Daniel Haqiqatjou Interview with Sunni Discourse: 'From Shia to Sunni' What Did Y'all Think?

[El Cid]

11 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

There's a hadith regarding the 'End Times' that says the people (i.e. Muslims) will stop listening to the true academics and scholars and the popularity of 'juveniles' (regarded to be experts in religion) will increase (paraphrasing). I believe it's referring to the modern-day "da'wah carrier" YouTube phenomenon.

These people like I said just use Islam as a means to get clout in their social media. Some of them are straight up making a mockery as well for example that "Muslim Youtuber" Karim Jovian has videos called "christian girlfriend reacts to quran/azan/xyz". If that guy doesn't find any problem with that title or what he's doing(Obviously he's Sunni and Anti-Mutah), then may the heavens help him. 

All of this is just a fraud display. When any of their videos appear in my youtube feed, I clear my cookies ASAP. No need to pay attention or listen to them in any way or capacity is my advice for all peoples whether shi'a or Sunni.

Edited December 10, 2020 by El Cid

[pakistanyar]

@Eddie Mecca

Do you believe Imam Mahdi will return and enforce beheadings, slavery, and other laws introduced in the context of 600 AD Arabia? Were the laws introduced in 600AD perfect for eternity or for the era considering the context and norms in society? All this is debatable. Here is an article by Muneer Khabbaz on this topic. 

http://www.iqraonline.net/the-fixed-and-changeable-in-islamic-legislation-2/

[Eddie Mecca]

10 hours ago, pakistanyar said:

Do you believe Imam Mahdi will return and enforce beheadings, slavery, and other laws introduced in the context of 600 AD Arabia?

My understanding is Imam Mahdi's movement will be a perfect amalgamation of the best that ancient civilization has to offer with the best modernism has to offer. Both will be fused together to bring about a new futuristic spiritualist era...the aeon New Agers refer to as the 'Age of Aquarius'...it will be something like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Stephen Hawking, Steve Jobs etc. blended harmoniously with the simpler/slower lifestyle of the Amish/Mennonites. My understanding is that al Mahdi (عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ) makes a brief glimpse-appearance before the onset of Armageddon/Malhama al Kubra...he appears (or reappears) during the Hajj season in Mecca near the Ka'bah and gathers his initial 313 followers then he migrates in a northeast direction (I believe to either Syria or Iraq or both)...'Armageddon' is just the 7th century way of saying "World War 3" (i.e. all-out nuclear annihilation between nations) during which approximately 66 - 70% of the earth's population will perish (1/3 killed by "red plague" i.e. warfare immediately followed by another 1/3 killed off by "white plague" i.e. lingering radiation during aftermath)...experts in nuclear warfare say the earth will be engulfed by a layer of smoke/dust which will blot out the sun...see computer simulations and models of various Nuclear Winter scenarios (also read Surah 44 Ad-Dukhan) that will last approximately 10 - 30 years...all vegetation and animal life will perish...insects are highly resilient and adaptive and will endure...all food will have to be grown in greenhouses with artificial light and there will be a period of societal reorganizing and regrouping on all levels...we will find ourselves back in the Stone Age (at first)...but we will regather quickly and within 10 - 30 years find ourselves back in the Middle Ages...there are some ahadith that mention al Mahdi and his companions fighting with bows, arrows, spears, shields, swords and on horseback etc. and to teach future generations marksmanship, hand-to-hand combat and survivalist skills etc...more later in'sha Allah   

Edited December 11, 2020 by Eddie Mecca

[Eddie Mecca]

11 hours ago, pakistanyar said:

Here is an article by Muneer Khabbaz on this topic. 

I glanced at the article quickly...it looks interesting...I'll read it thoroughly when I find some spare time and get back with you in'sha Allah.

Edited December 11, 2020 by Eddie Mecca

[Muhammed Ali]

On 12/9/2020 at 5:23 PM, 313_Waiter said:

I don’t think he could be compared to Hazrat Bahlool (rad) at all. I think he has simply given Islamophobes confirmation about their prejudices against Islam and Muslims as well as sowing discord between Shias and Sunnis.

I am not claiming that their personalities can be compared. Tawhidi is a troubled person. I am just saying that he is very likely to be feigning his beliefs. 

[Eddie Mecca]

11 hours ago, pakistanyar said:

Here is an article by Muneer Khabbaz on this topic. 

