The Kuffar searching for imam Mahdi (as) ??

[F.M]

this got first published on 2013!! (we are now 8+ years further)

During the US occupation of Iraq, it was routine to torture Iraqis in prisons like Abu Ghraib whose prison guards were using tactics learned in Israeli training camps as Robert Fisk pointed out in ‘Abu Ghraib torture trail leads to Israel’; one of the most baffling questions asked during interrogation was “Where is the man called Imam Mahdi where is he hiding?”

According to Mohabat News a pro –Israel Iranian Christian news agency, the fear of the hidden Imam is so credible that they posted news of how the CIA and MI6 have been going to Iraq for the past 20 years to get information about imam Mahdi; how they tortured religious scholars and innocent villagers to ask question-based on where the Imam was last seen? Which city? What time and when will he be coming again and in which year?

American corporate media has already shown sinister documentaries depicting the hidden messiah who is apparently advising Iranian politicians from his lofty hidden position and maneuvering to bring about Armageddon.

So who is this Imam Mahdi that the Zionists controlling the American Congress and the international monetary system on the lookout for with orders to shoot him on sight.

Imam Mahdi is the 12th Shia Imam and according to Islamic hadiths is in ‘occultation’ or hidden and will return to earth to establish peace and justice on earth. He was born on July 29 869 in the city of Samarra, Iraq and his mother Nargis was of Roman descent.

He was kept hidden from birth till he disappeared because the rulers of the time the Abbasids knew the Prophesy of Imam Mahdi who will bring about a revolt against oppression and tyranny. The Abbasid’s knew that the prophesized one will be the son of the 11th Shia imam, Imam Al-Askari.

In order to kill the child at birth, they kept a close eye on his household, even inspecting the women of the household to see who was with child.

https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2013/08/11/why-is-israel-looking-for-imam-mahdi/

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The bombing  of the shrine of Imam Hassan al- Askari

The Mosque after the first bombing, 2006.

On February 22, 2006, at 6:44 a.m. (0344 UTC), explosions occurred at al-Askari Mosque, effectively destroying its golden dome and severely damaging the mosque. Several men wearing military uniforms, had earlier entered the mosque, tied up the guards there and set explosives, resulting in the blast. Two bombs were set off by five to seven men dressed as personnel of the Iraqi  who entered the shrine during the morning. Following the blast, American and Iraqi forces surrounded the shrine and began searching houses in the area. Five police officers responsible for protecting the mosque were taken into custody.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_al-Askari_mosque_bombing#:~:text=On February 22%2C 2006%2C at 6%3A44 a.m. (,explosives%2C resulting in the blast.

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i know too that at those times the American government was even trying to find some DNA from the father of our imam (Hassan al askari as) to easilly track him to kill him they tried soo much including digging into the grave. there are numerous narrations and hadith stating that our imam is in constant fear and it looks like the beginning of 2000 is just the beginning. All these articles are complete shocking to read (there are even more of them) .

i thought its important to bring them back up to let people realize our imam is living a hard time.. there is a naration from jaffar al sadiq himself stating that if he lived on the time of imam al Mahdi he would have protected him his whole life.. How about us? if these kuffar were searching for him even before the 2000 and they worked really hard to find him, do we think they just gave up? do we think they arent going to use the newest technology to find him? day by day they are busy trying as much as possible to find him to stop him. 

lets we all discuss this, may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) make us amongst the 313

 

[layman]

When both opposite groups, the followers and Enemies (including non Muslims)  are seriously look for Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام)  that would be a good sign.

Meaning, the groups that seeking for the return of Al Mahdi have shown progresses and scare the hell of enemies of real Islam.

The enemies also will try to kill / destroy current influential figures / leaders / military forces that believe in Al-Mahdi.

All these efforts by enemies will fail because the communications between Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) and his followers are also hidden and super secret.  Those among followers of Imam (s),that expose the communication will be termed as "lier".  Meaning, those who has communication with Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) will never expose themselves.  But they are interconnected.  It will be impossible to know the 313 selected people.

