Armenia - Azerbaijan War (2020 - )

[Ashvazdanghe]

How Armenia’s Historical Connections with Islam can Shape its Diplomacy Today

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Blue Mosque isn’t in Turkey. In fact, it isn’t even in a Muslim country. Unlike its more famous namesake in Istanbul, the Blue Mosque in Yerevan receives little attention. Despite this, the building stands as a testament to Armenia’s complex relationship with the Muslim world. Built in the 18th century by the Iranian Huseyin Ali Khan, it reminds us of the profound cultural connections between Armenia and the Muslim world.

Badr al-Jamali, a prominent Statesman and Vizier (the equivalent of a Prime Minister) in the powerful Shi’ite Fatamid Caliphate (who ruled much of modern-day Egypt and North Africa). 

Mount Ararat (currently in Turkey), seeing it as a symbolic monument for the Armenian people. While Armenia hasn’t officially laid claim to mountain, believed by some to be the site of the biblical Noah’s ark, its romantic view of Ararat as a homeland for the Armenian people does little to improve its relationship with Ankara. In addition, aside from Syria, very few Muslim countries have recognised the Armenian genocide, which remains a significant bone of contention between Armenia and the Muslim world. 

https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2020/06/12/armenia-and-islam-how-armenias-historical-connections-with-islam-can-shape-its-diplomacy-today/

[Northwest]

On 11/5/2020 at 8:04 AM, nemesis said:

I would like to see and I also predict that the Azeri regime will fall soon as word going around is that the shia army in Azerbajian are already revolting as they are furious with taking orders from Turkey and the Syrian mercenaries . And that Aliyevs wife is telling Aliyev to allow the Turks to controll the Army !

Regarding the bolded: people have said the same thing about the Saudi regime for nearly a decade, yet it remains standing despite massive expenditure on the war against Yemen. The Nazi regime in Ukraine remains in power, bankruptcy notwithstanding. Many Western puppets remain in power regardless of the obstacles they face at home and abroad. The sad truth is that the globalist system won’t collapse under its own weight. It will only be overthrown by force. So far even the “Resistance” has only been able to impose “speed bumps,” not reverse the onslaught of the West. Attrition, useful though it is, won’t be sufficient to overcome the Western Leviathan. Babylonian money-magic, thin-air currency, is enough to keep the West afloat. In short order the West managed to destroy ancient civilisations in the Americas and eliminate hundreds of millions of people in Africa and Asia, a process that is obviously ongoing today.

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As a Armenian I would like to see Azerbajian join the Islamic Republic as a Armenian I believe a long lasting peace in the region will only happen of this takes place as it will drive the enemy away Armenians of Artsakh and Azeris will find a way to live in peace and the security of the region will be fortified. 

The outcome in bold isn’t going to happen, as Iran, like the so-called “international community,” officially supports Azerbaijani control of Artsakh. I strongly disagree with Iran‘s official position on this particular issue. If some Azeri fascists want to complain about Iran supporting Armenians, the IRI should be more than happy to deport its Azeri malcontents back into Azerbaijan proper, rather than side with the oppressors in public for the sake of Turkish-Iranian-Azerbaijani “relations.” Personally, I also disagree with your contention that this conflict has nothing to do with religion. That is what the West and its agents want you to believe: that the terrorists fighting against Armenian Christians are doing so only for money, as paid “mercenaries.” In reality the terrorists are fighting for Wahhabi–Salafi/pan-Sunni supremacism, mixed in with pan-Turkic ethnic nationalism (fascism/racism), undoubtedly, but fundamentally motivated by religious ideology, tied in with biology.

This is absolutely a religious conflict: Western (Latinate) vs. Orthodox Christianity, Sunni vs. Shiite, Zionist/Nazi vs. Jewish/socialist. The Vatican-ruled West is absolutely determined to annihilate the original Abrahamic faith, the indigenous Jewish, Christian, and Muslim communities, along with all other authentic civilisation(s) and cultures. You surely know history well.

Edited November 11, 2020 by Northwest

[Ashvazdanghe]

The peace agreement between Azerbaijan and Armenia; Who is the winner of this conflict?

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The Azerbaijan-Armenia peace agreement has nine main clauses and is summarized as follows:
1- Complete cessation of clashes and stop in the current positions
2- Delivery of Agdam region to Azerbaijan
3 and 4 – Deployment of Russian forces in Nagorno-Karabakh
5- Establishing a center to monitor the implementation of the agreement
6- Delivery of Kalbajar and Lachin regions to Azerbaijan
7- Return of refugees to Karabakh
8- Exchange of prisoners and corpses
9- Establishing a transit corridor between western areas of Azerbaijan and Nakhchivan region

At first glance, this agreement may seem like a complete victory for Azerbaijan and a defeat for Armenia, or at least Azerbaijan has achieved what it wanted from Nagorno-Karabakh. However, with a further examination of this agreement and the deployment of Russian forces in the Nagorno-Karabakh region, many questions and ambiguities arise about the fate of this region, which we will examine on a map to better understand this agreement.

