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[F.M]

Establising a network  

It has been said as long the 313 aren’t collected then the return of imam al Mahdi will also be extended..

trough all the technology we have it’s much more easier to get into a communication with people who live on the other side of the world.. technically we don’t have a reason to not create a network and preparing for his pleasant return.

if we would start to create a network than its not really that important to have seen each other in real live... trough social network we can do its actually easier and much more save..

if we Got connected To each other trough socialmedia like;twitter,Instagram,Facebook,tiktok etc... we could easily work together by creating group chats and working together to spread the messegas of ahlalbait!!

for example I was downloading TikTok with an intention to post about Shia Islam and spreading it and showing that Shia Islam isn’t a kuffar religion etc... I found out that I was not only one with such idea... i saw how lots of people spreaded Shia Islam in no time.. and people constantly asking who the halal Bayt actually are... 

so social network makes it so much easier to spread knowledge and get in contact with people from the other side of the world!!

no one can be left alone coz everyone can safely join it!! Either anonymously or without 

Btw I really want to be clear!! Everyone who doesn’t want to join then ignore the post and if you are interest than please let’s help each other to create a huge social network  from different countries all over the world..let’s not forget that’s its our future and it can get destroyed if we wouldn’t work together because of the satanical world we start to live in with lots of legalizations of disguising things.. please remember our future and the next ones..

you’re thoughts??

[F.M]

@Hadi5.  @313_MAHDI_WARRIOR   @hasanhh. @Allah Seeker
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[islam25]

6 hours ago, F.M said:

Establising a network  
 

It has been said as long the 313 aren’t collected then the return of imam al Mahdi will also be extended..

trough all the technology we have it’s much more easier to get into a communication with people who live on the other side of the world.. technically we don’t have a reason to not create a network and preparing for his pleasant return.

if we would start to create a network than its not really that important to have seen each other in real live... trough social network we can do its actually easier and much more save..

if we Got connected To each other trough socialmedia like;twitter,Instagram,Facebook,tiktok etc... we could easily work together by creating group chats and working together to spread the messegas of ahlalbait!!

 

for example I was downloading TikTok with an intention to post about Shia Islam and spreading it and showing that Shia Islam isn’t a kuffar religion etc... I found out that I was not only one with such idea... i saw how lots of people spreaded Shia Islam in no time.. and people constantly asking who the halal Bayt actually are... 

so social network makes it so much easier to spread knowledge and get in contact with people from the other side of the world!!

no one can be left alone coz everyone can safely join it!! Either anonymously or without 

Btw I really want to be clear!! Everyone who doesn’t want to join then ignore the post and if you are interest than please let’s help each other to create a huge social network  from different countries all over the world..let’s not forget that’s its our future and it can get destroyed if we wouldn’t work together because of the satanical world we start to live in with lots of legalizations of disguising things.. please remember our future and the next ones..

you’re thoughts??

 

This is a nice I dea. How to create the network.Who is our Target population.

Hope you will elobrate. 

What I understood that you want put Shia understanding of islam to the people.

[hasanhh]

6 hours ago, F.M said:

if we Got connected To each other trough socialmedia like;twitter,Instagram,Facebook,tiktok etc... we could easily work together by creating group chats and working together to spread the messegas of ahlalbait!!

Won't work. You'd have gov't surveillance and provocations plus he evilgelicals trying to not only hijack the forums but doing anything they could think of to stop you.

[Berber-Shia]

Using social media like Facebook, Twitter, ... and especially TikTok will not help. In fact they are part of the problem. Not only because of the shady activities the companies behind them do, but also because such social media focus too much on attention, outrage and other "dopamine inducing actions" rather than informing people. Now YouTube I would argue is way better (despite Google), because it's not prone to fast clicks and emotional reaction but rather working constructively to inform (or entertain in most cases) people.   