[F.M]

guys are there also some older evidence it all happened that the they were searching for imam al mahdi??

please send it I need it as evidence

Edited March 6, 2021 by F.M

[Eddie Mecca]

I remember reading this news item when it was first published in 2013...kuffar believe in Imam Mahdi (a) more than the Muslims do

Edited March 8, 2021 by Eddie Mecca

[F.M]

11 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

I remember reading this news item when it was first published in 2013...kuffar believe in Imam Mahdi (a) more than the Muslims do

exactly and i am also sure they didnt just stop searching for him....

[lissenma]

I remember ages ago I saw a video of a sheikh making a public speech about how the pentagon had a huge files about imam mahdi, and that the imam was the most wanted man.

The sheikh passed away some few days later. According to some he got assasinated.

I can't remember the name of the sheikh, nor find the video

[The Green Knight]

Pharaoh also knew that someone will destroy him and his false godhood, end his similarly long run of his power and desires, and one day he was told such a man is about to be born in the tribe of believers so he ordered that all male newborns be killed and kept doing this. But then what happened? Didn't God protect Moses (عليه السلام) in a stunning manner and Pharaoh's extreme and not only his best efforts were of no avail at all but God made him bring up Moses himself at his own house? Its really stupid of them to search for the Mahdi (عليه السلام). They should instead stop murder, robbery, destruction and all their evils and submit. Repent and do good deeds instead.

[Abu Hadi]

On 3/6/2021 at 5:32 PM, F.M said:

guys are there also some older evidence it all happened that the they were searching for imam al mahdi??

please send it I need it as evidence

Unfortunately, there is not much direct evidence for this. A former work colleague  of mine, let's call him Mr. Jones, was a former CIA operative who worked in the office that gathers foreign intelligence from the Middle East. In that office, it is an 'Open Secret' within that office that one of the main missions of US / British intelligence overseas is to gather information on Imam Mehdi to try and locate him(a.f.s). This has been going on for a long time now, he said probably since the 1960s. It kicked into high gear after the Islamic Revolution in Iran in 1979, because the CIA believes that Imam Mehdi is actively advising certain well known figures (Imam Khomeni, etc) and that he has , they believe, advanced sorts of technologies, which they don't know how they work, to gather information that noone should know about and is giving it to these people. When he told me about this, he didn't know I was muslim, and Shia (because by the way I look or my name you wouldn't be able to tell ). Anything related to this is considered Top Secret, meaning the information can never leave the office, even if someone files a FOI request. He said that if anyone speaks out about this(withing the agency), they will be terminated, and if they go public they will be publicly discredited in the press and humiliated. It came up in a casual conversation and noone else was there except me and him. I didn't ask him to tell me about this. As soon as they found out I was muslim (My boss saw me making Salat), I was fired. 

In addition, I knew a brother who was in Iraq, in the US Army who later became muslim and Shia. He also confirmed to me that they were given order to gather any intelligence they could on Imam Mehdi, specifically, and they would interrogate people, on a regular basis, whom they thought had some knowledge of his whereabouts, or other information about the technologies that he uses. Again, within the CIA this is an open secret which is not to be discussed in public, but people discuss it sometimes, with bad consequences. So they are fully aware of the existence of Al Qaim, Al Hujjat, and his rank and are actively looking for him. I am sure of that. The sources I heard this from didn't know each other, and they all told me basically the same thing. I don't believe in conspiracies, in general, but this is one of those that I have enough evidence personally, to believe it is true. I don't care if other people believe me or not. Even saying this much, here, I am putting myself at risk, but I don't care. I think brothers and sisters should know this. 

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Abu Hadi

[Berber-Shia]

(Disclaimer I have no concrete evidence, this is still theory territory)

Most people would dismiss this type of info as nonsense, but let's not forget the many rumors that intelligence agencies and other shadow organisations dabble in the esoteric unknown. It is no surprise that they would seriously look for someone like the Imam knowing that they actively try to deal with interdimensional beings, i.e. djinns, (aka Aliens for the common folk).