Author: ISWNews

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In general,

the presence of Turkish forces in Nagorno-Karabakh or direct land links between Turkey and the Republic of Azerbaijan is a strategic threat to Russia, a threat that reduces Russia’s influence and hegemony in the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea and then in Central Asia. 

this agreement, beyond what the parties claim is neither an absolute victory nor an absolute defeat Rather, so far each side has achieved a certain amount of its own goals; The difference is that Azerbaijan has achieved somewhat slightly more than Armenia.
The Republic of Azerbaijan acquired the territories around the “Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast” (plus parts of the south of the “Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast”) after 28 years. On the other hand, Armenia gained autonomy (at least nominally) and a presence in the “Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast”.
The Republic of Azerbaijan achieved a direct land route with the Nakhchivan region, and on the opposite side of Armenia achieved a direct land route to the center of the “Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast”, the city of Stepanakert.

https://english.iswnews.com/16231/the-peace-agreement-between-azerbaijan-and-armenia-who-is-the-winner-of-this-conflict/

[nemesis]

Salam Alikum dear brothers and sisters. 

Please give me some time and I will provide some thoughts . I am currently analysing the various discussions taking place in Armenia and the rest of the world of the current situation. 

With blessings to you all . Please keep faith in God and only him he is great and he knows all .

From your Armenian friend. 

N

[Ashvazdanghe]

Adhan resounds in historical mosque of Shusha after 28 years (+Video)

https://en.abna24.com/news//adhan-resounds-in-historical-mosque-of-shusha-after-28-years-video_1085905.html

November 14, 2020 - 8:27 AM News Code : 1085905 Source : IQNA, ABNALink:   

For the first time after 28 years, Adhan (call to prayers) was recited in Yukhari Govhar Agha Mosque in the city of Shusha, the Republic of Azerbaijan’s Karabakh region.

In a footage released in social media, an Azeri soldier is seen reciting Adhan at the minaret of the mosque.

[Ashvazdanghe]

293 Syrian mercenaries were killed in Karabakh

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According to available information, Turkey has transferred about 2,500 Syrian mercenaries to Azerbaijan, of which 342 returned to Syria after withdrawing from the war and forgoing everything, including their financial incentives.

https://english.iswnews.com/16301/293-syrian-mercenaries-were-killed-in-karabakh/

Latest Updates on Karabakh, 15 November 2020 (Map Update)

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General Rustam Muradov, commander of the Russian peacekeeping force in Nagorno-Karabakh, denied rumors that he is of Azerbaijani origin.
He stated in an interview that he is from Dagestan and ethnically Tabasaran and he has no relationship with Azerbaijan. He emphasized that he is a Russian officer and will carry out his mission as planned.
It is worth mentioning that he Tabasarans are an ethnic group who live mostly in Dagestan, Russia and they speak the Tabasaran language and are mainly Sunni Muslims.
 

https://english.iswnews.com/16316/latest-updates-on-karabakh-15-november-2020-map-update/

[F.M]

On 11/10/2020 at 2:14 AM, Ansur Shiat Ali said:

Alhamdulillah, This year won't get any worse. (I am thinking every time I say this, the year gets worse.)

actually.... one of the biggest signs of the reaperence of our imam is that azerbejan should burn on every side ( war)..

i am not praying for that to happen, or even want to happen..... but i try to say if the war would have started than we could expect our beloved imam and Jesus to arrive

[Ashvazdanghe]

Iran's Velayati: Presence of takfiri terrorists among Azeri people meaningless

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AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): A senior advisor to Supreme Leader of Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei said that the presence of takfiri terrorists among Azeri people is meaningless.

Iran has common border with Azerbaijan, Armenia and with part of Azerbaijan in Nakhchivan and no country in the region has such characteristic, Ali Akbar Velayati said.

If a war happens in the region it will cause martyrdom for Azeri and Armenian brothers, he said adding that Iran will try to establish fair peace.

"Supreme Leader of Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei had stressed that the occupied part of Azerbaijan should be given back to that country," he said congratulating this great victory to Azerbaijan.
 

We believe that Iran's national security will not be possible without security and calmness in neighboring states.

https://en.abna24.com/news//irans-velayati-presence-of-takfiri-terrorists-among-azeri-people-meaningless_1086864.html

[Ashvazdanghe]

'Hiroshima of Caucasus': Armenians turned Aghdam into ruined city

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AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): Residents of Aghdam, which was occupied by Armenia for 27 years, said Saturday it was turned into a ruined city.

In Aghdam, where the Armenian army withdrew on Nov. 20, there are almost no steady buildings.

About 143,000 Azerbaijanis once live in the city but it now consists of poorly maintained roads and demolished buildings.

The double-minarets mosque, which was built in the 19th century, is the only building in Aghdam whose main structure remains intact. But it is in a very poor and neglected condition.

The destruction by Armenians in Aghdam during the occupation was described in the foreign press as the "Hiroshima of the Caucasus."

https://en.abna24.com/news//hiroshima-of-caucasus-armenians-turned-aghdam-into-ruined-city_1088227.html

[Haji 2003]

Thoughtful article in the Guardian about how Azeri use of drones was decisive. Implications for future conflicts based on the lowered cost of warfare.

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Manufactured by Baykar Makina, the TB2 drones cost as little as $1m to $2m each according to analyst estimates, far less than the near $20m per drone paid by the British military for a fleet of 16 high-end, next-generation Protector drones manufactured by US specialist General Atomics.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/29/uk-defence-secretary-hails-azerbaijans-use-of-drones-in-conflict

[Diaz]

On 11/16/2020 at 11:38 PM, F.M said:

actually.... one of the biggest signs of the reaperence of our imam is that azerbejan should burn on every side ( war)..

i am not praying for that to happen, or even want to happen..... but i try to say if the war would have started than we could expect our beloved imam and Jesus to arrive

Wait, are you series? Why Azerbaijan tho?

