of Quran that you do not even know that there are some others appointed by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) who regulate the affairs :

فَالْمُدَبِّرَاتِ أَمْرًا {5}

[Shakir 79:5] Then those who regulate the affair.

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Verses 4 and 5 refer to the administration or operation of the consequences of the divine will. The forces working in the universe operate in harmony under the laws made by the creator. There is no reason to restrict its application or reference to any particular agency. 

 

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52 minutes ago, Cool said:

The one who is witnessing every single human on Earth can control & witness everything. For us, Imam is the hujjah over all creation.

With your this limited understanding, it is expected from you to not digest the concept of wilayah of Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام).

Since you are unable to grasp this clear verse where Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is directly addressing the Imams, how can you understand "Imamin Mubeen" for which the verse of Sura e Yasin says " وَكُلَّ شَيْءٍ أَحْصَيْنَاهُ فِي إِمَامٍ مُبِينٍ"!!

 

Astaghfar, you are giving creation the traits of the creator. “Imams control and witness every single human”. Ghuluw is a disease that suffocates tahweed. iA you have an awakening like Raza Rizvi.

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3 minutes ago, 786:) said:

Ghuluw is a disease that suffocates tahweed.

What is your definition of ghuluw? And from where do you derive your definition of Tawheed?

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14 minutes ago, Sabrejet said:

What is your definition of ghuluw? And from where do you derive your definition of Tawheed?

For tawheed, refer to kitab al tawheed of sheikh al suduq

For ghuluw, there are some narrations summarized here:

https://www.al-islam.org/imamate-and-imams-ayatullah-ibrahim-amini/chapter-2-ahlul-bayt-quran-and-traditions

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1 minute ago, Mahdavist said:

For tawheed, refer to kitab al tawheed of sheikh al suduq

For ghuluw, there are some narrations summarized here:

https://www.al-islam.org/imamate-and-imams-ayatullah-ibrahim-amini/chapter-2-ahlul-bayt-quran-and-traditions

I would like to know 786:)'s views on these, because judging by his past threads over the years, his motives seem questionable at best. Based on that, the thread can move forward.

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11 hours ago, 786:) said:

The verses you bring forth have nothing to do with Imams. It states believers will be witnesses to other believers.

So you are a witness over other believers? 

11 hours ago, 786:) said:

Astaghfar, you are giving creation the traits of the creator. “Imams control and witness every single human”. 

Have I given these traits??? Again a display of gross ignorance!!!

Allah is the Mowla/Wali of believers, yet 5:55 mentions Prophet & Imam as Mowla/Wali of believers. 

Angels are the creation of God, they are among those who regulate the affairs. 

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8 minutes ago, Sabrejet said:

I would like to know 786:)'s views on these, because judging by his past threads over the years, his motives seem questionable at best. Based on that, the thread can move forward.

Minimizing Tawheed—giving ghayrullah the attributes of Allah. This waters down the greatness and uniqueness of Allah. For example, Allah is all hearing and omnipresent. Giving this attribute to other than Allah is shirk and ghuluw. Nowhere has Allah mentioned in the Quran that creation shares this trait with him. And he condemns those who try to set up partners with him and his traits. You cannot deny that there are jahils in our communities who ask for rizq and children from Imams. This is ghuluw. If you were to ask a random sample of Shias today to tell you the difference between Allah and the Imams, they will struggle to find a difference. This is ghuluw.

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10 hours ago, 786:) said:

If you were to ask a random sample of Shias today to tell you the difference between Allah and the Imams

I believe they are powerless and unable to do anything except by His permission. And with His permission, they are able to do anything. 

But ultimate power is with Allah. How is this decreasing Allah's power or uniqueness

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There's no partner to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Aimma (عليهم اسلام) has powers granted by Him in what they can do and are not independent of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). 

One should also note that the fazael of Ahlulbayt (عليهم اسلام) is beyond our comprehension. Some people may not accept their fazilat and label it as Ghuluw because of their limited understanding. 