(MK Ultra for reference.)

[Gaius I. Caesar]

1 hour ago, Abu Hadi said:

Even saying this much, here, I am putting myself at risk, but I don't care. I think brothers and sisters should know this. 

If you are certain that you are at risk, did it honestly need to be said or written? No, it did not. That was very irresponsible of you, regardless of the indirect evidence. Not only you endangered yourself, you endangered your colleague and as well as anyone reading your post. Think about it, brother.

[Abu Hadi]

15 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

If you are certain that you are at risk, did it honestly need to be said or written? No, it did not. That was very irresponsible of you, regardless of the indirect evidence. Not only you endangered yourself, you endangered your colleague and as well as anyone reading your post. Think about it, brother.

I don't know for sure. If I knew for sure, I wouldn't have posted that. I did not give any specifics or names. If I did, then I'm pretty sure I would be. But what that also means is that there is no way for others to objectively verify what I am saying, which is the point (for the kuffar). They don't want anyone to be able to objectively verify claims related to this subject. That way, most people reading this will just think I am another 'Cook' or 'Tin Foil Hat' conspiracy person like the QAnon people. If the other Shia brothers and sisters reading this don't believe me, I don't blame them. If I didn't personally experience these things, I probably wouldn't believe me (you know what I mean). At the same time, for us Shia, it is an article or our faith that we must believe in the existence of Imam Mahdi(a.f.s). So whether they believe me or not, it is still a reality. 

If people had a way to objectively verify the claims, it would become clear to most people, even non muslims, that the Mahdi(a.f.s) is not some fairy tale or story like 1001 Arabian Knights, but is a real thing. Those at the top already know this, but they are covering it up (i.e. the definition of the word 'Kuffar', to know the truth and to cover it up). 

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Abu Hadi

[Guest Molana Tintin]

Thank you for posting this information. Sometimes we Shia of Imam Mahdi AF forget that there is a reason that Imam was forced into hiding by Allah and the only reason has always been the security of the Imam. There is absolutely no other reason for his forced hiding. 
 

I’ll add more though, the Shayateen from both genres, humans and jins are on the lookout for Imam for centuries. I’m sure no SC’er doubts the famous cry of Iblees when the Prophet S made the first invitation to Islam and Imam Ali heard it, or the event of Saqifa when Iblees was one of those who did bayah on the hand of the first caliph, or when he showed up to Nabi Yusuf and his brothers, or when he came to Ibrahim and Ismael, and to Nabi Moosa in human form, or in the shape of a snake biting the feet of the 4th Imam to test his concentration in sujood.

I remember back in late 90s, when the 2nd wave of Iraqi immigrants were forced out of Saudi, a whole lot landed all over the world. Among them I met an alim, whose whole family had been murdered by Saddam, he himself fled to Syria from where he immigrated out. I used to ask him the same question of how come Saddam was secure in Iraq, after so much bloodshed? I mean he was just a human, and any basic security lapse could have him shot by a random Iraqi. And his answer always used to be how he was helped, informed, literally provided for by the legions of shayateen among jins, in addition to thousands of human loyalist he had around him to secure him and his evil regime. 
 

Look at our human history. No evil scheme of humans has ever succeeded without the active help of shayateen among jins, just like no pious cause of humans has ever succeeded without the active help of angels (malaek). You start from the throwing of Ibraheem into fire, to battle of Badr, to Karbala, (to most recently in Iraq and Syria wars), and you could hear, see, or sense the shrieks of Iblees and the works of the angels in breaking or making of human endeavors. 
 

So yes, the physical safety and security of the last Imam has to be the concern of every pious human, because he is the ultimate shield on earth that does and will protect us from each big and small calamity, on individual and global scale. And yes, each shaytan among humans would have his knowingly or unknowingly goal to terminate this last hope of humanity, that is, Imam Mahdi.

