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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Diaz said:

Why do u want to use black magic? 

Revenge from someone who did me wrong

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You're going to end up in hell just by wanting to do magic . You need to get it completely out of your mind and focus on real important things . Everyone should focus on living righteous life and on the sides secondarily focus on getting education or whatever it takes for a halal job that is comfortable of work . Ruqyah is for cure to jinn possession and being affected by magic. God says in Holy Quran whoever does magic will be in jahannam and not forgiven . This life is only once chance don't mess it up . It's one thing you can die in near future but it's another thing that you can be disabled from performing good deeds by injury or illness . You need to fear God and get this magic evil out of your mind and focus on making him happy with you and read Holy Quran all the time everyday 

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If someone did wrong to you call upon Allah's name Yah Muntaqeem meaning the The Avenger . Recite this name 100 times and also say Yah Muddhill The Humuliator . If you cant do it 100 times just say it 50 times . Stay away from magic and witchcraft or else you will end up in hell . Don't at all think about it or want to do it

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Posted
On 6/1/2021 at 6:31 PM, Hannie said:

Revenge from someone who did me wrong

Astaghfirullah. Sister, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) exist, pray for him (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), he (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will always accept ur prayers. Call the police if it’s serious.

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On 6/1/2021 at 6:40 PM, Diaz said:

Astaghfirullah. Sister, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) exist, pray for him (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), he (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will always accept ur prayers. Call the police if it’s serious.

I want the same thing they did to me to happen to them too, its not bad. If it was I wouldn't have even thinked about it

Posted
31 minutes ago, Hannie said:

I want the same thing they did to me to happen to them too, its not bad. If it was I wouldn't have even thinked about it

You wanna do black magic on that girl who married your crush. 

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Posted (edited)
30 minutes ago, MexicanVato said:

You wanna do black magic on that girl who married your crush. 

LOL NO! Im 15 

Edited by Hannie
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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Educate yourself. Learn more about Your God and Islam and learn the basic rules of what is Halal and Haram, these are obligatory to yourself.

I agreed with everything you said for "Educate Yourself" :coffee:

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

A practice that is created by Tijania sufi tariqa and have no basis in Islam.

ohhhhh, so its false?

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Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, Hannie said:

ohhhhh, so its false?

These kind of things are ethically wrong and not part of Islam. Nor they are being taught by Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام). These kind of things where a person can manipulate others or make others fall in love by not on their own free will are all work of devil. It is like trying to recite Qur'an verses in hope to do haram things. 

 

Reciting Quranic verses to win lottery when lottery is gambling and haram.

 

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Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

These kind of things are ethically wrong and not part of Islam. Nor they are being taught by Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام). These kind of things where a person can manipulate others or make others fall in love by not on their own free will are all work of devil. It is like trying to recite Qur'an verses in hope to do haram things. 

 

Reciting Quranic verses to win lottery when lottery is gambling and haram.

 

thanks for letting me know :)

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1 hour ago, Hannie said:

LOL NO! Im 15 

Mija, you’re a baby still. 
most women don’t hit their wall till 35+, you have plenty of time inshaallah. I say work on being the wife a man would love to have, so you are not like the majority of women. Be unique. Don’t force anything if it’s not naturally happening. Take advice from an old man that has made many mistakes and learned from them. 

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It's not a good idea. Do you know how magic works? The magicians have no power, not one bit. So how do all of these things happen? Djinn. The djinn will come to you and form a contract with you, whether you know it or not, and they will ask you to do X, Y, and Z. Not because X, Y, and Z do anything, but because they are things that the djinn likes. Once they're happy, they will use their powers to do you favors. But keep in mind that from the very beginning they have no intention of helping you, they want to lead you down a spiral of misery and depression. First they will ask you to do nonsensical things like put salt on a red brick or something like that, but eventually they'd say "I won't help you unless you put period blood on the words of the Quran." 

And they don't even help you, they set things up so that even though they've given you what you want, it will make you miserable in the end. That funny thing you see genies do in cartoons when they give you literally what you asked for but not what you wanted isn't fiction, it's real life. I know stories where the guy uses a love spell to make the woman fall in love, but then she becomes too obsessed with him and it puts him off her, then she kills herself. Or I could ask them for money and they wouldn't give it to me through a halal and satisfactory career, they'd put the money in my hands through haram means, and they'd make sure that money makes me wish I was never born from all the trouble it brings.

