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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ndtv.com/india-news/farmers-clash-with-cops-in-heart-of-delhi-drive-tractors-into-red-fort-2358223%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off

https://worldnewsera.com/news/violent-clashes-as-indian-farmers-storm-delhis-red-fort/amp/

'A punch in the face of dictators.' Farmers have climbed on the red fort in Indian capital where the republic day ceremony is held. 

The crowd is huge. Reportedly, 5000 tractors constitute just one group and I am still seeing how many are there. 

I have heard that the protestors are around 500,000 but don't know if this is true or a rumor.

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This is not a problem a govt can solve. USA destroys / dumps in the ocean a huge amount of food for the sake of her farners' economic well being and because the capitalism leaves no choice. Although I think India an enemy I hear they give great facilities to their farmers. Crop insurance, subsidized power and fuel, state owned agri machinery, finance schemes, loans, marketing and export help, many concessions. In comparison Pakistan does everything opposite. Its agri depttt simply does not exist for farmers. The govt subsidy is eaten by all echelons of beaurocracy. Price of diesel and electricity is outlandish. Middle men in market make a living on farmers' blood and sweat. Export officials exist in papers only and like 80% of govt employees they exist only to receive salary and don't even show up for work. I'm a farmer and it has been several years and I have not seen or know the name of the agriculture deptt's local official. None in the area have. We contact the retired guy for guidance.Ours is a miraculously walking corpse of a country with all organs shut down and at end of decay. moments away from disappearance so I won't complain. Yet I hear Indian farmers have been committing suicides over the years. Strange.

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On 1/26/2021 at 7:26 AM, Zainuu said:

Farmers have climbed on the red fort in Indian capital where the republic day ceremony is held. 

When l first saw this, l immediately thought these farmers were imitating our Capitol Clamor on January 6th.

:yahoo: "Yeeee-Haaaa. The best politically incorrect statement of the Week."

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1 hour ago, The Green Knight said:

This is not a problem a govt can solve. USA destroys / dumps in the ocean a huge amount of food for the sake of her farners' economic well being and because the capitalism leaves no choice. Although I think India an enemy I hear they give great facilities to their farmers. Crop insurance, subsidized power and fuel, state owned agri machinery, finance schemes, loans, marketing and export help, many concessions. In comparison Pakistan does everything opposite. Its agri depttt simply does not exist for farmers. The govt subsidy is eaten by all echelons of beaurocracy. Price of diesel and electricity is outlandish. Middle men in market make a living on farmers' blood and sweat. Export officials exist in papers only and like 80% of govt employees they exist only to receive salary and don't even show up for work. I'm a farmer and it has been several years and I have not seen or know the name of the agriculture deptt's local official. None in the area have. We contact the retired guy for guidance.Ours is a miraculously walking corpse of a country with all organs shut down and at end of decay. moments away from disappearance so I won't complain. Yet I hear Indian farmers have been committing suicides over the years. Strange.

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No brother. 

Farmers of India are in the worst of state. They loose there everything. Every year so many farmers commit suicide.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/ncrb-data-shows-42480-farmers-and-daily-wagers-committed-suicide-in-2019/articleshow/77877613.cms

Sadly since 2014 when this dictator came in, Farmer suicides data has also been under estimated:

https://www.thehindu.com/data/indias-new-farm-suicides-data-myths-and-facts/article7461095.ece

Farmer crisis in India according to studies:

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/indias-deepening-farm-crisis-76-farmers-want-to-give-up-farming-shows-study-43728

 

The reality is:

1. That there are laws and rules for farmers but they never practically serve the problem.

2. No one is there to implement the already existing farmer welfare laws.

3. Laws are not even known to farmers in a huge amount. 

4. There exploitation is going on for years and yet ignored.

 

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35 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

When l first saw this, l immediately thought these farmers were imitating our Capitol Clamor on January 6th.

It seemed quite similar. And the reality is that this particular incident was not the part of the actual protests. But some RSS goons got mixed up in the crowd and deviated the protests. They went towards the red fort as a result and from then, farmers are being targeted by media and pro-modi people constantly as 'enemies of the nation', 'terrorists' etc.

Though, they did declare that they have no association with those who deviated the protests. 

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14 hours ago, Zainuu said:

The reality is:

1. That there are laws and rules for farmers but they never practically serve the problem.

2. No one is there to implement the already existing farmer welfare laws.

3. Laws are not even known to farmers in a huge amount. 

4. There exploitation is going on for years and yet ignored.

Its sad. We have an afterlife and they don't. They should be happy in this life at least. :( Why the heck India is like that? They are genius people, dedicated, hard working, not hypocrites or Muslay like us who think giving 5 rs to a beggar, a hajj and praying eid salat washes away corruption, oppression and everything. Do they also have Muslay in the key positions of their state? Perhaps this mind boggling squalor and corruption in the subcontinent is a genetic thing instead. Might be the result of being slaves for so long.