None of what AbuHadi has mentioned here is a surprise to me. Those who assisted in chopping 7 ft. tall AbulFadhl Al-Abbas AS (today is his birth anniversary) into a grave the size of a baby’s crib, are still active among us, among the places of global corruption, and their ultimate target is Imam Mahdi.

Let’s not live in a lala land, these efforts to hurt him and also to protect him, are as obvious the facts as the day and night around us (ever wonder why our maraje don’t meet 90% of the world leaders?).

Our job is to live this reality in our daily lives, make an active effort to talk about him, to keep Imam’s presence active among us, in our homes, in our children, in our Duas, in the continuous Salam that we send his way after every salat; lest they and us forget our duty towards him once he makes the call to assist InshAllah.  

[Guest guest]

The search for Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) is not a new thing. A book called "The Mahdi" was written in 1981, but you can be sure that such a book couldn't have been written unless the author already knew about the search. The point of the novel was to find the Mahdi, replace him with their own guy and fool and rule over the Muslims.

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235050798-so-soon/?do=findComment&comment=3062216

[lissenma]

@Abu Hadi

Thank you brother abu hadi for sharing your story, I do believe what you said! Reading posts like that strengthens my faith to my imam and reminds me my duty to him (عليه السلام).

You did mention some very interesting things:

3 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

In that office, it is an 'Open Secret' within that office that one of the main missions of US / British intelligence overseas is to gather information on Imam Mehdi to try and locate him(a.f.s). This has been going on for a long time now, he said probably since the 1960s.

This shows us that the enemies of ahlul bayt are spending millions probably billions each year to gather information on imam mahdi. Why is he such important figure for them? what do they know about him? why do they believe in his existens and yet are opposing him?

I wouldn't be suprised if the enemies of ahlul bayt have far more information about imam mahdi than us shias.

3 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

and that he has , they believe, advanced sorts of technologies, which they don't know how they work

100% I believe in this. There are many secret technologies that are not public, some that would make the lifes of millions easier and better and some that could be deadly.
I believe the ultimate technologies is with the imam, how else can he have survived for over 1000 years and be a young healthy man. This blessing is from Allah, and the blessing is might also be in the form of technologies given to him. I don't know which technologies these are, I can only speculate.

we have heard many stories of prophet sulayman, prophet musa, prohet isa, prophet muhammad, we call them miracles, but what if what we knew as miracles are actually advanced technologies given to them from Allah.

Allah knows the truth.

 

[F.M]

@Abu Hadi

thank you for youre story and sorry for my late reply because of busyness.. I put ll my trust on you and that the information you have sended is true and Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) knows the best.  I was completely shocked reading it but at the same time i wasnt surprised because i have seen myself how those elite and the soo called high educated people who have the most important jobs cant be trusted. soo yes its making sense they try really their best to find Imam al mahdi on the same way the pharaoh tried to find musa (moses)

I am also sure they keep lots records and narrations about him and am also sure they are 1000x more knowledgeable about everythings that is connected to prophets,imams etc.. because we all know lots books got stolen from the muslims,christias and jews that caused lots people to be ignorant about such things. my mom used to say that Barnabas is one of the least examples, where has been clearly stated that jesus didnt died and the name of prophet muhammed sawa was mentionend and predicted in it!!, it was known to be written on a different way that isnt compared to the other biblical scriptures. that caused lots people to get killed if they knew something what was witten in it!!

Barnabas isnt the only lost book i am sure many many many books got stolen and lost until a level no body knows about it anymore, including the islamic books. especially the books that mentions detailed about the end of time including about imam al Mahdi ajf (that can be the reason why we lack lots knowledge about it). Places like vatican are for sure keeping lots of stuff hidden. may god curse them

And if we go back to the topic about imam Mahdi.. I am sure they didnt stop, they search more and more for him and trying soo much their best as never happened before 

41 minutes ago, lissenma said:

100% I believe in this. There are many secret technologies that are not public, some that would make the lifes of millions easier and better and some that could be deadly.
I believe the ultimate technologies is with the imam, how else can he have survived for over 1000 years and be a young healthy man. This blessing is from Allah, and the blessing is might also be in the form of technologies given to him. I don't know which technologies these are, I can only speculate.

we have heard many stories of prophet sulayman, prophet musa, prohet isa, prophet muhammad, we call them miracles, but what if what we knew as miracles are actually advanced technologies given to them from Allah.

