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Most religious country on earth?

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Most religious country on earth?  

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  1. 1. Most religious among them is?

    • saudi arabia
    • Pakistan
    • Yemen
    • Afghanistan
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    • Somalia
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which is the most religious country on earth in that poll? I only put these countries based on what others considered what is the most religious country from what I saw on other platforms. I also only put Muslim countries as other countries have been westernised and become less religious.

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the good people are everywhere and always in less. 

Just like black on white. 

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l based my assessment on mosques in the US. The Paki dominated mosques are the most deliberate in their practice. About nothing in the way of extraneousness.

Although they do have showy hypocrites like all places do.

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16 hours ago, Diaz said:

Salam, there is nothing called religious country. It’s the people who follow religion. 

Obviously I meant which of these countries have the most religious average people

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6 hours ago, Zainuu said:

You haven't mentioned all choices though. But among them I find Yemen to be one. 

Pakistan and India are almost equal. It is just that Pakistan is ruled by muslims. 

No thats not true because most indian youth are westernised and there are even statistics showing they support lgbt rights

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29 minutes ago, Dawid Das said:

No thats not true because most indian youth are westernised and there are even statistics showing they support lgbt rights

The ones who went out in Abroad might be.

When you talk about the country, first comes those who live in that country. So, with regards to that, Pakistani and Indian muslims are not much different in terms of religion.

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4 minutes ago, Zainuu said:

The ones who went out in Abroad might be.

When you talk about the country, first comes those who live in that country. So, with regards to that, Pakistani and Indian muslims are not much different in terms of religion.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1051734/india-opinion-on-same-sex-love-among-youth-by-city-type/

 

Btw I was not talking about indian Muslims. Just the average indian

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2 minutes ago, Dawid Das said:

Btw I was not talking about indian Muslims. Just the average indian

So, your stats have no relevance to your topic. Because there is a big differencebetween what an average Indian Youth thinks and what an average Indian Muslim youth thinks.

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14 minutes ago, Zainuu said:

So, your stats have no relevance to your topic. Because there is a big differencebetween what an average Indian Youth thinks and what an average Indian Muslim youth thinks.

???

I was never talking about indian Muslims youth to begin with, I thought you meant the average indian youth when you compare india and pakistan

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I went for Yemen instead of Saudi Arabia due to what the Bible mentions: You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. They do have the best hijab in the world, they do respect God's boundary between man and woman, they do recite Quran more than anyone else, but they don't do the big picture justice with their akhlaq. They have drawn a photorealistic painting with perfect shading, anatomy, and perspective, but they got the proportions wrong so the piece is ruined. My opinion.

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11 hours ago, Dawid Das said:

???

I was never talking about indian Muslims youth to begin with, I thought you meant the average indian youth when you compare india and pakistan

Ah! In that way you can even say that :

"Average Indian youth is not religious because he/she commits shirk."

you will only compare Muslims with muslims. Right?

Anyways leave it. It doesn't matters so much.

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On 4/14/2021 at 11:20 AM, Dawid Das said:

No thats not true because most indian youth are westernised and there are even statistics showing they support lgbt rights

I'm interested that you seem to be measuring religious by atitudes to the LGBT issue and Westernisation.  I don't think westernization has anything to do with being religious or not - it is a chosen life style.  There are many 'religious' people in the west just as there are in other parts of the world also many people who reject God and his standards.

I don't think you can call a country religious or not - the Pew report @Ashvazdanghe posts is interesting as it shows a person's indivual response - how they view themselves.

I prefer to talk about 'faith' rather than 'religion'.  Religion is a framework set up to guide (control) a person's choices and actions.  Faith is more about a heart response to a spiritual encounter resulting in an internal motivation for life style.

The important question is what is the source of the spiritual encounter.  People can be religious but have little or no faith they just do what society expects of them as it is easier to conform.  A person or community that has had a life changing spiritual encouter will be willing to stand and be different.

 

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On 4/15/2021 at 2:15 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

How religious commitment varies by country among people of all ages

 

0ne thing l noticed is that 'religion' is more important in the generally poorer countries.

Reading these reminded me of something our instructor said in discussing some aspect of Greco-Roman history,

"That in times of trouble, people turn to religion."

 

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22 hours ago, hasanhh said:

One thing l noticed is that 'religion' is more important in the generally poorer countries.

Theoretically, could this form part of an effective argument against Western capitalism?

On 4/14/2021 at 2:48 PM, guest 2025 said:

I went for Yemen instead of Saudi Arabia due to what the Bible mentions: You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. They do have the best hijab in the world, they do respect God's boundary between man and woman, they do recite Quran more than anyone else, but they don't do the big picture justice with their akhlaq. They have drawn a photorealistic painting with perfect shading, anatomy, and perspective, but they got the proportions wrong so the piece is ruined. My opinion.

Based on this, then, it is rather interesting to note how harshly the Qa’im is said to treat the Arabs. The Saudi religious establishment is extremely conservative and fastidious in adhering to the outward form of religiosity. In Islam the outward form connotes action, however indirectly, since one’s dress, deportment, comportment, etc. express both inner and outward dimensions, including chastity and modesty, among other virtues. So based on this the Saudis could be seen to be more pious than the average Indian, Afghan, or even Iranian, given that the Saudis attempt to “purify” their sect and culture by straining out foreign influences, whereas the other groups mentioned tend to adopt a somewhat more flexible approach, at least on the popular level, if not the clerical one. From the Shia standpoint, the Saudis are wrong for backing the wrong side, that of the Companions and the Four Caliphs, but not so much for their ultra-conservatism. Maybe Iran should adopt Saudi-style ultra-conservatism while retaining Shia ideology.

