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Iran’s stance on Uighur Muslims in China

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Alhamdullilah,

Asalaam wa laikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu brothers and sisters,

I just got finished watching a short documentary about the booming partnership between Iran and China. Several local Iranian citizens were asked about their opinion about China and the United States. I heard mostly disapproval of the United States from all the locals as expected in regards to the US being tyrants and Aggressors and so I was very curious to hear the general consensus on China from the Iranian general public. After hearing many views It seemed like everyone in Iran had very good things to say about China and their cultural and business impact in Iran. 

I understand that Iran has to take care of Iranian interest and it sovereignty and it is good to see them doing well despite American discrimination by way of unwarranted sanctions. However I am a bit surprised that out of all the people interviewed no one had anything to say about China’s aggression and oppression of Uighur Muslims in China. Millions of Muslims being put in detention camps and re programmed and reports of rape and sterilization of Uighur Muslim women. Since Iran is in heavy partnerships with China in building new Silk Roads and new infrastructure to expand through the Middle East and even Europe, How is Iran using its position with China to help the Uighur Muslims. Is it ok to be heavily in business with China while they are oppressing millions of Muslims? 

This is purely for my understanding and not to shed a negative view about either Iran or China. It seems it would be very hypocritical to form a firm stance on America’s atrocities and hegemony and overlook the aggression’s of China in its new global expansion. Any Iranian in here I would love to hear your thoughts. 

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It's the #1 issue that I have with the IRI. So much hate against the Western countries, and it's well deserved hate, but you can't say you hate Muawiyah as you shake hands with Yazid. The Chinese are far worse than the Americans.

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7 hours ago, qumayl said:

The Chinese are far worse than the Americans.

This is just based on American-Zionist-Wahabi propaganda anyway there is zero coverage about Uighurs in official Iranian media & in social media as unofficial source of News which even PanTurk account in social media do not cover anything about situation of Uighurs which their only priority is insulting & treating Iranians to death which because so called Uighur activists in Turkey & western countries like America has made strong ties with MEK terrorists against Iran sovereignty so even WF groups see them in negative light & a treat for Iran & Shias.  

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2 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

It is just an economical and in some part military treaty to build stronger and safer Iran and the bullies of Us and Israel to minimized. We don’t know the full detail.

I wonder myself what is the stance of Iran on Uighur Muslims? @Ashvazdanghe

Based on Iran’s  economical situation  regarding sanctions it totally makes sense for Iran to forge a strong partnership with China but if the situation with the Uighurs is even somewhat true, I feel like it is Iran’s responsibility to shed some light on the situation or perhaps even offer some type of resolution to the Uighur situation while being in partnership with China. 

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1 hour ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

This is just based on American-Zionist-Wahabi propaganda anyway there is zero coverage about Uighurs in official Iranian media & in social media as unofficial source of News which even PanTurk account in social media do not cover anything about situation of Uighurs which their only priority is insulting & treating Iranians to death which because so called Uighur activists in Turkey & western countries like America has made strong ties with MEK terrorists against Iran sovereignty so even WF groups see them in negative light & a treat for Iran & Shias.  

Yes, I live in US so I’m not sure what the situation is from my side. I do recall Canada recently as of last week being the first to declare the situation with the Uighurs as genocide. So are you saying that because there is no coverage of the Uighurs in Iran that it does not exist? You guys have a better look than we do over here. 

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9 hours ago, qumayl said:

It's the #1 issue that I have with the IRI. So much hate against the Western countries, and it's well deserved hate, but you can't say you hate Muawiyah as you shake hands with Yazid. The Chinese are far worse than the Americans.

As an African American with slave ancestors I can’t say China is worse than America yet in regards to humanitarian crisis but they definitely seem to be moving aggressively In regards to their Muslim population. 

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8 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Who exactly are Uighurs that westerns and wahhabis talk all the time? Why most muslim are so silent about them?

Just because Muslim countries are silent doesn't mean the issue doesn't exist. Let's not forget how much Arabs love killing each other so that's not really sound logic to say that if they don't speak up then the issue doesn't exist. There have been documentaries where Chinese citizens were interviewed without showing their face out of fear, and each citizen was aware of what was going on with the Uighurs. 