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Just now, Sirius_Bright said:

There's no partner to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Aimma (عليهم اسلام) has powers granted by Him in what they can do and are not independent of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). 

One should also note that the fazael of Ahlulbayt (عليهم اسلام) is beyond our comprehension. Some people may not accept their fazilat and label it as Ghuluw because of their limited understanding. 

Lol such a common escape route to defend ghuluw. “We shouldn’t limit Ahlulbayt because we cannot comprehend their status”—this is the generic indopak zakir line to keep the naaras going. Basically no such thing as ghuluw. Even if one states Imam Ali is Allah—we shouldn’t judge? We don’t know their true fazilat, right?

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46 minutes ago, 786:) said:

Minimizing Tawheed—giving ghayrullah the attributes of Allah.

Actually you minimize tawheed as well as God when you say that God cannot appoint someone to regulate the affairs. You limit God & deny tawheed when you don't accept the verses like 5:55, again limit God by saying that He cannot appoint someone as Wali.

You deny the verses of Quran which mentions the one who possess some knowledge of book and he brought throne of Queen within the blink of an eye. You deny tawheed when you deny the status of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) who possess the knowledge of the book. 

You, at your best, appear as kafir or either as muqassir. Putting allegation of ghuluw on others, better worry about your own emaan. 

Wilayah of Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) is an undeniable fact. It has its roots in Quran, in hadith everywhere. 

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23 minutes ago, 786:) said:

Even if one states Imam Ali is Allah—we shouldn’t judge? We don’t know their true fazilat, right?

Now try to digest these traditions:

1. Whoever becomes a servant of God, God will make everything his servant. 

Tafsir Askari, vol. 1, pg. 327

2. It is through you that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) holds the sky from falling on the earth.

Ziarat Jamiah.

3. Oh my servant, obey me till I make you like myself.

Asrarul-Salat, vol. 1, pg. 4 (introduction).

4. Oh Son of Adam, I am self sufficient and I will not become needy. Obey me so that I make you needless and so that you will never become poor. I am alive and will never die, obey my command so that I make you eternally alive so you will never die.  I tell a thing to be and it is. Obey me so that I make you as such, where you tell a thing to be and it becomes so.

Biharul-Anwar, vol. 90, pg. 376, chapter 24 (the reason for the delay of the answer of prayers..); Irshadul-Qulub, vol. 1, pg. 75, chapter 18; Uddatul-Da’i, pg. 310, chapter…….pg. 307.

5. By grace of their (the imams) existence, the creation receive their sustenance and the sky and the earth remain stable.

Mafatihul-Jinan, pg. 85, Dua Adilah.

Apart from these, there is the famous tradition of ‘Qurbe Nawafil’, which has been narrated in Usulul Kafi.

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13 minutes ago, Cool said:

 at your best, appear as kafir or either as muqassir. Putting allegation of ghuluw on others, better worry about your own emaan.  

MashaAllah now I’m the kafir. I have not done any takfir on anyone with all my time on shiachat even if someone is doing clear cut shirk. I leave takfir to Allah. But the one standing behind ridiculous beliefs such as Imams controlling every single atom in the universe is out calling people kafirs. Oh what a time to be alive.

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4 minutes ago, Cool said:

Now try to digest these traditions:

1. Whoever becomes a servant of God, God will make everything his servant. 

Tafsir Askari, vol. 1, pg. 327

2. It is through you that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) holds the sky from falling on the earth.

Ziarat Jamiah.

3. Oh my servant, obey me till I make you like myself.

Asrarul-Salat, vol. 1, pg. 4 (introduction).

4. Oh Son of Adam, I am self sufficient and I will not become needy. Obey me so that I make you needless and so that you will never become poor. I am alive and will never die, obey my command so that I make you eternally alive so you will never die.  I tell a thing to be and it is. Obey me so that I make you as such, where you tell a thing to be and it becomes so.

Biharul-Anwar, vol. 90, pg. 376, chapter 24 (the reason for the delay of the answer of prayers..); Irshadul-Qulub, vol. 1, pg. 75, chapter 18; Uddatul-Da’i, pg. 310, chapter…….pg. 307.