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2 minutes ago, The Green Knight said:

Its sad. We have an afterlife and they don't. They should be happy in this life at least. :( Why the heck India is like that? They are genius people, dedicated, hard working, not hypocrites or Muslay like us who think giving 5 rs to a beggar, a hajj and praying eid salat washes away corruption, oppression and everything. Do they also have Muslay in the key positions of their state? Perhaps this mind boggling squalor and corruption in the subcontinent is a genetic thing instead. Might be the result of being slaves for so long.

True brother. True.

And both the nations lie to each other so no one gets the real picture of what's happening.

Here, they say : "India Baap hai Pakistan ka" (India is the father of Pakistan) in order to insult Pakistan. (I don't say that so no offence). But in reality yes, all these practices are the creation of Ancient India before partition that went to Pakistan also. 

Muslims share a lot of culture with Hindus. Our marriages, our social rituals. This sayyid-non-sayyid discrimination is no where in Islam but in the sub-continent because they mimic the castism of Hindus. So, that's true. Though not the part of the topic.

The political condition of the nation is extremely critical, farmer protest is just one small point of a big reality. For 70+ years corruption is huge. But now, it is corruption + Oppression. 

Such situation came before too but now the masses also are highly mobilised by the ruling party which makes it a bit of Majority vs Minority. 

Minorities are constantly attacked by the majority using one or the other excuse. 

11 minutes ago, The Green Knight said:

They are genius people, dedicated, hard working,

Either these genuis people go abroad or they become a stooge of the government. If not this, then they get exploited in a highly corrupt system. Though, many people struggle and live and they are the examples that we hear about. Doing startups, searching for new ideas etc.

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2 hours ago, The Green Knight said:

They are genius people, dedicated, hard working, not hypocrites or Muslay like us who think giving 5 rs to a beggar, a hajj and praying eid salat washes away corruption, oppression and everything. Do they also have Muslay in the key positions of their state? Perhaps this mind boggling squalor and corruption in the subcontinent is a genetic thing instead. Might be the result of being slaves for so long.

There are many genius, hardworking people but their efforts are overshadowed by corrupt politicians and their party workers and it is not limited to BJP. These ministers either remain involved in corruption or busy strategizing for their next election all year round. All play no work. 

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24 minutes ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Farmer's protest is not necessarily a bad thing. Although there's 4 years for next election, BJP is certainly loosing votes. 

I’m just curious brother, Indian Muslims votes for who? Just now I noticed in 2019 Indian election that all the Indian politics are Hindu.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Indian_general_election

 

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9 hours ago, Diaz said:

I'm just curious brother, Indian Muslims votes for who? Just now I noticed in 2019 Indian election that all the Indian politics are Hindu.

They mostly vote for anyone other than BJP. It's mostly Congress which is biggest party other than BJP and present all over India or smaller and local parties like AIMIM, NCP, BSP, Samajwadi party etc. However, many Muslims have voted for BJP. 

Hindu or Muslim politician doesn't matter that much. People vote for a person based on his fake promise, campaign and then see his religion. 

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6 minutes ago, starlight said:

So why does Congress keep losing in the elections?

Congress has lost that 'Biggest party' status now.

There politicians got sold out to BJP. 

Congress is not left with much strength right now.

And this 'losing elections' is a mix up of a lot of dangerous politics by BJP, blind supporters and election frauds.

It was so much clear in 2019 that the election involve a lot of scams which stay hidden because of the sold out media.

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10 hours ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Farmer's protest is not necessarily a bad thing. Although there's 4 years for next election, BJP is certainly loosing votes. 

I cannot say anything about this. BJP turns the tides quite easily in the last moments. 

Also, please watch this:

https://www.facebook.com/102301738269678/videos/736796940275613/

I don't know and I can't claim anything unless I have evidence. But this EVM thing seems to be a part of the fraud. EVM has certain flaws.

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27 minutes ago, starlight said:

So why does Congress keep losing in the elections?

Congress ruled 70+ years. They are riddled with corruption and people have seen it. Tired with them people had to look for something else and BJP came in with fake promises (not all were fake though). Congress still have that image and they don't have strong leader either. 

Another reason congress loosing is local secular parties eating from congress's share of votes. Everytime there's election in a state, congress is expected to get most of the Muslim votes but local parties like AIMIM, AAP and Samajwadi comes in and further reduces congress footprint. 

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3 minutes ago, Zainuu said:

I cannot say anything about this. BJP turns the tides quite easily in the last moments. 

Also, please watch this:

https://www.facebook.com/102301738269678/videos/736796940275613/

I don't know and I can't claim anything unless I have evidence. But this EVM thing seems to be a part of the fraud. EVM has certain flaws.

EVM fraud is true but they can't do that everywhere. Otherwise congress and AAP would not have been present today. 

I agree, 4 years is a lot of time but farmers constitutes major Indian population and people won't forget anything happened directly to them. Still BJP will do something with Pakistan in 2024 and sweep the election again, quite possible. 

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