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8 minutes ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Iran will not say anything about Ughyurs because China is a friend but they will cry all day for Palestinians because Israel is the enemy. HYPOCRISY. 

 https://thedispatch.com/p/is-the-muslim-world-ignoring-the
 

Most telling, however, is a speech by Massoud Shajareh, the Iranian head of the London-based and Iran-backed Islamic Human Rights Commission. During a speech he gave last year in Iran, Shajareh engaged in whataboutism about America’s concerns about Uyghurs but silence about the Yemen civil war that has created a human rights catastrophe, thanks to a U.S.-ally (Shajareh omitted Iran’s contribution to the catastrophe). First, Shajareh stuck to the regime talking points that the Uyghurs enjoy minority rights in China because they are exempted from the infamous “one child policy.” Then, Shajareh said,

We can become like the Americans and the Zionists, which means we start screaming… which is not useful except antagonizing China. The philosophy and mechanism that we want to use in helping the Uyghurs is very different than the ones we employ in helping Kashmir or the Palestinians because the Palestinians and the Kashmiris wouldn’t be oppressed if the West didn’t assist it.

 

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9 minutes ago, qumayl said:

Just because Muslim countries are silent doesn't mean the issue doesn't exist. Let's not forget how much Arabs love killing each other so that's not really sound logic to say that if they don't speak up then the issue doesn't exist. There have been documentaries where Chinese citizens were interviewed without showing their face out of fear, and each citizen was aware of what was going on with the Uighurs. 

It is impossible to deny, but hard to know fully what is really happening there.

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The OIC delegation which visited China to investigate the situation did not find any evidence of a genocide. The 'detention centres' were found out to be rehab centres for returning to the mainstream those people who had been radicalised by the ETIM. Millions of people are not in the 'detention camps', just former ETIM members are detained for inducting back into the mainstream and giving them vocational training. People are not being detained wholesale. I have friends working in Xinjiang who travel to and fro, and they have told me there's nothing like what the media portrays. Most of the Uighur population are honest, law abiding citizens and are well represented in the state services as well as the CPC hierarchy. The situation is not at all the same as the one in Palestine.

Bear it in mind that the ETIM is an al-Qaeda affiliate, which has fought in the Syrian 'revolution'. They have engaged in violence against Uighur Muslims themselves,and by no means represent all the Uighurs. The crackdown is on militant groups,not the entire ethnic group.

Requesting everyone to refer to these- 

https://www.qiaocollective.com/en/education/xinjiang

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/19/china-uighurs-genocide-us-pompeo-blinken/

When the OIC and now the US State Department themselves say that there is no genocide in Xinjiang, so to speak, what should the IRI condemn, and why?

 

 

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A bit of common sense please. 

USA : attacks Muslims in several countries, directly and through proxies, almost starves Iran with economical sanctions for decades. 

China : trades with Iran for decades, yet has repressive policy towards parts of its Muslim community.

Which of both would you side with? 

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even if the news about chinese muslims is totally fake, still can't see how China is also not a tyrant. they are American economy's backbone, don't have any issues with zionism, and communism in general is against any type of religion. what about the protests in Honk Kong... how is China's response there justified?

 

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14 minutes ago, Sirius_Bright said:

If tomorrow China become Iran's enemy due to some reason, the lot defending China today will not get tired of condemning them. Also add 'Marg bar China' after prayers. 

Who is here even defending an kafir land and government of China? These are nothing but treaties that even the Prophet (saws) did between the Muslims and polytheist. 

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28 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Who is here even defending an kafir land and government of China? These are nothing but treaties that even the Prophet (saws) did between the Muslims and polytheist. 

i've heard this one before. from arabs justifying normalization of ties with Israel.

America today would not exist the way it does without China.

However, personally I find Ayatullah Khamenie to be one of the best leaders and trust his judgement on this matter. It's a complex matter. Some things that come to mind. China is not imposing any sanctions on Iran whereas America does. Ayt Khamenie has said they are willing to work with America on certain conditions, namely lifting unjust sanctions and constant conspiracies against Iranian interests (paraphrasing here).

and of course China hasn't broken deals whereas America/Europe have (JCPOA)

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6 minutes ago, khamosh21 said:

i've heard this one before. from arabs justifying normalization of ties with Israel.

