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What is your opinion on this war? Although It is linked with history but there are some facts I don't like about Azerbaijan

1) Their Government is pro Israel, I am not sure about the people. :worried:

2) Erdogan Involvement! If anyone knows the history of syrian war then they might know what kind of role turkey has played and still playing :)

I hope this war ends and peace may be restored!

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On 9/27/2020 at 12:36 PM, vigilant said:

What is your opinion on this war? Although It is linked with history but there are some facts I don't like about Azerbaijan

1) Their Government is pro Israel, I am not sure about the people. :worried:

2) Erdogan Involvement! If anyone knows the history of syrian war then they might know what kind of role turkey has played and still playing :)

I hope this war ends and peace may be restored!

war is bad, both governments are pro Israel(in fact, Armenia doesnt recognize Palestine), I agree with 2 tho

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Analysis: What does Tel Aviv seek behind intervention in Caucasus crisis?

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Armenia and the Israeli regime established diplomatic relations in 1992 but opening the embassies was delayed for years, until last month that Armenian officially opened its embassy in Tel Aviv. 

Since the moment the embassy was opened, the speculations began to flow that Yerevan and Tel Aviv will move in a path of deepening bilateral ties. However, very soon these speculations proved wrong. 

Precisely, 10 days after the Armenian ambassador started work in Tel Aviv, Yerevan recalled him for consultations over the Israeli arms sales to Azerbaijan amid clashes between the two neighbors. 

The Israeli military assistance to Azerbaijan prompted the fraying of tensions between Armenia and the Israeli regime.

Why are the Israelis seeking intervention in the Caucasus? 

Various reasons drive the Israeli interest in meddling in the recent Caucasus and Karabakh tensions and clashes: 

Concerns about US role vacuum and Turkish lead 

The experts held that the reason behind the importance of the crisis in the Azerbaijan-Armenia relations for the Israeli regime is the US departure from playing a role in a region where Tel Aviv has interests or its developments are influential on it.

Iran’s long borders with Caucasian states 

 in June in an article published by Israel Hayom newspaper wrote that Tel Aviv must closely watch the developments in the Caucasus because some states there, apparently Azerbaijan, can serve as “Israel’s eyes and ears” in Iran. 

Ambitious expansionist goals of Tel Aviv 

 Some Israeli companies have reportedly made vast land purchases in these countries and have constructed private residential districts and resorts, triggering fears about an Israeli scenario of “Palestinization” of Central Asia.

https://en.abna24.com/news//analysis-what-does-tel-aviv-seek-behind-intervention-in-caucasus-crisis_1075772.html

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Iran urges Azerbaijan, Armenia to observe ceasefire

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AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): The Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Saeed Khatibzadeh on Monday called on Azerbaijan and Armenia to stay loyal to truce and resume talks within the framework of international regulations.

He also called on both countries to respect each other's territorial integrity and leave occupied cities.

About two weeks ago, Azerbaijan and Armenia came into a conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh.

Iran has repeatedly asked for settlement of the conflict and urged cessation of hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh.

Khatibzadeh further expressed regret over violation of ceasefire between Baku and Yerevan and condemned rocket attacks on residential units and civilian infrastructures as well as massacre of civilians.

The spokesman further expressed sympathy with the families of the victims.

Khatibzadeh said Iran is ready to facilitate the process of talks between Azerbaijan and Armenia to reach a sustainable peace in the region.

Dispute over Nagorno-Karabakh started in 1988 and led to military conflict in 1992.

Two days ago, Armenian and Azeri foreign ministers through Russia's mediation agreed on a ceasefire but continuation of conflicts suggests the agreement is fragile.

https://en.abna24.com/news//iran-urges-azerbaijan-armenia-to-observe-ceasefire_1077559.html

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235036821-azerbaijani-army-may-strike-khankendi/

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Statement of Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) World Assembly following attack of Armenian forces on Ganja

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AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): Following the rocket attack by Armenian forces on the city of Ganja and the killing and wounding of a number of Azerbaijani Shiites, the Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) World Assembly issued the following statement:

In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful

We are all from Allah and to Him we shall return (Holy Quran)

The news of the Armenian air strike on the city of Ganja, which is decorated with the name of the city of Imamzadeh due to the presence of the holy shrine of Imamzadeh Ibrahim Ibn Baqir (عليه السلام), and the killing and wounding of several civilian Shiites in that city, caused grief and sorrow.

Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) World Assembly in line with its inherent duty to protect the rights of Shiites in the world, condemns this incident, which took place during the ceasefire between the two countries and prays to the Almighty for his exaltation and great patience for his families.

Ahl Al-Bayt (عليه السلام) World Assembly
October 13, 2020

https://en.abna24.com/news//statement-of-ahlulbayt-as-world-assembly-following-attack-of-armenian-forces-on-ganja_1077899.html

Red Cross warns of humanitarian, health crisis in Karabakh

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Martin Schweb, director of the ICRC in the Eurasia region, said in a statement on Tuesday that “hundreds of thousands” of people across the region were affected, with healthcare services coming under strain and even attacked in some cases.

“Today, after two weeks of violent battles that unfortunately are still intensifying (…) we see that there are hundreds of thousands of people affected in the region,” Schweb said.

"Civilians are dying or suffering life-changing injuries," he added. "Homes, businesses and once-busy streets are being reduced to rubble."

Karabakh is internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan, but it is held by ethnic Armenian separatists backed by Armenia since 1992 when they broke from Azerbaijan in a war that killed some 30,000 people.

In 1994, a ceasefire was put in place and France, Russia and the US — known as the “Minsk Group” — were tasked with finding out a lasting resolution to the conflict. But for decades, the group has failed to stop sporadic outbreaks of fighting and implement four UN resolutions which demand that military forces leave the occupied territories and hand them over to Azerbaijan.

