Your thoughts about Joe Biden as new President?

[F.M]

will he be worse than trump or even better than trump?  how about the mental health of Biden? will he attack muslim countries? what are your thougts?

[guest 2025]

I expect big strides in terms of straying from God. Oregon just decriminalized small amounts of hard drugs like heroin and cocaine, I expect more states to follow. And who knows what's next, perhaps normalizing minor sex and bestiality, or nudity and public sex, or even more trans children. 

Probably something like this meme will happen

I just wish we can have the government of Imam Mahdi already

 

[hasanhh]

For decades, Creepy Joe Baden has been described as a "limousine liberal."

Today, he was described as a "centrist moderate . . . able to work with the Senate."

 "l am dizzy from the spin-doctoring."

Yey, if Creepy Joe becomes president, as pinko as he is, l'II caII him "Uncle Joe" . . . like Amerikans were encouraged to say of someone else during WW2. Creepy Joe is a "liberal interventionist", much like that other "Uncle Joe". So the question become, who are the next kulaks?

[Hassu93]

He bombed Muslims countries with Obama didn't he. What makes you think he won't now ? 

They'd need to keep there arms manufacturing industry moving and spend money off their massive military budget. So they are obviously going to bomb hospitals, weddings, restaurants and schools in middle east.

[313_Waiter]

Biden will be 1 million times worse and will initiate the IIluminati New WorId Order, basically a slavery of the masses.

Edited November 6, 2020 by 313_Waiter

[Ali_Hussain]

Biden is also obviously much more of a supporter of the globo-homo agenda than Trump, so on top of the wars we have that to look forward to as well. 

[hasanhh]

Here is a summarization of EU opinion:

https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-donald-trump-eu-transatlantic/a-55511263 

[F.M]

19 hours ago, 313_Waiter said:

Biden will be 1 million times worse and will initiate the IIluminati New WorId Order, basically a slavery of the masses.

I heared that soo many times, Trump actually was one of the least bad president that ever ruled. the only thing trump does he is unproffesional and he says eveyrything without shame and publical, the other kept silent and did everything behind the backs and dressing up as innocent people while they bomb the entire middle-east!

trump is just like yazid (everyone knows he is crazy and ill in his brains, yet they still choses to follow him) the others are like muawiya all of them dressing up as inocent people  while in fact they are hypocritical.

and yes I belief its getting worser day by day more satanical stuff are getting ruled.. even in my county "the Netherlands" is getting ruled step by step by anti-islamic people who are also PRO-ISIS, they also try really hard to ban the hijab.. its getting harder to be a muslim these days, especially a shia!!!

[Silas]

Everything depends on whether or not the Republicans hold on to the Senate. There will be two runoff elections in Georgia to determine this. A 50-50 Senate means Kamala Harris will be the deciding vote.

Let's say the Democrats get the seats and full control of congress. A Biden presidency will have the following GOOD results:

1. Expanded healthcare coverage for Americans, and lower insurance premiums. Maybe even a public option.

2. A renewal of the Iran nuclear deal, and *maybe* normalized relations with that country

3. Easier time for Muslims in general --far less neocon / Zionist fear mongering

And these would be the BAD results:

1. Massive tax increases on individuals and businesses. There are portions of Biden's tax plan that will hit the middle-class very hard.

2. Reckless, uncontrolled Federal spending. This will lead to stagflation (inflation + lower GDP growth)

3. Higher unemployment

4. A potential for new COVID-19 lockdowns on a national level that will do profound damage to the US and global economy

5. The end of any kind of border enforcement in the south. 

6. "Hate speech" legislation and limits on the First Amendment

Now if the Republicans hold on to the Senate, the ability for Joe to hike taxes on everyone, impose lots of new regulations, simply open the borders, or put everyone into lockdown is going to be greatly diminished. He is going to have to come up with middle-of-the-road solutions. I think we will still see improvement in the Iran situation.

[hasanhh]

15 hours ago, Silas said:

Everything depends on whether or not the Republicans hold on to the Senate.

Agree.

Also, the news Friday night said Baden has "an ambitious agenda."

The last time l heard this was when Carter got elected. The result was Carter tried to do too many things and got nothing done. 

[Haji 2003]

 

[hasanhh]

^^^^^As l commented elsewhere tonight, "slurry speak".

Is is Tequila or is it Oxycontin? 

[hasanhh]

On NBC Nightly News  they reported that Baden plans to release and "settle" illegal immigrants. Which will be at taxpayer expense, of course.

So how does this "solve" unemployment?

And why do they get free expense-paid passes when the people in Yemen, Somalia and elsewhere do not?

[Ansar Shiat Ali]

I think they are both horrible, but its better to have Biden, Allhamdulillah I don't have to have 4 more years of Trump. 

