COVlD-19 Big Picture

[Brother Hassan]

 

 

[Haji 2003]

In the movie Aliens it dawns on the characters that they can't use their weapons:

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So, if they fire their weapons in there, won't they rupture the cooling system?
- Yeah. She's absolutely right.
- So what?
This whole station is basically a big fusion reactor.
Right?
So she's talking about a thermonuclear explosion and "Adis, muchachos".
Oh, great. Wonderful.

 

In a similar fashion the penny is beginning to drop that post Covid-19 international travel may no longer be the same, a comment in the FT:

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I predict the cost of travel insurance will sky rocket...and be compulsory on all international flights....it will have to cover the horror of arriving  at the destination airport and being declared covid positive (after having been cleared at the departure airport). Since nobody with covid is allowed on any flight....you cannot head home even if there may be a convenient flight two hours later...so you have to stay 14 days in airport quarantine. This may be a worst case scenario ...but it could spell the end of low cost carriers , since the travel insurance will make  such travel way too expensive.

 

[hasanhh]

Lufthanza is closing Germanwings, which is now the first airline to collapse from the C-19 Crisis.

[hasanhh]

On 4/6/2020 at 3:06 PM, iCenozoic said:

We're talking about using genetics of Iranians to construct a virus to attack the Iranian govt.

Well, if the US-ers did, the US-er gov't messed up apparently. Last night on the news, a couple of nutworks ran stories about how the Amerikan-Black community is disproportionally dying from C-19.  

[notme]

58 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

Well, if the US-ers did, the US-er gov't messed up apparently. Last night on the news, a couple of nutworks ran stories about how the Amerikan-Black community is disproportionally dying from C-19.  

I wonder if this is natural, cultural (less likely to go to doctor early and/or doctors less attentive), or due to reduced access to healthcare over a lifetime increasing incidence of pre-existing conditions. 

[Haji 2003]

1 hour ago, notme said:

I wonder if this is natural, cultural (less likely to go to doctor early and/or doctors less attentive), or due to reduced access to healthcare over a lifetime increasing incidence of pre-existing conditions. 

Being overweight is also a risk factor.

[notme]

35 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Being overweight is also a risk factor.

That would be an untreated pre-existing medical condition, but I don't know that black Americans are more likely to be overweight than other race Americans. Might be, but I don't know. I do know that poor people have less access to healthy foods and so are more likely to be overweight, but even though black people are more likely to be poor, poor people are more likely to be white. 

Studies have indicated that black mothers are more than twice as likely as all other races to die during childbirth. The belief is that doctors do not take their pain seriously. It is worth considering that the same could be happening here. 

[hasanhh]

A local news presenter told this story today that one of her girlfriends lost her job in a covid-19 way and then drank alcohol so much over three days that her children called 9-11.

[iCenozoic]

I keep hearing of reports of false not numbers coming out of China, including the one from an Iranian professional. 

Has anyone else heard these reports? Chinas numbers do seem relatively low compared to most other developed countries.

[Haji 2003]

2 hours ago, iCenozoic said:

I keep hearing of reports of false not numbers coming out of China, including the one from an Iranian professional. 

Has anyone else heard these reports? Chinas numbers do seem relatively low compared to most other developed countries.

The Chinese numbers are 100% fiction. Also complete fiction is the idea that Western countries had/have no idea what the real numbers are. What are intelligence agencies for?

A reason why the Chinese numbers make no sense (to me) is that for the sake of that number of dead people they ship in thousands of healthcare workers from all over China to help out in Hubei. The latter is not a secret, their media has been boasting about it. 

Well other countries have more dead people than the official Chinese numbers and they've not needed to transport the same train/plane/coach loads of workers from elsewhere.

But remember that China works on a different scale to the rest of us. 20-30 million died in the Taiping rebellion of the mid 19th century.

 

[notme]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/politics/us-intelligence-report-china-coronavirus/index.html

November? 

[hasanhh]

18 minutes ago, notme said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/politics/us-intelligence-report-china-coronavirus/index.html

November? 

These kinds of reports are standard fare..Offhand, if you remember, Bill Clinton talked about bio-security in public in the 90s.

OBTW: France is going to extend its lockdown. Peru and Switzerland have already "extended" their 'measures.'