[Berber-Shia]

Alternatively there are other, better video sharing platforms than YouTube. Like Odysee(Lbry), Bit Chute, PeerTube,...

Edited October 13, 2020 by Berber-Shia

[F.M]

1 hour ago, islam25 said:

This is a nice I dea. How to create the network.Who is our Target population.

Hope you will elobrate. 

What I understood that you want put Shia understanding of islam to the people.

Yes, also peasing the imam of our time and preparing the world for his return.

1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

Won't work. You'd have gov't surveillance and provocations plus he evilgelicals trying to not only hijack the forums but doing anything they could think of to stop you.

Allah is powerfull above all everything is possible with his help.. if he sees his servants being busy to create a network against injustice.. then why would he not be pleased? Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) did not send us that we will get extreme sucesfull in spreading islam.. he wiill judge on that we atleast tried it and took a step.

also if you have any better ideas.. please comment, thats why i created this topic

48 minutes ago, Berber-Shia said:

Alternatively there are other, better video sharing platforms than YouTube. Like Odysee(Lbry), Bit Chute, PeerTube,...

interesting...

[F.M]

1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

Won't work. You'd have gov't surveillance and provocations plus he evilgelicals trying to not only hijack the forums but doing anything they could think of to stop you.

how about.. telegram 

please give ideas to create a network

[Muntazir e Mahdi]

For an open network, I assure you that it is not that easy to rely on platforms like Facebook, Twitter, etc because of how they lean politically, religiously, morally, ethically, etc... Technically the current Shiachat network is excellent since it has sub-forums for interfaith dialogue as well and is open to all, but there is a catch which may be applicable to any network you might make or use, which is banning. Shiachat itself is "sort of" banned where I live, with the main website being inaccessible often due to censorship (my country clearly fears us Shi'as, even though we gave the most in making it :hahaha:). The same could happen with your network unfortunately...

But let's say we find a way to bypass that somehow, perhaps by promoting using proxies and VPNs somehow to the userbase, how exactly are we to go about this? Telegram could work but that is strictly messaging, not a platform like Shiachat is. You could make a Reddit forum, but there's already one on https://www.reddit.com/r/shia which is also at risk of censorship technically, but personally in my country it has not been blocked. But this Reddit forum is essentially your best bet apart from Shiachat itself.

Also, I am very sure us lowly individuals cannot reliably be said to be part of the 313, surely those will be people who excel in their faiths, in thinking, in action, and everything, and I think it isn't a bad idea to say a lot of them are likely connected somehow due to their excellence, but surely trying for the sake of trying and hope is not a bad idea at all.

JazakAllah

[hasanhh]

4 hours ago, Berber-Shia said:

Alternatively there are other, better video sharing platforms than YouTube. Like Odysee(Lbry), Bit Chute, PeerTube,...

l can just see and hear this one: "Asslamallikum.  Ana isme Hoda bint ldiot. Welcome to lslamic Gov't Theory. Today, we are going to discuss guardian boards."

So, you'd have about 300 log-ins. Plus, FSD,FBl,NSA,GCHQ,Fatherland Security, ... recording and analyzing every word.

[hasanhh]

3 hours ago, F.M said:

how about.. telegram 

please give ideas to create a network

Same as since 1999: Use 19th Century tradecraft.

[Hadi5]

18 hours ago, F.M said:

Establising a network  
 

It has been said as long the 313 aren’t collected then the return of imam al Mahdi will also be extended..

trough all the technology we have it’s much more easier to get into a communication with people who live on the other side of the world.. technically we don’t have a reason to not create a network and preparing for his pleasant return.

if we would start to create a network than its not really that important to have seen each other in real live... trough social network we can do its actually easier and much more save..

if we Got connected To each other trough socialmedia like;twitter,Instagram,Facebook,tiktok etc... we could easily work together by creating group chats and working together to spread the messegas of ahlalbait!!