5. By grace of their (the imams) existence, the creation receive their sustenance and the sky and the earth remain stable.

Mafatihul-Jinan, pg. 85, Dua Adilah.

Apart from these, there is the famous tradition of ‘Qurbe Nawafil’, which has been narrated in Usulul Kafi.

Isn’t it amusing that you have to rely on shaky narrations to prove your point. Nothing from the word of Allah which is indisputable. I will leave it at that.

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1 hour ago, 786:) said:

Minimizing Tawheed—giving ghayrullah the attributes of Allah. This waters down the greatness and uniqueness of Allah. For example, Allah is all hearing and omnipresent. Giving this attribute to other than Allah is shirk and ghuluw. Nowhere has Allah mentioned in the Quran that creation shares this trait with him. And he condemns those who try to set up partners with him and his traits. You cannot deny that there are jahils in our communities who ask for rizq and children from Imams. This is ghuluw. If you were to ask a random sample of Shias today to tell you the difference between Allah and the Imams, they will struggle to find a difference. This is ghuluw.

Your position is still not clear, we can safely rule out mainstream, traditional sunni aqeedah or Imami aqeedah.

Anyways...

I seem to recall a few threads of yours where you used Ayatollah Haydari to support your views. How would you react if you found out that his views of the true position on the true station of Imamate is actually close to the mainstream Imami view? A position that revivalists tend to label ghuluw? I'll post the video after your answer.

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2 hours ago, 786:) said:

Even if one states Imam Ali is Allah—we shouldn’t judge? We don’t know their true fazilat, right?

Those who say Ali is Allah are Mushrik. They don't know where to limit their fazilat and your limited understanding cannot perceive their status. 

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1 hour ago, 786:) said:

MashaAllah now I’m the kafir. I have not done any takfir on anyone with all my time on shiachat even if someone is doing clear cut shirk.

Yes you often try to express youself like shias are mushrik, ghali etc. I just showed you the mirror, who you are! A witness over all believers? Wash your face thousand times and then think billions of time before making such claim. 

1 hour ago, 786:) said:

But the one standing behind ridiculous beliefs such as Imams controlling every single atom in the universe is out calling people kafirs

You believe that this thing cannot happen. Allah cannot appoint someone for "Yudabbir ul Amr". 

He has mentioned "Ulil Amr" to us. So managing the affair (mudabbirat e amra) is very small thing. He has presented before us examples of non-prophets & prophets in Quran. 

So Prophet Sulayman (عليه السلام) ruled over what? Does winds were not made to serve him and obey his commands? Does Jinns not served him & obeyed his commands? And how powerful was the person Asif bin Barqiya who travelled hundreds of kilometers & brought the throne of queen in a blink of an eye. 

2 hours ago, 786:) said:

Isn’t it amusing that you have to rely on shaky narrations to prove your point.

Shaky??? How many should I quote? Here is another from Al-Kafi

And from Abu Abdullah (عليه السلام) having said: ‘It was so that Ali.(عليه السلام) was frequently saying: 
‘There would not gather (from the Clan of) Al-Taymi (Abu Bakr) and (from the Clan of) Al-Adwy (Umar) in the presence of Rasool-Allahsaww and he (عليه السلام) recited: Surely We Revealed it [97:1] (Surah Al-Qadr) with humbleness and crying, so they would both be saying: ‘How intense is your soft-heartedness for this Chapter!’

So Rasool-Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) was saying: ‘(It is) due to what my eyes see, and my heart feels, and due to what the heart of this one would see from after me. So they were both saying, ‘What is that which your heart is seeing, and what is that which 
his heart would see?’ He said: ‘So he wrote for them both in the sand: The Angels and the Spirit descend during it by Permission of their Lord, of every matter [97:4]’.

He (عليه السلام) said: ‘Then he was saying: ‘Does there remain anything after Hisazwj Words: every matter?’ And they were both saying, ‘No’. So he (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) was saying: ‘Do you two know who they descend upon with that?’ They were saying, ‘You, O Rasool-Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)!’ He was saying: ‘Yes’.