Edited April 8, 2020 by hasanhh
Peru, Swiss

[Allah Seeker]

Salam,

Some of you might have heard of David Icke, and especially in the past few weeks there was an interview of his that went viral, which millions of people have watched. Since then he has been banned on many places, and he talks about his view of the bigger picture. Now he came out with a new interview that I will share here. it is over 2 hours long, and I watched it all. It is inspirational and very informative. In addition to this I will share my notes of the main points that I saw as relevant, that summarize the whole thing:

My notes are a mess, but I think you will understand what the point is:

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There is no virus, it is a scam.

 

Crisis created by computer models, and a virus that has not been proven to exist.

 

-COVID 19 test is testing (RTPCR) for DNA that is unrelated to any virus. This DNA was obtained from lungs of dead people in early stages of WUHAN.

 

-Did not use mainstream way of identifying pathogen in some 4-step scientific process, and a lot of people have this genetic material. 

 

RTPCR does not test of how much of the “Virus” you have. You need massive amounts of it to be sick. 

 

Also symptoms are used as reason to put COVID-19 at 

 

-People say the victims died after being tested for COVID 19, and not that they died “from” COVID 19

Lombardi like Wuhan very polluted

-All people who died, died from other diseases such as 99% statistic from those who died in Italy.

-Do not resuscitate” forms, making old people not get treated. which helps more people die from other things

 

They control the figures:

 

Way of test, diagnose, and the way they count, making them control the figures, so they can enforce lockdown

 

Hence, they can control when this thing ends.

 

1 - He believes that that this will be over when

Destroyed economy

2 - Vast people lose their income and depend on state

 

-How can it be ‘gone’ in China? It does not make sense.

 

Computer modeling telling government how many people will die, dictates lockdowns.

In a matter of days/weeks we have gone from what is perceived as “free world” to “fascism, tyranny” by a handful people have billions under lockdown.

 

Gates and Melinda foundation:

 

Heavily involved

 

Bill Gates is second biggest funder of WHO after the US government. 

 

Who is driving this:

 

Pyramid of people and each stage knows less and less. The only way to control the world by having compartmentalization. Everyone below including Doctors “are only following orders”. 

 

G5:

zero testing has been done on 5G, because it is harmful

 

It causes harm and problem with absorbing Oxygen, which is then blamed on COVID-19

 

-Ability to manipulate people psychologically

-Poisons the cells via the Electromagnetic Fields

-Release exosomes as a reaction of being poisoned.

-While isolated, they are building towers as it is considered essential work for top of pyramid - cult. Elon Musk handling this part.

-Using satellites to beam 5G, aiming at 42 thousand, 

-Astronomy society is complaining that it decreases visibility. 

-Elon Musk got permission to handle this during lockdown.

-Technological sub-reality to which the human mind will be connected to via AI, with time frame pointing towards 2030.

 

Doctors are being told that they should treat people with lung problems as though they are COVID-19. 

 

Dr.. In New York describes how the lungs look like people who are simply not getting enough oxygen.

 

60 GigaHerz 5G stops human body and blood absorbing oxygen

 

While on lockdown they are putting 5G in schools and hospitals

 

All the war zone hospitals are empty

 

Ofcom .. government sensor and regulator or British broadcasting , run by lady called Melany something. They told British broadcasters, that they will face serious sanctions if they allow any discussion on radio stations in the connection of 5G and COVID-19

 

-Campaign to ban people who make that connection. 

-No right to free debate

-This ban proves there is a link between the two. “If you can’t win a debate, then don’t have it”.

 

5G towers in parts of UK have been burnt. 

 

Enter nano bots in our bodies that will connect with 5G grid to control us further

 

He was told late 90’s by someone that people already were injected with vaccines that have microchips in them, as well as quantum tatoo. 

 

They said there is 7 vaccines in works for COVID-19 all funded by Bill Gates. 

 

Event 201 simulation Coronavirus pandemic showing exactly how authorities would react, which is what happened - 6 weeks before outbreak. WHO also ran corona virus simulation. John Hopkins in 2018 ran simulation, and same John Hopkins is in charge of figures today. 

Basically if want to come out of lockdown you must be safe and vaccinated. With the quantum tattoo they can track exactly who is vaccinated and who isn’t. 

 

Now democracy is suspended and tracking of people is accepted, just as was done with the beach visitors that were openly tracked to 40 states of the US.

 

People not allowed to gather, so can not protest.