Regarding Muneer Khabbaz's scholastic credentials...is he considered a mainstream traditionalist Imami scholar? Did he study in Najaf or Qom? He looks rather young to be an ayatullah...I did a quick Google search and found absolutely nothing on him 

[Eddie Mecca]

On 12/10/2020 at 9:55 AM, pakistanyar said:

Do you believe Imam Mahdi will return and enforce beheadings, slavery, and other laws introduced in the context of 600 AD Arabia?

Reading that article is like trying to decipher the Rosetta Stone...if you're capable of making heads-or-tails of it then you're definitely going places in life...horribly translated...however...do you believe Imam Mahdi is returning to rubberstamp Third World incurred debt to the IMF/World Bank, American Exceptionalism/Manifest Destiny/White Man's Civilizing Burden, Perpetual War doctrine, military–industrial complex (MIC), climate change/global warming, neocolonialism, genocide, LGBTQIA activism, gay marriage, Zionism, AI technologies for global surveillance purposes? One claiming superiority to bygone/ancient peoples simply because he (she) possesses the ability to sip on a frappuccino while surfing the web at the local internet cafe represents a type of generational arrogance that is unbecoming...with all the scientific knowhow at our disposal we still can't replicate the pyramids built by the Egyptians.    

Edited December 12, 2020 by Eddie Mecca

[YaAli.313]

On 11/19/2020 at 11:31 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

Salaam,

Who watched the Daniel Haqiqatjou interview with Sunni Discourse about 3 days ago? What were some of your thoughts, impressions etc.? Personally I like Daniel's arguments against LGBT, postmodernism, atheism, liberalism, feminism and how he champions the Islamic narrative. I disagree with his interpretation of events related to Islamic history and attempting to normalize personalities like Mu'awiyah, Abu Sufyan, Hind, Yazid etc.

May Allāh the Almighty put him with muawiyah in judgement day. 

[Eddie Mecca]

On 12/10/2020 at 9:55 AM, pakistanyar said:

Were the laws introduced in 600AD perfect for eternity or for the era considering the context and norms in society?

Do you believe Islamic law is manmade and relegated to 7th century Arabia or was it divinely revealed (as claimed by Muhammad) and hence applicable for all times, locations and not constrained by time-space??  

[Eddie Mecca]

On 12/10/2020 at 9:55 AM, pakistanyar said:

Do you believe Imam Mahdi will return and enforce beheadings, slavery, and other laws introduced in the context of 600 AD Arabia?

If you believe marriageable age should be 21 years of age for a female then what do you suggest people do during the post-apocalyptic era when life expectancy is 40 years (due to nuclear fallout, radiation poisoning etc.) and marrying young to populate the species is needed once again? 

[Abu Nur]

On 12/9/2020 at 6:43 PM, El Cid said:

Personally I don't like any of these speakers. All these "Islamic youtubers" to me is just a pompous display of ignorance. They aren't interested in anything other than promoting their own selves while using Islam as a means to do so. If you go on their twitter, whether it's this Daniel guy or that Hijab guy or anyone else. They are all abusing and cursing other people on twitter whether it's Shia/Athiest/Chris/Jew/Anyone. It's their way or the high way. Nothing else.

One of the things that I agree with Ayatallah Khameini is that all these issues should be debated by professionals from both sides(Sunni and Shia) with professionals referring to respected Scholars who have dedicated their lives to their sect aka a Mufti/Ayatallah. All of these debates/interviews are just back-alley brawls and street fights where the main topic is just to slander/curse/ridicule. All of Hijab's videos look like rap battles if you mute them or look from afar.

I agree fully with this. Nothing have changed since. Everything seems just soulless talk and I can't see light from them. They argue, criticize and mock each other often. Nothing benefit one can take from these people but just another weird form of entertainment in the name of Islam.

Edited March 18 by Abu Nur

[Ashvazdanghe]

Salam for more information officialy he has not considered himself as Shia Muslim but onthe other hand he has been came from a "liberal secular background " which it doesn't refer to being Shia or sunni muslim although it's a common misconception who comes from Iran is a Shia muslim because Shias are majority there in similar fashion which anyone who comes from KSA will be considered as Sunni Muslim because majority of people in KSA are Sunni muslims which according to his officail Bio he has came from a "liberal secular family" without mentioning that whether he came from Shia or Sunni background.