So he was saying: ‘Would there happen to be a Night of Pre-determination (Laylat Al-Qadr) (to come) after me?’ So they both were saying, ‘Yes’. So he was saying: ‘So would that affair be descending during it?’ So they were saying, 
‘Yes’. So he was saying: ‘Unto whom?’ So they were saying, ‘We don’t know’. So he grabbed my head and he was saying: ‘If you don’t know, so know, it is this one, from after me’.

He (عليه السلام) said: ‘So it was such that they both (the two from the Clans of Taymi and Adwy) recognised that night (Laylat Al-Qadr) from the intensity of what entered into 
them from the awe. 

(Al Kafi V 1 – The Book Of Divine Authority CH 41 H 5)

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22 minutes ago, Cool said:

Yes you often try to express youself like shias are mushrik, ghali etc. I just showed you the mirror, who you are! A witness over all believers? Wash your face thousand times and then think billions of time before making such claim. 

You believe that this thing cannot happen. Allah cannot appoint someone for "Yudabbir ul Amr". 

I’m going to ignore your references of hadith as I don’t find any value to them nor do I read them—respectfully. But prophet Sulayman controls every single atom in the universe too? Who else? So Allah simply is asleep til Qiyamah even on Qiyamah he will take a backseat to Imam Ali to give out hell and heaven verdicts. This is foolish. Bring clear cut proofs from the Quran that he has left the matters of the universe at the hands of Ahlulbayt. I don’t want “are you denying that it is possible?”—this is not clear cut evidence. I can come around and say “is it possible he can make another Allah?”. Rather the Quran states that Allah is the controller of the affairs of the universe. He has no partners in this. 

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47 minutes ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Those who say Ali is Allah are Mushrik. They don't know where to limit their fazilat and your limited understanding cannot perceive their status. 

Lol so you have it all figured out, huh? “We” are too limited to understand their real fazilat, but you understand it I presume?

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1) Regarding the Coded book comment. Refer to 3:7 ( Clear and Allegorical Verses).

2) Regarding Qur'an is Sufficient, again 3:7  and Hadith al-Thaqalan( The Hadith of the two weighty things).

3) Regarding using Quran 1:7 to prove Ya Ali Madad/Adkhrani ( Istighatha) . Not sure where this comes from. 'The path of those whom Thou hast favoured;" Reference is to the Path and that is true, Say Ya Ali meaning remember, in All your needs because Imam Ali(عليه السلام) is our guardian, and Any issue/problem you have you can look at Imam Ali(عليه السلام) and get a solution to your problem or the way to handle it with patience. So, That is not what Istighatha means. This is the answer to the call for help in 1:6 in following the Straight Path. Apparently word/concept mix up and common issue here Call/Invoke/supplicate etc...

4) Regarding the name of Imam Ali(عليه السلام) in the Adhan, True, Original Adhan when it first introduced, The Wali/Guardianship was not Explicitly Delivered. When someone says the Original Adhan did not have the name they mean prior to Ghadir ( Important Fact that need to be remembered or people will get distracted by the use of Original). Adhan Prior to Ghadir Khumm . 

.  After Ghadir some say the name was included others say they don't consider these reports for whatever reason. Some Jurists do say it is part, most say it is not. Even after that understand Tragedy of Thursday and Saqifa and the reason for Kingdom to be given to others, and even today, The Name needed to be Not Obligatory/Obligatory Part of the Adhan, otherwise it will cause bloodshed. Recommended means you testify when Not under Duress/or in Hostile environment. 

5) The level of basic understanding is questionable so people should not tackle more complex concepts like intercession/istighatha/ Complete Waliyah /Guardinship of jinn/ins(Jinn/humans). If someone does not understand the Guardianship of Imam Ali(عليه السلام) thru 1:7 to be guarded to the Straight path. I would say, stick to basics and understand them before next step. The reformist site mentioned, one of them is here not sure owner or what. But there level of basic understanding is clear to all. So, judge the content accordingly. 