America today would not exist the way it does without China.

However, personally I find Ayatullah Khamenie to be one of the best leaders and trust his judgement on this matter. It's a complex matter. Some things that come to mind. China is not imposing any sanctions on Iran whereas America does. Ayt Khamenie has said they are willing to work with America on certain conditions, namely lifting unjust sanctions and constant conspiracies against Iranian interests (paraphrasing here).

Speaking of the treaty. The treaty itself does not justify that it is fine to do it without care of halal or haram. Of course in Islam every treaty must be do it in halal way.

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17 hours ago, Guest AbdulKarim313 said:

 After hearing many views It seemed like everyone in Iran had very good things to say about China and their cultural and business impact in Iran. 

 

It is not true. The majority dont trust China.

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3 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Who exactly are Uighurs that westerns and wahhabis talk all the time? 

Extemporaneously, a Turko-Mongol ethnic group that historically have resided in what was Turkmenistan (carved out of China, as was Outer Mongolia and Tibet, by the West following WW1  as Hong Kong and Macao were before) and is now XUAR -Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region. As part of a stabilization program, groups viewed as an internal threat to the Chinese people's safety and social stability are being repressed: Falun Gong, missionary-based chrisiians (not state sponsored), Sufis (especially after the Ma Li problem nearly thirty years ago), un-official buddhist sects, . . .

During the 1990's Taliban, at the time only 3 Uyghur men are known to have went to Afghanistan and 2 more years after that. 

The Shanghai Five was formed in 1996 in response to lsIamic 'terrorism' and is now known as the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

The current situation began when Han Chinese were moved into the region and Uyghurs were/are excluded from jobs.

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10 hours ago, BleedKnee said:

I really suggest people look over the The Grayzone's coverage on the mass media campaign on Uyghurs. Nearly all 'evidence' on there being concentration camps, forced rapes, cultural genocide is taken from some far-right Christian zealot living in Germany

It really is important to be critical of these things. Organizations from the New York Times to Reuters are by no means unbiased actors just reporting on events, they often acted as agents of chaos to help promote US imperial ambitions. 

Adrian Zenz. All the so called "reports" have this one source. 

Not to mention that Zenz himself is a far-right, hardliner evangelical politician.  If I recall correctly, his group supports the Muslims being  deported from Germany too.

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I don't think that Iranians are very fond of China. They just see it as lesser of the two evils. Of course, China is motivated by its own geopolitical considerations in dealing with Iran; it cannot be said to be guided by solely altruistic and anti-imperialist considerations. But such is the geopolitics of the times we live in. As it is for a country besieged by sanctions and embargoes, 24×7 regime change propaganda, and even direct military threats, the luxury of finding perfect allies doesn't exist. 

Just like in Afghanistan the local Shi'a people and Iran had to cooperate with the US army, because the only alternative to them were the Taliban who wanted to wipe out the entire Hazara Shi'a population. It wasn't even a choice, it was a compulsion.

Similarly, on a related note, Xi Jinping, Putin and Assad are not perfect allies. They are not saints. But what is the alternative to allying with them for Syria? Ogres who want to grind the Shi'a to mincemeat, rape and enslave our womenfolk, and raze the rawzā of Sayyidā Zainab (sa) to the ground.

For Iran it's not even a choice between these two options. It is a question of survival for them. And self-preservation is wājib on every believer.

Also, bear in mind that the Uighurs are not the largest Muslim ethnic group in China; the largest Muslim ethnic group in China are the Hui Muslims. Why does one never hear of any genocide perpetrated on them, if China is anti-Muslim as a matter of policy? Is it because there is no CIA asset in the form of something like the ETIM (loose woman terrorism tag has recently been revoked by the Pentagon) among them, and they can't be made fodder regime change propaganda? We have to keep our eyes and ears open.