 

If you want to see the plan for the west, look at China today:

 

Millions of face recognition cameras logging behavior

Social credit scores

When level is low enough, banned from flying or using train

Total and utter control

 

Moving into Orwelian society where synthetic food is controlled by government. Restaurants have been destroyed on a large scale and if they control food, they will control you. With nano technology via vaccines and AI they will control thoughts. Some Google guy said that by 2030 humans will have human thinking will be connected to AI, until they become one. Elon Musk came out to say AI could be end of humanity. Same guy started company called Neurolink that connects humans to computers. Also Tesla making autonomous cars that make computers in control of where you go. So government can control where you go. “Smart Motorways” being built. Destroying taxi business, including uber. Phasing out diesel and petrol cars with excuse of saving environment. 

 

Destroy business and employment to create mass global dependency on the state. Via “stimulus packages”. Then destroy one government economy after the other. Next step is to say the old economic system doesn’t work, so we need a new one. The new one will be an electronic system that they will be aware of every purchase, and in power to decide who can buy and who can’t.

 

They say money is dangerous because you can get virus from it. So when you go into a shop and the card is not working, you won’t be able to say “ok, I’ll pay with cash”.

 

Cash —> card —> phone —> microchip 

 

Technocratic party of Canada … Elon Musk’s grandfather was part of this that advocated a society as such.

 

Handful of psychopaths and idiots 

 

 

His solution:

 

We got into this mess through the acquiescence or illusion of power. Once we realize the truth, we will see that the few don’t have any power. 

 

It seems that the world has to get real bad before people realize that the world is not run the way we think it goes. So this is not just a danger, but a beautiful opportunity. A lot of people’s perception of the world will have changed in the past 3 weeks. We will see in the weeks to come what impact that mass realization of the perception of power will have. This could be the turning point when humanity will get off its knees.

 

This power has power by convincing us that they have power. We have chance to break the mind spell and see behind the curtain. We see that they are not powerful at all.

 

This cult has broken cover and entered the room with the door closing behind them. Now it is a new game. 

 

We should not fear them, because we are more powerful than they. 

 

The cult is feeding off fear of people. And the conflict comes when people try to impose their opinions and beliefs on others. Celebrating diversity and uniqueness and different ways and angles of seeing things, to learn from each other. Not the “I am right”. Everyone has a right to their opinion, and nobody is all right or all wrong, just in degrees.

 

This cult is locking down all of humanity regardless of religion. Let this be the time when we see the fallacy of allowing ourselves to be controlled by dividing and conquering us. The same hands are holding all the strings while we fight down here. We are in this together and get out together. “Do what you feel to be right, do what you know to be right, and you will be a unique contribution”. “We are all great, and most people have forgotten.”

 

 

The video link to the interview is below:

https://www.[Edited Out]ute.com/video/LDjFqF7nhqlK/?fbclid=IwAR37v269Ea2W30g0DRqB9gm9hOc8BJHE42zD_Fnh2pIiLM_s5qymthg99vM

 

Thank you

 

[Brother Hassan]

2 hours ago, 313 Seeker said:

Some of you might have heard of David Icke, and especially in the past few weeks there was an interview of his that went viral

 

2 hours ago, 313 Seeker said:

There is no virus, it is a scam.

Connect those dots. 

[Haji 2003]

[AkhiraisReal]

@313 Seeker

David Icke has some information, but sometimes it feels like the guy is mixing truth with falsehood. Like a shill.

He do have many interesting points though, whether it's true or not. I don't know.

[Allah Seeker]

Salam,

I would like to ask you all dear brothers and sisters to pray hard tonight, and if possible every night, that this crisis doesn't get highjacked by the hezbulshaytan who are planning to create a horrible world for us and our children. We want to live in a free world with a good economic system free of interest, and no mad totalitarian sensoring of Truth, no mad surveillance, no tyranny and anti Islamic campaigns. Do your duty to your Imam El zaman, and pray hard for the victory of Allah in the heavens and on Earth. Pray that the satanic Zionist wahabi movement led by Iblis, sufiani, and mesih El dajjal fails in every way sooner rather than later. Pray against them tonight. Pray against the enemies of the Imam who are your enemies. Please pray, because maybe God will turn the tides because of your duas. Please, we don't want to live in a horrible world without liberties and while we are being controlled by anti Islamic psychopaths who worship Satan (God forbid). Please pray and please hurry, and do it from the heart . 

