COVlD-19 Big Picture

[notme]

2 hours ago, The Green Knight said:

Good News

Children and younglings do not die nor get seriously affected by COVID-19. Scientists call it "mysterious".

 

This is not true. An infant in Chicago died. But it is true that children and infants who are infected rarely die. 

[Allah Seeker]

Here is another article to support the above:

Bill Gates will use microchip implants to fight coronavirus

This is basically an article talking how he is using the Corona Virus as an excuse to put a mark on all of mankind, that can eventually be used to roll-out the one-world crypto currency and one-world ID. AKA Antichrist system.

What is interesting here, is that the article says the following:

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The main reason many Christians and some Shia Muslims are opposed to body-invasive identification technologies, however helpful such technologies are for preventing pandemics, is because they believe that such technologies are the so called ‘Mark of Satan’ mentioned in the Bible and some Mahdi prophecies. In the Book of Revelations in the Bible, anyone who does not have this “mark” is not allowed to buy or sell anything.

 

Guys, I'm proud to be among the "some" Shia Muslims. Alhamdulilah. Resistance!

[The Green Knight]

2 hours ago, notme said:

This is not true. An infant in Chicago died. But it is true that children and infants who are infected rarely die. 

Worldometers site has yet to record that death then.

2 hours ago, notme said:

But it is true that children and infants who are infected rarely die.

They "rarely die" is a vastly inaccurate statement according to statistics.

Edited March 29, 2020 by The Green Knight

[iCenozoic]

50 minutes ago, The Green Knight said:

Worldometers site has yet to record that death then.

They "rarely die" is a vastly inaccurate statement according to statistics.

I posted a link to the infant from Illinois that has died as well. But that case was just reported today.

https://www.livescience.com/us-infant-dies-coronavirus.html - Illinois

https://www.newsweek.com/u-s-coronavirus-update-death-toll-2000-1494859 - Chicago

Edited March 29, 2020 by iCenozoic

[The Green Knight]

Just now, iCenozoic said:

I posted a link to the infant from Illinois that has died as well. But that case was just reported today.

I do not doubt that piece of news. Exceptions are always there. I imagine there were complications.

[notme]

56 minutes ago, The Green Knight said:

Worldometers site has yet to record that death then.

Correct. This was very recent. 

[The Green Knight]

BTW You friends must have realized by now that I only wish to give real hope through facts to all readers. Hope and supportive evidence is a great tonic in these troubling times while anxiety and stress are secret killers. You would agree.

 

[The Green Knight]

Anyway, who else thinks these official figures are watered down and sometimes doctored? I know here in Pakistan despite all efforts to ID corona patients (without accurate lab tests) there are lots of people everywhere who are unregistered, mostly because they have chosen to keep their condition private and/or misidentified it and so remain under the radar. This may be one of the biggest reasons why information like death rate is not the same. But definitely the number of infected (and the dead) is much higher. I estimate it is safe to multiply it with 1.5 at least to have a more accurate idea. Let us also not forget how everything our politicians do is for the economy and not the people, and they will do whatever necessary to help economy by doctoring certain things hitting the media.

Edited March 29, 2020 by The Green Knight

[Allah Seeker]

Salam,

I understand that many Muslims don't want to think about Satanic conspiracies of our current world powers. Already during the time of Jesus, he ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) was quoted as saying that the prince of darkness was the king of the world. So imagine now! During Prophet Mohammed's time, he ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) also referred to his era as the end times. We are 1400 years after that!

It is understandable that people want to put their heads in the sand and live by the motto of "ignorance is bliss"! I understand it because we seem to be all very helpless against it. What can we do? We can do a lot! Let me summarize:

1 - Pray Pray Pray .. Pray for the emergence of the Victory of God. Pray for Allah to protect you and your family from his chastisement and from the plans and conspiracies of Satan. If you know more specifics, your prayers can also be more specific. Pray pray pray .. not just the traditional one, but always keep God in your mind and talk to Him all the time wherever you may be.