They hate you and want to see you as a miserable failure, that is their goal from day one. If you want revenge, then magic is not the way to go about it. Ask the master of the universe for revenge, He would help you no problem. Recently he broke the leg of a person that tormented my family, and I specifically asked Him for this (or something like this, I can't quite remember since I asked for the thing and stopped thinking about it for a while but I wouldn't be surprised if I specifically asked for this). One other person annihilated my family and made my 51 year old father cry in front of his kids, and my family cursed them day and night. As a result they were miserable even though they got everything they wanted. Allah miraculously assisted them in the way He assisted yazid, and He made it impossible for them to enjoy the black fruits which grew at the expense of my family. 

So don't worry, Allah is with the oppressed, and the oppressors should live in terror day and night in fear of what's coming for them. Just ask Allah for help and be patient cause it might take a while for the right time.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Hannie said:

Can I perform black magic using verses from the quran?

Salam all Ruqyah matter is a superstitious innovation  by salafis  & wahabists  under disguise of exorcism by Quran which because sunnis don't have access  to rich shia duas which have taught by our Imams so Salafis & Wahabists  have used this innovation  under influence  exorcism in christanity  which likewise Tarawih is an innovation  in name of Quran agaianst  It which they are mixing black magic texts with verses of Quran which is a hidden  insult  to Quranwhich just causes  harming muslims by satans.

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Hannie said:

Revenge from someone who did me wrong

Salaam sister

Rely on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will take revenge on your behalf. It will not be felt or seen but later you will realize the bigger picture.

In my family, there are plenty of stories which can be a lesson for you:

One of my relative aunt has been wronged by people since she marrued into the house. Sorcery and black magic were done on her because of which many wierd tragidies happened to her. Till this day she remains stressed about it. Her husband (my uncle) was manipulated by all those people so that he gives divorce to her. But he didn't do it thankfully. Not to mention what she went through because of having three daughters in our discriminatory society. A lot of fights, tensions etc etc. She went to gulf with her husband away from all this rubbish. Now, she has three daughters. Two have got good education out of which one is employed in a good position and is gaining experience. Other is in college. And the third one is still in school but she will definitely be good in future. All her haters are now in big trouble. Because they started hating each other and picked up fights with each other on basis of greed, fallacy etc. Some of them have even apologized to her and begged like anything to help them. 

You see the beauty of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). She never ever raised a finger against them and always relied on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). She used to take suggestions from my mother and ask for supplications to help her. She lived with that and now she is in a much better state. What did her enemies achieve. Nothing.

Same with you. Only rely on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and don't give a damn about anyone. If you are seriously hurt and seriously want revenge then ask Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to do justice for you. I am damn sure you will be better.

May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you.

Edited by Zainuu
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Posted
4 hours ago, Zainuu said:

Salaam sister

Rely on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will take revenge on your behalf. It will not be felt or seen but later you will realize the bigger picture.

In my family, there are plenty of stories which can be a lesson for you:

One of my relative aunt has been wronged by people since she marrued into the house. Sorcery and black magic were done on her because of which many wierd tragidies happened to her. Till this day she remains stressed about it. Her husband (my uncle) was manipulated by all those people so that he gives divorce to her. But he didn't do it thankfully. Not to mention what she went through because of having three daughters in our discriminatory society. A lot of fights, tensions etc etc. She went to gulf with her husband away from all this rubbish. Now, she has three daughters. Two have got good education out of which one is employed in a good position and is gaining experience. Other is in college. And the third one is still in school but she will definitely be good in future. All her haters are now in big trouble. Because they started hating each other and picked up fights with each other on basis of greed, fallacy etc. Some of them have even apologized to her and begged like anything to help them. 

You see the beauty of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). She never ever raised a finger against them and always relied on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). She used to take suggestions from my mother and ask for supplications to help her. She lived with that and now she is in a much better state. What did her enemies achieve. Nothing.

Same with you. Only rely on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and don't give a damn about anyone. If you are seriously hurt and seriously want revenge then ask Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to do justice for you. I am damn sure you will be better.

May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you.

thanks may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you as well

Posted (edited)

Performing black magic is a major sin and would carry a capital punishment in a country that enforces Islamic Law. Some ahadith went as far as to call the one who performs it a mushrik, so I would suggest you stay away from such nonsense if you fear Allah's (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) wrath.