[Northwest]

 

[The Green Knight]

On 11/17/2020 at 1:38 AM, F.M said:

one of the biggest signs of the reaperence of our imam is that azerbejan should burn on every side ( war)..

Source please?

On 12/29/2020 at 7:32 PM, Haji 2003 said:

Thoughtful article in the Guardian about how Azeri use of drones was decisive. Implications for future conflicts based on the lowered cost of warfare.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/29/uk-defence-secretary-hails-azerbaijans-use-of-drones-in-conflict

Very informative. Thanks.

[Ashvazdanghe]

Religious leaders of Azerbaijan, Armenia & Russia meet in Moscow

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SHAFAQNA- IQNA: The religious leaders of the Republic of Azerbaijan, Armenia and Russia discussed issues related to the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and its settlement process. The three religious leaders met in Moscow on Wednesday. Karekin II, Catholicos of All Armenians and Azerbaijan’s supreme spiritual leader Allahshukur Pashazade are in Moscow at the invitation of the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kiril I to discuss ways to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

 

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We are convinced that our religions have a unique peace-making potential, especially in such a delicate and sensitive area as inter-ethnic relations. No matter how difficult the Armenian-Azerbaijani relations are at this stage, we believe that it is faith in God and love that can help heal the wounds inflicted by many years of tragic confrontation. This is a very difficult path, which requires spiritual wisdom and foresight,” Patriarch Kiril I said.

Catholicos Karekin II stressed that there is no alternative to a peaceful settlement of the Karabakh conflict in terms of establishing stability and peace in the region in an effort to guarantee a safe and secure life.

He added, however, that the situation in the region remains worrisome and tense. The Catholicos noted that prisoners of war and civilian detainees are frequently subjected to humiliation and torture and emphasized that the need for their soonest release. Kiril I met with Karekin II and Pashazadeh separately on Tuesday.

https://en.shafaqna.com/234534/religious-leaders-of-azerbaijan-armenia-russia-meet-in-moscow/

Azerbaijan’s top cleric under fire for pro-Iran remarks

The remarks earned the country’s senior Islamic official a rebuke from a senior adviser to Turkey’s president and a smear campaign in Azerbaijani pro-government media.

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Azerbaijan’s top cleric has gotten himself in hot water for effusively praising Iran’s supreme leader and feuding online with a senior adviser to the president of Turkey, Baku’s main ally.

Now, state-controlled media are calling for the resignation of the Sheikh-ul-Islam Allahshukur Pashazadeh, who has been Azerbaijan’s senior Muslim official since 1980.

The controversy began on July 21, when Pashazadeh spoke to journalists and credited Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei with auguring Azerbaijan’s victory in last year’s war with Armenia.

 

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A few days later, a senior adviser to Erdogan, M. Mucahit Kucukyilmaz, took issue with Pashadazeh’s comments. In a July 23 tweet that included a Turkish translation of the Azerbaijani cleric’s remarks, Kucukyilmaz commented: “This means that while Khamenei was sending arms to Armenia, he also sent a fatwa to Azerbaijan […] But Khamenei's fatwa defeated Khamenei's weapons!”

This referred to a widely held belief among many in Azerbaijan that Iran provided arms to Armenia during the war. That claim has been refuted by Iran’s Foreign Ministry and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, who thanked the Iranian government for closing its borders to arms transports to Armenia during the war.

Nevertheless, at the same time Azerbaijani pro-government media started to publish a series of articles criticizing Pashazadeh for his praise of Iran.

https://eurasianet.org/azerbaijans-top-cleric-under-fire-for-pro-iran-remarks

https://www.azerbaycan24.com/en/allahshukur-pashazade-to-visit-iran/

https://theiranproject.com/blog/tag/sheikh-ul-islam-haji-allahshukur-pashazadeh/

Chairman of the Caucasus Muslims Office urges removal of sanctions on Iran

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Sheikhulislam Allahshukur Pashazade said in his letter that the sanctions have made it difficult for Iran to access medical equipment and called for an immediate end to sanctions when the country is fighting the coronavirus, the Mehr news agency reported on Wednesday.

He also attached great importance to a humanitarian cause in the coronavirus pandemic.

Renowned American scholar Noam Chomsky has said it is “sheer sadism” that the United States maintains sanctions on Iran during the coronavirus pandemic.

“The sanctions are illegitimate in the first place, and maintaining them during the pandemic is sheer sadism,” Chomsky told IRNA in an interview published on Saturday.

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/447589/Chairman-of-the-Caucasus-Muslims-Office-urges-removal-of-sanctions

Allahshukur Pashazadeh responds to Imam of Ardabil Mosque Ameli

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Unfortunately, the imam of the Ardabil mosque chose to turn a blind eye to the vandalism acts of the invaders and separatists. We, religious people should talk about the intention of peace, tranquility, as commanded by Allah, recommended by our Prophet, but not about lion, its tail, war.