Allah knows the truth.

this is definetally true, no comment!!  trust me same goes with medical world,they lie to you!! the knowledge we have is nothing and there aren't medicines in the pharmacy that is curing you all of it is just business.. and this will make you wonder and ask? "are humans really that stupid?" answer is "no" they  keep it propably hidden that only the richest of the richest are getting close to it. elseweher imagine 1 pill is replacing all those doctors appointments,surgeries, unneseserally medications that are worth 50k a year and all money you pay at the end at the insurance!! let that sink in..

soo yes if this game is getting played in the medical field i am sure its also played in other fields too!!

46 minutes ago, lissenma said:

I wouldn't be suprised if the enemies of ahlul bayt have far more information about imam mahdi than us shias.

unfortunetally this is the sad reality

 

[Gaius I. Caesar]

2 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

I don't know for sure. If I knew for sure, I wouldn't have posted that. I did not give any specifics or names. If I did, then I'm pretty sure I would be. But what that also means is that there is no way for others to objectively verify what I am saying, which is the point (for the kuffar).

I understand but you should be extra careful, especially since you don't know for sure; It doesn't matter if you were intentionally vague about it, the fact is you are telling us something that is supposed to be secret. Your colleague was very wrong and stupid for telling this supposedly top secret and now you have endangered us all by talking about it. I hope for your sake that it's all hearsay and can't be proven, brother. 

[Abu Hadi]

Thank you brothers for your kind words. To be completely honest with you, when I first accepted Islam, in my early 20s, one of the most difficult things for me was the concept of Imam Mahdi(a.f.s). I am a skeptical person by nature, and I have a hard time trusting people. It was difficult for me to believe that a man born more than 1200 years ago could still be alive and noone knew where he was or even what he looked like after all this time. It was at one of my low points in my belief that I received these signs about the reality of the Imam(a.f.s) and ever since that time, I have not doubted in this. This was an ayat for me, and I'm sure that others have received similar ayat. I obviously have never met Imam Mahdi(a.f.s), nor have I ever seen him in a dream, like some others here have. Maybe if I did, that wouldn't be as big of a proof for me, given my nature, as what actually happened. Allah alim. Salam. 

[F.M]

8 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

I understand but you should be extra careful, especially since you don't know for sure; It doesn't matter if you were intentionally vague about it, the fact is you are telling us something that is supposed to be secret. Your colleague was very wrong and stupid for telling this supposedly top secret and now you have endangered us all by talking about it. I hope for your sake that it's all hearsay and can't be proven, brother. 

honestly I dont care about my life. servant at the service of imam al mahdi aj, I pray every day and night for his protection and to hasten his return. 

this dunya has made me tear up and put me down in soo many ways, its worth to get in life danger as long our imam stayes save...  in my honest opinion the whole world needs to know about imam al mahdi the muslims and kuffar as well.

gettig shaheed on the path of ahlalbayt is the most beautifull thing i can ever imagine. this dunya is nothing but crap and not worth replacing it with 1 holy breath of the life of imam al mahdi AJ

 

now worries @Abu Hadi you did a good job!! may allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you endlesly

Edited March 18, 2021 by F.M

[Gaius I. Caesar]

Just now, F.M said:

onestly I dont care about my life. servant at the service of imam al mahdi aj, I pray every day and night for his protection and to hasten his return. 

this dunya has made me tear up and put me down in soo many ways, its worth to get in life danger to save our imam..  in my honest opinion the whole world needs to know about imam al mahdi the muslims and kuffar as well.