[F.M]

16 hours ago, Ansur Shiat Ali said:

I think they are both horrible, but its better to have Biden, Allhamdulillah I don't have to have 4 more years of Trump. 

actually trump was the least horrible of all of them.. he never dared to start a war, always when he bombed a place it was always a deserted ground, also he did literally nothing the past 4 years he was only kissing the shoes of israel and making jerusalem the qapital of israel.. also he is unproffesional and is saying always his opinion..

while the others are exreme hypocrites and love to kill lots of people especially middle-east etc.. they all have 2 faces.

To be honest i think the start of the horrible world will just start to begin.. coz TBH i dont trust biden he makes himself to be respectfull towards religions and islam etc.. but i think he will start lots of wars etc..

[ShiaOfMahdi]

I think he should be better than Trump. Trump caused nothing but trouble to America. He resulted in the loss of Qassem Soleimani and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis. He never made America great again and his policies on Covid-19 is pathetic. Trump is one of the worst presidents in history and I am glad he's gone.

[Guest Anticipating]

I am a huge Biden fan and I’m so glad he’s our next president. The guy has been nothing but professional and wants to bring the nation together and heal from the damage trump has caused. People who believe in conspiracies, who compared Trump and Biden to “Yazid and Muawiya” have no idea what they are talking about, saying such off-handed, unwanted, and inflammatory remarks, and aren’t the brightest biscuit in the box. 

[Muhammed Ali]

On 11/6/2020 at 3:08 PM, Silas said:

This will lead to stagflation (inflation + lower GDP growth)

An economic crisis would occur no matter who was in power. The American economy is in a very bad state and people are not aware of it. Trump was reckless with his constant bullying of the Fed and asking for negative interest rates. The economy was supposed to be his strongest point but he was a disaster. He inflated the asset market bubbles with the lowering of rates and the tax cuts. And a lot of that money went into harmful stock buy backs. People were happy because their 401ks went up. He increased the deficit and debt whilst cutting tax when the government needed the money. He isn't economically conservative. That's a myth. He never was and never intended to be.

This is from February before Covid:

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President Obama entered office in early 2009 in the teeth of the Great Recession. Not surprisingly, the deficit exploded from $459 billion in calendar 2008 to over $1.4 trillion in calendar 2009. As the economy recovered the deficits shrank to a low of $442 billion in 2015 and was $585 billion his last year in office.

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/01/trumps-deficits-are-racing-past-obamas/?sh=24112eaf4819

In May: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-poised-to-add-more-debt-than-obama-in-first-term

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Obama in 2010-2013, the first four fiscal years for which he was fully responsible, tacked $4.4 trillion onto the national debt. Trump, between fiscal 2018 and 2021, is projected to add more than $7.6 trillion to the national debt, mainly on the back of projected $3.8 trillion and $2.1 trillion deficits in 2020 and 2021, according to the fiscal watchdog Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. The national debt is currently more than $25 trillion.

The economy is in a very bad state and I almost wish Trump won so that he would have to take the blame for the popping of the bubble:

 

[skylight2]

5 hours ago, ShiaLuma said:

I think he should be better than Trump. Trump caused nothing but trouble to America. He resulted in the loss of Qassem Soleimani and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis. He never made America great again and his policies on Covid-19 is pathetic. Trump is one of the worst presidents in history and I am glad he's gone.

The people you identified who Trump killed were soldiers they were ready to die and become shaheed. If it had not been for covid19 Trump would have won in a massive landslide - because the economy b/4 covid19 was booming away. With respect to covid19 we know that countries with true socialized centralized medicine did and continue to do very well. Those that don't have that kind of medical system or have effectively dismantled their system are doing horribly. US has a rotten medical / health care system - and no matter who was POTUS the covid19 policies would have been terrible. Because in order to have an effective response you have to have a centralized medical system that would be available for every individual within the borders of the US - no matter their income or immigration status. HOWEVER I do not believe Trump lost - the election was stolen in multiple ways not only via ballot theft. It is really difficult to win when the entire establishment - including the CIA, FBI, and major generals are against  you - and all you have are a majority of the people. 

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by skylight2

[The Green Knight]

I think the one big plus of Biden being pres is going to be glorious memes.

"I've got hairy legs"

[Muhammed Ali]

33 minutes ago, skylight2 said:

The people you identified who Trump killed were soldiers they were ready to die and become shaheed. 

 

This is an unacceptable 'excuse'. He killed people who were removing terrorism. Don't lie to yourself like this.

BTW Trump has increased the drone strikes that people like to talk about when comparing him to Obama or Biden. And don't forget all the people he killed and made to suffer through the extreme sanctions. Someone on this forum thinks the sanctions were no more severe than the previous administration, but if the Iranians themselves say they are much more severe then it's wrong to disbelieve them.