The latest fighting over the region began on September 27 and has claimed hundreds of lives, with each side blames the other for instigating the deadliest fighting since 1994.

A ceasefire was reached in the early hours of Saturday between the two sides during talks in Russia.

Despite the ceasefire, which aimed to allow an exchange of detainees and the collection of bodies from the battlefield, the Red Cross said on Tuesday that it had not been able to actually proceed to enforce such an exchange.

Turkey, which strongly backs Azerbaijan in the region and has had historically poor relations with Armenia, is accused of sending Takfiri militants from Syria to operate in Karabakh.

Russia, a close ally to Armenia, has formerly warned that the fighting could turn the disputed region into a launch pad for terrorists, who could threaten the country's security.

https://en.abna24.com/news//red-cross-warns-of-humanitarian-health-crisis-in-karabakh_1078083.html

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Iran embassy in Azerbaijan condemns missile attack on Ganja

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AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): Iran's Embassy in Azerbaijan issued a statement on Saturday condemning the missile attack on the city of Ganja which killed and wounded a number of civilians.

In the statement, the Embassy of the Islamic Republic of Iran strongly condemned last night’s missile attack on Ganja as the second-largest city in Azerbaijan and the killing as well as wounding of a group of civilians.

The Embassy also expressed sympathy for the bereaved families and wished immediate healing for those injured in the incident.

It further emphasized that targeting defenseless cities and innocent people is against internationally recognized norms and laws, stating that such a behaviour is among the war crimes that must be stopped as quickly as possible.

Armenia's forces launched a missile attack on the city of Ganja (Azerbaijan's second-largest city) at early hours of Saturday, killing 12 people and wounding 40 others, Azerbaijan’s Ministry of Unexpected Events said on Saturday.

Ganja is located in 368 km west of Baku, Azerbaijan.

At least 10 civilians were killed and 35 others wounded in a missile attack on Ganja city a few nights ago.
 

https://en.abna24.com/news//iran-embassy-in-azerbaijan-condemns-missile-attack-on-ganja_1078761.html

Statement of Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) World Assembly following attack of Armenian forces on Ganja

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We are all from Allah and to Him we shall return (Holy Quran)

The news of the Armenian air strike on the city of Ganja, which is decorated with the name of the city of Imamzadeh due to the presence of the holy shrine of Imamzadeh Ibrahim Ibn Baqir (عليه السلام), and the killing and wounding of several civilian Shiites in that city, caused grief and sorrow.

Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) World Assembly in line with its inherent duty to protect the rights of Shiites in the world, condemns this incident, which took place during the ceasefire between the two countries and prays to the Almighty for his exaltation and great patience for his families.

Ahl Al-Bayt (عليه السلام) World Assembly
October 13, 2020

https://en.abna24.com/news//statement-of-ahlulbayt-as-world-assembly-following-attack-of-armenian-forces-on-ganja_1077899.html

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1 hour ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Iran embassy in Azerbaijan condemns missile attack

Bro, l remember the "War on the Cities" during the lran-lraq War on the news. That was bad, and is no different.

A young man who use to live near me live a block away from one lraqi missile hit.

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I stand with our Shia' Brothers & Sisters of Azerbaijan.

Because historically those lands are Azeri and the Armenians did genocides on our Azeri brothers & sisters and also on other people in the area.

And we are Shia', so we must to stand with the Truth.

Everyone haves to visit this: Website about Azerbaijani history and the Armenian arrival to those lands of Azerbaijan and genocides done by the Armenians in Azerbaijani lands.

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23 minutes ago, HamidCZ said:

I stand with our Shia' Brothers & Sisters of Azerbaijan.

Because historically those lands are Azeri and the Armenians did genocides on our Azeri brothers & sisters and also on other people in the area.

And we are Shia', so we must to stand with the Truth.

Everyone haves to visit this: Website about Azerbaijani history and the Armenian arrival to those lands of Azerbaijan and genocides done by the Armenians in Azerbaijani lands.

That link doesn't work, but from what I've seen even Azerbaijan isn't denying that the people there are Armenian in that region, nor that the Soviets gave it to them when they drew the borders.

Should we also support Kashmir going to India? It is ancient Indian land after all?

Either way, for the mere fact that israel and Turkey are with Azerbaijan, and people keep posting the flags of those three countries (unfortunately the Pakistani one as well) together, makes it pretty much impossible that Azerbaijan is in the right.

Let's not even get into the rumours that they are allied with terrorist from Syria.

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2 hours ago, Ali_Hussain said:

That link doesn't work, but from what I've seen even Azerbaijan isn't denying that the people there are Armenian in that region, nor that the Soviets gave it to them when they drew the borders.

Should we also support Kashmir going to India? It is ancient Indian land after all?

Either way, for the mere fact that israel and Turkey are with Azerbaijan, and people keep posting the flags of those three countries (unfortunately the Pakistani one as well) together, makes it pretty much impossible that Azerbaijan is in the right.

Let's not even get into the rumours that they are allied with terrorist from Syria.

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According to a well-informed Turkish political source I spoke with in 2014, who had been involved in attempts to broker a peace between Assad and Erdoğan, Erdoğan’s first Presidential election campaign in August 2014 was “greased” by a gift of $ 10 billion from the Saudis. ... The financing for the Turkish ISIS operation was arranged apparently by a close personal friend of Erdoğan named Yasin al-Qadi, a Saudi banker close to the Saudi Royal House, member of the Muslim Brotherhood, financier of Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda since Afghanistan in the 1980’s.

The Saudi monarchy is determined to control the oil fields of Iraq and of Syria using ISIS to do it. They clearly want to control the entire world oil market, first bankrupting the recent challenge from US shale oil producers, then by controlling through Turkey the oil flows of Iraq and Syria.