As far as whether magic has any effect or reality, this is also debated amongst scholars and is actually a good topic. Some ulama said the effect of magic is as a result of trickery that plays with the mind, which causes one to get "spelled", not because there is any actual reality to it.

A strong believer wouldn't fall into that trap anyway. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) keep us all safe from superstitions.

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5 hours ago, Zainuu said:

Salaam sister

Rely on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will take revenge on your behalf. It will not be felt or seen but later you will realize the bigger picture.

In my family, there are plenty of stories which can be a lesson for you:

One of my relative aunt has been wronged by people since she marrued into the house. Sorcery and black magic were done on her because of which many wierd tragidies happened to her. Till this day she remains stressed about it. Her husband (my uncle) was manipulated by all those people so that he gives divorce to her. But he didn't do it thankfully. Not to mention what she went through because of having three daughters in our discriminatory society. A lot of fights, tensions etc etc. She went to gulf with her husband away from all this rubbish. Now, she has three daughters. Two have got good education out of which one is employed in a good position and is gaining experience. Other is in college. And the third one is still in school but she will definitely be good in future. All her haters are now in big trouble. Because they started hating each other and picked up fights with each other on basis of greed, fallacy etc. Some of them have even apologized to her and begged like anything to help them. 

You see the beauty of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). She never ever raised a finger against them and always relied on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). She used to take suggestions from my mother and ask for supplications to help her. She lived with that and now she is in a much better state. What did her enemies achieve. Nothing.

Same with you. Only rely on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and don't give a damn about anyone. If you are seriously hurt and seriously want revenge then ask Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to do justice for you. I am damn sure you will be better.

May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you.

What kind of advice is that? Pray for God to take revenge? Why do we claim to be followers of ahlul bayt , out ahlaaq should be forgiveness pray for mercy and guidance like seriously why even claim to be Shia 

u think it’s lip service? It’s about actions and state of mind and soul that’s true following otherwise u might as well say whatever and do opposite and swear allegiance to buzz lightyear 

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3 minutes ago, theEndIsNear said:

What kind of advice is that? Pray for God to take revenge? Why do we claim to be followers of ahlul bayt , out ahlaaq should be forgiveness pray for mercy and guidance like seriously why even claim to be Shia 

But doesn't it say in Dua Kumail: 

اللَّهُمَّ وَمَنْ أَرَادَنِي بِسُوٍء فَأَرِدْهُ وَمَن كَادَنِي فَكِدْهُ

O Allah, whoever desires evil for me, desire [it] for him! And whoever deceives me-deceive him!

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Mohamad Abdel-Hamid said:

But doesn't it say in Dua Kumail: 

اللَّهُمَّ وَمَنْ أَرَادَنِي بِسُوٍء فَأَرِدْهُ وَمَن كَادَنِي فَكِدْهُ

O Allah, whoever desires evil for me, desire [it] for him! And whoever deceives me-deceive him!

Well technically that dua is from khidr , nevertheless how many hadeeth we have of imams and prophet Muhammad showing mercy and high ahlaaq towards people cursing and even attacking him physically especially  the early years of Islam 

and God loves mercy and tolerance, in fact every time someone does u wrong pray to God and say please God u forgive And don’t punish me for my sins and wrong because I have forgiven him for whatever wrong ur more  merciful than me and if if I forgive so and so please u forgive me and don’t punish me because ur more merciful than all, trade ur hardship and sins by showing mercy and asking for mercy and forgiveness 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, theEndIsNear said:

What kind of advice is that? Pray for God to take revenge? Why do we claim to be followers of ahlul bayt , out ahlaaq should be forgiveness pray for mercy and guidance like seriously why even claim to be Shia 

u think it’s lip service? It’s about actions and state of mind and soul that’s true following otherwise u might as well say whatever and do opposite and swear allegiance to buzz lightyear 

I don't know what kind of a point you are trying to make. But I talked about pure reliance on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). One who relies on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) suffices all for that person. Such a person himself will not ask for something unjust because his living elevated spirit won't allow it. And as an oppressed it is upto the person if he/she wants to forgive or wants to ask for justice. I don't see a problem in both. I never said that the ask should be to destroy someone but either for justice or for forgiveness. 

