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@hasanhh he is your leader. The man that you like. And this is what it leads to. "Pelousy"? Why do involve yourself in immature name calling so often? You are older than the majority of us. 

I think the political left, and Democrats who might be tired of foreign wars, need to wake up to the reality that Joe Biden has put together a cabinet consisting almost entirely of militant, neolibera

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On 1/6/2021 at 4:22 PM, hasanhh said:

They were pushing and intimidating police out of the way.

Thursday the 7th, early A.M.

interviewed commentators on BBC and other foreign news broadcasts are starting to ask "hard questions".

  Eric Ham, political analyst, said that the Capitol Police are larger in number than the Atlanta Police Dep't "with a half a Billion dollar budget." He also called the protesters "insurrectionists." He describe the "situation" as a "massive failure" , "a weakness in gov't", tied this to the pandemic, . . . "We have to look at President Trump as an enemy of State . . .at this moment."

Amy Pope, former deputy Homeland Security advisor, asked on BBC how could this happen, especially since people were walking around inside the Speaker's Office, one of the most secure places in the country.

She also stated that "there are robust plans in case the Capitol is overrun" by protesters.

Recommened ~1 minute read:

https://www.nypost.com/2021/01/06/capitol-police-were-seemingly-overrun-by-trump-protesters/ 

She also said on BBC "there are robust plans in case the Capitol is overrun."

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7 hours ago, starlight said:

So I guess some people just blew it out of proportion when they talked about nuclear weapons being unsafe and civil war? It was a just a riot,albeit on a big scale? 

Oh yes, definitely not a war. Just a poorly organized failed attack on the government, ordered by the president. I can't fathom what they thought they were going to accomplish. 

Articles of impeachment have been drawn up, but I don't know if two weeks will be enough time for them to proceed. Can an ex-president be impeached? That wouldn't make any sense. 

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15 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

Capitol Police are larger in number than the Atlanta Police Dep't "with a half a Billion dollar budget." He also called the protesters "insurrectionists."

Have you ever seen Clark Kent and Superman at the same time? But I'm sure it was just a few bad apples who were on photos and video assisting the coup attempting crowd. 

 

16 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

"We have to look at President Trump as an enemy of State . . .at this moment."

This is not a change from the situation over the past four years. Trump's presidency has always been an act of sabotage against the United States. 

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23 minutes ago, notme said:

I'm sure it was just a few bad apples who were on photos and video assisting the coup attempting crowd. 

This demonstration/protest had been on social media for weeks. What l wonder is if these "antagonists"(from above) were actually infiltrators.[added: they were prepared because of this advance knowledge.] That was yesterday. This morning l also add, "Why were the Capitol Police allowing the protesters in?"

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@hasanhh What I mean by it is that now that Trump has played his role as "the bad guy" against the establishment, the TPTB want to set an example to the people that: Here's what happens when you let the "far-right" have their say in the american democracy.

I predict the years to come that many of these figures will be censored or even arrested for treason. And I'm not talking about the GOP since they still are part of the establishment, they just saw an opportunity with Trump. I'm talking about the America-first anti-establishment alt-right types.

With this and the election of Biden I would go as to say that there will never be another "loose cannon" like Trump taking any office let alone the presidency.

Ironic isn't it, people wanted change of the status-quo through Trump, they ended up liking the status-quo even more because of him.

 

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8 minutes ago, Berber-Shia said:

Here's what happens when you let the "far-right" have their say in the american democracy.

 

8 minutes ago, Berber-Shia said:

Trump, they ended up liking the status-quo even more because of him.

These two parts l do disagree with.

"Far" anything is bad for everybody . . . even themselves.

Trump was elected because he promised to enforce existing law, build a wall, get US out of military adventures, and "ordered" the Pentagon to destroy lS when the military wanted a "long war".

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3 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

Trump was elected because he promised to enforce existing law, build a wall, get US out of military adventures, and "ordered" the Pentagon to destroy lS when the military wanted a "long war".

Obviously he still went for the classic GOP policy but he still wasn't really part of the deep state network that many DC officials and politicians are part of. So that was a kind of liability for them, as he could have flipped any second and did in some cases.

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13 minutes ago, notme said:

My lawyer friend wrote this

His factoids are the same as mine above, but his tone and take l find abhorrent. Abhorrent because you say he is a lawyer and he is supposed to know there are specific definitions for words. He just ranted a political mantra in psittaciformic form.

(from Psittaciformes)

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After all the black males who were shot down by the police, it will be interesting to see the reactions now that it was a white right wing female. 

On one hand I want to see if BLM still show outrage. 

On the other hand I want to see if right wingers are as supportive of the police as they usually are in such cases.

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A couple of things "bother" me about yesterday.

There are videos showing people scaling a wall --where there are stakes in the building to climb on, but . . . there are about a hnudred people already on the platform above him and other people are going up the stairs to his right.

Somebody's PR stunt.