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53 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

I would like to believe that, at the same time the images they show on the news here (I agree the US media is biased against China and Iran) show very large walls (100s of meters long) topped with razor wire. These are prisons designed to keep people in, and they are designed for thousands of people, otherwise, you wouldn't need a facility that large for a few 10s or hundreds of people. Also, if it was just 'job training' as the Chinese government says, then why do you need high walls topped with razor wire ? Wouldn't people voluntarily go to job training ? Why do you need to force people to stay there. Also, why are these places only in the Uygur areas, and not all over China ? Don't other Chinese need 'job training' ? 

I am not claiming I know what is going on there, and I know the US uses this issue as a blunt instrument to exert pressure on the Chinese government for their own purposes, but if what was really going on was just that innocent (i.e. that they are only going after terrorist organizations, and they are trying to 'mainstream' those Chinese that fell thru the cracks economically) then why all the secrecy, like not allowing reporters or foreign observers into these 'training' facilities or even in the areas around them ? 

All these are open questions that must be answered. The fact that they are not being answered just builds more suspicion as to what is really going on. I am surprised, and at the same time not surprised that the IRI is not bringing up this issue with China. First of all, I don't think they are trying too hard to know what is going on, because there is no overwhelming evidence, at this point, as to what is really going on, and they are trying to survive economically by doing these deals with China. If the sanctions were lifted, and they could do business like any other country, I think they would make more effort to look into these allegations. I am surprised that they are not, at least, raising these issues with their Chinese counterparts. 

The Western Media is biased, and wrong about alot of things, it doesn't mean they are wrong about everything. The Chinese government could solve this problem in 5 minutes if they wanted to. Just get a group of U.N. Observers from Neutral Countries, maybe some from Iran, to do a few inspections of these facilities. They Chinese government would allow them to show up at random times (not known or chosen by the Chinese Govt) and observe and report what they see, and let them move about as they please, and not guided by officials. I think if they did this, then this issue would be finished. I highly doubt they will do it, which means the problem and suspicions won't go away anytime soon. 

 

 

I would, once again, urge you to go through the article and the document file I have linked above. All those queries are answered there. But I am repeating it once again.

The high security arrangements are there because, let us not forget, the people detained there are former terrorists after all, as of yet not de-radicalized. They might try to escape. Till the time they are inducted back into the mainstream, no chances can be taken. Also, in one of the fake news busting articles up there, you'll see that they photographed a literal regular prison faculty and passed it as a 'concentration camp'. I don't think it is too much of a surprise that prisons will look like prisons.

As for the 'transparency' concern,the Chinese state authorities have repeatedly, and on record, invited both Mark Pompeo (when he was holding office) and the UNHRC to come to Xinjiang and investigate the matter for themselves. Looks fairly transparent to me.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/China-Invites-UN-to-Visit-Education-Centers-in-Xinjiang-20190613-0004.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-mofa-idUSKCN24H14K 

These are just two instances. In the past they have invited a host of dimplomatic missions to visit Xinjiang and see everything for themselves.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-xinjiang-idUSKCN1QA0XX

 

The ball is now in the UN and Pentagon's court. It is for them to clarify now if what the Western media and governments have been saying all this while is true or not.

The US state department itself recently backtracked on its stand about the 'genocide' in Xinjiang. What does that indicate?

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

I would, once again, urge you to go through the article and the document file I have linked above. All those queries are answered there. But I am repeating it once again.

The high security arrangements are there because, let us not forget, the people detained there are former terrorists after all, as of yet not de-radicalized. They might try to escape. Till the time they are inducted back into the mainstream, no chances can be taken. Also, in one of the fake news busting articles up there, you'll see that they photographed a literal regular prison faculty and passed it as a 'concentration camp'. I don't think it is too much of a surprise that prisons will look like prisons.

As for the 'transparency' concern,the Chinese state authorities have repeatedly, and on record, invited both Mark Pompeo (when he was holding office) and the UNHRC to come to Xinjiang and investigate the matter for themselves. Looks fairly transparent to me.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/China-Invites-UN-to-Visit-Education-Centers-in-Xinjiang-20190613-0004.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-mofa-idUSKCN24H14K 

These are just two instances. In the past they have invited a host of dimplomatic missions to visit Xinjiang and see everything for themselves.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-xinjiang-idUSKCN1QA0XX

 

The ball is now in the UN and Pentagon's court. It is for them to clarify now if what the Western media and governments have been saying all this while is true or not.