As religious people we should invite people to the right path, the path of truth, justice, in accordance with the command of God Almighty.

https://apa.az/en/xeber/azerbaijan_religion_news/allahshukur-pashazadeh-responds-to-imam-of-ardabil-mosque-ameli-358383

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

Secret behind success of Azeri youth in liberating Karabakh

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Certainly, victory in Nagorno-Karabakh war is due to the sacrifice of the brave and courageous youth, many of whom attended the battlefield voluntarily. Accordingly, Azeri youth lined up against the aggressor enemy by resorting to the teachings of the Shiite School.

According to the sublime guideline of Leader of the Islamic Revolution and Leader of Shia Muslims in the world, Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, Karabakh is an integral part of land of Islam and every person who is killed in the way of its liberation is called “Martyr”. Blessed are the young people such as Ma'arif Safarov and Sheikh Alamuddin Walishov who followed the right path of Third Infallible Imam of Household of Holy Prophet, Imam Hussein ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) and achieved eternal blessing and were martyred on this way for the sake of God Almighty.

The contemplating point here is that after the martyrdom of Azeri soldiers on the battlefields, people of different regions of the Republic of Azerbaijan held glorious and magnificent ceremonies and buried their martyrs.

 

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In the meantime, the role of some secular governments in the region as well as colonial governments, cannot be ignored in this regard. By designing anti-religious and anti-Islamic plans, they (secular and colonial governments) have been seeking to create divisions and discords among Islamic societies for years to prevent the growth of political Islam and pure Islam.

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/165992/Secret-behind-success-of-Azeri-youth-in-liberating-Karabakh

https://english.iswnews.com/tag/karabakh-map/

[Ashvazdanghe]

Iran formally protests Azerbaijan, Armenia on border incidents

Wednesday, 07 October 2020 15:49 [ Last Update: Wednesday, 07 October 2020 16:29 ]

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"The foreign ministry also informed the Republic of Azerbaijan and Armenia about the loss of security and financial damages to the Iranian citizens," he noted.

Reiterating that the Islamic Republic of Iran will not neglect the security of its citizens in any way, the foreign ministry spokesman added: "We have asked both sides to take all necessary security measures to prevent the recurrence of such unacceptable incidents in the light of friendly relations while respecting the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Islamic Republic of Iran."

https://iranpress.com/content/28299/iran-formally-protests-azerbaijan-armenia-border-incidents

For Armenians, they're not occupied territories – they're the homeland

As Armenian settlement in the sensitive territories grows, it becomes more difficult to imagine peace with Azerbaijan. Some say that's the point.

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“Liberated” or “occupied”

The terminology about the seven districts reflects their contested status. Azerbaijanis call the territories “occupied,” while Armenians prefer “liberated.” Diplomats working on the issue either use “occupied” or, if they are trying to be more sensitive to Armenian concerns, “adjacent.” (Armenians also use the name Karvajar or Karvatchar for the name of the district instead of the Azerbaijani Kelbajar.)

A 2016 report from the Azerbaijani Ministry of Foreign Affairs documented what they called “consistent measures undertaken by Armenia in the occupied territories of Azerbaijan with a view to further consolidating the current status quo of the occupation. Such measures include implantation of settlers from Armenia and abroad.”

https://eurasianet.org/for-armenians-theyre-not-occupied-territories-theyre-the-homeland

[nemesis]

بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ

Hello Brothers and Sisters. Greetings and blessings to all.

It's been a while since i have not posted on this forum, waiting for God to provide me the guidance and path to follow and convey in words from the war last year. It is always stated not to speak your heart after anguish and let your heart settle and God drive our path to righteousness.

I see some brothers and sisters are still posting so i decided to join in the conversation NOT to start discussions for the sake of Sinful thoughts but to discuss and converse regards to both my fatherlands Iran and Armenia, as notably this subject is to do with both!

Since my first day of becoming a member on this forum i have stated my Love for Imam Hussein ( (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) ) and his family ( Pbut ) . and how much we can learn from him and his God given wisdom about oppression and the oppressed, and how this relates not only to Armenian, Azerbaijan and Iran but the entire world. with his majesty and by the creeds of our Lord Jesus Christ ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) we know about free will and how we choose our destiny and our actions both as Christians and Muslims. 

I not only wish to see a peaceful solution to this madness and ask for Azeris suffer no more alongside their neighbours in Iran and Armenia, but to take a step back and not only recite the words of the holy books but come to righteous men who God bestowed his love and outwardly showed men the true path. Imam Hussein a warrior who understood the suffering and oppression of the faithful and believers and stood for those who showed mercy to those in need. and our Christ Lord Jesus not a warrior with a sword but warrior by his mouth and lounge crushing the devil under his feet we ask for his mercy and guidance.

The recent flare up in the region for Christians is not unthinkable as Christ our Lord had told us before his return Man will turn against man and man will turn against GOD so this is no surprise to us, and we know that before his and Mahdi's return these must all occur.

I wish to change the subject a bit and ask all the faithful to ask form a religious Shia perspective (Walking in the shoes of the Imam) What they think of the actions being taken by Iran and why as many have asked why Iran has taken a softer approach to Armenia? And ask has Iran not showed his religious obligations to nurse the oppressed in Azerbaijan and ask God thanks for the return of the Azeri lands? and at the same time seen the oppression of the Armenian people by the Azeris. when Imam Khamenei sent his greeting to the Azeri people after the war Armenians were silent but understood that it was his religious duty to see the suffering of the Azeris no more. His Piousness is not a joke we must all learn from these. and finally, why has Iran taken favour of Armenia? would Imam Hussein not have helped the oppressed even if they were Christians by the hands of the Kufr or would he have sent his greetings and acceptance to the Kufr who butchered his family? Iran is a religious society, and the Devil will do everything to destroy those that belief in GOD Armenian Christian or Muslim. 

