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Is it haram for a Muslim to be Communist and a secularist.

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I have been seeing many Muslims say they are Communists on tiktok and twitter. I was wondering if this is permissible. These muslims of course do not agree with State Atheism and Marx's "religion is the opium of the masses". But they do not believe in private property, classes, I think some are anarchists, Most believe sepration of church and state.  Are they still consider pious muslims, or are they commiting big sins with this type of thinking.

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Is there a proscribed Islamic economy?  That would be the correct one, if it exists, and if it does, I'd like more information on it. 

In my opinion, these labels like "communist" or "capitalist" matter so much less than how you actually treat people and interact with your world. 

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Such thinking is rooted in an atheistic and materialistic worldview, I believe most - based on what I have seen - if not all subscribe to such ideologies due to one, or a couple of these factors.

1. They were simply raised as Muslims and ahead of the generic Halal/Haram they don’t really tend to delve deep into their faith and instead use it as a spiritual outlet and cultural comforting net. 

2. Lack of understanding in respect to the correct Islamic economic system, which isn’t solely materialistic. You may presume that such a statement is nonsensical, however, as Muslims the use of our money in a charitable manner or Zakat is a form of Tazkiyyah - which is to purify your wealth.

3.  Many of these Muslims don’t realize that they like a couple of the ideas professed by these ideologies which in some respects parallel an Islamic economic system, so they simply adopt the entire system. 

There is a big difference between likening a couple or many of the ideas promoted by communism/secularism and adopting the entire system. I don’t know why it is so difficult to grasp this? 

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6 minutes ago, Mohammad313Ali said:

Such thinking is rooted in an atheistic and materialistic worldview, I believe most - based on what I have seen - if not all subscribe to such ideologies due to one, or a couple of these factors.

1. They were simply raised as Muslims and ahead of the generic Halal/Haram they don’t really tend to delve deep into their faith and instead use it as a spiritual outlet and cultural comforting net. 

2. Lack of understanding in respect to the correct Islamic economic system, which isn’t solely materialistic. You may presume that such a statement is nonsensical, however, as Muslims the use of our money in a charitable manner or Zakat is a form of Tazkiyyah - which is to purify your wealth.

3.  Many of these Muslims don’t realize that they like a couple of the ideas professed by these ideologies which in some respects parallel an Islamic economic system, so they simply adopt the entire system. 

There is a big difference between likening a couple or many of the ideas promoted by communism/secularism and adopting the entire system. I don’t know why it is so difficult to grasp this? 

Would it be haram to support Secularism?

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I think it is wajib today to be with a system, any system that is not capitalism, imperialism or any ism the west is using to destroy the world. We all should push together as one to topple the wall they have built between us and our freedom. The fundamental socialist and commune concepts have their root in Islam. Imam Ali (عليه السلام) paid for the newborn, the old, the deserving from the government treasury. He used to eat, dress and live the lifestyle like the poorest so he could know and address their problems. Today its opposite. Today people worship the likes of Elon Musk, the wealthiest elite. And hate the homeless. As humans we have to destroy these systems.

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49 minutes ago, Shiabone said:

Would it be haram to support Secularism?

Why support secularism when you can support Islam as a spiritual and political ideology? Anything which promotes Fasad is haram to support, does secularism not promote the greatest magnitudes of immorality? 

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8 minutes ago, Mohammad313Ali said:

Why support secularism when you can support Islam as a spiritual and political ideology? Anything which promotes Fasad is haram to support, does secularism not promote the greatest magnitudes of immorality? 

If you look into Iran you can see many Iranians leaving Islam and becoming against the religion and modesty.

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1 hour ago, Shiabone said:

If you look into Iran you can see many Iranians leaving Islam and becoming against the religion and modesty.

لَقَدْ جِئْنَاكُم بِالْحَقِّ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَكُمْ لِلْحَقِّ كَارِهُون (43:78)

                                                                     Verily we have brought the truth to you: but most of you have a hatred for truth

 

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1 hour ago, Shiabone said:

If you look into Iran you can see many Iranians leaving Islam and becoming against the religion and modesty.

l think these will help in this discussion. Watch the dates for how recent the info is.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/10/5-facts-about-iran   0f those 5, #1 lranians vary in their views of religious leadership; #2 lranians divided over "devoutness".

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/12/02/iran-widely-criticized-in-14-advanced-economies/ 

For more info about lRl, see: https://www.pewresearch.org/search/iran 

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