 

for example I was downloading TikTok with an intention to post about Shia Islam and spreading it and showing that Shia Islam isn’t a kuffar religion etc... I found out that I was not only one with such idea... i saw how lots of people spreaded Shia Islam in no time.. and people constantly asking who the halal Bayt actually are... 

so social network makes it so much easier to spread knowledge and get in contact with people from the other side of the world!!

no one can be left alone coz everyone can safely join it!! Either anonymously or without 

Btw I really want to be clear!! Everyone who doesn’t want to join then ignore the post and if you are interest than please let’s help each other to create a huge social network  from different countries all over the world..let’s not forget that’s its our future and it can get destroyed if we wouldn’t work together because of the satanical world we start to live in with lots of legalizations of disguising things.. please remember our future and the next ones..

you’re thoughts??

 

Salam.

I think it's a good initiative and hope if we try it that will good thing that make the ground for reappearance of Imam Mehdi.

I feel we should add spiritual diamension of Shia Islam it will be suitable and acceptable to western communities.

And it needs scholars who are strong in the Shia Islam and ethics.

One more we should leave behind the differences with Sunnis and work together as much as possible.

[Hadi5]

11 hours ago, hasanhh said:

Won't work. You'd have gov't surveillance and provocations plus he evilgelicals trying to not only hijack the forums but doing anything they could think of to stop you.

You mean they are smart enough to Stop us.

Brother believe one it's only Allah who is owner.So don't be afraid except Allah.

You are discouraging us before we have started.

Yes we should think over obstacles and try to overcome it intelligently, creating source of our own trouble as much as possible.

[Berber-Shia]

37 minutes ago, Hadi5 said:

You are discouraging us before we have started.

I would't say that he's discouraging. More like giving us a reality check.

[hasanhh]

11 hours ago, F.M said:

please give ideas to create a network

Unvoiced reaction . . . Yarrabi

Well obviously, we can't do it telepathically.

Currier and brevity codes for one.

Our food codes can only go so far, lacking specificity for technical intell.

Getting some ideas now?

[Berber-Shia]

  

12 hours ago, F.M said:

how about.. telegram 

Telegram is as sham. Yes the messages are encrypted but we don't hold the private keys. That means our messages are secure through the network, but in the database it doesn't mean jack that they're encrypted since Telegram holds the private keys. And those who own the private keys own the information and can access whatever, whenever they want.

 

OK I will enter more in detail on this tech stuff. The goal here is to establish a secure, 100% privacy (information) network. But first, if you think that your operation or mission will not be an immediate threat towards the big tech and msm and that it doesn't matter if your identity is compromised by alphabet agencies(CIA,FBI,NSA,ABC,...), then using the regular social media might be alright. (You are most probably just going to have to deal with censorship and banning.) If not, you'll have to reconsider your whole tech environment (or maybe like @hasanhh said, use some old tradecraft lol).

Every step of the whole technological process is compromised by either the tech companies or by the alphabet agencies. Your basic motherboard bootloader from Intel contains information gathering code. Your OS whether Windows (Microsoft) or MacOs (Apple) gathers information every minute. Android (Google) and iOs (Apple) as well. The browsers you use gather by the second. Most sites you visit contain JavaScript tracking code. And most account-based web applications like Google, Netflix,... know everything that's to know about you. And some will say "but Berber, it's only metadata they collect and it's identifier-anonymous too", yeah well guess what, if only two attributes of an "anonymous" user entry match with you, your whole identity has been collected. They probably know more about you than you do yourself.

But thankfully there are ways to counter this. Free software and decentralized media. "Free software is computer software distributed under terms that allow users to run the software for any purpose as well as to study, change, and distribute it and any adapted versions." Examples are the Linux OS, Brave browser, Firefox, OpenOffice, VLC,.... You get to see the code and what it does. And with Linux for example you get more control in what your computer can and will do. Hell, you can even replace the intel bootloader. Secondly is decentralized networks and encryption. If you do not trust companies or websites at all to hold your information in a centralized database then using decentralized websites is the best way (Lbry as an example). If you don't mind a centralized database, but you absolutely don't want them to access your information, then be sure that you own the private encryption keys. 

