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The disturbing similarities between the USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia

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Salaam,

In this post I seek to explore some disturbing and eerie similarities between the 3 nations mentioned in the title. Of course, this may all be coincidence, but I still would like to show you what I've found:

1. These 3 nations have a government that follows a deviated, extremist and political form of the 3 Abrahamical religions. As we all know, Saudi Arabia is a Salafist state, Israel is a Zionist state, and while the USA is supposedly laic, it was originally founded and populated by pilgrims who were Protestant dissenters, and today Evangelicalism is rampant.

2. These 3 nations are named after people. The USA, or United States of America: America is derived from Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian merchant and explorer. Israel is one of the names of Prophet Jacob (عليه السلام) and Saudi Arabia comes from Muhammad bin Saud (his father named Saud ibn Muhammad ibn Muqrin), founder of the Saudi state. 

3. These 3 nations have good relations with each other. Without a doubt, Israels biggest supporter is the USA (those 3 billion $ each year speaks volumes); and while Saudi Arabia doesn't (still) recognize Israel, we all know they have relations and are "signing papers under the table", like we way.

4. These 3 nations hate Iran. Whatever your opinion is about the Islamic Republic of Iran, you can't deny that these 3 countries are united in their hatred for Iran.

5. These 3 nations were directly or indirectly founded by the British. The USA was a colony that later gained independence by revolting. Israel was formed after what previously was "Mandatory Palestine", a British entity in the Middle East. And finally the UK signed many treaties with the Saudis and was among the first countries that recognized Saudi Arabia. And we all know that during that era, if you were recognized by the UK, then your legitimacy was established.

6. These 3 nations are built on genocide and the eradication of ethnic and religious minorites of the land. The USA practically wiped out the Native Americans. Israel is killing and expelling the Palestinians. Saudi Arabia is cracking down on the Shia population and even on the Sunnis that don't agree with them; and non-Muslims are also treated badly.

7. These 3 nations have and still are committing foreign wars, genocide and killing millions of innocent people. The USA has committed many atrocities (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Banana Republics, installing dictators in South America, and the list goes on...). Israel is eliminating all its enemies thanks to secret intelligence, not to mention all the wars it had with its Arab neighbors. Saudi Arabia is currently bombing and starving Yemen to death, and all the financial and military support it receives is from no other than the USA (what a surprise !).

8. These 3 nations are in the top 15 countries by military expenditure. So much money that could have gone to Education, Health, Infrastructure, but nah...

9. These 3 nations are very young in history standards. The USA was founded in 1776, Israel in 1948 and Saudi Arabia in 1932.

10. These 3 nations began as weak and poor, losing wars and suffering huge losses, but eventually became rich and superpowers. The USA began as a colony composed of pilgrims that were escaping religious persecution from Europe. Their beginning in the New World was very harsh, with many dying of starvation, cold, sickness and attacks by the Natives. The USA evolved very slowly, with many internal problems (like the Great Depression and other things) but is today the leading world superpower, with many calling it the New Rome. Israel began also as a colony with many Jews migrating from Europe, escaping hundreds of years of oppresion and massacres, and eventually the tables turned with them committing the same acts to the Palestinians, and with the help of the USA, Israel is considered a rich and developped country in the Middle East. Saudi Arabi began as literally a bunch of Arab bedouins lead by the Saud family, who despite being almost completely eliminated by the Egyptians and Ottomans 2 times, they eventually conquered the rest of Arabia, and with the discovery of oil, the economy skyrocketed ever since.

11. And last but not least, these 3 nations have eschatological importance and have been allusionned to in Qur'an and Hadith. I'm not an expert, but from what I know, there are Hadiths which say that Imam al-Mahdi (atf) will wage war on Rome (a possible reference to the USA). We all know about the Sufyani, who very possibly are the USA or Israel (or both). It is mentionned in the Qur'an: And We warned the Children of Israel in the Scripture, “You will certainly cause corruption in the land twice, and you will become extremely arrogant." (17:4). The second time that Bani Israil will cause corruption very possibly refers to modern state of Israel. And there's the well known hadith: "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from there appears the Horn of Satan." This very possibly refers to modern day Saudi Arabia and Wahhabism.

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2 hours ago, Mohamad Abdel-Hamid said:

Salaam,

In this post I seek to explore some disturbing and eerie similarities between the 3 nations mentioned in the title. Of course, this may all be coincidence, but I still would like to show you what I've found:

1. These 3 nations have a government that follows a deviated, extremist and political form of the 3 Abrahamical religions. As we all know, Saudi Arabia is a Salafist state, Israel is a Zionist state, and while the USA is supposedly laic, it was originally founded and populated by pilgrims who were Protestant dissenters, and today Evangelicalism is rampant.