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Ironically, both Russia and Iran have been consistently siding with and/or appeasing Turkey in Libya and Syria. President Assad has been complaining about Turkish noncompliance with deescalation agreements in Syria and has stated that Turkey is working with the Kurds and ISIS on behalf of Israel and the U.S. Ironically, Iran backs Turkey because both Turkey and Iran, along with Qatar, support the Muslim Brotherhood, and prevailing conventional wisdom is that the MB counters Saudi/Emirati influence. People often forget that Iran diplomatically supported the West’s “Arab Spring” against Mubarak in Egypt and Gaddafi in Libya, which ended up proving disastrous for Iranian regional influence. Wahhabi–Salafi ideology rules Southwest Asia.

The irony is that Turkey, like Qatar, poses as an enemy of Saudi Arabia, yet all three states, along with the UAE, back al-Qaida and ISIS in the MENA. Russia has confirmed Turkey’s deploying thousands of al-Qaida and ISIS militants in Azerbaijan. Since the Saudis are the primary sponsor of these groups, and the Saudi finance controls the MENA on behalf of Israel and NATO, if Turkey and/or its patron Qatar is supporting al-Qaida and ISIS, then Saudi Arabia is supporting Turkey and/or Qatar on behalf of Israel and NATO, public theatre notwithstanding. Iran, like the rest of the world, has effectively bolstered Sunni extremism by choosing pan-Islamic unity instead of Shia unity. It’s a demographically suicidal policy, and supporters of Iran are in denial.

The usual suspects have adroitly exploited this to Iran’s detriment.

(Let’s not forget that the “moderate” MB’s Turkish-fronted “Free Syrian Army” fought alongside and shared members with al-Qaida and ISIS in Syria. Hamas backed Turkey.)

Right now I see a massive Sunni–Zionist–Hindutva bloc uniting the West, Israel, Russia, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Pakistan, and India against Iran. China, like Russia and the EU, has consistently sided with the Western financial order against Iran. This means Iran is totally isolated on all its flanks. Far more Sunnis support sectarianism than anti-imperialism. Internationalism is dead.

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3 hours ago, Ali_Hussain said:

That link doesn't work, but from what I've seen even Azerbaijan isn't denying that the people there are Armenian in that region, nor that the Soviets gave it to them when they drew the borders.

Should we also support Kashmir going to India? It is ancient Indian land after all?

Either way, for the mere fact that israel and Turkey are with Azerbaijan, and people keep posting the flags of those three countries (unfortunately the Pakistani one as well) together, makes it pretty much impossible that Azerbaijan is in the right.

Let's not even get into the rumours that they are allied with terrorist from Syria.

Here is a link i hope that now it will work, or simply write 1905.az/en.

Well, Azerbaijani historians are telling that few Armenians arrived to Azeri lands (Irevan, Karabakh, Southern Azerbaijan) in times when Qara-Qoyunlu was falling and Aq-Qoyunlu was established from what is now northern Syria and central Turkey.

 

Kashmir can't go to India, as population is Kashmiri and Dardic and they are not foreign there.

 

Israel supports Azerbaijan because Russia and Iran supports Armenia, it´s possibly because of Southern Azerbaijan (which is in Iran, after Russo-Persian wars in 18th and 19th Centuries). It´s geo-politics.

 

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Ironically, both Russia and Iran have been consistently siding with and/or appeasing Turkey in Libya and Syria. President Assad has been complaining about Turkish noncompliance with deescalation agreements in Syria and has stated that Turkey is working with the Kurds and ISIS on behalf of Israel and the U.S. Ironically, Iran backs Turkey because both Turkey and Iran, along with Qatar, support the Muslim Brotherhood, and prevailing conventional wisdom is that the MB counters Saudi/Emirati influence. People often forget that Iran diplomatically supported the West’s “Arab Spring” against Mubarak in Egypt and Gaddafi in Libya, which ended up proving disastrous for Iranian regional influence. Wahhabi–Salafi ideology rules Southwest Asia.

The irony is that Turkey, like Qatar, poses as an enemy of Saudi Arabia, yet all three states, along with the UAE, back al-Qaida and ISIS in the MENA. Russia has confirmed Turkey’s deploying thousands of al-Qaida and ISIS militants in Azerbaijan. Since the Saudis are the primary sponsor of these groups, and the Saudi finance controls the MENA on behalf of Israel and NATO, if Turkey and/or its patron Qatar is supporting al-Qaida and ISIS, then Saudi Arabia is supporting Turkey and/or Qatar on behalf of Israel and NATO, public theatre notwithstanding. Iran, like the rest of the world, has effectively bolstered Sunni extremism by choosing pan-Islamic unity instead of Shia unity. It’s a demographically suicidal policy, and supporters of Iran are in denial.

The usual suspects have adroitly exploited this to Iran’s detriment.

(Let’s not forget that the “moderate” MB’s Turkish-fronted “Free Syrian Army” fought alongside and shared members with al-Qaida and ISIS in Syria. Hamas backed Turkey.)

Right now I see a massive Sunni–Zionist–Hindutva bloc uniting the West, Israel, Russia, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Pakistan, and India against Iran. China, like Russia and the EU, has consistently sided with the Western financial order against Iran. This means Iran is totally isolated on all its flanks. Far more Sunnis support sectarianism than anti-imperialism. Internationalism is dead.

Iran has sided with Qatar too after UAE, KSA blockade done on Qatar.

 

The information about deploying ISIS militants by Turkey into Azerbaijan is not confirmed and even Russian media deny it.

 

Btw Armenia got mercenaries from Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran and who knows from where too.

 

And you forgot about Libya, where Russia, Syria, UAE, France and KSA sides with Haftar forces and Turkey, USA, Europe (except France and South Cyprus) sides with Tripoli UN-recognised govt.

