Are you going to take the vaccine?

[Syed.Dynasty]

2 hours ago, F.M said:

examples? which scholars are higher that Ayatullahs?

She’s attempting to be humorous and throw shade at ppl who profess their love for Imam Al Mahdi.

[lissenma]

2 hours ago, F.M said:

There are no medicines that cure a human only to delay his death. if you talk about cancer patients then yes they pay huge amount of money.

exactly, glad to see some open minded and intellegent sisters.

[Diaz]

15 minutes ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

Regardless why do you need someone to tell you that you shouldn’t blindly trust billionaires who have constantly said they want to reduce the worlds population.

What are u talking about?

 

4 minutes ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

Your laughing as if things like this havnt happened before. History oft repeats itself.

Where? Can u share some link?

[Syed.Dynasty]

3 minutes ago, Diaz said:

What are u talking about?

 

Where? Can u share some link?

“We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”

Mikhail Gorbachev

“A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine

“Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac,” and “The elderly are useless eaters”

“World population needs to be decreased by 50%”

"Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries”.

Henry Kissinger

“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”

-Prince Phillip, Queen Elizabeth’s husband, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund

Bill Gates in his TED talk about climate change says a 10-15% reduction in population is needed to get to carbon zero

 

And just one case of vaccine disasters:

 

In 2017, the Philippines stopped a school-based dengue fever vaccination program after reports of complications and several deaths linked to the product called Dengvaxia. The French manufacturer, Sanofi Pasteur, later stated that the vaccine posed a risk to those without prior infection from one of the disease’s four stereotypes. The result was that it actually increased the risk that a child would contract a more severe form of the disease.

[Syed.Dynasty]

9 minutes ago, Diaz said:

 

I suggest you also look at the lecture from the professor that I posted in regards to the capabilities of the mRNA bro. Before you choose a side.

[lissenma]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/vivek-tamil-film-actor-dies-in-chennai-hospital/articleshow/82111036.cms

actor who became indias health ambassador dies 1-2 days after covid vaccine. Urged others to take the vaccine.

This is marketing techniques.

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by lissenma

[Sirius_Bright]

26 minutes ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

We don’t know what this mRNA will do to us as mentioned in other posts :

 

“A mRNA entering my body can change the activity of enzymes, cause upregulation or down regulation of receptors, alter the activity at neuronal synapses, modify the function or hormones, give me cancer, give me diabetes” 
 

This was said by a sister on this site whos a doctor but who isn’t anti vaccs and doesn’t claim to be pro vaxx but argues in favor of the covid vaccs

Interesting. How long will mRNA take to create new cells and began to show changed behavior. For eg. Causing Diabetes. 

Still Pfizer and moderna are mRNA, AstraZeneca, J&J are not mRNA. If someone has to caution they should be specific otherwise not taking vaccine could potentially take life from the disease. These are nothing but conspiracy theories. 

[Sirius_Bright]

Bit chute is far right propaganda site and has anti-vaxers and those who believed there's no Pandemic. Really need to keep away from them. 

[Syed.Dynasty]

4 minutes ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Interesting. How long will mRNA take to create new cells and began to show changed behavior. For eg. Causing Diabetes. 

Still Pfizer and moderna are mRNA, AstraZeneca, J&J are not mRNA. If someone has to caution they should be specific otherwise not taking vaccine could potentially take life from the disease. These are nothing but conspiracy theories. 

Lol dear bro this isn’t the best arguement. Anyhow astra Zeneca has been suspended in many countries because of concerns of blood clotting and strokes. 
 

On April 13, 2021, CDC and FDA recommended a pauseexternal icon in the use of Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine (Johnson & Johnson) out of an abundance of caution while they review data involving a small number of U.S. reports of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) with thrombocytopenia in individuals after receiving Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/janssen/index.html

 

come on bro are you have to at least try to stay diligent.

[Syed.Dynasty]

5 minutes ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Bit chute is far right propaganda site and has anti-vaxers and those who believed there's no Pandemic. Really need to keep away from them. 

Lol yo the video is professor at a military academy talking about the capabilities of the mRNA. It has nothing to with bit chute other than that site is hosting it. He’s a real professor and it’s a real academy, but your gonna ignore everything he’s saying ? Lol where’s the logic in that.

[Syed.Dynasty]

Ya Ahle Tashayyu 

“Look at what is being said, not who is saying it.”