gettig shaheed on the path of ahlalbayt is the most beautifull thing i can ever imagine. this dunya is nothing but crap and not worth replacing it with 1 holy breath of the life of imam al mahdi AJ

That's still irresponsible, you don't know who's behind the screen. You don't know who I am either, I could be anyone. There are safer ways for Muslims or non-Muslims to get to know Imam Mahdi (afts), such as Al-Islam.org or Thaqalayn.net. Being a servant of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and Imam Mahdi (afts) does not excuse recklessness; As for being a shaheed, that is entirely up Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), not you. Sorry for any perceived harshness, yes, life is a difficult test but it is also beautiful and temporary. There are many paths to jihad, becoming a shaheed is not the only jihad.

[Khurasani]

i mean even if we know this we don't ourselves possess a threat to cia nor do we know where Imam Mahdi(عليه السلام) is. So i don't think anybody will be in danger for this and if anybody does dissapear randomly one day it will be more clear for the rest of us and be an unwise move. There isn't any evidence either so it could just be a random internet guy claiming to have experienced crazy stuff which it many times is (not a personal attack to abu hadi).

Edited March 18, 2021 by Khurasani

[Zainuu]

5 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

Unfortunately, there is not much direct evidence for this. A former work colleague  of mine, let's call him Mr. Jones, was a former CIA operative who worked in the office that gathers foreign intelligence from the Middle East. In that office, it is an 'Open Secret' within that office that one of the main missions of US / British intelligence overseas is to gather information on Imam Mehdi to try and locate him(a.f.s). This has been going on for a long time now, he said probably since the 1960s. It kicked into high gear after the Islamic Revolution in Iran in 1979, because the CIA believes that Imam Mehdi is actively advising certain well known figures (Imam Khomeni, etc) and that he has , they believe, advanced sorts of technologies, which they don't know how they work, to gather information that noone should know about and is giving it to these people. When he told me about this, he didn't know I was muslim, and Shia (because by the way I look or my name you wouldn't be able to tell ). Anything related to this is considered Top Secret, meaning the information can never leave the office, even if someone files a FOI request. He said that if anyone speaks out about this(withing the agency), they will be terminated, and if they go public they will be publicly discredited in the press and humiliated. It came up in a casual conversation and noone else was there except me and him. I didn't ask him to tell me about this. As soon as they found out I was muslim (My boss saw me making Salat), I was fired. 

In addition, I knew a brother who was in Iraq, in the US Army who later became muslim and Shia. He also confirmed to me that they were given order to gather any intelligence they could on Imam Mehdi, specifically, and they would interrogate people, on a regular basis, whom they thought had some knowledge of his whereabouts, or other information about the technologies that he uses. Again, within the CIA this is an open secret which is not to be discussed in public, but people discuss it sometimes, with bad consequences. So they are fully aware of the existence of Al Qaim, Al Hujjat, and his rank and are actively looking for him. I am sure of that. The sources I heard this from didn't know each other, and they all told me basically the same thing. I don't believe in conspiracies, in general, but this is one of those that I have enough evidence personally, to believe it is true. I don't care if other people believe me or not. Even saying this much, here, I am putting myself at risk, but I don't care. I think brothers and sisters should know this. 

 

Thanks brother @Abu Hadibut I am not at all surprised. 

In fact, I think they are investing heavily on this. These are the primary reasons we are told to keep some deep talks about Imam al Mehdi (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) as secret. 

May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) protect ypu and bless you and may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) make you enter the Army of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), the army of Imam Mehdi (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف).

[F.M]

lets we all be honest.. secretally we all didnt got surprised that the kuffar were searching that deep for imam al mahdi aj. its just same as prophet musa (عليه السلام) and maybe even worse back then because the pharo'un killed every male child on every odd year.

the difference between imam al mahdi and musa (عليه السلام) is that imam al mahdi is long time ago born and is still living and they know themselves they cant stop it anymore, but yes they try and try to find him. 