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The Trump administration has significantly increased the tempo of drone strikes in a number of countries, and it has relaxed the rules governing the targeting of these strikes. The result has been an increased number of civilian casualties with even less accountability than before and no redress for the innocent people caught in the middle of our endless wars.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/trump-escalates-killer-drone-war-and-no-one-seems-to-care/

 

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Since just 2015, the US war machine has dropped over 133,000 bombs on people living in the desert on the other side of the planet. Of those 133,000 bombs, Trump dropped 72,000 in just the last three years.

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/america-drops-bomb-trump-obama-bush/

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President Donald Trump has revoked a policy set by his predecessor requiring US intelligence officials to publish the number of civilians killed in drone strikes outside of war zones.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47480207

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Courage to Resist’s Jeff Paterson hopes that these shifts, coupled with the new optics, will lead to a backlash. “Trump has taken Obama’s massive and limitless drone war and quadrupled strikes—more than one a day now,” said Paterson. “My hope is that because it’s now The Donald lawlessly murdering people with flying robots, folks will begin to realize how insane this ‘less interventionist’ policy is. 

https://couragetoresist.org/obama-vs-trump-drones-whats-changed/

 

[Muhammed Ali]

Do people forget how Obama was disliked by Israel and Trump is liked by them.

After decades of American support Obama decided to do the following:

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“The most stunning 2016 U.N. attack on Israel was facilitated by President Obama when the U.S. abstained on a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning Israel for settlement construction,” the center said. “It reversed decades-long US policy of vetoing such diplomatic moves against the Jewish State.”

https://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/trump-is-the-best-president-for-israels-security-ever/2020/11/03/

And if you cant remember Trump attacked him for it. 

From a pro Israel website:

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Trump increased U.S. military aid to Israel and offered a mutual defense treaty to strengthen the alliance between the two countries. He denied terrorists funding by signing the Taylor Force Act which stopped aid to the Palestinian Authority as long as it gave stipends to Palestinian terrorists and their families. Trump stopped US funding to UNWRA, and other UN agencies marred by corruption. UNWRA has encouraged Palestinian terror and is also known to have cooperated with Hamas. He closed down the PLO mission in Washington D.C. when the Palestinians said they were going to target Israel in the International Criminal Court.

https://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/trump-israels-true-friend/2020/10/28/

[Muhammed Ali]

Today's news:

 

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President Trump’s administration is readying new sanctions against Iran as the clock runs out before President-elect Joe Biden is inaugurated, Axios reported Sunday. 

Trump officials are working with Israel to institute a series of sanctions on Iran, 10 weeks ahead of Inauguration Day, two Israeli sources briefed on the effort told Axios. 

 

https://thehill.com/policy/international/525055-trump-administration-readies-new-sanctions-against-iran-report

 

 

[Muhammed Ali]

The Saudi's prefer Trump over Biden:

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No one is more anxious about a potential Biden presidency than Mohammed bin Salman.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/11/06/saudi-arabia-biden-presidency-trump/

Trump greatly increased military spending. For a person who is supposed to be against the military industrial complex he is acting in complete opposition to what he claims.

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President Donald Trump’s $740.5 billion military budget, which he submitted to Congress on Monday, is only a hair larger than the current year’s budget, but it is still the largest since World War II (even adjusting for inflation), and it’s even more notable for what it emphasizes: building more nuclear weapons, preparing for exotic flavors of warfare, and expanding America’s global military presence.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-military-budget-defense-740-billion-analysis.html

The Shia on this forum who think Trump is good for Shias should perhaps do a little more thinking.

[Abu_Zahra]

4 hours ago, skylight2 said:

HOWEVER I do not believe Trump lost - the election was stolen in multiple ways not only via ballot theft. It is really difficult to win when the entire establishment - including the CIA, FBI, and major generals are against  you - and all you have are a majority of the people. 

You forget to mention that Israel/AIPAC are firmly behind him. As for the majority of the people being with him, clearly you need to take another look at the election results. 

2 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

The Shia on this forum who think Trump is good for Shias should perhaps do a little more thinking.

No presidential candidate was or is 'good for Shias.' There is no such thing. Shiism has never been about establishment support. 

The best thing for the Shia is to follow our religious guidelines, which most of us unfortunately are very ignorant about, rather than sit around waiting for a politician to do us worldly favors. 

The entire concept or expectation of a 'good for Shia' politician is absurd.

[Northwest]

Trump might have started a war with China, but Biden will start wars (plural) with Russia and Iran.

10 hours ago, Guest Anticipating said:

I am a huge Biden fan and I’m so glad he’s our next president. The guy has been nothing but professional and wants to bring the nation together and heal from the damage trump has caused. People who believe in conspiracies, who compared Trump and Biden to “Yazid and Muawiya” have no idea what they are talking about, saying such off-handed, unwanted, and inflammatory remarks, and aren’t the brightest biscuit in the box. 

Pardon me, but this sounds a lot like Newspeak from the deep state.