 

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https://www.alasna.org/

[Guest StillAShia]

On 12/9/2020 at 11:45 PM, Eddie Mecca said:

Here's the interview in it's entirety for those who haven't watched it yet  

 

Wow. The Quran on so many occasions tells us not to call upon anyone but Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Not even for help. Cut the crap with oh ad long as you know Allah gives him the power etc. I’m starting to see that Salafi Islam may be the safer route to Jannah than Shia Islam. 

[Muhammed Ali]

On 12/9/2020 at 3:10 PM, Muhammed Ali said:

Technically he probably hasn't changed his views. He is probably still anti-Zionism. We have the story of Bahlool who used to pretend all the time. Tawhidi has managed to get more attention than the respectable scholars. The question is, is this strategy actually working? 

@Abu_Zahra

You clicked 'disagree'. What are you disagreeing with?

[Abu Nur]

On 3/24/2023 at 7:11 AM, Guest StillAShia said:

Wow. The Quran on so many occasions tells us not to call upon anyone but Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Not even for help. Cut the crap with oh ad long as you know Allah gives him the power etc. I’m starting to see that Salafi Islam may be the safer route to Jannah than Shia Islam. 

Calling upon Muhammad (saws) in Du'a is found in authentic Sunni narrations (You will also see great evidence how it is found in Sunni Islam). 

Edited March 27 by Abu Nur

[313_Waiter]

6 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Calling upon Muhammad (saws) in Du'a is found in authentic Sunni narrations (You will also see great evidence how it is found in Sunni Islam). 

Salaam,

Which ones?

Also the guest seems to be “Still_A_Shi’a” so they might find Shi’a narrations appealing over sunni.

[Abu_Zahra]

17 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

@Abu_Zahra

You clicked 'disagree'. What are you disagreeing with?

The suggestion that Tawhidi is just pretending to hold certain views. 

[Abu Nur]

8 hours ago, 313_Waiter said:

Salaam,

Which ones?

Wa Aleikum Salaam. In the link I gave the Sunni sheikh also mentions them. One of the narration is following:

It was narrated from ‘Uthman bin Hunaif that a blind man came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said:

“Pray to Allah to heal me.” He said: “If you wish to store your reward for the Hereafter, that is better, or if you wish, I will supplicate for you.” He said: “Supplicate.” So he told him to perform ablution and do it well, and to pray two Rak’ah, and to say this supplication: “Allahumma inni as’aluka wa atawajjahu ilaika bimuhammadin nabiyyir-rahman. Ya Muhammadu inni qad tawajjahtu bika ila rabbi fi hajati hadhihi lituqda. Allahumma fashaffi’hu fiya (O Allah, I ask of You and I turn my face towards You by virtue of the intercession of Muhammad the Prophet of mercy. O Muhammad, I have turned to my Lord by virtue of your intercession concerning this need of mine so that it may be met. O Allah, accept his intercession concerning me)”. 

{Arabic Version adds} Abu Ishaq says This Hadeeth is Saheeh

Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)

English reference : Vol. 1, Book 5, Hadith 1385

Arabic reference : Book 5, Hadith 1448

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Sunnis says that the whole words are part of supplication while Salafis will of course cut it by parts and say one is dua and other is addressing the Prophet (saws). To be honest I don't find any indication of separation by parts rather it seems that the whole thing is supplication itself. Is there somehow arabic wordings and structure that we can somehow show that it should be taken by two different parts and that the supplication stops excactly here "Allah, I ask of You and I turn my face towards You by virtue of the intercession of Muhammad the Prophet of mercy."?

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Also the guest seems to be “Still_A_Shi’a” so they might find Shi’a narrations appealing over sunni.

He said that Salafis may be the safest router when in books that Sunnis consider them to be sahih are found these narrations. It means that there is no clear cut.

As when it comes to Shias and Tawassul, I think it is something that all Imams (عليه السلام) have emphasis many times to supplicate to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) in the way where we only directly praise Him and ask His help, like how we do it in Dua Abu Hamza Al Thumali.

Edited March 27 by Abu Nur

[Guest guest]

On 12/10/2020 at 8:31 AM, El Cid said:

All of this is just a fraud display. When any of their videos appear in my youtube feed, I clear my cookies ASAP. No need to pay attention or listen to them in any way or capacity is my advice for all peoples whether shi'a or Sunni.

Can you please explain how to clear cookies on youtube?