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Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Transgenderism And Pro-Abortion Arguments (10 min)

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I know he's  pro-Zionist but his anti-LGBT arguments seem pretty airtight. 

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Bismehe Ta3ala 

Assalam Alikum Brother 

I agree with most progressive policies, except their position on the alphabet group and abortion. 

I agree with Ben Shapiro when it comes to the rights of the unborn baby and his stance about trans. His politics are vehemently pro Zionism and obviously he opposes Islam.  

So while there is all this identity politics, do you know of any personalities who are involved in politics and share conservative beliefs?  I've tried to find someone who has a platform and maintain the positions below, but to no avail.  

Marriage between a man and a woman

Anti-imperalism

Anti-war

pro life

Laws against drugs, alcohol, gambling

M3 Salamah, Fe Amin Allah 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The human has more rights than the unborn baby if someone was to approach it from a logical point of view... the only ayatollah who uses a method very identical to that is ayatollah fadlullah. What people need to understand is a persons mental health is extremely important if it’s no good then it leads to all miseries! 

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3 minutes ago, Laayla said:

I agree with most progressive policies, except their position on the alphabet group and abortion.

Exactly, Islam enjoys the best of both worlds because it is socially "conservative" (e.g. family values etc.) and politically "liberal" (e.g. anti-war, civil rights etc.) ...also, Islam encompasses the best facets of socialism and marries them harmoniously with the choicest aspects of free market economy and our religion predates both systems.

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2 minutes ago, Justsomeone said:

Why is he against Islam tho?

He's aligned with the pro-Zionist, pro-white nationalist camp that seeks to demonize and alienate Islam.

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4 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Exactly, Islam enjoys the best of both worlds because it is socially "conservative" (e.g. family values etc.) and politically "liberal" (e.g. anti-war, civil rights etc.) ...also, Islam encompasses the best facets of socialism and marries them harmoniously with the choicest aspects of free market economy and our religion predates both systems.

While I agree with your statement it is important to mention that unlike socialism/communism or capitalism, Islam doesn't engage in or adhere to either liberalism or dialectic materialism. Meaning Islam does not really encompass them but merely shares some similarities in some of those values. This because socialism and capitalism finds its basis in Enlightenment and liberal ideology created by human while Islam comes from the word of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) himself and the Sunnah of the Prophet (sawa). 

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5 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

He's aligned with the pro-Zionist, pro-white nationalist camp that seeks to demonize and alienate Islam.

Being pro-Zionist despite holding socially conservative views is both bizarre and self-defeating, since the same forces that are behind liberal degeneracy (BLM/ANTIFA, LBGTQ+I, abortion, drugs, etc.) also support Zionism. It should also be noted that “white nationalism” has killed more whites than any other single ideology, based on the death toll of World War II at the hands of the Nazis, who in fact were also Zionists who used the Shoah to support migration to Israel, given that Zionists agreed with Christian antisemites on the premise that Jews and Gentiles cannot coexist in the same society and/or state. On the other hand, I think the IRI and the Muslim Brotherhood have politicised Islam and turned it into a promotional for multiculturalism, anti-white racism, and open borders (so long as the newcomers to the West are “Muslims,” leaving leeway for Wahhabi–Salafi infiltrators). Also, neither the IRI nor the MB really opposes capitalism per se, though Western imperialism and the ongoing “Great Reset” (Agenda 2030) are based on capitalism. Given that the Western globalists also want to abolish nationalism and the nation-state, and are even manipulating Muslims and/or Islam—along with other forces—to do so, it is strange to see the IRI support this on the basis of Islam, however grounded in Islam its policy may be. Furthermore, I think the IRI’s politics clashes with Islam on many occasions, given that orthodox Islam, aside from the question of usury and charity (khums/zakat), does not support economic progressivism, anti-imperialism (except against non-Muslims), or even modern anti-racism, given that it seemingly lacks a program to handle the modern situation, presupposing instead a return to premodern conditions.