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34 minutes ago, HamidCZ said:

Israel supports Azerbaijan because Russia and Iran supports Armenia, it´s possibly because of Southern Azerbaijan (which is in Iran, after Russo-Persian wars in 18th and 19th Centuries). It´s geo-politics.

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According to the political scientist, one of the most terrible things for any people is when they are expelled from their ancestral lands. Speaking about the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, it should be noted that the massacre in Sumgait and the events that followed resulted in a major displacement of Armenians who lived in Azerbaijan. Before the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, hundreds of thousands of Armenians were expelled from their ancestral lands in the period of the Ottoman rule.

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Iran has sided with Qatar too after UAE, KSA blockade done on Qatar.

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US investor confidence in Qatar market ‘remains high’, says USQBC official

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Qatar's government is reportedly asking the Pentagon for permission to purchase a number of F-35 fighter jets.

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Well, my point is that the “blockade” is fake, since the KSA, UAE, and Qatar, like Turkey, are all major bases for the U.S. and Israel.

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The information about deploying ISIS militants by Turkey into Azerbaijan is not confirmed and even Russian media deny it.

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Naryshkin said SVR data shows mercenaries from international terrorist organizations fighting in the Middle East, in particular, Jabhat al-Nusra (a former branch of al-Qaeda in Syria - Ed.), Firqat al-Hamza, Sultan Murad, as well as extremist Kurdish groups are actively pouring into the conflict zone,

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YEREVAN (Panorama)—Chairman of the Democratic Party of Azerbaijan Sardar Jalaloglu has stated that Azerbaijan is the homeland of the so-called Islamic State (IS). ... “Azerbaijan is the historical homeland of the IS. As in the first time, now again, the ideology of the IS was born in Azerbaijan. The ideology of the Khurramites movement, led by Babak, and of Koroghlu’s movement is the same as that of the IS today. The aim of those movements is to restore justice with the help of violence. Today, too, the majority of the IS leaders are Azerbaijanis,” Jalaloglu said.

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Idlib (AsiaNews) - Syrian armed opposition sources contacted by AsiaNews, say that Turkey has sent 4,000 Syrian Isis mercenaries from Afrin to fight against the Armenians of Nagorno Karabakh. A few days ago land convoys reached Turkey and then Azerbaijan by air. The salary is 1,800 US dollars a month, for a duration of three months. ... According to AsiaNews sources, the notorious Syrian terrorist Abu Amsha (a native of the Sunni tribes of Hamah, photo 4), commander of the Suleiman Shah brigade, who became famous in the battles in Libya, also arrived in Azerbaijan. His men are defined as "the worst mercenary killers", also characterized by an extreme hatred towards "infidels" Christians.

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And you forgot about Libya, where Russia, Syria, UAE, France and KSA sides with Haftar forces and Turkey, USA, Europe (except France and South Cyprus) sides with Tripoli UN-recognised govt.

Iran also sides with the UN-backed GNA in Tripoli. So Iran is on the same side as the US and Israel, which also happen to support Haftar’s LNA.

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13 hours ago, Ali_Hussain said:

Let's not even get into the rumours that they are allied with terrorist from Syria.

Salam Azerbaijani government  is allied with terrorist from Syria that transferred by Turkey to Azerbaijani  that even terrorists  released a video of dead bodies of Armenian soldier which they were calling Armenians  as " Pigs " same as they call shias with this title too.

9 hours ago, HamidCZ said:

The information about deploying ISIS militants by Turkey into Azerbaijan is not confirmed and even Russian media deny it.

 

9 hours ago, HamidCZ said:

Israel supports Azerbaijan because Russia and Iran supports Armenia, it´s possibly because of Southern Azerbaijan (which is in Iran, after Russo-Persian wars in 18th and 19th Centuries). It´s geo-politics.

Israel supports both sides same as Turkey for their interests agaianst  Iran & shia muslims but Iran supports peace deal  between two countries  for saving Shia lives from genocide  by both sides as main target of Israel for genocide of Shias in this vicious war that it's victims are Shias .

 

9 hours ago, HamidCZ said:

Btw Armenia got mercenaries from Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran and who knows from where too.

Iraq & Iran have no mercenaries  in this war but there is ISIS mervernaries from Syria or maybe  with Lebanese origin same as ISIS did it in Syria which use ISIS Palestinians for massacring Palestinian  refugees in Syria that SAA & shias saved Palestinian  refugees which   in previous war Iran is allied with Azerbaijani  but near to the end of war , the Azerbaijani  officials betrayed to both Iran & their people that leads to masscare  of Shias in khojaly.

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A Khojaly survivor, Salman Abasov told that:

Several days before the tragedy the Armenian told us several times over the radio that they would capture the town and demanded that we leave it. For a longtime helicopters flew into Khojali and it wasn't clear if anyone thought about our fate, took an interest in us. We received practically no help. Moreover, when it was possible to take our women, children out of the town, we were persuaded not to do so.[49]

Azerbaijani filmmaker Ramiz Fataliev in his interview testified that the Azerbaijani authorities did not evacuate the civilians from Khojaly because they thought that by doing so they would invite the Armenians to occupy Khojaly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khojaly_massacre

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Aliyev: Transporting weapons from Iran to Armenia is a lie! I thank Iran + Video

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Ilham Aliyev on an interview with Turkish TV channel “A Haber” on Friday said: Armenia is procuring drones, Kornet and Konkurs anti armor missiles and SAMs illegally from Armenian businessmen. Russia stated they didn’t sell any weapon to Armenia and if they do it is a war crime.
He added: Not only there is no evidence that Iran has sent any weapon to Armenia, but also Iran and Georgia have closed its aerial and ground border on sending any weapon to Armenia, thus we thank Iran and Georgia once more.

https://english.iswnews.com/15841/aliyev-transporting-weapons-from-iran-to-armenia-is-a-lie-i-thank-iran-video/

New evidence on the presence of Syrian terrorists in the battlefields of Nagorno-Karabakh + Videos

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In one of these clips, the cameraman mentions that he is from the Hamza Division, Farooq Brigade and Abu Zaid group. Although there is a lot of evidence of the presence of Syrian terrorists in Azerbaijan and its documents have been published by various media, so far the Azerbaijani authorities have avoided addressing this issue.
In recent months, Syrian terrorists, including Arabs, Turkmen, and Asian Turks, have been transferred to Azerbaijan by Turkey, and it has been clear since the transfer of terrorists to Azerbaijan that Azerbaijan and Turkey intend to launch a large-scale military operation in the Nagorno-Karabakh region.

