Pickaxe, Self-defense and Islam

[Qasim.Ali]

1. Did any of the imams (عليه السلام) or compaions of Islam ever used a pickaxe as a weapon? 

2. What are your thoughts on pickaxe as a self-defense tool in a self-defense situation? 

Like this:https://miscreated.fandom.com/wiki/Pickaxe

[ShiaofAli12]

Salams,

I'm not sure about this but I remember reading somewhere that someone if he were in a battle should be killed a painless death. So any weapon that would  as an enemy is struck, causes an extremely painful death would not be used. So if a pickaxe would cause this then yeah it wouldn't be used. But I think Imams used swords.

[guest 2025]

Depends. A bronze or iron pickaxe would probably be fine, but anything above mithril would cause too much damage

 

Haha just kidding. But seriously, a pickaxe seems too deadly. If you get a good hit in I imagine they'd have very little chance of surviving. And it takes a moment to swing so you'd be wide open for a second and if you miss....

I found a video on this 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vs5mt8YtuU

Edited September 28, 2020 by guest 2025

[Qasim.Ali]

2 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

Depends. A bronze or iron pickaxe would probably be fine, but anything above mithril would cause too much damage

 

Haha just kidding. But seriously, a pickaxe seems too deadly. If you get a good hit in I imagine they'd have very little chance of surviving. And it takes a moment to swing so you'd be wide open for a second and if you miss....

I found a video on this 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vs5mt8YtuU

Thank you for the video. I have seen that one before. To each its own opinion. I still believe "pickaxe" is a lethal weapon. Like you added. 

[El Cid]

I don't know the answers to your questions but In my experience I can say it's an excellent thing to have in Minecraft.

[Qasim.Ali]

8 hours ago, El Cid said:

I don't know the answers to your questions but In my experience I can say it's an excellent thing to have in Minecraft.

what do you mean by "minecraft?"

[El Cid]

6 minutes ago, Qasim.Ali said:

what do you mean by "minecraft?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft

[Qasim.Ali]

24 minutes ago, El Cid said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft

I got you, but this topic is not about "minecraft" This topic is about whether pickaxe as a tool is good for self-defense or not

[Allah Seeker]

1 hour ago, Qasim.Ali said:

I got you, but this topic is not about "minecraft" This topic is about whether pickaxe as a tool is good for self-defense or not

It's definitely a great tool for training, but it probably isn't the best tool in a medieval style battle field (in comparison to the sword) - in my opinion,

1. it has a relatively short range for its weight 
2. not that easy to carry, and can't be sheathed 
3. you are mostly limited to circular motion, and can't really pierce forward, except to push, but not to open someone up

I haven't tried it in sparring, so am definitely no expert, but if you try it carefully with a friend, let us know. Just be VERY VERY careful and ideally use a pickaxe that has blunt and harmless ends, unless you are attacking an object like a piece of wood or something.

[Qasim.Ali]

19 minutes ago, Allah Seeker said:

It's definitely a great tool for training, but it probably isn't the best tool in a medieval style battle field (in comparison to the sword) - in my opinion,

1. it has a relatively short range for its weight 
2. not that easy to carry, and can't be sheathed 
3. you are mostly limited to circular motion, and can't really pierce forward, except to push, but not to open someone up

I haven't tried it in sparring, so am definitely no expert, but if you try it carefully with a friend, let us know. Just be VERY VERY careful and ideally use a pickaxe that has blunt and harmless ends, unless you are attacking an object like a piece of wood or something.

Thanks bro, do you know any large duffle bag or gym bag. Which is in length 100 centimeter and in width 50 centimeter in a bag i can put, pickaxe? So i can walk around it for doing farming.

[El Cid]

2 hours ago, Qasim.Ali said:

I got you, but this topic is not about "minecraft" This topic is about whether pickaxe as a tool is good for self-defense or not

 

Salam brother. I tend to be a little humorous in topics when it comes to Off topic/General forum. My apologies if you were offended.

[Ali_Hussain]

In what scenario would you be carrying a pickaxe and use it to defend yourself?

[Qasim.Ali]

10 minutes ago, Ali_Hussain said:

In what scenario would you be carrying a pickaxe and use it to defend yourself?

Good question. 

From street fights to transportations. 

[Allah Seeker]

2 hours ago, Qasim.Ali said:

Thanks bro, do you know any large duffle bag or gym bag. Which is in length 100 centimeter and in width 50 centimeter in a bag i can put, pickaxe? So i can walk around it for doing farming.

not really bro. you can have it custom made, or simply strap it to a backpack perhaps, or strap it to your back. Usually people leave those tools close to the quarry sites, and maybe carry them on their shoulders for short distances. The good thing about swords and daggers is that you can hang them on a belt. Spears of course are held like staffs.

If you walk around with a pickaxe in a more urban setting, I would wrap the metal part with cloth (and possibly the whole thing, and a string to secure the cloth), so that people wouldn't get scared or nervous around me 

[Qasim.Ali]

Just now, Allah Seeker said:

not really bro. you can have it custom made, or simply strap it to a backpack perhaps, or strap it to your back. Usually people leave those tools close to the quarry sites, and maybe carry them on their shoulders for short distances. The good thing about swords and daggers is that you can hang them on a belt. Spears of course are held like staffs.

If you walk around with a pickaxe in a more urban setting, I would wrap the metal part with cloth (and possibly the whole thing, and a string to secure the cloth), so that people wouldn't get scared or nervous around me 

Thank your for your advice bro.