 

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3 hours ago, Northwest said:

On the other hand, I think the IRI and the Muslim Brotherhood have politicised Islam and turned it into a promotional for multiculturalism, anti-white racism, and open borders (so long as the newcomers to the West are “Muslims,” leaving leeway for Wahhabi–Salafi infiltrators). Also, neither the IRI nor the MB really opposes capitalism per se, though Western imperialism and the ongoing “Great Reset” (Agenda 2030) are based on capitalism. Given that the Western globalists also want to abolish nationalism and the nation-state, and are even manipulating Muslims and/or Islam—along with other forces—to do so, it is strange to see the IRI support this on the basis of Islam, however grounded in Islam its policy may be. Furthermore, I think the IRI’s politics clashes with Islam on many occasions, given that orthodox Islam, aside from the question of usury and charity (khums/zakat), does not support economic progressivism, anti-imperialism (except against non-Muslims), or even modern anti-racism, given that it seemingly lacks a program to handle the modern situation, presupposing instead a return to premodern conditions.

 

Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum Brother,

I had to read this paragraph three times in order to grasp what you are saying.  You have many labels, and to begin just so we are on the same page, do you mind if you can explain some of these labels.  I just want to understand where you are coming from and also how you reached this judgement.

Please when you have time to respond, can you provide the meaning/definition of the following

multiculturalism

anti-white racism

nationalism

Orthodox Islam

economic progressivism

premodern conditions

anti racism

I would really appreciate it brother if you could give the meanings behind these labels, because there is so much information you gave in that paragraph, I wasn't able to understand what you were saying. Thank you so much.

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN ALLAH

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52 minutes ago, Laayla said:

multiculturalism – based on cultural relativism, used as a meme by Western globalists (capitalists) to bring in criminal and/or terrorist elements from, say, “Muslim” parts of Pakistan, Libya, et al., allow them to cause crime, rape, assault, etc. in Western countries, and then either a) blame all Muslims for the actions of Wahhabi–Salafi elements or b) accuse opponents of being “racist” and/or “anti-Islamic” because the criminals happened to be from a “Muslim” ethnicity; multiculturalism is used to support open borders and unrestricted immigration, as is common in, say, Germany and Sweden

anti-white racism – popular among Western globalists (capitalists), in which all problems are blamed solely on white, straight, “Christian” Westerners and anything/anyone else is patronised by the “woke” elite, i.e., blacks, women, LBGTQ+I, “Muslims,” pagans, et al.

nationalism – groups linked to the global financial elite want to break down borders, cultures, nation-states, families, traditional and/or religious values, etc., in order to advance the interests of big capitalists/fascists; opposed especially to patriotism based on organic communities

Orthodox Islam – self-explanatory, based on the essentials elements of Islam that are common/intrinsic to both Sunni/Shia

economic progressivism – working classes taking control of the means of production from the globalist capitalist elite and using the fruits of labour to benefit society as a whole, not just the so-called financial 1%, and eliminate class distinctions as well as capitalist modes of production over time

premodern conditions – i.e., either feudalism or mercantile capitalism such as existed during the Abbasid era

anti racism – opposition to the notion that there are intrinsic, i.e., innate, differences among human beings’ characters, behavioural traits, intelligence (including but not limited to IQ), and so on that are somehow linked to or determine race (biology)

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Kurginyan explained the difference between Trump’s idea to make America great and the US Democrats’ ideas.

Trump’s idea was for the US to strengthen itself: to bring back production, create more jobs, create a more powerful industry, and to dominate the world relying on its national strength. This is a republican idea in many ways,” noted the expert.

For the leaders of the Democratic Party the approach is not to make the US better, but to make things worse around the world, said the political scientist. ...

The Democrats use the raider’s approach as a methodology – “creating more conflicts in the world, ...all the money is moving back to the US, and everything will be fine,” added the expert.