Right now I'm in the process of slowly moving away from the big tech environment. I've started with the most important, which is the cancer of narcissism that is Twitter, Facebook and Instagram (Snapchat and TikTok as well, but never been on there). Secondly is to slowly De-google(De-apple) my phone, which is basically returning back to Nokai dumbphones. And also De-microsoft (de-apple) my computer and installing a Linux distro that is fairly usable. Thirdly blocking all of those mentioned websites and advertising website, through your local hosts file or an adblocker. The only website I then still use is YouTube, but I have a different google account that I only use for YouTube and nothing else. As for whatsapp (gotta keep up with the fam) I'm still looking how to move away from it but it's difficult to convince your family and friends to do it as well. If I manage I'll probably end up using Signal messenger (where I own my private keys).

Edited October 14, 2020 by Berber-Shia

[Hadi5]

59 minutes ago, Berber-Shia said:

I would't say that he's discouraging. More like giving us a reality check.

Ok.

What is your suggestion . Should we drop the Idea spread the message of Shia Islam, because evegelical may hijack it.

[Berber-Shia]

31 minutes ago, Hadi5 said:

What is your suggestion . Should we drop the Idea spread the message of Shia Islam, because evegelical may hijack it

Damn dude. Such a fast assumption. It's not because we said that, that we should dropping it altogether lol. It was just an observation on how things are man.

[Ashvazdanghe]

2 hours ago, Berber-Shia said:

avaScript tracking code. And most account-based web applications like Google, Netflix,...

 

[hasanhh]

4 hours ago, Berber-Shia said:

The goal here is to establish a secure, 100% privacy (information) network. But first, if you think that your operation or mission will not be an immediate threat towards the big tech and msm and that it doesn't matter if your identity is compromised by alphabet agencies(CIA,FBI,NSA,ABC,...), then using the regular social media might be alright. (You are most probably just going to have to deal with censorship and banning.) If not, you'll have to reconsider your whole tech environment (or maybe like @hasanhh said, use some old tradecraft lol).

Every step of the whole technological process is compromised by either the tech companies or by the alphabet agencies.

Barring arrest, the only "100% privacy" you have is by messenger. Basic Army stuff --or was 50 years ago.

Compromised identity: No . . . it does matter.

"(R)egular social media:  with a single code word, likely. But then you have to have a fixed subject heading. Yet with algorythms written to detect undesirable images, the same techniques can be used to detect anything. Remember the post 9-11 effort to surveil the entire Net for terrorist communications?

"Every step": You are also compromised by your own keyboard.

[F.M]

19 hours ago, Muntazir e Mahdi said:

Also, I am very sure us lowly individuals cannot reliably be said to be part of the 313

ehmm, brother its the best to talk about yourself if you think about such things..dont dismotivate people especially the youth, 

coz you have no idea what kind of people you have infront of yourself.

may allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you 

 

Edited October 14, 2020 by F.M

[islam25]

1 hour ago, F.M said:

ehmm, brother its the best to talk about yourself if you think about such things..dont dismotivate people especially the youth, 

coz you have no idea what kind of people you have infront of yourself.

may allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you 

 

You didn't said how to do it.I mean how we should use the social media to Convey the Shia understanding of Islam.

I mean what things or belief system we that will most effectively attract them to Shia Islam.

If we any weakness that Hinder their conversion.

Do you any religious custom that donoy appeal the inteecllect of people or acts as hindrence for their conversion or accepting our view.

I

[hasanhh]

From a 06March2004 article on Ayatollah Sistani in The lndependent by Paul Vallely, the quote:

"The clergy are the conscience of society. The administrative aspects of society's life must be left to men of politics."