Thank you

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 4/8/2020 at 8:48 PM, iCenozoic said:

I keep hearing of reports of false not numbers coming out of China, including the one from an Iranian professional. 

Has anyone else heard these reports? Chinas numbers do seem relatively low compared to most other developed countries.

Hi this is just another political issue in Iran between politicians  in current  government that are trying to keep alive Iran-America talks by bashing China & making a delusion that Iran is colonizing by China & Russia instead of corporation with them to fight corona virus. 

[Allah Seeker]

Have you guys seen The Matrix?"

Do you remember when Trinity removed the bug from Neo? If you haven't seen the Matrix, the go see it now!

This is really happening now via nano bots that will be linked to 5G, and can be injected with vaccines.

Nano bots looking like spiders in the size of a red blood cell.

DNA-repair nanobots

Are we already bugged?

 

[notme]

20 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

This is really happening now via nano bots that will be linked to 5G, and can be injected with vaccines.

Hold on, hold on, wait wait wait! 

How are these 5g satellites orbiting the Earth? 

Is the Earth flat and there is no danger from orbiting satellites controlling us through vaccines, or is the Earth a sphere spinning in space and we have launched satellites to orbit it, which you say we should fear? 

Maybe you should stick to one conspiracy theory at a time. 

[Allah Seeker]

44 minutes ago, notme said:

Hold on, hold on, wait wait wait! 

How are these 5g satellites orbiting the Earth? 

Is the Earth flat and there is no danger from orbiting satellites controlling us through vaccines, or is the Earth a sphere spinning in space and we have launched satellites to orbit it, which you say we should fear? 

Maybe you should stick to one conspiracy theory at a time. 

this video isn't about satellites is it .. 

[notme]

1 hour ago, 313 Seeker said:

this video isn't about satellites is it .. 

No idea. I don't watch videos. I only read. 

And what I've read is that 5G will be delivered by a network of 1000 satellites, in addition to smaller towers than current 4G needs. 

[Allah Seeker]

9 minutes ago, notme said:

No idea. I don't watch videos. I only read. 

And what I've read is that 5G will be delivered by a network of 1000 satellites, in addition to smaller towers than current 4G needs. 

Yes Elon Musk is rolling it out as we speak. It's a pity you don't watch that video, but then again maybe it's better. This one specifically is hard to digest. If you want to discuss satellites, then on another thread please. Thank you 

[notme]

Just now, 313 Seeker said:

Yes Elon Musk is rolling it out as we speak. It's a pity you don't watch that video, but then again maybe it's better. This one specifically is hard to digest. If you want to discuss satellites, then on another thread please. Thank you 

Yes. Compartmentalization helps a lot with maintaining flawed logic.

If you want to discuss conspiracy theories about vaccines and 5G communication, shouldn't those be elsewhere too, not in a discussion of conspiracy theories surrounding COVID-19? 

[Allah Seeker]

2 minutes ago, notme said:

Yes. Compartmentalization helps a lot with maintaining flawed logic.

why flawed logic? You are being off topic. If you want to discuss flat Earth concepts, then that is the wrong thread, wouldn't you agree?

2 minutes ago, notme said:

If you want to discuss conspiracy theories about vaccines and 5G communication, shouldn't those be elsewhere too, not in a discussion of conspiracy theories surrounding COVID-19? 

not if the conspiracy theories are related to the COVID-19 mania. We are discussing the big picture, and just because you don't like what some people say, or their opinions of the big picture, you don't need to get upset at it. Not good for your heart!

[notme]

1 minute ago, 313 Seeker said:

why flawed logic? You are being off topic. If you want to discuss flat Earth concepts, then that is the wrong thread, wouldn't you agree?

not if the conspiracy theories are related to the COVID-19 mania. We are discussing the big picture, and just because you don't like what some people say, or their opinions of the big picture, you don't need to get upset at it. Not good for your heart!

Flawed logic is logic which does not maintain internal consistency. For example fear of satellite communication along with denial of the existence of satellites. 

There is no vaccine for COVID-19. Frankly, if They wanted to implant everyone with nanobots, vaccines would be an utterly unnecessary expense and additional step. Such machines could more reliably be delivered in food or water, or even in the air we breathe. 

[Allah Seeker]

5 minutes ago, notme said:

machines could more reliably be delivered in food or water, or even in the air we breathe.

they actually mention this in the video. It's on food packaging, inside food. It is everywhere. 