Imam Ali (عليه السلام)

 

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by Hameedeh
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[Sirius_Bright]

18 minutes ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

Lol dear bro this isn’t the best arguement. Anyhow astra Zeneca has been suspended in many countries because of concerns of blood clotting and strokes. 

Side effects are there in every vaccine. We were discussing how mRNA can produce enzymes, cause other diseases, hack your brain, blah blah. If MRNA seems conspiracy to you then why you are targeting others as well. Because of blood clots? Sample size of blood clot is tooo small compared to people dying with covid. 

23 minutes ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

Lol yo the video is professor at a military academy talking about the capabilities of the mRNA. It has nothing to with bit chute other than that site is hosting it. He’s a real professor and it’s a real academy, but your gonna ignore everything he’s saying ? Lol where’s the logic in that.

Maybe mRNA could do those things but all western country vaccines are hacking, causing disease is not proved. So it is nothing but conspiracy. 

[Syed.Dynasty]

43 minutes ago, Sirius_Bright said:

 

Maybe mRNA could do those things but all western country vaccines are hacking, causing disease is not proved. So it is nothing but conspiracy. 

Lol the definition of conspiracy

noun

1. a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

    

    

   43 minutes ago, Sirius_Bright said:

   Side effects are there in every vaccine. We were discussing how mRNA can produce enzymes, cause other diseases, hack your brain, blah blah. If MRNA seems conspiracy to you then why you are targeting others as well. Because of blood clots? Sample size of blood clot is tooo small compared to people dying with covid. 

    It’s important to know who these people are that are pushing the vaccine. The media has lied to us over and over again since the creation of the printing press. The media is controlled by the elite, the elite want population reduction on a massive scale. If the sample size was insignificant than why have all these countries suspended the use of astra Zeneca and why has the CDC and FDA paused to usage of Johnson and Johnson’s vaccine. Clearly to them the danger is not insignificant, you need to examine all sources not just parrot what you hear from the main stream media.

    

   Allah will not accept the belief of anyone who does not accept the wilayah of Hazrat Ali (ع) and one who does not dissociate  from his enemies. 
    

   
    

   but your willing to let those who do not accept the wilayah of Ali experiment on you and your loved ones?

Edited April 23, 2021 by Syed.Dynasty

[Mohamad Abdel-Hamid]

Well I guess Thanos was the good guy after all...

[Syed.Dynasty]

Just now, Mohamad Abdel-Hamid said:

Well I guess Thanos was the good guy after all...

Havnt seen the movie tbh, could you elaborate please dear bro?

[Mohamad Abdel-Hamid]

6 minutes ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

Havnt seen the movie tbh, could you elaborate please dear bro?

Thanos is the main villain, he gathers 6 magical stones and with that power, he snaps his fingers and wipes out 50% of all life in the entire universe.

[BlueInk]

1 hour ago, Mohamad Abdel-Hamid said:

Thanos is the main villain, he gathers 6 magical stones and with that power, he snaps his fingers and wipes out 50% of all life in the entire universe.

Well? Hollywood productions and staffers have had a long history with working for government apparatuses, along with military and intelligence organizations within those militaries. 

predictive programming is a useful tool for crowd control. You can see how people are asking for “proof” that Yazid’s followers are literally trying to rework society in such a brazen, violent manner. This has all the hallmarks of Abu Sufyan, the father of speed. May Allah Curse him.

Im sure you can see for yourself.

[BlueInk]

1 hour ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

Lol the definition of conspiracy

noun

1. a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

    

    

    It’s important to know who these people are that are pushing the vaccine. The media has lied to us over and over again since the creation of the printing press. The media is controlled by the elite, the elite want population reduction on a massive scale. If the sample size was insignificant than why have all these countries suspended the use of astra Zeneca and why has the CDC and FDA paused to usage of Johnson and Johnson’s vaccine. Clearly to them the danger is not insignificant, you need to examine all sources not just parrot what you hear from the main stream media.

    

   Allah will not accept the belief of anyone who does not accept the wilayah of Hazrat Ali (ع) and one who does not dissociate  from his enemies. 
    

   
    

   but your willing to let those who do not accept the wilayah of Ali experiment on you and your loved ones?

Allaho Akbar brother. You deserve a magnificent reward.

CIA creates the very term conspiracy theory. Then disseminates the buzzword, then uses it to call those viewpoints deemed by them as unacceptable as conspiracy theorists.