[hasanhh]

1 hour ago, Northwest said:

but Biden will start wars

Agreed.

What as noted on DeutscheWeIIe was the fillm clip of Baden talking about pursuing "our ideals" internationally, including human rights, but that Baden hasn't criticized China or said anything about the Uyghurs and all.

[Northwest]

4 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

Baden hasn't criticized China or said anything about the Uyghurs and all.

False:

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The Biden campaign said in a statement Tuesday that the Chinese government's oppression of Uighur Muslims and other ethnic minorities in the northwest region of Xinjiang is "genocide," and that Joe Biden "stands against it in the strongest terms." ... A formal accusation of genocide by the U.S. would infuriate China at a time when tensions are already running high, and could prompt calls on the international stage for the U.S. to take greater steps to intervene.

Source

This puts Biden on or beyond Trump’s level of militarism. So I stand corrected: Biden will war with Russia, Iran, and China all at once.

Edited November 9, 2020 by Northwest

[Haji 2003]

This pretty much sums it up:

[hasanhh]

6 hours ago, Northwest said:

False:

Thanks. l was regurgitating what a news spot said.

[hasanhh]

Gosh. S.C is already "Baden Bunch Bashing".

Trump must really be disliked around here.

 

OBTW: My little sister said she 'knew' which of the 35% of Muslims voted for Trump. Those which own businesses, because of the tax cuts and all. The 35% is posted on S.C by someone, somewhere on S.C.

[The Green Knight]

[Mohamed1993]

I'm relieved Trump is gone. Under Biden, real chance for global cooperation on climate change, a return to the Iran deal and hopefully more diplomacy between the US and Iran, maybe an end to US support for Saudis in Yemen (democrats did pass legislation on this, so hopefully it gets followed through), better immigration policies, an end to the travel ban, global cooperation on ending COVID. 

He won't do much vis a vis Israel except maybe restore humanitarian aid to the Palestinians, and the drone strikes will continue albeit with perhaps the greater accountability you saw under Obama.

Overall, he is no saviour, but God am I happy Trump will be history soon.

[hasanhh]

16 hours ago, Northwest said:

False:

Retired Admiral Stravridis said on BBC America that the people around Baden's national security transition team will encourage a "step back" and reevaluate China, to include "the cyber threat" "into a strategy";  rather than "the hodgepodge" of transactions that Trump has done for four years.

[Northwest]

The Twilight Zone...

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Biden and Trump compete for South Florida swing voters with anti-communist conspiracies and interventionist chest-beating

Emmanuel Rondon marshaled far-right Anglo outlets including Breitbart, the New York Post, and BlazeTV as sources for an op-ed painting Joe (Biden) and his ... son Hunter Biden as likely assets of the Chinese Communist Party and China’s People’s Liberation Army.

Source

Moreover:

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“Bernie Sanders is Jewish but not any kind of Jew,” Farías ranted. He explained that, though Sanders lost family in the Holocaust and studied on a Kibbutz, he was not a practicing Jew, and was married to a Catholic. According to Farías, these factors made him as racially inauthentic as Obama, who was “probably not” an actual African-American because of his mixed race heritage.

...a right-wing libertarian Venezuelan economist ... defended the 1973 coup that brought General Augusto Pinochet to power in Chile ... dismissed the notion of CIA plotting as “socialist propaganda”...

Senator Rubio has been on the front lines of the Trump’s administration efforts to effect regime change in Venezuela. ...

Among the most prominent attendees was Ana Navarro, a Nicaraguan Contra cheerleader and former lobbyist for several corruption-stained, right-wing governments in Central America.

Now a key Biden campaign surrogate, Navarro reminded rally-goers that the former vice president was far from a communist, and that the Democrats also supported crushing economic sanctions against the members of the “Troika of Tyranny” like Nicaragua. ...

a Biden proxy group called Venezolanos con Biden 2020 has published a “Guide to Combat Disinformation” [PDF] that emphasizes the candidate’s (Joe Biden’s – ed.) hostility to leftist Latin American governments, the support he has received from Republican politicians, and his own centrist political views.

The guide asserts that Maduro has financed Trump’s political operation (!), and even counters the claim that “Trump will invade Venezuela,” suggesting that a military invasion would be a desirable outcome that Biden would consider.

To emphasize Trump’s supposed mollycoddling of Maduro, the guide quotes Elliot Abrams – the State Department point man on Venezuelan regime change and former Iran-Contra felon – describing a US military invasion as “magical realism.”

Making a neoconservative fanatic like Abrams appear as the sensible person in the room is a trick that perhaps only the insane cesspool of Miami politics can accomplish. ... the Democrats have proven that they are not afraid to indulge the interventionist hallucinations of the Venezuelan diaspora.

It is quite clear that class trumps all other factors.

Edited November 10, 2020 by Northwest