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5 hours ago, Mahdavist said:

Please stay on topic. If there is nothing further to be added then we may end up locking the thread as it is getting derailed. 

I feel like what defines ghuluw in shii Islam is according to topic and that’s all that’s been talked about so far :)

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Zararah says, “I told Imam Sadiq ((عليه السلام).), ‘One of the children of Abdullah Ibn Sanan believes in tafwiz (devolving).’ Imam ((عليه السلام).) asked, ‘What is tafwiz?’ I said, ‘They believe that the Exalted Allah created Muhammad (S) and Ali ((عليه السلام).), then devolved the world issues to them. Now they create, give sustenance, and give death and life.’ Imam Sadiq ((عليه السلام).) stated, ‘He is Allah’s enemy and lies. If you saw him, recite this verse:

أَمْ جَعَلُوا لِلَّهِ شُرَکاءَ خَلَقُوا کَخَلْقِهِ فَتَشابَهَ الْخَلْقُ عَلَيْهِمْ قُلِ اللَّهُ خالِقُ کُلِّ شَيْ‏ءٍ وَ هُوَ الْواحِدُ الْقَهَّارُ

‘Or do they assign to Allah partners who have created (anything) as He has created, so that the creation seemed to them similar? Say: "Allah is the Creator of all things: He is the One, the Supreme and Irresistible."’

 

@Mahdavistso is there any validity to the entire Muhammadan Nūr concept I keep hearing about all the time? Brother Mohamed Moussa (i.e. Kanat Eleyoun) mentions this idea a lot in his presentations.

@786:)are you a Salafi or Ash'ari/Maturidi or something else? Just curious

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10 hours ago, 786:) said:

Lol so you have it all figured out, huh? “We” are too limited to understand their real fazilat, but you understand it I presume?

Yes, I have figured out that you don't understand. You're always in denial mode. 

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10 hours ago, 786:) said:

I’m going to ignore your references of hadith as I don’t find any value to them nor do I read them—

Without reading the shia hadith, you want to be the reformist? :hahaha:

People will call you ignorant reformist who don't even know where to reform & what to reform, just because you don't read the hadith books. Or you just pick those ahadith which suits to your agenda, like salafi do? 

10 hours ago, 786:) said:

But prophet Sulayman controls every single atom in the universe too?

Actually whatever he controlled was only because of the divine authority. What the Asif bin Barqia did was because of the divine authority & some knowledge of the book. 

These are just mere examples of "divine authority".

Regarding with the kingdom granted by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to the progeny of Ibrahim, the following verses are sufficient:

أَمْ يَحْسُدُونَ النَّاسَ عَلَىٰ مَا آتَاهُمُ اللَّهُ مِنْ فَضْلِهِ ۖ فَقَدْ آتَيْنَا آلَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَآتَيْنَاهُمْ مُلْكًا عَظِيمًا {54}

[Shakir 4:54] Or do they envy the people for what Allah has given them of His grace? But indeed We have given to Ibrahim's children the Book and the wisdom, and We have given them a grand kingdom.

See Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) not only has granted the children of Ibrahim (عليه السلام) "Mulkan Azeema" but also the "Mulkan Kabeera" as per 76:20. And He do grants the "haqq e tasarruf" when He grant someone something:

هَٰذَا عَطَاؤُنَا فَامْنُنْ أَوْ أَمْسِكْ بِغَيْرِ حِسَابٍ {39}

[Shakir 38:39] This is Our free gift, therefore give freely or withhold, without reckoning.

Now go the last verse of Sura e Hajj quoted by me in the beginning and see the phrase "millata abikum Ibrahim":

مِلَّةَ أَبِيكُمْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ ۚ هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ مِنْ قَبْلُ وَفِي هَٰذَا لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاءَ عَلَى النَّاسِ

22:78) the faith of your father Ibrahim; He named you Muslims before and in this, that the Messenger may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people;

These are the Aal e Ibrahim, whom God has given the mulkan azeema & mulkan kabeera and have blessed them with the divine covenant we know as Imamate which would not reach to the zalimeen. 

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