The US state department itself recently backtracked on its stand about the 'genocide' in Xinjiang. What does that indicate?

 

 

 

Yes. Thank you for the articles. 

As for Pompeo, I know what his agenda is so I don't really care about him. I wouldn't invite him within 50 miles of my own house, if I could help it.

As for the other articles, yes they invited them on 'guided tours', guided by Chinese authorities. I have seen videos of these guided tours. That isn't being transparent. That's why noone took them up on it. They know these 'tours' are a dog and pony show designed to show what the Chinese government wants to show and only that. It is not real access.

If they really wanted to be transparent, they would give the Representatives from the UNHCR, again the ones from neutral countries, open ended visas and access to the sties without a 'guided tour'. If they did that, and the report cleared them of any wrongdoing in this case, this would end it, we could move on, and I would be the first one to say that these allegations are false. If I were a Chinese Government authority, and I heard these accusations, I would want to do this in order to clear my name, and the name of my government from such allegations. This is just logical. So why are they not doing it ? This is the main question that we need to answer. 

I have no evidence there is genocide going on, and I never said that, and I disagree with the US State Department on many things. But the lack of transparency is troubling and usually hints that there is something going on besides what you mentioned. If there are human rights abuses going on, we, as Muslims, should defend our brothers and sisters against such acts of injustices, whether they are done by the Chinese government or anyone else. I couldn't care less whether they are Shia or not, the are still Muslims. 

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21 hours ago, Guest AbdulKarim313 said:

Yes, I live in US so I’m not sure what the situation is from my side. I do recall Canada recently as of last week being the first to declare the situation with the Uighurs as genocide. So are you saying that because there is no coverage of the Uighurs in Iran that it does not exist? You guys have a better look than we do over here. 

Salam our generation has raised while we were seeing news about Palestine everyday 24/7 everywhere but even now some people in Iran still don't believe to struggle of Palestinians with Zionists even now they are against any support for Hezbollah so when majority of people don't see about Kashmir people & Uighurs so virtually they don't exists for Iranians also as I said highest  priority of panTurk groups is occupying land of Iran in favor of Turkey & NewOttomans even panTurk shias are Interrupting shia hadith about Ajam army of Imam Mahdi (aj)  just as Turks so they have no business about condition of Uighurs in china which source of blaming Iran for not caring Uighurs just comes from MEK & Wahabi propagand against Iran.

19 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Most telling, however, is a speech by Massoud Shajareh, the Iranian head of the London-based and Iran-backed Islamic Human Rights Commission.

 

3 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

The Chinese government could solve this problem in 5 minutes if they wanted to. Just get a group of U.N. Observers from Neutral Countries, maybe some from Iran, to do a few inspections of these facilities.

 Salam Iran did it through U.N but current party in government just told their caution about it as a formal peace of advise with hi level of caution which had no effect which as @Abu Nur mentioned about Massoud Shajareh currently he is only person which is caring about this issue and situation of Sheikh Zakzaky but he didn't receive any support from Iran for his solution which was forming a committee of clerics from multiplle muslim countries like Iran & Malaysia & etc for attending between Uighurs and negotiating with both sides to solve their problems but It has not fulfilled yet.

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We made this proposal and we even made this proposal to the leaders in Turkey, Malaysia, Iran, Indonesia, and we discussed this with our loved ones and politicians and experts which  It is  not enough to just tell China that your work is inhumane, and do not do this. We have to make a solution as a friend. As a person with whom we have a series of partnerships on social, political and economic issues. To convey to the Chinese that we also have a problem with the Takfiris, we also have a problem with those whom the United States has started to express chaos in our country; But we know how to deal with them. Returning to say that this is the main basis of Islam and Islam should be struck,It is wrong. If we do this in our own country, everything will be ruined. That is, our troubles are increasing day by day. You should not do the same. We are even willing to send a team that specializes in this work, to work with you to resolve this issue and reduce the gap between ordinary people there and the Chinese government.