 

Greetings to my friends.

YAH HUESSEIN!

 

Edited October 18, 2021 by nemesis

[Ashvazdanghe]

2 hours ago, nemesis said:

why as many have asked why Iran has taken a softer approach to Armenia? And ask has Iran not showed his religious obligations to nurse the oppressed in Azerbaijan and ask God thanks for the return of the Azeri lands? and at the same time seen the oppression of the Armenian people by the Azeris. when Imam Khamenei sent his greeting to the Azeri people after the war Armenians were silent but understood that it was his religious duty to see the suffering of the Azeris no more. His Piousness is not a joke we must all learn from these. and finally, why has Iran taken favour of Armenia?

Hi , Iran neither has taken softer approach to Armenia nor Azerbaijan  which Iran has called Karabakh as land of Islam not Azeri land which has asked God/Allah  thanks for returning  it to Muslim lands which Imam Khamenei has sent greetings to muslim people  but as usual his speech has mis interpreted /mistranslated for causing hatred between  Armenian  & Azeris by Zionist owned media which his religious  duty is protection  of any Muslim  community  likewise Azeri people  , which this false propaganda  of taking favor of Armenia  has been spread  by Wahabists  & Zionists  in order of portraying  Iran as enemy of Muslims  & showing Azeris as enemies  of Armenians  instead of enmity of neo ottomans  with Armenians nevertheless  Iran sees both of Armenia  & so called  Azerbaijan  state as seperated parts from Iran which Iran wants peacekeeping  between two of them which Iran both historically  & religiously  has deep relation with both countries  which Zionists & Wahabists  & pan Turk movement based  neo Ottoman agenda  of Turkey are trying their best to spread hatred  between Iran & Armenia  & Azerbaijan  & portraying  Iran as Boogeyman to both of Armenia  & Azerbaijan .

[Ashvazdanghe]

https://sofrep.com/news/iranian-boogeyman/

[nemesis]

Salom alikom .

The way i see it is that both Iran and Armenia have lived for centuries even under turmoil and respected each others religious and cultural freedoms not that religion needs freedom as it is GOD given .

I dont think the muslim world even in other shia countries really understand these ties between both countries. Look Iran has hundreds of our churches which are restored routinely even doing a better job then Armenians , and in Armenia projects have been carried out and completed on several mosques , and not to mention key historical documents music , dance , poems literature and so on. we have both helped each other in time of hardship.

Iran is a very important part of Armenian history as is Armenia to Iran , my grand grand father fought along side sattar khan a Azari. 

The thing that im sure off is that nationalisim and so called western democracy dosnt fit both countries way of life we are both verey spiritual and religious countries Armenians being the first nation to adopt christianity and Iran for being the light of the muslim world . You cant love a nation and God it is either the one or other , we both Love GOD.

And this is why the world and its puppets hate us both becuase we are close to GOD. So we must be very careful and not fall into any traps , pray as a nation ask for guidance from GOD alone and he will show us the right path.

 

Blessings 

N

Edited October 18, 2021 by nemesis

[Northwest]

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Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan has hinted repeatedly since the 2020 Artsakh War that Artsakh is a part of Azerbaijan. This has been his position for years. As a journalist, long before coming to power, he thought that Artsakh is a burden on Armenia. ...

1) Pashinyan is wrong to recognize Artsakh as a part of the territory of Azerbaijan. Artsakh was not historically a part of Azerbaijan. Whereas Artsakh has been a part of Armenia for thousands of years, Azerbaijan has been in existence for a little over 100 years. Pashinyan could have recognized the territory of Azerbaijan without acknowledging that it includes Artsakh.

2) While Pashinyan is recognizing the territory of Azerbaijan, Pres. Aliyev has never acknowledged Armenia’s territorial integrity. On the contrary, Aliyev repeatedly claims that all of Armenia is part of historic Western Azerbaijan!

3) To cover up his...recognition of Artsakh as a part of Azerbaijan, Pashinyan is misleading the Armenian public by saying that he wants to defend the ‘rights and security’ of Artsakh Armenians within Azerbaijan. In reality, Artsakh Armenians will not be able to live a single day under Azerbaijani rule. An example of how Azerbaijan treats Artsakh Armenians is the six-month blockade of the Lachin Corridor, depriving the local Armenian population of food and medicines. Once they fall under Azeri rule, their mistreatment will get much worse.

4) Pashinyan keeps dangling a carrot in front of Artsakh Armenians by saying that he is seeking ‘international guarantees’ to safeguard their well-being under Azeri rule. During his press conference, Pashinyan claimed that he is relying “not only on the pressures of the international community, but on constructive negotiations with Azerbaijan, and on Baku-Stepanakert institutional dialogue.” No international guarantees can safeguard the well-being of Artsakhtsis under Azerbaijan’s brutal rule. Aliyev will ignore all external pressures, since he frequently states: “no matter what the international community says, I will do what I want.”

