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My younger sister has same-sex attraction

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13 hours ago, Laayla said:

What the family decides is up to them.  I'm providing the fiqhi ruling.

Doesn't make it right/

 

10 hours ago, Khurasani said:

The number of homosexuals is on the increase because so is porn addiction.

No, the number of gay people is going up because the world population isn't going up. Unless you meant the percentage of gay people is going up, but that's not really true either. The percentage of gay people coming out is going up, because, you know, they don't have to worry about getting the death penalty for it (in most places).

 

10 hours ago, Khurasani said:

then he started watching homosexual pornography and then said he "discovered" his sexuality.

People assume they're straight until they realise they're gay. That's common sense.

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Walaikum as salam brother I suppose you could distinguish to her the difference between having a desire and acting on it. Rather than focusing on her attraction, it's important to emphasize that

I don't know why anybody is taking this Randle character seriously, he is undermining the severe sin of same-sex relations and the fact that it can lead to capital punishment under an Islamic system o

Your sister is in her early twenties, you can't make decisions for her or live her life. You can simply advise her, if she refuses to listen to you, it's on her. Welcome to the real world my frie

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25 minutes ago, gayboyanon said:

Doesn't make it right/

 

No, the number of gay people is going up because the world population isn't going up. Unless you meant the percentage of gay people is going up, but that's not really true either. The percentage of gay people coming out is going up, because, you know, they don't have to worry about getting the death penalty for it (in most places).

 

People assume they're straight until they realise they're gay. That's common sense.

why would they assume they are straight if they were born gay? How is that common sense or make sense. If they had attraction to women in the past it just proves that they were able to develop characteristics against their innate nature. Okay so they are first starting to come out now? So they were able to stay celibate in the past why cant they now then? If you are born gay how did the genes get passed onto you? Your gay ancestors could not have reproduced with the same sex. 

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1 minute ago, Khurasani said:

why would they assume they are straight if they were born gay? How is that common sense or make sense. If they had attraction to women in the past it just proves that they were able to develop characteristics against their innate nature. Okay so they are first starting to come out now? So they were able to stay celibate in the past why cant they now then? If you are born gay how did the genes get passed onto you? Your gay ancestors could not have reproduced with the same sex. 

No, your friend just wasn't attracted to anyone before. You do know that kids don't have attractions, right? Like, when they're at that age they assume they're straight? Because they don't fall for anyone because they're kids.

 

And the second half of your comment is just so ridiculous that I'm not going to reply to it because you're clearly only posting it to troll.

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Just now, gayboyanon said:

No, your friend just wasn't attracted to anyone before. You do know that kids don't have attractions, right? Like, when they're at that age they assume they're straight? Because they don't fall for anyone because they're kids.

 

And the second half of your comment is just so ridiculous that I'm not going to reply to it because you're clearly only posting it to troll.

My friend? I haven't mentioned any friend. I just told what some muslim guy said on tv here.

I am serious and not trolling. Your logic contradicts itself. If people are only starting to come out now did they stay celibate in the past? If they did stay celibate how did they pass on their genes and if they didn't then they were able to marry and reproduce with the other sex? 

My point was that it is very possible and is happening that people develop sexual fetishes against their own born nature because of external things like society, pornography or being sexually abused in childhood etc. and that is why more and more become gay or lesbian.

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They didn't stay celibate in the past, they just kept it hidden, the same as they do now. They don't reproduce, they adopt, meaning they take in the children that straight people abandon. And even by your logic, it's not a choice to be gay. I don't believe it's in your genes, I think that it's a mix of nature and nurture, but it's not a choice. Maybe sexual abuse can make you more likely to be gay, I don't know, but that's the minority of people. Also, if you say that specific acts can "turn" people gay, then a lot of the rules in Islam would need to be changed. If you're right, then the separation of guys and girls is more likely to turn people gay than any of the stuff you mentioned.

 

But like I said, it's the minority, otherwise every Muslim would be gay. Since that's not the case, it's a mix of nature as well.

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11 hours ago, 313_Waiter said:

Why should one be define by their thoughts, feelings, emotions? You are greater than that.

It's not defining you by your attraction. It's defining said attraction. Don't be a tool, that's pretty obvious. The only reason people like you reject labels is to try to say that being attracted to the same sex isn't valid. It's messed up.

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I am closing this thread. The OP's question has either been answered or the OP doesn't care anymore, had the questions answered in another way because no comments in quite a while that are relevant to the topic and the thread has devolved from it's original purpose. 

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