“The current battle of Nagorno-Karabakh is more like a sedition than a holy battle!”

https://english.iswnews.com/15705/new-evidence-on-the-presence-of-syrian-terrorists-in-the-battlefields-of-nagorno-karabakh-videos/

War crime in Ganja, at least 15 people killed + Video

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Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev tweeted: “Armenia’s fascist leadership has perpetrated next war crime, fired on the cities of Gandja and Mingechevir using tactical operational missile system. They will be held accountable for this crime. Our revenge happens on the battlefield.”

https://english.iswnews.com/15787/war-crime-in-ganja-at-least-15-people-killed-video/

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52 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Israel supports both sides same as Turkey for their interests agaianst  Iran & shia muslims but Iran supports peace deal  between two countries  for saving Shia lives from genocide  by both sides as main target of Israel for genocide of Shias in this vicious war that it's victims are Shias .

Well, all those Shia-hating Takfiri mercenaries are fighting on the side of “Shia” Azerbaijan against Orthodox Armenia, which shows just how “principled” these Takfiri lowlives are. One wonders how these ISIS mercenaries can justify all the head-twisting they engage in on a daily, even hourly, basis. One wonders how such confused individuals can be so fanatical, since their allegiances change so quickly and their “religious” ideology is internally contradictory. One would think that such a muddled ideology would dampen rather than augment fanaticism. I personally think Western and Zionist intelligence agencies are remotely controlling these berserkers through EMFs, RFIDs (implants/microchips), etc., to not mention drugs, of course. Cf. MK-ULTRA. Many of these mercenaries are simply common criminals and we all know how the usual suspects treat their prisoners at black sites and so forth. I also believe that many of these militants are not even human and are AI-driven cyborgs. They are certainly demon-possessed.

52 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Iraq & Iran have no mercenaries  in this war but there is ISIS mervernaries from Syria or maybe  with Lebanese origin same as ISIS did it in Syria which use ISIS Palestinians for massacring Palestinian  refugees in Syria that SAA & shias saved Palestinian  refugees which   in previous war Iran is allied with Azerbaijani  but near to the end of war , the Azerbaijani  officials betrayed to both Iran & their people that leads to masscare  of Shias in khojaly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khojaly_massacre

Personally, I think Iran shouldn’t be “neutral” in this conflict but support ordinary Armenians (not the Armenian government) against Wahhabi–Salafi aggression. I would prefer Eastern (Oriental) Christians to Wahhabi–Salafi and other militant Sunnis any day of the week. I also have a soft spot for the Armenians, as they are minorities even among Christians, and have been persecuted by the Western Christians (Vatican) and their Zionist–Takfiri allies for millennia. I think Iran should give up on this notion of pan-Islamic “unity” and defend itself and Shia interests by allying with religious and other minorities against big powers. Iran has been inconsistent in this regard: while protecting minorities in Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq, it sided with the West against Mubarak and Gaddafi, preferring the Muslim Brotherhood to secular nationalism, even though Mubarak and Gaddafi were gradually improving relations with Iran prior to their ouster. Once in power the MB immediately sided with the West against Iran. Iran also supported mujahideen in Afghanistan and Bosnia against secularist and Christian governments, even though it is well known that the US, not the USSR/Russia, ignited the proxy wars in Afghanistan (1973–present) and the former Yugoslavia (1991–present). Even Brzezinski, for instance, admits the US started the Afghan conflict in order to draw the USSR into a Vietnam-style situation. The Soviets weren’t the guilty party in Afghanistan, regardless of what Muslim countries and the West say, nor were the Serbs the “bad guys” in Yugoslavia, since the Vatican-run West and Israel have always opposed Orthodox Christianity as well as Shia Islam and secular nationalism, socialism, Marxism-Leninism, etc. There are so many articles out there about how Srebrenica and Kosovo “atrocities” were staged by Takfiri militants and their Western sponsors, the same as we have seen across the MENA, from Libya to Syria.

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6 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

with terrorist from Syria that transferred by Turkey to Azerbaijani 

The word being used in American media is not "terrorists", but "mercenaries".

Historical Point from college:

ln a course l had on Stalin (and Beria, Molotov, . . . ), it was specifically pointed out that Stalin deliberately created Nagorno-Karabahk so that ethnic tensions will always be present. This way, both sides would be dependent on Soviet 'peace keeping' since as a former thug, running protection rackets in Baku, Stalin knew that political repression alone would not be enough to keep Commie Control of the Caucuses.

Remember when you read Commie histories, whether it was in grade school, seminary, street thug, General Secretary of Georgia -or later the Party- , at Yalta, Potsdam and post-War Era, Stalin was always the smartest guy in the room.

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Salam alikum dear shia brothers and sisters. 

It is with a heavy heart i return to this forum after a few years of absence. Those who remember me know who I am and the live I had for imam Hussein ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)).