5) Pashinyan is throwing Artsakhtsis to the wolf telling them to make their separate arrangements with Azerbaijan. He is washing his hands from the Artsakhtsis who are citizens of Armenia! Without any backing from Armenia, how can tiny Artsakh battle the Goliath Azerbaijan? If Armenia will not defend the rights of its own citizens in Artsakh, how can Pashinyan expect others to guarantee their security?

6) Pashinyan is not only violating the interests of Armenia and Artsakh, but also the earlier decision of Armenia’s Parliament. Legally, Pashinyan has no right to give away Artsakh to Azerbaijan. He does not own Artsakh. He also does not have the approval of the Parliament or the Constitutional Court.

7) While Pashinyan is recklessly risking the lives of Artsakh Armenians by planning to place them under Azerbaijani rule, he is ironically acknowledging that Azerbaijan is pursuing a policy of “ethnic cleansing and genocide” against the people of Artsakh.

8) Despite all the indications that he is playing with fire, Pashinyan is hell-bent on signing a peace treaty with a brutal enemy who intends to chop Armenians to pieces, not make peace.

9) Pashinyan’s concessions to Azerbaijan encouraged Pres. Aliyev, a week later, to make further demands and threaten both Armenia and Artsakh.

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Unfortunately, the author of the article, who clearly does not pay attention to history or deed, claims that Pashinyan is merely misguided rather than a conscious traitor and foreign agent—a Turkish proxy who was installed by NATO, Soros, and Israel to carry out external operations. But equally to blame are the suicidally-inclined Armenian people who, thanks to their belief in so-called “democracy,” have only registered peaceful opposition and thus allowed Pashinyan to remain in power, instead of encouraging a military coup that would much more effectively install a nationally-minded leadership and exterminate internal and external enemies. Power grows out of right, right makes might. Might means guns, not petitions. Aliyev and other evildoers understand this well, so why are the “‘good’ guys” so politically naïve, unless they themselves don’t really believe in their professed values and have no honour? In so doing they sacrifice their credibility and rightfully earn the scorn of those who would otherwise join their side.

[Northwest]

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On December 12, 2022, as a result of Azerbaijan's illegal blockade of the Lachin (Kashatagh) Corridor, which connects Artsakh with Armenia and the outside world, approximately 120,000 residents of Artsakh found themselves under siege. ...

Since then, humanitarian movement of people and cargo through the Lachin Corridor has been exclusively carried out by the International Committee of the Red Cross and Russian peacekeeping forces, with very limited capacity and certain periodic disruptions, while the movement of vehicles belonging to the residents of Artsakh has been completely prohibited;

Since January 9, 2023, Azerbaijan has disrupted the supply of electricity through the sole high-voltage line between Armenia and Artsakh, which has caused significant energy and humanitarian problems in Artsakh over the past 185 days. There have been daily six-hour power outages, a 48% decrease in electricity consumption, and depletion of local electricity production and supply systems. Starting from December 13, 2023, Azerbaijan periodically, and since March 21, almost continuously, has been interrupting the only gas supply from Armenia to Artsakh (for a total of 148 days), thereby deepening the energy and humanitarian crisis;

Since June 15, Azerbaijan has imposed a complete blockade on the Lachin Corridor, prohibiting the transportation of any individuals or goods (including food, medicine, hygiene items, and fuel) in both directions even by the Red Cross and Russian peacekeepers;

Throughout this entire period, Azerbaijan has been using force and the threat of force against the people of Artsakh, with clear manifestations of ethnic hatred and terrorism, and with the evident goal of ethnic cleansing; ...

• The food shortage is worsening, especially considering that prior to the blockade, around 90% of all consumed food was imported from Armenia;
• Due to the diminishing availability of fuel and other essential resources, approximately 70% of planned agricultural work has been halted, while the impact on other sectors of the economy is even more significant;
• Due to the same reason, internal public transportation has been reduced by approximately 50%, while private transportation has nearly come to a standstill;

The blockade and disruptions in the supply of electricity and gas have rendered over 12,000 people unemployed and deprived of their livelihoods, which represents over 60% of the private sector workforce.

The complete blockade of the Republic of Artsakh and its isolation from the outside world, pursued with the intermediate goal of forcibly subjugating the people of Artsakh, deepens the humanitarian crisis and sets the stage for the transformation of Azerbaijan's ongoing crimes against humanity into the crime of genocide. Through these actions, Azerbaijan deliberately creates unbearable conditions for the people of Artsakh, with the clear intention of depopulating the region and annihilating its people.

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A de facto state of war thus exists between Armenia (=Artsakh, Nagorno-Karabakh) and Azerbaijan. Aliyev, with the tacit and full support of international actors, is intending to complete, stage by stage, step by step, the Armenian Genocide. It is clear that Russia and Iran, whether by neglect or by design, are complicit in this: Russia by putting absolutely no pressure on Azerbaijan’s Turkish patron, Iran by taking no military or economic measures against Turkey and/or Azerbaijan (as opposed to posturing). In 2020 Iran could have prevented Azerbaijan’s offensive by stationing troops on Armenian soil, seizing Nakçıvan, and/or directly blocking the offensive, thereby securing its own borders. Yet Iran, having been, like Russia, infiltrated and spiritually emasculated, did not do so. Now both countries must pay a bitter price for their inactivity.

