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We all know that our imam got into occultation and hidden From the human eye aswell From the djins. Some say he walks between us just like a normal human being but he isnt getting recognized that he is the imam.  While there are some beliefs that he can also be invisible and as a argument being used that he is not only hidden from human eye but also from the eyes of the djins, so is he in a different dimension or not? 
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Dr. Jalali: A small number of Muslims believe that the Imam of the Age is the son of Imam Hasan 'Askari who was born in the year 256 AH/843 CE. However, they say that he has ascended from this world to the unseen world known as Hurqalya1. When humankind reaches maturity and abandons the strife-ridden life of this world, preparing itself to meet and behold the Imam of the Age, it will be able to see him

One of the leading authorities has written thus in his book:

This [unseen] world had gravitated until it merged with the earth. In the time of Adam he was told: 'Ascend!' And, until now he is ascending. He has not set himself free from the worldly attachments and the filth that sticks with them. He has not reached the clean atmosphere yet. Thus, here it is all darkness.
In darkness a human being is searching for a religion and is performing deeds. He has a set of beliefs. 

When he frees himself from the dust of the traditions and enters the clean space, he will see the brilliant face of the friend of God [= wali = the twelfth Imam] and benefit from his presence without any obstruction, in public. At that time ordinances of religion will become something else, and religion will attain its original form and everything will be different.

The word refers to the mythological universe known to the mystics as very difficult world requiring the strength or courage of Hercules to encounter or accomplish. Tr
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The Promised Mahdi is among my descendants. His name and patronymic will be the same as mine. In creation and conduct he will be the closest to me. He will live a life of occultation during which people will become confused and lost. At that time, like a brilliant star he will appear and fill the earth with justice and equity, as it is filled with injustice and tyranny4.

Majlisi, Bihar al-anwar, Volume 51, p. 72.-

what do you think? Lets we all discuss this topic and may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless all of us. 

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15 minutes ago, lissenma said:

Is this possible? yes.

there are many other possibilities though, maybe he's in another planet? maybe not even in this galaxy, who knows?

 

This cant be true. Elsewhere this dunya should get destroyed immedially by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). This dunya is in need of a living hujjah, without him this dunya is nothing worth. So he must wander on this earth 

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On 3/27/2021 at 2:04 AM, F.M said:

While there are some beliefs that he can also be invisible and as a argument being used that he is not only hidden from human eye but also from the eyes of the djins, so is he in a different dimension or not? 

Salam every dimension is his territory so he can be in any dimension or terirtory by his will but he is not limited for being in a particular place or dimension so he can be among us & in parallel in other dimension which he can show himself to anyone which he wants & hides himself from anyone who he wishes also there is many reports about seeing him by sinful persons among muslims or even followers of other religions when they called him for assistance from depth of their heart in crucial moments which they made a promise like praying on time in any  circumstance which after solving their problem asked them for fulfilling their promise 

ياقوت الدهان - الذي التقى بالامام المهدي عليه السلام

Yaqut al Dahan - who visited Imam mahdi (a.t.f.s)

 

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On 3/27/2021 at 2:04 AM, F.M said:

While there are some beliefs that he can also be invisible and as a argument being used that he is not only hidden from human eye but also from the eyes of the djins, so is he in a different dimension or not? 

Salam every dimension is his territory so he can be in any dimension or terirtory by his will but he is not limited for being in a particular place or dimension so he can be among us & in parallel in other dimension which he can show himself to anyone which he wants & hides himself from anyone who he wishes also there is many reports about seeing him by sinful persons among muslims or even followers of other religions when they called him for assistance from depth of their heart in crucial moments which they made a promise like praying on time in any  circumstance which after solving their problem asked them for fulfilling their promise 

ياقوت الدهان - الذي التقى بالامام المهدي عليه السلام

Yaqut al Dahan - who visited Imam mahdi (a.t.f.s)

 

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17 hours ago, F.M said:

This cant be true. Elsewhere this dunya should get destroyed immedially by Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى).

Nobody except Allah knows the truth.

