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I’m an “anti-masker” I deliberately do not wear a mask in public, including on public transportation though it is mandatory, and in stores. Although I am politely told to wear a mask I always shake my

Gonna have to disagree with this one, sorry. People being gainfully employed and being able to eat and provide for their families is much more important than communal religious activities. You don't n

I don't know man. For me, it was the opposite case. The first death that personally affected me was of my 25 year old friend who had no pre-existing medical conditions. She got positive for corona and

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l cannot find the right thread for this post, but in addition to lockdowns, here is other consequential news.

 

DeutsceWelle:  Lufthanza will not only lay-off another 5,000 employees, but will also junk 150 planes.

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l found this article linked to John Hopkins Medical website.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/09/15/scientists-want-predict-covid-19s-long-term-trajectory-heres-why-they-cant/

The methodologies fail as they do with flu and Ebola.

The White House has a wide range of estimates presented.

Why Trump was optimistic.

Why Trump thought the virus would pass in June/Summer.

Projections more than 4 weeks out are "useless."

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On 9/22/2020 at 2:45 AM, hasanhh said:

l cannot find the right thread for this post, but in addition to lockdowns, here is other consequential news.

 

DeutsceWelle:  Lufthanza will not only lay-off another 5,000 employees, but will also junk 150 planes.

Disney announced the 29th that they are laying-off 28k mployees.

Today, the 30th, in her address to the Parliament, Chancellor Merkel said to prepare for a 2nd Wave likely more serious than the first.

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WARNING: this falls into the scary category:

Preface: lf you remember offhand, Sir Anthony Eden had a "kidney infection" which affected his 'behavior' during the Suez Crisis. For a specific analysis, see:  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1356158/ 

More Generally, there is the ergot model associated with the French Revolution. Quo video.

Post Specific:  This 6 minute video from DeutscheWelle starts out a little slow, but then proceeds into C-l9 complications on the brain and kidneys.

https://www.dw.com/en/the-long-term-health-effects-of-coronavirus/av-55130911

For the complete program on C-l9, go to:  https://www.dw.com/en/tv/in-good-shape/s-11938 

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I’m an “anti-masker” I deliberately do not wear a mask in public, including on public transportation though it is mandatory, and in stores. Although I am politely told to wear a mask I always shake my head and decline. I’ve even been thrown out of my local mosque for refusing to wear a mask (and for refusing to participate in the 6 feet apart congregational prayers). A few weeks ago, the management of the mosque called the police on me and they forcefully evicted me from the mosque!

Covid is only a danger for older people with preexisting conditions like diabetes and obesity. In virtually all cases it has only sped up the death of people who were going to die anyways. But because the baby boomers are so entrenched in the corridors of power, the young are being asked to sacrifice their economic future just to delay death of some old people. If it was necessary to enforce these lockdowns that have ravaged the economy, caused massive unemployment and worst of all, disrupted regular religious activity and houses of worship, why wasn’t it enforced in such a way that elderly people should be restricted to their homes and everyone else can carry on with business as usual?

Some 200 thousand mostly old people have died in America. Big deal. I say let them die. What’s worse, some old people dying a little before their time or destroying the economy, laying off millions of people, forcing them into food insecurity, and worst of all, disrupting regular religious services?

Heshy Tischler is a promising local political leader in New York City who has the guts and the charisma to go after the establishment politicians who enforced these appalling lockdowns on us:

 

All I can say is we need a lot more politicians like him on a local level who will actually do something worthwhile on city councils across North America. Currently, he is leading peaceful civil disobedience protests in certain boroughs of New York City where the government is preventing religious activity, and even preventing young children and families from gathering in parks and playgrounds. The governments are not just heavily fining people for not wearing masks, they are actually arresting people. It’s getting completely ridiculous in places like Ontario and New York. Doug Ford and Andrew Cuomo, premier and governor of both those places respectively, are totally unfit to govern.

 

I see Orthodox Jews and even some Christians resisting these government mandates lockdowns and restrictions on their religious liberty in the name of “public health safety”, but where are the Muslims? Why are our Mosques enforcing the ridiculous social distancing during congregational Salah?

According to our Sunni Ulama such congregational Salah is not only invalid, it is a mockery of an act of worship, an act of sacrilege, which is why I refuse to partake in it.

The problem is our Mosques here in the West are managed by a class of people whose faces you would never expect to see in the Mosques back home in the Muslim world. Just because they are highly educated and are financially well off means they can control our Mosques? They don’t have any religious motivation for doing so either, they are simply on a power trip.

Likewise, it is not allowed to cover your face in Salah. Even a woman cannot cover her face in Salah, although women are either strongly encouraged or obligated to cover their face otherwise for modesty and hijab.

More and more Americans are beginning to stand up against this Covid fear-mongering. I attribute this to the long American tradition of freedom and liberty. Europe is different because they don’t have such a strong tradition, their people are more politically docile, in fact, their people are more susceptible to authoritarianism and fascism as recent history of the 20th century has shown.

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7 minutes ago, Cherub786 said:

I’m an “anti-masker” I deliberately do not wear a mask in public, including on public transportation though it is mandatory, and in stores. Although I am politely told to wear a mask I always shake my head and decline. I’ve even been thrown out of my local mosque for refusing to wear a mask (and for refusing to participate in the 6 feet apart congregational prayers). A few weeks ago, the management of the mosque called the police on me and they forcefully evicted me from the mosque!