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Let me once again say the land of Artsakh can be co inhabited by all nations but not by force . Armenians do not have hatred for the Azeri people by GOD this is the truth the regime of Aliyev has sold his nation to the takfiri turk Erdogan gang to use it for its own benefit to create a panturkic dream and to join all turkic nations .

@nemesis ^ You yourself stated that nations are not built by force and that one should not harbour hatred for the enemy. The problem with this sentiment is that it contradicts historical reality and human nature. Life is a struggle for existence among unequal peoples, men whose values, histories, environments, etc. differ wildly. Homeland is always fought for, with weaponry and bloodshed. Force is the driver of life. Realistically, one never forgives or sympathises with a rival whose own struggle for existence necessitates that he wipe you, your family, and your nation out so that he and his may live and dominate. As soon as a people forgets this truth, as all modern, domesticated, “democratised” people have, Armenians not excepted, it is doomed to imminent extinction. The problem with Armenians is that their recent history has revolved around victimhood. They chose to be victims of the Genocide in 1915–8 (which, unlike certain alleged and so-called “genocides,” truly was genocidal in nature and intent) and almost universally did not fight back with arms. That is when the decline of the Armenians really accelerated: spiritually they had already died and become “modern,” democratic, and emasculated.

Please tell me the truth: for all your professed concern for the Azeri, when has the Azeri ever shown the slightest reciprocity? When has he ever shown as much tenderness toward the Armenian as the Armenian has toward him? (I am thinking mainly about Azerbaijani Azeris and excluding some counterexamples from the Iranian leadership.) And to put it bluntly: an Azerbaijani Azeri is a lower-caste Persian who lies about his origins and invents a nationality for himself. Just like the so-called “Ukrainian” who pretends that he is Ukrainian rather than part of the triune Russian family: the “Little Russian,” the “White Russian” (Belarusian) being the other branch of the “Great Russian” parent. A Ukrainian is a Russian who betrays his father, just as an Azerbaijani Azeri, for the most part, is an ill-mannered Persian. And in both cases the rebellious children need, first and foremost, a very good smack on the behind, if not referral to the magistrate for capital punishment. Wow, executing one’s offspring for disobeying their parents, imagine that. (It’s in the Law of Moses, but that’s been “cancelled” by today’s globalist elite.) You know, the opposite of today’s “democratic” so-called “political correctness,” which attempts to eliminate the very concept of facts—and such “feudal,” “obscurantist,” and “medieval” concepts such as personal honour, which belongs solely to aristocrats, not merchants and peasants.

“Turn the other cheek” is suicidal.

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[Northwest]

^ To be fair: the Supreme Leader of Iran, who is quite educated and hence respectable, is, if I recall correctly, of Azeri descent. So not every Azeri fits my negative descriptor(s). But the Azeri majority that identifies with the fictitious Soviet creation “Azerbaijan” certainly does, just like the “Ukrainian” who identifies with the Soviet concoction “Ukraine” rather than the Russian ethnos and its embodiment, the historical Russian Empire.

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[Ashvazdanghe]

35 minutes ago, Northwest said:

In 2020 Iran could have prevented Azerbaijan’s offensive by stationing troops on Armenian soil, seizing Nakçıvan, and/or directly blocking the offensive, thereby securing its own borders. Yet Iran, having been, like Russia, infiltrated and spiritually emasculated, did not do so. Now both countries must pay a bitter price for their inactivity.

Hi it's not a totally black & white or a war board  sterategy game which by rulling dice you can conquer any country so then world without facing consequences which following such tactics means a full war with Nato  which is certainly a designed trap by Zionist Isreal & America against both of Iran & Russia which time to time Azerbaijan tries to incite Iran to a useles war for initiating new Ottoman plan for justification of initiating it by calling Iran as inititor of war so then following it's procedure with support  of Nato & Israel & America also iran has not been inactive as like as it has been propogated by western propganda which all activities of iran has been negleted in hope of initiating a full scale war by Iran against so called state of Azerbaijan .

46 minutes ago, Northwest said:

an Azerbaijani Azeri is a lower-caste Persian who lies about his origins and invents a nationality for himself.

This is a great insult to both of Iranains & Azerbaijanis even Armenians because alway Iranians & any Iranian government has seen both of Azerbaijanis & Armenians as same as Iranians in similar fashion of any Iranian which we have been seperated from each other by forced borders due to wars with Imperial Russia & intervention of British colonialism specially by two shameful tratis of Gulistan & Turkmenchaywhich in both of treaties British colonialism has great rule about creating all burdens for Iran which it's policy  has been followed by Pahlavi dynasty by giving up strategic regions  of Iran at northwest of iran to soviets by order of Britain .

[Haji 2003]

 

 

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The Rabbinical Center of Europe (RCE) sends letter to Armenia’s leadership, demanding the Armenian people “immediately and utterly stop” use of the term genocide when referring to Azerbaijan’s nearly 9-month long blockade of Artsakh. Furthermore, the RCE’s letter blatantly ignores the Armenian Genocide of 1915 by stating “horrifying expressions are only suitable for the intentional, systematic and largest genocide in the history of humanity which was suffered by the Jewish people. The holocaust.” The RCE also refers to the near 9 month blockade as an internal Azerbaijan “conflict,” and accuses the Armenian people of “incessantly using” the term “genocide” for inappropriate political gain. Previously, the rabbis of RCE have spoken against the “demonization” of Azerbaijan and referred to Armenia as an “ally of the ayatollahs in Tehran.” Currently, there is a humanitarian catastrophe unfolding in Artsakh/Nagorno-Karabakh, with rising death tolls from mass starvation, targeted killings, and abductions of peaceful Armenian civilians. The dictatorship of Azerbaijan is deliberately targeting the ethnic Armenian population of Artsakh, with the aim of destroying that group, the definition of genocide.