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3 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam every dimension is his territory so he can be in any dimension or terirtory by his will but he is not limited for being in a particular place or dimension so he can be among us & in parallel in other dimension which he can show himself to anyone which he wants & hides himself from anyone who he wishes also there is many reports about seeing him by sinful persons among muslims or even followers of other religions when they called him for assistance from depth of their heart in crucial moments which they made a promise like praying on time in any  circumstance which after solving their problem asked them for fulfilling their promise

Salaam is it allowed from any of our sahih hadiths to call him (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) of course with the will an permission of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى)? 

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Seeking For Means Through Him Peace Be On Him, In Every Difficult Issues (Ya- Faarisal Hijaz)

 

It was related that whoever is affected with grief, distress and trouble should recite the following (70) seventy times:

يَا فَارِسَ الْحِجَازِ اَدْرِكْنِيْ، يَا اَبَا صَالِحِ الْمَهْدِيٍّ  اَدْرِكْنِيْ، يَا اَبَا الْقَاسِمِ اَدْرِكْنِيْ اَدْرِكْنِيْ وَلَاتَدَعْنِيْ، فَاِنِّيْ  عَاجِزٌ ذَلِيْلٌ۔

 

Another Seeking Means Through Him (May Our Souls Be Sacrifice For Him) (O' The Leader Of The Time)

 

It was related that whoever is affected with grief, distress and trouble should recite the following (70) seventy times:

يَا اَللهُ يَا مُحَمَّدُ يَا عَلِيُّ يَا فَاطِمَةُ يَا صَاحِبَ الزَّمَانِ، اَدْرِكْنِيْ وَ لَا تُهْلِكْنِيْ۔

 

Another Seeking Of Means Through Him Peace Be On Him

 

It was said in Tuhfa Arridawiyah: you should sent blessing to the Prophet (100) one hundred times after the recommended (Nafila) after Magrib prayer, and then you recite the following supplication (70) seventy times.

يَا اَللهُ يَا مُحَمَّدُ يَا عَلِيُّ يَا فَاطِمَةُ يَا حَسَنُ يَا حُسَيْنُ، يَا صَاحِبَ الزَّمَانِ، اَدْرِكْنِيْ يَا صَاحِبَ الزَّمَانِ۔

 

 

After that you send (100) one hundred blessing to the Prophet (peace be on him and his holy progeny) and put forward your requests.

 

 

 

Sayyid Allamah Al-wahid mentioned that it was tested for achieving important issues.

 

 

https://www.duas.org/SahifaMahdi/IndexG.htm

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On 3/27/2021 at 8:34 AM, F.M said:

We all know that our imam got into occultation and hidden From the human eye aswell From the djins. Some say he walks between us just like a normal human being but he isnt getting recognized that he is the imam.  While there are some beliefs that he can also be invisible and as a argument being used that he is not only hidden from human eye but also from the eyes of the djins, so is he in a different dimension or not? 
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Dr. Jalali: A small number of Muslims believe that the Imam of the Age is the son of Imam Hasan 'Askari who was born in the year 256 AH/843 CE. However, they say that he has ascended from this world to the unseen world known as Hurqalya1. When humankind reaches maturity and abandons the strife-ridden life of this world, preparing itself to meet and behold the Imam of the Age, it will be able to see him

One of the leading authorities has written thus in his book:

This [unseen] world had gravitated until it merged with the earth. In the time of Adam he was told: 'Ascend!' And, until now he is ascending. He has not set himself free from the worldly attachments and the filth that sticks with them. He has not reached the clean atmosphere yet. Thus, here it is all darkness.
In darkness a human being is searching for a religion and is performing deeds. He has a set of beliefs. 

When he frees himself from the dust of the traditions and enters the clean space, he will see the brilliant face of the friend of God [= wali = the twelfth Imam] and benefit from his presence without any obstruction, in public. At that time ordinances of religion will become something else, and religion will attain its original form and everything will be different.

The word refers to the mythological universe known to the mystics as very difficult world requiring the strength or courage of Hercules to encounter or accomplish. Tr
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The Promised Mahdi is among my descendants. His name and patronymic will be the same as mine. In creation and conduct he will be the closest to me. He will live a life of occultation during which people will become confused and lost. At that time, like a brilliant star he will appear and fill the earth with justice and equity, as it is filled with injustice and tyranny4.