Also, l saw Trump speaking to the rally outside the White House. He said to go down and "cheer on" those Senators that will challenge to election results.

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9 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

They ain't innocent. l ain't crying. And it is not a revolution.

A "revolution" with only 2,000 people.

I am kidding. That video was funny. How she says (crying),"We are storming the capitol. It is a revolution."

Btw,

Watch at 4:20 and you will see what cops were doing.

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3 minutes ago, Mahdavist said:

On one hand I want to see if BLM still show outrage. 

l'd rather see the ACLU and other legal action groups get some of these choke holds, knees on neck and other hazardous "police procedures" outlawed.

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9 minutes ago, Mahdavist said:

After all the black males who were shot down by the police, it will be interesting to see the reactions now that it was a white right wing female. 

In the video clips I have seen there were no police around when it happened. And given their general reluctance to use any force it seems very unlikely.

Since everyone there was armed to the teeth, I'd guess a civilian let their gun off accidentally.

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8 minutes ago, Silas said:

a cabinet consisting almost entirely of militant,

The militancy part is what foreign leaders are worried about. ln a foreign news program l saw in December, these leaders were not so much worried about Joe, but "the people around him". [That is an exact quote.]

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11 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

In the video clips I have seen there were no police around when it happened. And given their general reluctance to use any force it seems very unlikely.

Media here are reporting that the shooter was a plainclothes police officer on duty. 

11 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Since everyone there was armed to the teeth, I'd guess a civilian let their gun off accidentally.

That crossed my mind too, but actually most of the terrorists were unarmed, probably because they had arrived by commercial airline. Also, it's illegal to carry firearms onto federal property. 

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3 hours ago, Mahdavist said:

On one hand I want to see if BLM still show outrage. 

Outrage over what? They objected to police using unnecessary violence, not their jobs! If you're going to participate in an attack against the United States government, you're doing pretty well to have only one person killed by law enforcement! 

 

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1 hour ago, Silas said:

Now Trump was an obvious Zionist and hostile towards Iran, but he didn't put together a cabinet that looked anything like the above.

Now why don't you give us a list of all the Jews and Zionists in Trump's cabinet (don't forget some of his closest and most influential people were not even the normal cabinet positions)? And then compare them to the list that you provided? And don't stop with Zionists, include all the war hawks. After that make a list of all those that are anti-war or in support of the JCPOA, from both sides. 

Then we can be intellectually honest and we can do a comparison.

Here is a list to get started: https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/The-top-Jewish-officials-in-the-Trump-Administration-479769

 

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11 hours ago, Mahdavist said:

On the other hand I want to see if right wingers are as supportive of the police as they usually are in such cases.

The commentary from them seems to be one of unfair treatment. I.e.  they let BLM get away with no punishment but they beat up Trump supporters. 

These differing groups need to sit down and try to have calm and mature conversations. We now have groups that live in bubbles and don't even try to see things from differing perspectives.

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48 minutes ago, Silas said:

I think the political left, and Democrats who might be tired of foreign wars, need to wake up to the reality that Joe Biden has put together a cabinet consisting almost entirely of militant, neoliberal, Zionist Jews, who almost unanimously want to destroy Iran. I put up a list a couple months ago, and now I can add to it

Jimmy Dore and Richard Medhurst (leftists/socialists & great journalists) have also now exposed the progressive "fraud-squad" (AOC, Omar, Tlaib, Pressley, etc) for being war-hawlks and imperialists, wanting to destroy Iran, shilling or apathy to Israel, voting in the war criminal pro-drone striker Pelosi for house speaker, voting for the insulting covid relief bill, the imprisonment of whistle-blower Assange exposing the gov't, and they no longer vote for Medicare for all... and the list goes on.

The progressives are acting like neo-liberals. American politicians are virtually never to be trusted. Don't be fooled, progressives are social democrats NOT democratic socialists. All they do is prop up new capitalist failures rather than move towards a post-capitalist (socialist) society.

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I don't know if it is right to post this here. But you can read a forum for Trump supporters:

https://the   donald.win/p/11RhFaHeMh/i-hope-some-of-you-have-finally-/

I have added spaces to stop search engines picking it up.

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The left has no principles whatsoever. It’s useless to try and resist their tyranny while trying to avoid their absurd accusations. No matter what you do, they’ll accuse you of being what they really are (a violent fascist or something). If we demonstrate peacefully they’ll call it an armed insurrection while they burn cities, murder children, and claim it is “mostly peaceful”. Stop caring what leftists are going to say about you. They’re communists who will promote whatever narrative they feel like without any regard to reality. So [censored] optics, [censored] civility. You’re either on the side of the people or you’re on the side of the authoritarian tyrants ignoring the constitution. Fight for what you believe in.

 

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A dark day for America. I support people's rights to a protest against the oppressive US political establishment which stole the elections from the rightful winner and suppressed the will of the people!

No to ballot rigging. No to the fraudulent elections.

#WeWillNeverConcede.

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