I am sure our lives arent in danger the CIA themselves know that we know, they search for him 

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by F.M

[F.M]

12 minutes ago, Zainuu said:

These are the primary reasons we are told to keep some deep talks about Imam al Mehdi (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) as secret. 

which talks? I am sure they hide all scriptures sended by god to the prophets and I am sure they have more knowledge about the imam than we do.. even the hindus have waay more information about him than us, its just soo many books are lost nd caused us to become ignorant  about him and his life. 

[hasanhh]

7 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

Anything related to this is considered Top Secret,

lt is also compartmentalized.

The missionaries are told to listen for anything, too.

Actually, since the God of Noah, Allah -(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). is his wali, as a teaching example l use a hypothetical: The lmam could walk by us wearing a florescent orange robe with a fruit basket on his head and we would not notice because it is not allowed.

 

[313_Waiter]

1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

lt is also compartmentalized.

The missionaries are told to listen for anything, too.

Actually, since the God of Noah, Allah -(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). is his wali, as a teaching example l use a hypothetical: The lmam could walk by us wearing a florescent orange robe with a fruit basket on his head and we would not notice because it is not allowed.

Do you believe Imam (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) has been born (as a Sunni brother)?

[hasanhh]

1 hour ago, 313_Waiter said:

has been born

Yes

[Zainuu]

5 hours ago, F.M said:

which talks? I am sure they hide all scriptures sended by god to the prophets and I am sure they have more knowledge about the imam than we do.. even the hindus have waay more information about him than us, its just soo many books are lost nd caused us to become ignorant  about him and his life. 

Salaam sister,

No. That's not true sister. The reasons are many. By 'we', I don't exactly mean I or you or general public. Even, christians, jews, Hindus etc don't have any good knowledge about Imam (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) on a general level.

By 'we', I mean the people of knowledge. Jurists, Gnostics, researchers, prominent scholars of the age. 

And I don't know how many scriptures they hide but Quran is a proof that nothing has more guidance than Quran itself and no religion is more complete than Islam. 

May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you and help you.

[313_Waiter]

6 hours ago, F.M said:

even the hindus have waay more information about him than us, its just soo many books are lost nd caused us to become ignorant  about him and his life. 

I am not sure if the many different religions know more about Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) but one thing is true, in many religions of the world they are waiting for a savior. The zoroastrians are waiting for Saoshyant, Christians are waiting for Jesus (عليه السلام), Jews waiting for Mashiach (good jews will inshaAllah support and submit to Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام), the bad Jews are waiting for antichrist and building third temple), Buddhists for Maitreya who has reached enlightenment, Hindus for Kalki— who is an avatar of Vishnu and Taoists for Li Hong. 

[Reza]

 

On 3/18/2021 at 9:15 AM, Abu Hadi said:

I don't believe in conspiracies, in general, but this is one of those that I have enough evidence personally, to believe it is true. I don't care if other people believe me or not. Even saying this much, here, I am putting myself at risk, but I don't care. I think brothers and sisters should know this. 

Logically, it makes sense. Awareness of the hidden imam has increased significantly and has high geopolitical relevance, and any agency wouldn't be doing their job if there wasn't some interest on their part. It doesn't sound unreasonable. Just pure speculation.

[F.M]

On 3/18/2021 at 6:43 PM, hasanhh said:

Yes

I am just being curious.. what makes you all (sunnis) think that he is already born? because some sunnis say he isnt. 

did some signs happen? did the sheikh of the mosque say that? 

[hasanhh]

1 hour ago, F.M said:

did the sheikh of the mosque say that? 

No.

1 hour ago, F.M said:

because some sunnis say he isnt. 

This usually part of the anti-Shia hype of the last three-four decades.

Another part is to discourage people from getting pre-occupied with this. So hadith -such as "if you think the World will end tomorrow and your intention is to plant a tree, plant the tree"- are often quoted.