Why is a supplication for justice madness? Why can't an oppressed plead and cry in front his lord and complain about what people have done to him? Is it madness? 

Posted
1 hour ago, Zainuu said:

I don't know what kind of a point you are trying to make. But I talked about pure reliance on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). One who relies on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) suffices all for that person. Such a person himself will not ask for something unjust because his living elevated spirit won't allow it. And as an oppressed it is upto the person if he/she wants to forgive or wants to ask for justice. I don't see a problem in both. I never said that the ask should be to destroy someone but either for justice or for forgiveness. 

Why is a supplication for justice madness? Why can't an oppressed plead and cry in front his lord and complain about what people have done to him? Is it madness? 

This life is a test u seem to forget not a test who can get revenge or supersede another I think imam Hussein proved that on Karbala best and winning isn’t about revenge or being the winner on that day 

it’s about patience it’s about reliance it’s about ahlaaq , Quran says prophet Muhammad was sent to demonstrate the best ahlaaq 

why u think ur here to be number 1? Then ur seeking Dunya 

thus life is a test, a test to see what undo when ur wronged oppressed etc and a test to see what u do when things go well 

reqlly I don’t know what’s going with those who call themselves Shia today , they get worse with every generation and they’re all just lip service and see, to drift further away from the ones they claim to follow

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Posted
14 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

It's not a good idea. Do you know how magic works? The magicians have no power, not one bit. So how do all of these things happen? Djinn. The djinn will come to you and form a contract with you, whether you know it or not, and they will ask you to do X, Y, and Z. Not because X, Y, and Z do anything, but because they are things that the djinn likes. Once they're happy, they will use their powers to do you favors. But keep in mind that from the very beginning they have no intention of helping you, they want to lead you down a spiral of misery and depression. First they will ask you to do nonsensical things like put salt on a red brick or something like that, but eventually they'd say "I won't help you unless you put period blood on the words of the Quran." 

And they don't even help you, they set things up so that even though they've given you what you want, it will make you miserable in the end. That funny thing you see genies do in cartoons when they give you literally what you asked for but not what you wanted isn't fiction, it's real life. I know stories where the guy uses a love spell to make the woman fall in love, but then she becomes too obsessed with him and it puts him off her, then she kills herself. Or I could ask them for money and they wouldn't give it to me through a halal and satisfactory career, they'd put the money in my hands through haram means, and they'd make sure that money makes me wish I was never born from all the trouble it brings.

They hate you and want to see you as a miserable failure, that is their goal from day one. If you want revenge, then magic is not the way to go about it. Ask the master of the universe for revenge, He would help you no problem. Recently he broke the leg of a person that tormented my family, and I specifically asked Him for this (or something like this, I can't quite remember since I asked for the thing and stopped thinking about it for a while but I wouldn't be surprised if I specifically asked for this). One other person annihilated my family and made my 51 year old father cry in front of his kids, and my family cursed them day and night. As a result they were miserable even though they got everything they wanted. Allah miraculously assisted them in the way He assisted yazid, and He made it impossible for them to enjoy the black fruits which grew at the expense of my family. 

So don't worry, Allah is with the oppressed, and the oppressors should live in terror day and night in fear of what's coming for them. Just ask Allah for help and be patient cause it might take a while for the right time.

I am really ignorant about this topic, but everything you said i remember a sunni person i used to know used to tell this too exactly same as what you said. the thing i never used to understand how are people in contct with djinn and vice versa?

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1 hour ago, F.M said:

I am really ignorant about this topic, but everything you said i remember a sunni person i used to know used to tell this too exactly same as what you said. the thing i never used to understand how are people in contct with djinn and vice versa?

Dark rituals and trash like that. A lot of the time the magician isn't even aware they're dealing with a djinn and think the power is from them. But no matter what they think, this game is rigged for them to lose. I can't find the quote but I heard the djinn exclaim amazement at how the humans turn to them for help, and how they think they're here to help them when they only intend to hurt them.