 

people are not paying attention to the very words they speak. They’re looking at perceived nominal notions which have nothing to with anything but turning attention away from the message.

 

”you’re a conspiracy theorist”

We are literally informing you of a literal conspiracy made by literal enemies of Aale Muhammad, who quite literally take Iblis for Allah, who quite literally want to kill you.

is the enemy’s strategies going to leave room open for those depending on Ibleesi societies to see how flawed and false the Ibleesi information networks will be?

 

you can say what is considered factual yet not be on the truth. 
 

why ask those Ibleesi agents, who are at the very best indifferent to Imam Husayn? Don’t be so intellectually lazy as Sunnis who view Muawiyah and Yazid’s hatred for Aale Mohammed as little more than a family feud between large clans.

 

Did our Lady Zainab as not crush Yazid’s argument within his own court? Did she not capture the enemies in the heart of their power, who thought they had captured her?!
inshallah, we will do the same here. Let everyone see.

[Syed.Dynasty]

On 4/22/2021 at 9:17 PM, Mohamad Abdel-Hamid said:

Thanos is the main villain, he gathers 6 magical stones and with that power, he snaps his fingers and wipes out 50% of all life in the entire universe.

Lol whoah their thanos is bill gates???????

[BlueInk]

3 hours ago, notme said:

I've had my first dose. Second one is scheduled for the end of this month. My arm was sore, but as I understand, the side effects are worse with the second one. I'll be ready for that. My husband had both doses and no side effects at all beyond the normal sore arm. 

Our duas are with you and your husband.

have you noticed anything unusual?

grown extra limbs, for example?

 

anyone else taken it?

let us wait and see the results of this human experiment.

time will tell. All will be revealed as Allah promised.

Edited April 23, 2021 by BlueInk

[notme]

4 minutes ago, BlueInk said:

have you noticed anything unusual?

grown extra limbs, for example?

No extra limbs, no. But I've got a tail now. It's prehensile so I'm finding it very useful. I recommend everyone get one, but especially people who are parents of small children. 

 

 

(I hope everyone realizes I was joking. No, nothing has changed in either of us, nor in any of the dozen or so other relatives and friends of mine who have already taken it, nor in any acquaintance or online friend as far as I know.)

[Abu Nur]

3 hours ago, lissenma said:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/vivek-tamil-film-actor-dies-in-chennai-hospital/articleshow/82111036.cms

actor who became indias health ambassador dies 1-2 days after covid vaccine. Urged others to take the vaccine.

This is marketing techniques.

 

Everything is marketing and zionist plots.

[Abu Nur]

Quote

Lol dear bro this isn’t the best arguement. Anyhow astra Zeneca has been suspended in many countries because of concerns of blood clotting and strokes. 

What is the reason why EU do not want the astra zeneca? Blood clotting? No, because they did not kept their promise to send them in Time where they could use them on those who already died on virus.

Edited April 23, 2021 by Abu Nur

[Syed.Dynasty]

15 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Everything is marketing and zionist plots.

Perhaps not everything but you can’t ignore that they have the money and the power to do what they want. Especially when even the Shia, who should know by now not to dismiss all theories as nonsense, jump when they say jump.

 

8 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

What is the reason why EU do not want the astra zeneca? Blood clotting? No, because they did not kept their promise to send them in Time where they could use them on those who already died on virus.

Got the link fam?

[Syed.Dynasty]

6 hours ago, Diaz said:

This is where we reach now, people are scared from the vaccine more than the virus itself. Promoting something without prove and evidence is so stupid. Spreading rumors in Islam is haram. Btw if u don’t want to take the vaccine, don’t take it but pls remember if someone died because of u, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will punish u so good luck and may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) protect us all. I’m talking to everyone not only to a specific user. 

Anyway, my cousin took his vaccine few days ago, he had fever and now he is fine alhamdulillah. Still waiting for my turn. 
 

edit:- for anti-vaccine ppl, pls wear ur mask daily, wash ur hand properly and keep ur distance away from strangers.

  
I totally agree since this vaccine is a experiment promoting without knowing the long term effects is extremely foolish. Especially when there are other remedies readily available.

 

 For AAV (anti anti vaxxer) people I suggest looking into remedies that actual fight the virus and it’s variants. Don’t be so hasty to follow the masses into an experiment by those who hoard the worlds wealth.