Covid is only a danger for older people with preexisting conditions like diabetes and obesity. In virtually all cases it has only sped up the death of people who were going to die anyways. But because the baby boomers are so entrenched in the corridors of power, the young are being asked to sacrifice their economic future just to delay death of some old people. If it was necessary to enforce these lockdowns that have ravaged the economy, caused massive unemployment and worst of all, disrupted regular religious activity and houses of worship, why wasn’t it enforced in such a way that elderly people should be restricted to their homes and everyone else can carry on with business as usual?

Some 200 thousand mostly old people have died in America. Big deal. I say let them die. What’s worse, some old people dying a little before their time or destroying the economy, laying off millions of people, forcing them into food insecurity, and worst of all, disrupting regular religious services?

Heshy Tischler is a promising local political leader in New York City who has the guts and the charisma to go after the establishment politicians who enforced these appalling lockdowns on us:

 

All I can say is we need a lot more politicians like him on a local level who will actually do something worthwhile on city councils across North America. Currently, he is leading peaceful civil disobedience protests in certain boroughs of New York City where the government is preventing religious activity, and even preventing young children and families from gathering in parks and playgrounds. The governments are not just heavily fining people for not wearing masks, they are actually arresting people. It’s getting completely ridiculous in places like Ontario and New York. Doug Ford and Andrew Cuomo, premier and governor of both those places respectively, are totally unfit to govern.

 

I see Orthodox Jews and even some Christians resisting these government mandates lockdowns and restrictions on their religious liberty in the name of “public health safety”, but where are the Muslims? Why are our Mosques enforcing the ridiculous social distancing during congregational Salah?

According to our Sunni Ulama such congregational Salah is not only invalid, it is a mockery of an act of worship, an act of sacrilege, which is why I refuse to partake in it.

The problem is our Mosques here in the West are managed by a class of people whose faces you would never expect to see in the Mosques back home in the Muslim world. Just because they are highly educated and are financially well off means they can control our Mosques? They don’t have any religious motivation for doing so either, they are simply on a power trip.

Likewise, it is not allowed to cover your face in Salah. Even a woman cannot cover her face in Salah, although women are either strongly encouraged or obligated to cover their face otherwise for modesty and hijab.

More and more Americans are beginning to stand up against this Covid fear-mongering. I attribute this to the long American tradition of freedom and liberty. Europe is different because they don’t have such a strong tradition, their people are more politically docile, in fact, their people are more susceptible to authoritarianism and fascism as recent history of the 20th century has shown.

I don't know man. For me, it was the opposite case. The first death that personally affected me was of my 25 year old friend who had no pre-existing medical conditions. She got positive for corona and then passed away. Many young people have died :/ I think it's disrespectful to the memory of the Fallen to think of it as something so light. 

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Finance   C-19 and Technology with Tax Cuts = lnflation

With more money freed from taxes, it needs a place to "invest".

https://www.thenational.ae/business/comment/how-the-global-pandemic-will-speed-up-the-digitalisation-of-financial-services-1.1073750 

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18 hours ago, Cherub786 said:

worst of all, disrupted regular religious activity and houses of worship

Is this your type of Islam? You put the communal religious activities above employment and other things that were restricted by the lockdowns? Is the starvation of unemployed people less important to you than going to the mosque? 

It's not all about older people: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/magazine/covid-myocarditis-heart-disease.html

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Another study, published this month in the same journal, looked at 26 Ohio State athletes who experienced Covid-19 with mild or no symptoms and detected evidence of possible myocarditis in five of them and lesser abnormalities in nine more.

 

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Some 200 thousand mostly old people have died in America. Big deal. I say let them die.

Is this how you would speak about your own parents?

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Is this your type of Islam? You put the communal religious activities above employment and other things that were restricted by the lockdowns? Is the starvation of unemployed people less important to you than going to the mosque? 

I don’t understand, how is me going to the Mosque resulting in starvation of unemployed people or affecting employment? Like I said, blame the government for unemployment and food insecurity. They implemented these lockdowns and restrictions that hit the common man the worst. The rich and powerful are still rich and powerful. It was all done in the name of old people with preexisting conditions. For their sake people lost their jobs in the millions, and people are unsure if they will have food on the table for themselves and their children tonight. Blame the government, blame the government, blame the government, blame China, blame WHO, blame Xi, blame that hideous baboon Tedros.

But to answer your question, yes, communal religious activities are far more important than employment and other things that were restricted by the lockdowns.

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Is this how you would speak about your own parents?

Of course not. No one should speak like that about their own parents.

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On average 160,000 people die of Chronic Respiratory illnesses in the US annually. Between 30-60,000 die of the flu/flu related illnesses. This is before Covid. It will be interesting to see the figures on this once all the data is collected and published for 2020. I'm guessing these numbers will be significantly lower meaning a huge percentage of Covid deaths reported are actually fraudulant.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/504167-facebook-fact-checkers-censorship/

 

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On 10/10/2020 at 6:20 PM, Cherub786 said:

But to answer your question, yes, communal religious activities are far more important than employment and other things that were restricted by the lockdowns.

Gonna have to disagree with this one, sorry. People being gainfully employed and being able to eat and provide for their families is much more important than communal religious activities. You don't need to go to a mosque to practice Islam, especially when you can know that other Muslims are praying at the same time as you every day in their own homes & you can watch Khutbah online on Fridays.

I don't go to a mosque because there is no Shia mosque anywhere near me & I don't feel like dealing with the drama of being criticized for how I pray, the fact that I don't wear a thobe, etc. COVID is even more of a reason why I don't go.

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