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8 hours ago, theEndIsNear said:

This life is a test u seem to forget not a test who can get revenge or supersede another I think imam Hussein proved that on Karbala best and winning isn’t about revenge or being the winner on that day 

it’s about patience it’s about reliance it’s about ahlaaq , Quran says prophet Muhammad was sent to demonstrate the best ahlaaq 

why u think ur here to be number 1? Then ur seeking Dunya 

thus life is a test, a test to see what undo when ur wronged oppressed etc and a test to see what u do when things go well 

reqlly I don’t know what’s going with those who call themselves Shia today , they get worse with every generation and they’re all just lip service and see, to drift further away from the ones they claim to follow

I find you extremely narrow minded to discuss about this. I just wonder. Am I speaking Farsi over here?

Imam Hussain's (عليه السلام) stand in Karbala was a sacrifice full of patience and resilience. But the revenge of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) was soooo harsh for his enemies that there burial places are not even known. No one keeps his son's name Yazid or Shirm and they are accursed till the day of judgement. What else can be the revenge of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)? Subhanallah.

Where you are going with all this is not what I mentioned or even said about.

I never asked anyone to pray Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to 'punch someone in the face' LOL. 

So, stop wasting your time by these useless comments. Sister knows what I said and your posts are out of context tbh.

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On 6/2/2021 at 8:54 PM, Zainuu said:

I find you extremely narrow minded to discuss about this. I just wonder. Am I speaking Farsi over here?

Imam Hussain's (عليه السلام) stand in Karbala was a sacrifice full of patience and resilience. But the revenge of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) was soooo harsh for his enemies that there burial places are not even known. No one keeps his son's name Yazid or Shirm and they are accursed till the day of judgement. What else can be the revenge of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)? Subhanallah.

Where you are going with all this is not what I mentioned or even said about.

I never asked anyone to pray Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to 'punch someone in the face' LOL. 

So, stop wasting your time by these useless comments. Sister knows what I said and your posts are out of context tbh.

is that meant for me? or for someone else?

 

Its a big coincidence when you said "Am I speaking farsi over here" I laughed because my language IS Farsi

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3 hours ago, Zainuu said:

 

So, stop wasting your time by these useless comments. Sister knows what I said and your posts are out of context tbh.

I think he makes a very good point. The mindset of the people is to get quickly offended and hurt and to think about retribution (either divine or self initiated), whereas we could also take the approach of the ahlulbayt and say:

If what you say is true may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) forgive me.

If what you say is false may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) forgive you

 

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4 hours ago, Zainuu said:

I find you extremely narrow minded to discuss about this. I just wonder. Am I speaking Farsi over here?

Imam Hussain's (عليه السلام) stand in Karbala was a sacrifice full of patience and resilience. But the revenge of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) was soooo harsh for his enemies that there burial places are not even known. No one keeps his son's name Yazid or Shirm and they are accursed till the day of judgement. What else can be the revenge of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)? Subhanallah.

Where you are going with all this is not what I mentioned or even said about.

I never asked anyone to pray Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to 'punch someone in the face' LOL. 

So, stop wasting your time by these useless comments. Sister knows what I said and your posts are out of context tbh.

I’m sorry but your narrow minded the context of this conversation seems to have confused you and gone over your head , you seem like a “get even type character “ I’ve said all I said 

one thing u seem to forget , this life is a test “we will test you with fear loss of life .....” good luck go around with your vengeful thinking see where it gets you, will just make u a bitter angry and eventually unpleasant to be around in general person

you become what you think and if ur approach to life is revenge and just negative thoughts u will become a force of negativity to everyone around u

and unfortunately a lot of muslims today are 

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On 6/2/2021 at 7:28 AM, Hannie said:

Can I perform black magic using verses from the quran?

Salam,

I could not compute your question.  How would a person perform black magic using verse from Qur'an.

For example...Reading surah Al-iklas to perform black magic????

Is the question is correct in the first place?

I have heard that people use verses from Qur'an to fend away black magic.

 

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1 hour ago, theEndIsNear said:

I’m sorry but your narrow minded the context of this conversation seems to have confused you and gone over your head , you seem like a “get even type character “ I’ve said all I said 

one thing u seem to forget , this life is a test “we will test you with fear loss of life .....” good luck go around with your vengeful thinking see where it gets you, will just make u a bitter angry and eventually unpleasant to be around in general person

you become what you think and if ur approach to life is revenge and just negative thoughts u will become a force of negativity to everyone around u

and unfortunately a lot of muslims today are 

You said what you said. But you read very little. 

It seems you never read what I wrote, so there is no point arguing. 

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