Edited April 23, 2021 by Syed.Dynasty

[Abu Nur]

8 minutes ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

Perhaps not everything but you can’t ignore that they have the money and the power to do what they want. Especially when even the Shia, who should know by now not to dismiss all theories as nonsense, jump when they say jump.

 

Got the link fam?

Theory need to have good and valid proof. This is where people lack valid evidence and instead they go to conjecture and spreading It as some kind of being truth. When people are not sure, then they need to be silent.

As for the link. EU now want to sue them lol.

Edited April 23, 2021 by Abu Nur

[Syed.Dynasty]

59 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Theory need to have good and valid proof. This is where people lack valid evidence and instead they go to conjecture and spreading It as some kind of being truth. When people are not sure, then they need to be silent.

As for the link. EU now want to sue them lol.

Interesting although that is an British source and since oxford made astra Zeneca maybe they have an interest in depicting the story in such a way. What your saying is true. for someone to say vehemently that it’s best to get that vaccine when we have no idea if we’ll be harmed by it is nonsense. Especially seeing as these vaccines do not combat variants.

In Canada they aren’t allowed to call the vaccines a treatment cuz it’s still known that these are just vaccine candidates.

ISED (Innovation, Science and Economic Development) Canada’s social media manager wanted to write this tweet.

 

“We’d like to tweet out the following for tomorrow’s announcement: 

“#GoC announces funding for two #COVID19 vaccine candidates, keeping Canada at the forefront of the global race to find a treatment @PrecisionNano @medicagoinc.”

but it wasn’t allowed:

“Treatment would be associated with a therapy. These firms are doing vaccines candidates. [Staffer Rodrigo Arancibia] knows best but maybe we use words like ‘fight’ or ‘prevent’ or ‘combat COVID-19’.

in the end they went with:

#GoC announces funding for two #COVID19 vaccine candidates, supporting Canada’s capabilities in leading-edge vaccine technology. ow.ly/uSX550C0Y8t 
@PrecisionNano @medicagoinc

Edited April 23, 2021 by Syed.Dynasty

[Syed.Dynasty]

Even the way they have to play with the words is suspicious. This shows that for anyone to say that this vaccine fights the virus is in itself conjecture. So since this is the case everyone who’s pushing the vaccine, the AAV’s, should also be silent too no?

Edited April 23, 2021 by Syed.Dynasty

[F.M]

7 hours ago, Sirius_Bright said:

I'm not sure if I understand your question but my response was to someone mentioning people being treated as lab rats (to experiment vaccines). My point is - if that's the case then why forbid only western produced vaccines, forbid every vaccine. All vaccine got similar time. Why is Khamenei selectively targeting them and tagging as dangerous. It is nothing but political issue. Infact, many shias living in western countries would not take the vaccine and risk their and loved ones life because of one statement. 

ok so? make up is tested on rats, medicines which we designed are tested on lab rats, i also used to decompose on even other animals, and many many other researches are tested on rats and even other animals. 

which shias are negkecting vaccins because of that? all shias /other people dont take the vaccine because of whole other reasons. 

7 hours ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Side effects thing came because people are already hesitant towards vaccine and an influential person amongst shia is tagging it as dangerous. 

I have no idea if you are aware of it, but people die of the vaccine. yes they are in less, but the people who die from covid are also in less. 

its still not a reason why i woudnt take the vaccine.

7 hours ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Take example of brain tumour.

If the patient is operated and the operation is successful then he gets a life. He may/may not develop again. If the operation fails, he is gone. If he doesn't operate, he's dead. 

Notice, inspite of being such a risk of death in operation, he goes for surgery and does not ask for fatwa. Same logic for vaccine. You don't need fatwa.

lots patients even die of the treatment instead of the ilness.. i am not saying to not take the treatment. but people die everywhere of every reason. we humans are made to die even if its trough ilness or treatment. 

in general the treatments we have like chemo are overdone, because people come up for example with brain tumor as what you said, then why should the wholebody be into chemo?? as collegues we had soo many discussions about it because its stupid that some people come up with stomach tumor and we should put the whole body into huge diffivulties to treat only 1 part. We have also heared that there odes exist medicines already even long time ago, that if you take those  pills you can be fully recovered, without feeling weakend and losing sooooo many many money on the treatments. 

life is just onfair, because secretly the industries dont want to bring up those medications because it will bank rub the whole hospital and the pharmacies will earn much less moeny. and this thing applies for almost all ilnesses 

7 hours ago, Sirius_Bright said:

100+ million already vaccinated and alive in US alone. Dangerous or lifesaving? 

how do you know that???? in the pharmacy when i used to work we even new that simple products like some gels can actually show up side effects after years. same goes with lots other  medicines, they show huge side effects after years. 