 

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You see, I forgot to tell you one thing: when Hazrat Agha was the president, now I do not know how many friends , knows this , he had a trip to that region. The crowd that came out to greet Hazrat Agha was unprecedented for that region. That is, the love and affection they showed for the revolution and for Hazrat Agha was unprecedented. We should not confuse these with some Takfiris who are puppets of the United States and who play the role of separatist for the United States all over the world.

 https://virgool.io/@Basij_Sharif/مسئله-اویغور-pl4dfkugoqf4

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5. But what is our duty in the meantime? As Muslims, what should we do about the oppression of our Muslim brothers and non-Muslim oppressed people in different parts of the world? Of course, we have to choose between absolute silence and harmony with the United States and American currents.
In the first stage, we must find out the truth of the matter. Find out what is happening. And get to know the Muslims of China (their beliefs, their problems, ways to help them, and so on). In the meantime, the work of revolutionary and committed media is increasing. In this situation, they should make the space as clear and distinct as possible.
Next, we must provide appropriate moves according to priorities to help solve the problems of Chinese Muslims. Of course, for us, Britain ,China ,America , Russia  have not fundamental difference from each other . Wherever is a oppressive and arrogant, we must  stand up against him and supporte the oppressed and the weak. The Muslim student movement in particular must act with foresight; From giving statements and correspondence with related centers to bigger things like gathering and
At the same time, the national media, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs  should be asked not to forget to inform and communicate directly with the public opinion of our country, if for any reason they have taken their current position. Even if they do the right thing, they should inform the nation about the facts.
Finally, it should be noted that it is at such times that the lack and weakness of the masses of people who approach the issues of the Muslims of the world with a revolutionary and conscious approach is felt. Something that is an important and vital need for the Islamic Revolution, which is a better revolution for the world.

http://basij.aut.ac.ir/blog/1388/04/1388-04-24-09-23-42/

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مسئله اویغور / مصاحبه با آقای مسعود شجره

Issue of Uigur/ Interview with mr Massoud Shajareh

https://lws.aparat.com/v/tRu8Y (video)

مسعود شجره پاسخ داد: چرا غرب درباره اویغورها داد و فریاد می‌کند اما درباره یمن و میانمار ساکت است؟ + ویدیو

Massoud Shajareh answered :Why western world is shouting about Uigurs but It is silent about Yemen and Myanmar (video+Farsi text)

https://fa.abna24.com/news/اخبار-مجمع/مسعود-شجره-پاسخ-داد-چرا-غرب-درباره-اویغورها-داد-و-فریاد-می_775320.html

http://www.iwpeace.com/tags/مسعود-شجره

https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/883820/مسعود-شجره-داعش-و-۱۱-سپتامبر-از-قبل-برنامه-ریزی-شدند

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18 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Who is here even defending an kafir land and government of China? These are nothing but treaties that even the Prophet (saws) did between the Muslims and polytheist. 

I'm not saying severe all the ties with China. Iran even does business with US. and that's fine but atleast show consistent behavior while raising voice for oppressed. Just because Iran can't be wrong people are trying to defend China - Ughyurs are not oppressed. 

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"We have to tell China that you have two important issues," Shajreh said. One is the Takfiris and the other is those who want to separate and say that if someone in our country wants to do the same and  becomes a toy of west, we  prevented it and we are preventing it now. We know how to behave, but you have lack experience in how to treat Muslims, and we are ready to send a team from Iran, from Turkey, for example, from Malaysia, to cooperate and not allow the Takfiri organs and elements and separatist elements that The United States and the Zionists are strengthening their activities.

He added: "The only positive thing is the third issue that we said and this is not an issue that we should publicize about. This is an issue that needs to be addressed in a good way because we want to solve problems for both of us.

Those who are interested can watch the video of this conversation below or on the Telegram channel of "Islamic World of Sharif University" with the ID @omatvahedeh.

https://fa.abna24.com/news/اخبار-مجمع/مسعود-شجره-پاسخ-داد-چرا-غرب-درباره-اویغورها-داد-و-فریاد-می_775320.html

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