As a Armenian I would like to once again reiterate that this is not Jihad. Not from the Armenian side anyways. And if anyone one dose think so shame on them as no Caliph has given this order "Erdogan" doesn't count! .

Those who know Armenians we are a proud people which I'm sure most on this forum are too. But we have a ancient bond to this land along side our Iranian brothers. Let us not go back into thousands of years in history that both people share but let's see the not distant passed where Armenians shed blood for our Islamic Republic against the Zionist West and insrael in Iraq we shed so much blood so much sahids in the name of all might God most merciful. 

This war again is not a war against shias but against the oppressor not the Azeri people or the Turks but those regimes 9 in count . TURKEY AZERBAJIAN PAKISTAN AFGHANISTAN BELARUS GEORGIA ENGLAND UKRAINE AND ISRAEL. these nations are waging a war against the people of Artsakh to destabilise the long history between our two peoples of Iran and Armenia. We Armenians will not allow it and not allow these oppressors to take what is rightly ours not that which was given by the criminal Tzar of the soviet union in 1918 . 

Let me once again say the land of Artsakh can be co inhabited by all nations but not by force . Armenians do not have hatred for the Azeri people by GOD this is the truth the regime of Aliyev has sold his nation to the takfiri turk Erdogan gang to use it for its own benefit to create a panturkic dream and to join all turkic nations . This ideology will see the Iranian and Arab world to suffer and Armenia will not allow this to happen . If Erdogan so loves the Azeris why dosnt he sent his troops why have Azeris die for his cause.

Finally 23 days into this war we have seen 770 Armenian martyred and over 8000 Azeris and mercenaries martyred and the Turks have not achieved their objective of the liberating their brothers land . ARMENIANS WILL NOT BE TAKEN BY FORCE this is not just a war about karabakh this is the survival of our entire nation and we Will NOT allow the 1915 Genocide to ever occur again.

 

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Iranian FM urges all to choose peace, security, stability

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AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif in a Twitter message urged all to choose peace, security and stability.

“We can choose to remain prisoners of the past and perpetuate instability and tension," Zarif wrote in his Twitter account on Tuesday referring to his speech addressing UNSC.

"Or, all of us can choose peace, security, stability and prosperity for all. The choice should be obvious to all.” My UNSC speech on Persian Gulf situation," he added.

"We believe that a new regional approach should be the outcome of collective deliberations. Last year, President Rouhani shared our initial thoughts with all the leaders of the littoral states of the Persian Gulf, inviting them to enrich these ideas and participate in their implementation, he noted.

"First, that you can purchase security from others: Be it from Saddam Hussein invading Iran on some of our neighbor’s behalf; or from the U.S. coming to rescue our neighbors from the monster that they had together created; or through unprecedented purchase of military hardware," Zarif said.

"Second, that you can have security at the expense of the insecurity of your neighbors: Be it Iran, Kuwait or Qatar at one time or another," he stated.

"And third, that you can establish regional hegemony: Be it in Yemen, North Africa or the Horn of Africa."
 

https://en.abna24.com/news//iranian-fm-urges-all-to-choose-peace-security-stability_1079777.html

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Video: Adhan in Fuzuli district of Karabakh after 27 years

AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): After the liberation of Fuzuli in Qarabagh, the Adhan (call to prayer) resounded in this city after 27 years.

https://en.abna24.com/news//video-adhan-in-fuzuli-district-of-karabakh-after-27-years

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Video: Adhan in Fuzuli district of Karabakh after 27 years

AhlulBayt News Agency (ABNA): After the liberation of Fuzuli in Qarabagh, the Adhan (call to prayer) resounded in this city after 27 years.

https://en.abna24.com/news//video-adhan-in-fuzuli-district-of-karabakh-after-27-years

The story doesn't have much info, but the implication is obviously that the Armenians occupied and either expelled or oppressed the Muslims there.

But given that the supposedly Shi'a Azerbaijanis recited the adhan of one of the Sunni madhhabs, I'm more inclined to believe that this is just some Turkish orchestrated propaganda, but God knows best. It is right next to Azerbaijan, so the inhabitants could be Azeri - but there still isn't any evidence provided as to the reason that the adhan wasn't heard there is so long.

https://en.abna24.com/news//video-adhan-in-fuzuli-district-of-karabakh-after-27-years_1079832.html

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2 minutes ago, Ali_Hussain said:

The story doesn't have much info, but the implication is obviously that the Armenians occupied and either expelled or oppressed the Muslims there.

But given that the supposedly Shi'a Azerbaijanis recited the adhan of one of the Sunni madhhabs, I'm more inclined to believe that this is just some Turkish orchestrated propaganda, but God knows best. It is right next to Azerbaijan, so the inhabitants could be Azeri - but there still isn't any evidence provided as to the reason that the adhan wasn't heard there is so long.

https://en.abna24.com/news//video-adhan-in-fuzuli-district-of-karabakh-after-27-years_1079832.html

Edit: Thisvideo is from the same area from a year or two ago, why did they not take the opportunity to call out the adhan at some during this parade?

As usual from the Iranian sources, amateur level propaganda that can be taken apart with a 30 second Google search.

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40 minutes ago, Ali_Hussain said:

Edit: Thisvideo is from the same area from a year or two ago, why did they not take the opportunity to call out the adhan at some during this parade?

Salam currently  I don't  have access to youtube but in Abna24 videos ,looks like that they are on Azerbaijan  army vehicles & they are Sunnis not Shias.

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https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/azerbaijan-rules-out-referendum-to-settle-karabakh-dispute/

 Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said on Thursday that a self-determination referendum will not be held in the Nagorno-Karabakh region.

Aliyev said during an interview with the Japanese newspaper Nikkei: “No, of course not. There will be no referendum in Nagorno-Karabakh and we will not agree to that.