[F.M]

9 hours ago, pisceswolf96 said:

Because he's a nasty politician

 

9 hours ago, Diaz said:

We all know he said it’s forbidden to take the vaccine because of political reason and not health reason. 
 

 

first of all towards both of you!! islam is always connected to politics, either youre on the side of abu sufyan and his system or at the side of ahlalbayt

[F.M]

6 hours ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Side effects are there in every vaccine. We were discussing how mRNA can produce enzymes, cause other diseases, hack your brain, blah blah. If MRNA seems conspiracy to you then why you are targeting others as well. Because of blood clots? Sample size of blood clot is tooo small compared to people dying with covid. 

I guess AIDS was also a side effects from the vaccines that the americans brought to iranians.

I guess syphilles was also just a side effect from the vaccines when america offered the africans vaccines for free. 

same goes with yuguslavia, and many many more countries how they offered free vaccines and were promoting it in all seriousnes and it showed up they infected themselves with deadly ilnesses that showed up immedially or after a year.

and last but not least, since when did prophet muhammed sawa and ahlalbayt used to say to trust on the kuffar/mushrik regime????????? they also used to say to never immitate them and follow them. 

[F.M]

7 hours ago, lissenma said:

can you provide source sister? thank you.

its from the site of sayed sistani there was a pdf

7 hours ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

She’s attempting to be humorous and throw shade at ppl who profess their love for Imam Al Mahdi.

which is actually normalized, and a sign for his return. by change i asked some sayeds and a sheikh i knew about the return and we discussed, and they said that people will actually show such behavior and that actually the righteous will be taught upon. looks like  coincidence. 

And whats wrong with serving imam al mahdi, this is how our whole religion is based on. serving our imam masoom.

7 hours ago, lissenma said:

exactly, glad to see some open minded and intellegent sisters.

Because the others belief what is said from prophet TV . While i talk from my own experience. 

[F.M]

7 hours ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

13 hours ago, Diaz said:

Well brother someone said America are using the real vaccine and sending different ones to Middle East so that they can kill us 

 

Khamenei also tweeted that “given our experience with France’s HIV-tainted blood supplies, French vaccines aren’t trustworthy either.”

That was a reference to a scandal in the 1980s in which blood infected with HIV was distributed in France, and later abroad, even after the government became aware of the problem.

Hundreds of people in Iran were among those infected.

France’s then-Prime Minister Laurent Fabius was charged with manslaughter, but acquitted in 1999, while his health minister was convicted but never punished.

https://thearabweekly.com/khamenei-bans-us-british-and-french-vaccines-despite-pandemics-toll-iran

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He.He.He.He, right?

Edited April 23, 2021 by F.M

[Sirius_Bright]

7 hours ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

Lol the definition of conspiracy

noun

1. a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful

Yes that what you are implying that billionaire wants to cause disease, reduce population without any sort of proof. So, it is a conspiracy. 

7 hours ago, Syed.Dynasty said:

Allah will not accept the belief of anyone who does not accept the wilayah of Hazrat Ali (ع) and one who does not dissociate  from his enemies. 
 

 

but your willing to let those who do not accept the wilayah of Ali experiment on you and your loved ones?

Do you even know what you are talking about. Taking one hadith and moulding according to your whims. 

[Sirius_Bright]

2 hours ago, F.M said:

I have no idea if you are aware of it, but people die of the vaccine. yes they are in less, but the people who die from covid are also in less. 

its still not a reason why i woudnt take the vaccine

Suppose: 180 people dies of vaccine out of 60 million inoculated. If those 60 million catch covid the number of people dying because of catching the disease would be 1.2 million (2%). 180 and 1.2 million don't even compare. It's not less, it's negligible. 

2 hours ago, F.M said:

how do you know that???? in the pharmacy when i used to work we even new that simple products like some gels can actually show up side effects after years. same goes with lots other  medicines, they show huge side effects after years

Exactly my point. Still you take those medicines. But for covid, you have special reservations.