 

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[Northwest]

I have a question.

Even though Azerbaijan is secularist, its government frequently relies on religious bigotry to mobilise Azerbaijanis against Armenians and Iranians. For example, Azerbaijan disproportionately relies on pro-Turkish Wahhabi–Salafi mercenaries to ethnically cleanse Armenians in Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh), whose opposition to Armenians is primarily religious. Also, Wahhabi–Salafi groups operate freely in Azerbaijan and are playing an important role in driving Azerbaijani policy toward Iran. “Secular” textbooks in Azerbaijani schools and state-controlled mosques frequently target “Christian” and “Shia” beliefs. Aliyev’s government needs religious zealots to effectively fight Armenia and Iran, given that secularists are more fearful of dying in conflict. Religion is much more effective a mobiliser than secular nationalism.

So can we reasonably conclude that religion is playing a major role in driving the conflict? Can we conclude that Aliyev is only pretending to be a secular dictator, but in fact is a religious bigot who prefers Zionist Jews and Sunnis over Christians and Shias for religious rather than purely atheistic, opportunistic reasons? Why have most Christian denominations, aside from the Orthodox, tried for centuries to destroy Armenians? What about Armenians is so special that the global elite has spent centuries trying to wipe them out? Esoteric dimensions? Racial reasons? The fact that the Armenians hold the key to ancient technology via Noah’s Ark? I can imagine that the so-called “deep state” knows that many artefacts lie about the region of Ararat and northwestern Iran. I think some very deep explanations may suffice.

[Northwest]

On 9/20/2023 at 2:15 PM, Northwest said:

I have a question.

Even though Azerbaijan is secularist, its government frequently relies on religious bigotry to mobilise Azerbaijanis against Armenians and Iranians. For example, Azerbaijan disproportionately relies on pro-Turkish Wahhabi–Salafi mercenaries to ethnically cleanse Armenians in Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh), whose opposition to Armenians is primarily religious. Also, Wahhabi–Salafi groups operate freely in Azerbaijan and are playing an important role in driving Azerbaijani policy toward Iran. “Secular” textbooks in Azerbaijani schools and state-controlled mosques frequently target “Christian” and “Shia” beliefs. Aliyev’s government needs religious zealots to effectively fight Armenia and Iran, given that secularists are more fearful of dying in conflict. Religion is much more effective a mobiliser than secular nationalism.

So can we reasonably conclude that religion is playing a major role in driving the conflict? Can we conclude that Aliyev is only pretending to be a secular dictator, but in fact is a religious bigot who prefers Zionist Jews and Sunnis over Christians and Shias for religious rather than purely atheistic, opportunistic reasons? Why have most Christian denominations, aside from the Orthodox, tried for centuries to destroy Armenians? What about Armenians is so special that the global elite has spent centuries trying to wipe them out? Esoteric dimensions? Racial reasons? The fact that the Armenians hold the key to ancient technology via Noah’s Ark? I can imagine that the so-called “deep state” knows that many artefacts lie about the region of Ararat and northwestern Iran. I think some very deep explanations may suffice.

@Ashvazdanghe ^ Any thoughts on this?

[Haji 2003]

On 9/20/2023 at 1:15 PM, Northwest said:

The fact that the Armenians hold the key to ancient technology via Noah’s Ark? I can imagine that the so-called “deep state” knows that many artefacts lie about the region of Ararat and northwestern Iran. I think some very deep explanations may suffice.

Or maybe like the Basques, Rohingya and the Kurds they are in the wrong place at the wrong time?

[Ashvazdanghe]

15 hours ago, Northwest said:

Any thoughts on this

Hi , Alyev & his party have communist background so therefore they don't belive  to religion although for war with Armenia & struggles with Iran they have used a blending radical Wahabbism & Pan Turkism in order to show their war with Armenia as a crusade between Christians & Muslims & their struggle with Iran as fighting with infidels & Pan Iranism also Armenians in front of them just has relied on patriotism which the prime minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan acts as agent of new world order which resembles Abolhassan Bani-Sadr, Former Iranian President which their so called strategy in war is giving land for buying time for more negotiation with aggressive enemy which only leads to weakening defenders & strengthening of invaders which both sides of war are a part of greater puzzle of evil plan of Zionist Israel for Iran which both sides of Alyev & Erdogan their pan turk  party & Nikol Pashinyan & his supporters are puppets of Zionist & great Satan America against Iran .

On 9/20/2023 at 3:45 PM, Northwest said:

The fact that the Armenians hold the key to ancient technology via Noah’s Ark? I can imagine that the so-called “deep state” knows that many artefacts lie about the region of Ararat and northwestern Iran. I think some very deep explanations may suffice.

This is totally wrong which whether Armenia or Azerbaijan or Turkey don't have access to such ancient technology which even if any of these have had access to this ancient technology so then they couldn't activate or use it because it has been based on divine commands which only works for infallible Shia Imams or a very pious person that has received knowledge & permission about it from them.