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If the region is being illegally occupied by an invading foreign army, why not have a referendum? Surely the people would vote for their freedom.

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In phone call with Erdogan;

Pres. Rouhani: Terrorist groups can be a major threat to region

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Speaking on Thursday evening in a phone call with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Dr Hassan Rouhani referred to the meeting of the High Council for Cooperation between the two countries in Tehran through video conference, and stressed the need to implement the agreements between the two countries as soon as possible, especially commercial and banking ties.

Referring to the negative impact of illegal US sanctions and the outbreak of coronavirus on trade and economic relations between the two countries, Dr Rouhani expressed hope that the level of trade and economic relations between the two countries would deepen by fully observing health protocols and increasing truck traffic and number of flights.

The President called the fight against terrorism in the region an important issue and added, "Terrorist groups can be a great danger for the region".

Dr Rouhani also expressed readiness to work with Turkey to combat coronavirus and share experiences in this regard.

Referring to the cooperation between Iran, Turkey and Russia to help solve the Syrian problem in the framework of the Astana Process, the President expressed hope that the continuation of this cooperation would lead to solving the Syrian problem, ending terrorism in the region and preserving Syria's territorial integrity.

In this telephone call, the President of Turkey mentioned Iran as a good friend and neighbour to Turkey and emphasised on the development of relations and cooperation between the two countries within the framework of the implementation of the agreements of the High Council for Cooperation between the two countries.


President Erdoğan also expressed hope that Iran-Turkey cooperation on the Nagorno-Karabakh crisis would lead to a solution to the crisis through dialogue and the return of peace to the region.

https://en.abna24.com/news//pres-rouhani-terrorist-groups-can-be-a-major-threat-to-region_1080402.html

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In phone call with Erdogan;

Pres. Rouhani: Terrorist groups can be a major threat to region

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Speaking on Thursday evening in a phone call with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Dr Hassan Rouhani referred to the meeting of the High Council for Cooperation between the two countries in Tehran through video conference, and stressed the need to implement the agreements between the two countries as soon as possible, especially commercial and banking ties.

Referring to the negative impact of illegal US sanctions and the outbreak of coronavirus on trade and economic relations between the two countries, Dr Rouhani expressed hope that the level of trade and economic relations between the two countries would deepen by fully observing health protocols and increasing truck traffic and number of flights.

The President called the fight against terrorism in the region an important issue and added, "Terrorist groups can be a great danger for the region".

Dr Rouhani also expressed readiness to work with Turkey to combat coronavirus and share experiences in this regard.

Referring to the cooperation between Iran, Turkey and Russia to help solve the Syrian problem in the framework of the Astana Process, the President expressed hope that the continuation of this cooperation would lead to solving the Syrian problem, ending terrorism in the region and preserving Syria's territorial integrity.

In this telephone call, the President of Turkey mentioned Iran as a good friend and neighbour to Turkey and emphasised on the development of relations and cooperation between the two countries within the framework of the implementation of the agreements of the High Council for Cooperation between the two countries.


President Erdoğan also expressed hope that Iran-Turkey cooperation on the Nagorno-Karabakh crisis would lead to a solution to the crisis through dialogue and the return of peace to the region.

https://en.abna24.com/news//pres-rouhani-terrorist-groups-can-be-a-major-threat-to-region_1080402.html

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Baku, Yerevan warring sides agree on third ceasefire deal in four weeks

IRGC deploys forces to northwest borders close to Nagorno-Karabakh conflict region

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The decision on the new ceasefire, which is set to begin at 8 am (0400 GMT) Monday, was announced in a joint statement by the governments of Washington, Baku and Yerevan, after Armenian Foreign Minister Zohrab Mnatsakanyan and his Azerbaijani counterpart Jeyhun Bayramov met with US Deputy Secretary of State Stephen E. Biegun.

"The United States facilitated intensive negotiations among the Foreign Ministers and the Minsk Group Co-Chairs to move Armenia and Azerbaijan closer to a peaceful resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict," Sunday's joint statement said.

The warring parties agreed to abide by the terms of the humanitarian ceasefire agreed in Moscow on October 10, which were reaffirmed in the statement issued from Paris on October 17, the statement added.
 

https://en.abna24.com/news//baku-yerevan-warring-sides-agree-on-third-ceasefire-deal-in-four-weeks_1080894.html

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IRGC tanks and military equipment have been stationed in cities of Jolfa and Khoda Afarin in the northwestern province of Azarbaijan which have joint borders both with Azerbaijan Republic and Armenia to ensure safety of people and security of borders, according to a Sepahnews report on Thursday.

https://en.abna24.com/news//irgc-deploys-forces-to-northwest-borders-close-to-nagorno-karabakh-conflict-region_1080902.html

 

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War crime in Barda town, Azerbaijan + Video

Wednesday, 28 October 2020 - 18:49

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 Barda town of Azerbaijan was shelled by Armenia’s artillery and the casualties so far reached to 21 killed and 69 injured among the civilians. The dead bodies were collected from the streets and houses before the defenders of the town arrived.Armenia has also attacked Ganja town before during which several civilians died.

Armenia accuses Azerbaijan of rocket attacks to Karabakh maternity ward and residential area of Stepanakert town, Shusha and some other villages. It is said that one civilian killed in Shusha.