The Democrats’ classic idea is “to keep the US as the same financial empire with weakening production and reliance on marginal social groups – blacks, and any others,” explained Kurginyan.

Democrats “are never actively engaged with domestic politics, they are focused on foreign policy,” stressed the political scientist.

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So both major political parties in the US advance the agenda of the capitalist financial elite, but apply different strategies toward the same goal(s).

 

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12 hours ago, Berber-Shia said:

Islam does not really encompass them but merely shares some similarities

Perfectly stated brother...I agree 100%...it was 2:00 a.m. when I typed out my response and I was groggy...I should have used a better choice of words.

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10 hours ago, Northwest said:

Being pro-Zionist despite holding socially conservative views is both bizarre and self-defeating

Both political parties (i.e. conservatives and liberals) are pro-Zionist.

 

10 hours ago, Northwest said:

It should also be noted that “white nationalism” has killed more whites than any other single ideology, based on the death toll of World War II at the hands of the Nazis

Good point

 

10 hours ago, Northwest said:

IRI nor the MB really opposes capitalism per se

You lost me here...IRI has maintained an anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, pan-Islamist, pro-Third World stance since its inception...MB is theoretically anti-capitalist but lost it's way during the 1950's when they began collaborating with the CIA against Abdel Nasser.

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7 hours ago, Laayla said:

Did you do a personal attack on Ben Shapiro?

He's a schmuck but you can still learn a thing or two from him.

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11 hours ago, Northwest said:

“Great Reset”

I was reading about the 'Great Reset' a few days ago...somebody mentioned it in the comments section on YouTube.

 

11 hours ago, Northwest said:

Western globalists also want to abolish nationalism and the nation-state

Yeah, they want to impose a One World government on the masses

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7 hours ago, Northwest said:

Kurginyan explained the difference between Trump’s idea to make America great and the US Democrats’ ideas.

Trump’s idea was for the US to strengthen itself: to bring back production, create more jobs, create a more powerful industry, and to dominate the world relying on its national strength. This is a republican idea in many ways,” noted the expert.

For the leaders of the Democratic Party the approach is not to make the US better, but to make things worse around the world, said the political scientist. ...

The Democrats use the raider’s approach as a methodology – “creating more conflicts in the world, ...all the money is moving back to the US, and everything will be fine,” added the expert.

The Democrats’ classic idea is “to keep the US as the same financial empire with weakening production and reliance on marginal social groups – blacks, and any others,” explained Kurginyan.

Democrats “are never actively engaged with domestic politics, they are focused on foreign policy,” stressed the political scientist.

Interesting stuff

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11 hours ago, Northwest said:

IRI nor the MB really opposes capitalism per se

Islam is compatible with simplistic forms of merchant capitalism.

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:salam:

We should all be aware that it is part of the Zionist agenda to infiltrate all layers of the society, so it can take it over by gaining popularity from all sides. 

Thus you will find 'conservative' Zionists like that Shapiro guy, and also pro LGBT Zionists like those who set up the gay pride in Tel Aviv.  Politically you will find  pro-Likoud and pro Two-State Zionists and so on. 

Those apparently antagonistic groups are actually working together to carry on their message. The pro Two-State Zionists will even argue against the pro-likouds on TV shows so they show that all Jews are not the same etc... but under the cover you will hear that they choose the Two-State solution so that 'terrorists of Hamas' stop their attacks on the poor honest settlers. 

It's just two different ways of conveying their propaganda and that's how they work, basically. 

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@realizmFor the first time in history we're oxymoronically beginning to see Zionists working hand-in-hand with "white nationalist" (read neo-Nazi) groups...this is absolutely unprecedented...Israel is seen as the ideal ethno-state worthy of emulating and franchising everywhere...strange bedfellows indeed...on the one hand, alt-right supporters praise Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians while simultaneously maintaining an anti-Semitic worldview.

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