[Abu Hadi]

4 hours ago, Reza said:

Logically, it makes sense. Awareness of the hidden imam has increased significantly and has high geopolitical relevance, and any agency wouldn't be doing their job if there wasn't some interest on their part. It doesn't sound unreasonable. Just pure speculation.

That there is interest in the idea of Imam Mehdi(a.f.s) isn't really that hard to believe. The US government, as most people know, has vast amounts of resources to investigate everything from alien space craft to the Loch Ness Monster. There are files on all of these, I'm sure though I haven't seen them. What was new to me was two things. First, there are stiff penalties in place for anyone who mentions this subject, or goes public with any kind of information about it, even trivial information. That isn't the case for those other things. For the Loch Ness monster, for instance, people have filed FOI (Freedom of Information act) requests for information on this and have received thousands of pages of documents from official US Government files. These are freely available online and people discuss this all the time, even though there is very little evidence that the Loch Ness monster actually exists. So this is treated differently than other things. 

Second, that Platoon sized forces were going all around Iraq in the early 2000s, pulling people out of their houses in the middle of the night and interrogating, sometimes torturing them, to get information about Imam Mehdi(a.f.s). This is something I have never heard of before, for a man who according to them, doesn't exist. To put American Soldiers in harms way in a combat zone with a specific mission for this means that they have very credible and very specific information Imam Mehdi(a.f.s) that we don't have. They wouldn't use these kinds of resources otherwise. What information that is, I don't know. Even the brother who I mentioned previously didn't know, but he knew that he was out on patrol in a combat zone, in harms way, looking for something. 

[lissenma]

12 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

That there is interest in the idea of Imam Mehdi(a.f.s) isn't really that hard to believe. The US government, as most people know, has vast amounts of resources to investigate everything from alien space craft to the Loch Ness Monster. There are files on all of these, I'm sure though I haven't seen them. What was new to me was two things. First, there are stiff penalties in place for anyone who mentions this subject, or goes public with any kind of information about it, even trivial information. That isn't the case for those other things. For the Loch Ness monster, for instance, people have filed FOI (Freedom of Information act) requests for information on this and have received thousands of pages of documents from official US Government files. These are freely available online and people discuss this all the time, even though there is very little evidence that the Loch Ness monster actually exists. So this is treated differently than other things. 

Second, that Platoon sized forces were going all around Iraq in the early 2000s, pulling people out of their houses in the middle of the night and interrogating, sometimes torturing them, to get information about Imam Mehdi(a.f.s). This is something I have never heard of before, for a man who according to them, doesn't exist. To put American Soldiers in harms way in a combat zone with a specific mission for this means that they have very credible and very specific information Imam Mehdi(a.f.s) that we don't have. They wouldn't use these kinds of resources otherwise. What information that is, I don't know. Even the brother who I mentioned previously didn't know, but he knew that he was out on patrol in a combat zone, in harms way, looking for something.

So if the enemies of ahlul bayt have far more information about the imam than us, what is there left for us to do?

[guest 2025]

5 hours ago, lissenma said:

So if the enemies of ahlul bayt have far more information about the imam than us, what is there left for us to do?

Strive to be the best Muslims we can be and regularly pray for the return of the Imam. It also wouldn't hurt to establish a relationship with the Imam. That's what I think we should be focusing on.

[Sirius_Bright]

Some Kuffar believe in Imam Mahdi (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) more than some Muslims. Yesterday, Mutawakkil searched for our Imam (عليه السلام) and today other oppressors in the world are searching for him. With that being said, we should always remember world is not black and white. Yesterday, the Jews who were waiting for Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) for centuries turned against him when he proclaimed his Prophethood while many Kuffar believed in him. There will be people amongst Imam's (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) followers who will turn away from him while many others will come towards him. It shouldn't matter if the rebellions have amamah on their head or long white beard. 

We should gain his (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) Ma'refat and enliven his remembrance and always pray to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to keep us steadfast before and after reappearance.