Both sides accuse each other of violating the ceasefire and rejecting the claims of attacking the other side, while the engagement continue at the front line.

https://english.iswnews.com/15992/war-crime-in-barda-town-azerbaijan/

Latest Updates on Karabakh Clashes, 27 October 2020 (Map Update)

https://english.iswnews.com/15978/latest-updates-on-karabakh-clashes-27-october-2020-map-update/

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Prominent Syrian militant commander killed in Karabakh

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ISWNews Analysis Group: Hamza Division, a Turkish-backed militant group in Syria, announced the death of Adel al-Shaher, the group’s prominent commander in the Karabakh battles in Azerbaijan.Adel al-Shaher, known as Abu Shaher, was one of the most important commanders of the Hamzah Division, which had a long history of fighting in various parts of Syria against the Syrian government and other groups, including ISIS and the Kurds in northern Syria.The death of this senior armed commander in the Karabakh war shows the active and organized presence of Syrian terrorist groups in Azerbaijan, which were sent to Karabakh under the auspices of Turkey.
His death also shows the severity of the battles in Nagorno-Karabakh and the high casualties in this war.

https://english.iswnews.com/15968/prominent-syrian-militant-commander-killed-in-karabakh/

 

Appointment of a new Minister of Defense for Artsakh

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ISWNews Analysis Group: Arayik Harutyunyan, President of the so-called Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh(Artsakh), announced the appointment of Mikael Arzumanyan as the new Commander of the Army.

According to available information, he was injured during one of the military operations. However, some sources report the death of the Minister of Defense and former commander of the army.

https://english.iswnews.com/15971/appointment-of-a-new-minister-of-defense-for-artsakh/

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1 hour ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

I wonder if he was responding to the fatwa of shaykh Makarem Shirazi:

All Muslims must support the liberation of Nagorno-Karabakh from occupation, Iranian cleric Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi said in a statement, Trend reports citing Iranian media.

According to Makarem Shirazi, the clergymen also insist on the support for the liberation of Karabakh.

The Ayatollah added that after of occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh for years, the war in the region has recently flared up again and the blood of Muslims is being shed.

“Occupier Armenia is responsible for all these issues. Any mediation, discussion, or decision must result in the liberation of the territories of Azerbaijan fully,” he noted.

Makarem Shirazi emphasized that according to the heavenly religions, all the prophets, especially Jesus, were distant from oppression. According to this, all Christians must recommend the Armenian government to fulfill its duty, end the occupation, and refrain from oppression.

https://www.azernews.az/karabakh/170964.html

An Iranian marja' on the same side as israel, isn't that normally what that other clerical family with the same name are accused of.

It just goes to show that no matter how accomplished a faqih a person is, it doesn't mean that they have great wisdom in every subject that they speak about.

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9 minutes ago, Ali_Hussain said:

An Iranian marja' on the same side as israel, isn't that normally what that other clerical family with the same name are accused of.

Salam he is clearly  anti Israel & anti Zionism but he defends Muslims when they are fighting with any group that that are threatening muslim's sovereignty  & he is also against  that Clerical  Family even if they have same name but presence  of the Syrian militant is same as cooperation  of them with Turkey support for following  ISIS agenda in Syria  & Iraq in name of helping Muslims  but with intention of betraying  to Shias of Azerbaijan  & genocide of them & create a base for attacking  to Iran under guise of Pan Turkism & calling themselves as pro sunnis that want free them from Shias like they did in Syria & Iraq. 

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10 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam he is clearly  anti Israel & anti Zionism but he defends Muslims when they are fighting with any group that that are threatening muslim's sovereignty

The people of Nagorno-Karabakh have always been ethnic Armenians, dating back to the pre-Ottoman period. Additionally, the Iranian state has always had better relations with Armenians than the Ottoman state. There has long been a scheme by the Vatican, Zionists, and Wahhabi–Salafi militants to destroy all Eastern Christians, including such Oriental Orthodox as the Armenians. The Young Turks of the late Ottoman period also participated in the Armenian Genocide. Even if “Muslim” heads of state—be they Ottoman, Turkish, Saudi, Emirati, Qatari, even Iranian—claim that Muslims are being oppressed, appealing to their authority doesn’t make their claims true. There are many cases in which Muslims, nominal or otherwise, have been oppressors, e.g., the Pakistani Punjabi elite and its oppression of ethnic and religious minorities vis-à-vis Wahhabi–Salafi proxies. In this case Iranian figures are wrong to take the side of Azerbaijan and the so-called “international community” against Armenia and/or Armenians. The Armenians did not commit aggression against Muslims, but many so-called “Muslims” and the “international community“ have long colluded to deny Nagorno-Karabakh self-determination, while acting as proxies on behalf of the West and Zionism vis-à-vis Turkey, Azerbaijan, and the GCC. During the 1990s Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Pakistan joined forces to attack Armenian and Russian as well as Iranian interests in the Caucasus and South-Central Asia. Contemporaneously, in the Balkans even Iran sided with the West, Israel, Turkey, and the GCC against the Serbs, who were wrongly accused of genocidal action against Muslims, when in fact so-called “Muslims” were responsible for attacks on Serbs in conjunction with the pro-Nazi, clerical-fascist (Ustaše) Croats and Wahhabi–Salafi forces, in order to help the West (NATO) and Israel break up Yugoslavia, destroy the Serbs as a state-forming, Orthodox people, and undermine Russian (pan-Slavic) influence in the region and elsewhere. Ask any informed Serb about this and he will tell the truth.

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Video: Capture of a Syrian militant in Karabakh by Armenian forces

Friday, 30 October 2020 - 17:22

ISWNews Analysis Group: Armenian media published a video of a Syrian militant captured by Armenian forces during the Nagorno-Karabakh war.

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 there is no need for further documents to prove the presence of foreign terrorists in Karabakh to help the Azerbaijani government, but watching this video is not without merit.The Syrian militant confirms that he was trained by the Turkish military and sent to Karabakh with a promise of $ 2,000, and he also confessed that about 200 other terrorists had been with him on a battlefield against Armenian forces.According to sources close to the militants, at least 2,000 armed mercenaries have been transferred from Syria to Azerbaijan so far.

https://english.iswnews.com/16022/video-capture-of-a-syrian-militant-in-karabakh-by-armenian-forces/

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