It is only like 10 minutes, and it's clips of mostly mainstream media, so you won't get too much of fit. Come on! Make that one exception for your good friend 313 seeker! watch that one video and tell us what you think. thank you

[hasanhh]

NBC said, l believe, that the City of Oakland has set up one-way sidewalks.

"To Prevent Bunching"

Good ldea

[notme]

48 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

NBC said, l believe, that the City of Oakland has set up one-way sidewalks.

"To Prevent Bunching"

Good ldea

My uncle manages a grocery store chain, and they've made all the aisles one-way. 

[Nadeemsayyed110]

On 4/5/2020 at 1:07 PM, hasanhh said:

Think of this question: would you create a weapon you have no control over and as of today have 1/4 of reported global infections?

Humans don't have control over any weapon. Be it a simple gun if fell in wrong hands can be a problem. 

Weapons are created to kill, Be it a gun, missiles, nuclear weapon or a bio weapon. 

[Allah Seeker]

Guys, this is the hundredth time I see these numbers. Come on! If these are true, then how can this not be a hoax?

please I beg you .. prove these numbers wrong

[Haji 2003]

10 hours ago, 313 Seeker said:

Guys, this is the hundredth time I see these numbers. Come on! If these are true, then how can this not be a hoax?

please I beg you .. prove these numbers wrong

Two simple questions:

1. Do you personally know anyone who works in the medical /healthcare field?
2. If you do, are they reporting business as usual?

[starlight]

10 hours ago, 313 Seeker said:

Guys, this is the hundredth time I see these numbers. Come on! If these are true, then how can this not be a hoax?

please I beg you .. prove these numbers wrong

https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/verify-numbers-comparing-common-causes-of-deaths-to-covid-19-leave-out-context/507-d8cf14f8-ebc7-4e53-bbe9-767650152b4a

[Haji 2003]

5 minutes ago, starlight said:

https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/verify/verify-numbers-comparing-common-causes-of-deaths-to-covid-19-leave-out-context/507-d8cf14f8-ebc7-4e53-bbe9-767650152b4a

I'm getting an access denied page.

[starlight]

@Haji 2003

Social media users and public figures alike have compared the numbers of deaths thus far in the COVID-19 pandemic to the number of deaths for other diseases for the past couple of months.

This is often done to downplay the severity of the pandemic. 

However, the comparisons made are often apples to oranges and the data shared is often missing context or just flat incorrect.

First of all, it’s moot to even compare the number of COVID-19 deaths at this point to other kinds of causes of deaths. The numbers for most of these items are high, but fairly stable over time. 

However, coronavirus deaths have been growing exponentially. That means each day the increase grows by a rate that becomes more rapid in proportion to the growing total number.  

Let’s take a look at a few WHO situation reports as an example. On March 1, they reported there were 53 deaths in the last 24 hours. There were 862 deaths in the last 24 hours on March 16. There were 3215 new deaths in the last 24 hours according to the most recent situation report on March 30.

This matches the trend in numbers of total new cases. A graph of total cases day-by-day is shown in the bottom right of Johns Hopkins’ coronavirus data map. The graph shows how there are many more new cases per day now than there were near the beginning of March.

But are the numbers shown at least correct? Well, not necessarily.

These statistics aren’t tracked on a weekly basis globally. Instead, you have to estimate based on previous annual totals or estimates.

For example, the World Health Organization estimates there are between 290,000 and 650,000 flu deaths each year. They don’t track the exact total annually and made this estimate in December 2017. Nonetheless, if you make an estimate of what that would look like 85 days into a 366 day year, there would be between 67,350 and 150,956 deaths to the flu at this point in the year. The number shown above falls in that range, but it’s important to note just how wide that range is.

Not every number shown in the picture falls in the estimated range, however. Take the last number: 390,908 deaths to HIV/AIDS. The last annual estimate we have to work with is the 2018 numbers when somewhere between 570,000 and 1,100,000 died from AIDS-related illnesses, according to UN AIDS. That should be between 132,377 and 255,464 deaths when translated to just 85 days. That’s well under the figure given in the meme.

BOTTOM LINE

If you're going to try and compare COVID-19’s death toll to most other common causes of deaths, you need to include context. The figures surrounding coronavirus have grown exponentially, while the other causes of deaths are generally estimated on an annual basis.