Majlisi, Bihar al-anwar, Volume 51, p. 72.-

what do you think? Lets we all discuss this topic and may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless all of us. 

You guys need to remember khidr  is been around even longer same with iblis so it’s not something unique or other worldly it’s very earthly , and doesn’t require another dimension 

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20 minutes ago, theEndIsNear said:

You guys need to remember khidr  is been around even longer same with iblis so it’s not something unique or other worldly it’s very earthly , and doesn’t require another dimension 

there are actuall naratoins that Khidr has lots knowledge even the knowledge to get invisible. I asked someone who studied Mahdism.

And about Iblis , he is also invisible right?

and how about prophet muhammed sawa got also invisible when they tried to search for him while his house was complete under control, And later on they found imam Ali (عليه السلام) in his bed?. 

how about all the events that happened when people actually meeted the imam and then 2seconds later he disapeared?.

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5 minutes ago, F.M said:

there are actuall naratoins that Khidr has lots knowledge even the knowledge to get invisible. I asked someone who studied Mahdism.

And about Iblis , he is also invisible right?

and how about prophet muhammed sawa got also invisible when they tried to search for him while his house was complete under control, And later on they found imam Ali (عليه السلام) in his bed?. 

how about all the events that happened when people actually meeted the imam and then 2seconds later he disapeared?.

Invisible doesn’t mean a new dimension, why can’t it happen in the normal dimensions?

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20 minutes ago, theEndIsNear said:

Invisible doesn’t mean a new dimension, why can’t it happen in the normal dimensions?

soo Djins arent in a different dimension? 

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On 4/8/2021 at 8:52 PM, theEndIsNear said:

So u equate djinn imam Mahdi and khidr ? I feel like u watch too much anime

Abul Hasan Ali bin
Musa ar-Reza ((عليه السلام).) say:
“Khizr ((عليه السلام).) drank from the nectar of life. Thus he is alive and will not die
till the bugle is blown. Indeed he comes to us and he greets us by Salaam. His
voice is audible but he could not be seen. And he is present wherever his name is
mentioned. Thus whomsoever of you mentions him,
must say Salaam to him.
Every year he is present in the ceremonies of Hajj. He performs all the rituals and
he camps at Arafat; says Amen to the prayers of believers. And the Almighty
Allah changes the loneliness of our Qaim ((عليه السلام).) during his occultation into his
companionship and removes his loneliness through him (Khizr)

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On 4/8/2021 at 8:52 PM, theEndIsNear said:

So u equate djinn imam Mahdi and khidr ? I feel like u watch too much anime

I am not a child.

imam al mahdi is a master of jinn and insan. also a master of time and space. 

 

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On 4/14/2021 at 8:33 PM, F.M said:

I am not a child.

imam al mahdi is a master of jinn and insan. also a master of time and space. 

 

Yea but u have some idea that he is in some other dimension like some marvel film, my point is why can’t he be around like a human ? God can do that change his appearance etc doesn’t need him to be invisible or in another dimension 

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39 minutes ago, theEndIsNear said:

Yea but u have some idea that he is in some other dimension like some marvel film, my point is why can’t he be around like a human ? God can do that change his appearance etc doesn’t need him to be invisible or in another dimension 

The one does not rule out the other. Yes, he could be on this plane of existence, but still invisible to us, Allah can do that. But he could also be in another plane of existence very close to ours, making him not visible. The one is not more true than the other, they're just theories.

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This can be certainly the case and yes this is an interesting question. As humans have started exploring the variables of time and space, many new revelations and theories are being unfolded. And i believe, even in the govt of Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام), these very variables of time and space will lead to quantum leaps in advancements of knowledge and wisdom.

 So yes,i have a fair believe that Imam is capable of living in dimensions and travel in time. Indeed it is Allah Almighty who enables His chosen one to achieve knowledge and capability of such things. So be it Khizr (عليه السلام) or the Imam (عليه السلام) , they possess far better capability and strength by the will of God...

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On 4/15/2021 at 5:27 PM, theEndIsNear said:

his appearance etc doesn’t need him to be invisible or in another dimension

Salam , He is among us but he can visible to some people or be invisible at same place & time but nobody recognizes him until he will reappear besides of holy Kaaba to fullfil promise of Allah. inshaAllah.

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