2. These 3 nations are named after people. The USA, or United States of America: America is derived from Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian merchant and explorer. Israel is one of the names of Prophet Jacob (عليه السلام) and Saudi Arabia comes from Muhammad bin Saud (his father named Saud ibn Muhammad ibn Muqrin), founder of the Saudi state. 

3. These 3 nations have good relations with each other. Without a doubt, Israels biggest supporter is the USA (those 3 billion $ each year speaks volumes); and while Saudi Arabia doesn't (still) recognize Israel, we all know they have relations and are "signing papers under the table", like we way.

4. These 3 nations hate Iran. Whatever your opinion is about the Islamic Republic of Iran, you can't deny that these 3 countries are united in their hatred for Iran.

5. These 3 nations were directly or indirectly founded by the British. The USA was a colony that later gained independence by revolting. Israel was formed after what previously was "Mandatory Palestine", a British entity in the Middle East. And finally the UK signed many treaties with the Saudis and was among the first countries that recognized Saudi Arabia. And we all know that during that era, if you were recognized by the UK, then your legitimacy was established.

6. These 3 nations are built on genocide and the eradication of ethnic and religious minorites of the land. The USA practically wiped out the Native Americans. Israel is killing and expelling the Palestinians. Saudi Arabia is cracking down on the Shia population and even on the Sunnis that don't agree with them; and non-Muslims are also treated badly.

7. These 3 nations have and still are committing foreign wars, genocide and killing millions of innocent people. The USA has committed many atrocities (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Banana Republics, installing dictators in South America, and the list goes on...). Israel is eliminating all its enemies thanks to secret intelligence, not to mention all the wars it had with its Arab neighbors. Saudi Arabia is currently bombing and starving Yemen to death, and all the financial and military support it receives is from no other than the USA (what a surprise !).

8. These 3 nations are in the top 15 countries by military expenditure. So much money that could have gone to Education, Health, Infrastructure, but nah...

9. These 3 nations are very young in history standards. The USA was founded in 1776, Israel in 1948 and Saudi Arabia in 1932.

10. These 3 nations began as weak and poor, losing wars and suffering huge losses, but eventually became rich and superpowers. The USA began as a colony composed of pilgrims that were escaping religious persecution from Europe. Their beginning in the New World was very harsh, with many dying of starvation, cold, sickness and attacks by the Natives. The USA evolved very slowly, with many internal problems (like the Great Depression and other things) but is today the leading world superpower, with many calling it the New Rome. Israel began also as a colony with many Jews migrating from Europe, escaping hundreds of years of oppresion and massacres, and eventually the tables turned with them committing the same acts to the Palestinians, and with the help of the USA, Israel is considered a rich and developped country in the Middle East. Saudi Arabi began as literally a bunch of Arab bedouins lead by the Saud family, who despite being almost completely eliminated by the Egyptians and Ottomans 2 times, they eventually conquered the rest of Arabia, and with the discovery of oil, the economy skyrocketed ever since.

11. And last but not least, these 3 nations have eschatological importance and have been allusionned to in Qur'an and Hadith. I'm not an expert, but from what I know, there are Hadiths which say that Imam al-Mahdi (atf) will wage war on Rome (a possible reference to the USA). We all know about the Sufyani, who very possibly are the USA or Israel (or both). It is mentionned in the Qur'an: And We warned the Children of Israel in the Scripture, “You will certainly cause corruption in the land twice, and you will become extremely arrogant." (17:4). The second time that Bani Israil will cause corruption very possibly refers to modern state of Israel. And there's the well known hadith: "O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from there appears the Horn of Satan." This very possibly refers to modern day Saudi Arabia and Wahhabism.

Agree!!!!

To add, atleast 2 of them were founded by those people who adopted conquest to promote there motives:

Saudi Arabia - Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab

Israel - Theodor Herzl

Maybe even US

USA - George Washington

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On 4/18/2021 at 11:01 PM, Zainuu said:

Agree!!!!

To add, atleast 2 of them were founded by those people who adopted conquest to promote there motives:

Saudi Arabia - Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab

Israel - Theodor Herzl

Maybe even US

USA - George Washington

These 3 personnalities are going to have a very long trial in the Day of Judgement.

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