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5 hours ago, Northwest said:

Theoretically, could this form part of an effective argument against Western capitalism?

No it does not. The same can be said for the socialist and the former East Bloc countries when religion was not very important.

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30 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

No it does not. The same can be said for the socialist and the former East Bloc countries when religion was not very important.

Capitalist states have historically been the wealthiest on the planet. Your point is read as thus: the wealthier a state, the more irreligious its populace. If one were to examine a scale, the medieval masses were the most religious, the capitalists somewhat less so. Certainly, many capitalists remained at least somewhat religious, but the most pious among them probably tended to be less saintly than the most virtuous medieval man (or woman). Wealth tends to pander to the people’s worldly instincts, even though wealth itself is neutral, a means to an end. So from the religious standpoint wealth is not a sin but is arguably discouraged, owing to the potential hazards and temptations it affords insofar as this-worldly life is concerned.

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1 hour ago, Northwest said:

Your point is read as thus: the wealthier a state, the more irreligious its populace.

Not quite. The "wealthier" a populace --and the individuals there-in -- the more neglectful of their cultural superstitions and rites.

1 hour ago, Northwest said:

Wealth tends to pander to the people’s worldly instincts, even though wealth itself is neutral, a means to an end.

Ayats 31:6 and 10:88 as a couple of examples.

1 hour ago, Northwest said:

but is arguably discouraged

Nope. Ayat 16:14

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On 4/16/2021 at 11:22 AM, hasanhh said:

Now, what is that?

ln the church l grew up in, this was categorized as a hallucination. 

HI Hasanhh - It's great to have you sharing from your experience.  I don't know what sort of church you grew up in but it sounds nothing like mine!!!!

I'm so sad that your experience of church didn't introduce you to a living spiritual encounter with the life transforming God.  Each day my heart responds to a relevant spiritual encounter with God.  God engages with me as I rest in his presence.  This is the normal life for a follower of Jesus and transforms religious practice into a daily walk with God through the power of his Holy Spirit.

May God meet you this Ramadan with a spiritual encounter!

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1 hour ago, Dave follower of The Way said:

I'm so sad that your experience of church didn't introduce you to a living spiritual encounter with the life transforming God.  Each day my heart responds to a relevant spiritual encounter with God.  God engages with me as I rest in his presence.  This is the normal life for a follower of Jesus and transforms religious practice into a daily walk with God through the power of his Holy Spirit.

This is one of the things that church warned against.

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On 4/15/2021 at 6:44 PM, Dave follower of The Way said:

I don't think westernization has anything to do with being religious or not - it is a chosen life style.

Hi , It's a life style which just supports being religious without having interaction with social & political corruption & tyrany which mostly in western world is supporting LGBT & forcing of accepting it by others which is the most evil deeds but also in other hand being true religious or faithfull means ordering good & forbidding evil which at lowest point of it you must be angry in your heart due to doing evil deeds in any place or anyone even yourself which without ordering good & forbidding evil nobody will rech salvation even by being religious or faithfull or spiritual but being isolated from world & not doing ordering good & forbidding evil .

On 4/17/2021 at 2:01 PM, Northwest said:

Shia standpoint, the Saudis are wrong for backing the wrong side, that of the Companions and the Four Caliphs, but not so much for their ultra-conservatism. Maybe Iran should adopt Saudi-style ultra-conservatism while retaining Shia ideology.

This is totally wrong conclusion our problem with Saudis (Wahabist/Salafis) is not about the Companions and the Four Caliphs but it's about understanding from Islam & their support from tyrans & enemies of muslims also ultra-conservatism has no place in shia ideology which it practiced few years after Iran revolution in Iran which now majority of so  called ultra-conservatists at that period of time has became anti Islam people even some of them have insulted to prophet & Imam & done blasphemy which KSA maybe looks like ultra-conservative due to heavy of pressure of official Muftis & support of KSA monarchy from them but by falling of monarchy or real refom majority of them specially younger generation will leave religion because they just follow religion due to fear & forcing it by official Muftis of KSA.

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On 4/20/2021 at 8:54 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Hi , It's a life style which just supports being religious without having interaction with social & political corruption & tyrany which mostly in western world is supporting LGBT & forcing of accepting it by others which is the most evil deeds but also in other hand being true religious or faithfull means ordering good & forbidding evil which at lowest point of it you must be angry in your heart due to doing evil deeds in any place or anyone even yourself which without ordering good & forbidding evil nobody will rech salvation even by being religious or faithfull or spiritual but being isolated from world & not doing ordering good & forbidding evil .

Wow - I like what you have written!

Yes there are different expressions of religion.  One is only a name and a series of actions and practices and beliefs which have no impact on the person's engagement with politics and oppressive and corrupt regimes and laws.  It is a lifestyle which lets society flow down the river and what will be will be.

There is another expression of faith which goes beyond the practice4s and just acknowledging a set of beliefs.  It is a transformed lifestyle which is in direct communication with the living active righteous God.  I life like this will stand against the flow in the river of society and speak out against injustice and immorality which turns God's standards on their head.

We need to ask ourselves, whether we live in the West or African or Eastern or Middle Eastern country, what impact does our faith have on our daily engagement with society.  Are we angry and does that anger result in action and speaking out against corruption and immorality?

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