2 - Keep informed and educated. Someone made the point somewhere today that we should leave it to God and not worry or discuss the conspiracies of Satan, if I understood correctly. Yes, we keep it to God, but we must also do something. When the Prophets were fighting against the kofar against all odds, they were gathering information and intelligence, and scheming and plotting too. We know for fact that Imam Ali and Prophet Mohammed were master schemers. The same we have in the Qur'an with the likes of Prophet Solomon and how he conspired against Queen Sheeba and in the end she converted from the heart away from Paganism. As soon as we realize how powerful we are through prayers, we lose the fear of taking on the whole world of evil in sha Allah.

3 - Expose and warn. This is the way of the Prophet as well. Unless you fear for your lives in doing so, simply exposing the truth is a big slap against the devil, and I believe that if we don't do it, that we might be counted as a taghut oppressor. Wasn't it Imam Hussein who said that "being silent in face of oppression is like taking part"?? Something along those lines.

4 - Believe in the Qur'an and Ahl bayt. They tell us that plan of the wicked people is weak. The Antichrist and Antimahdi are following a tight schedule linked to all kinds of things that are interdependent. A lot of things that they planned did not go the way they needed it to go. For instance, I truly believe they wanted to disarm Hezbollah and defeat the WF in Iran. Instead they have them all over the place now like a dagger in their side. Hamas is still there and the rockets are getting more. The Palestinian cause isn't dead, and Communist Russian and China aren't playing ball as expected either. Monotheism is spreading like crazy, and they have a tight schedule!! They follow all kinds of timings and astrological deadlines. So, what they will end up doing in sha Allah, is push out the Messiah and Sufiani without a Parachute from the symbolic airplane.

5 - At the same time we are helpless more than ever for any Momin group in history (That's why God will gather the 313 spontaneously, supposedly). So there is truth in leaving it to God beyond self education, exposure, and mental resistance, and above all - prayer. We should still keep in mind that defeating such powers can only happen with a miracle. I think I said enough about this, and I want to remind to nurture and strengthen your relationship with God, and pray pray pray. Pray for every little and big thing as much as possible. And keep informed, so that we don't confuse movements as good when they are bad. So we can prepare and be ready. I think that judging is in the way of al-Hakam, al-Khabeer, al-Aleem, al-Basir, etc. 

Thanks,

[MartyS]

Thank you, everyone, for sharing your insight, understandings, and faith. My favorite advice is "Pray, Pray, Pray." I think we can agree the power behind Covid-19 is greater than national or government powers. Nevertheless, there is a Power that is greater than the devil. Satan is already defeated, and his time for wreaking havok on the Earth is short. Before Jesus went back to heaven, He said this...

25 "These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you.
26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid.
28 You heard me say to you, 'I am going away, and I will come to you.' If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
29 And now I have told you before it takes place, so that when it does take place you may believe.
30 I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no claim on me, - John 14:25-30

God will save us. We can trust Him. May we spend eternity together praising Him!

[Allah Seeker]

I meant to post the following post here .. 

 

[Haji 2003]

Here's the chance for conspiracy theorists to do some mental gymnastics.

The picture was taken at Cheltenham (England) where two weeks ago there was an annual horse-racing fixture. The people who attend such events tend to be better off and more likely voters for the right-wing party in power (the Conservatives).

At the time there were concerns that this event should have been cancelled because of the likelihood of infection. But the government policy was then to go for 'herd immunity', a stance they have since changed.

 

[hasanhh]

UPDATE:

On 3/29/2020 at 8:48 AM, notme said:

This is not true. An infant in Chicago died. But it is true that children and infants who are infected rarely die. 

On CBS This Morning , 30March2020, interviewed was Chicago Health Comissioner Alwady who said that when reports of this infant's death was reported, emergency rooms in Chicago were inundated with mothers with their infants wanting them checked for C-19.

OPINE: Which of course spread the disease further.

[Ashvazdanghe]

9 hours ago, MartyS said:

Satan is already defeated, and his time for wreaking havok on the Earth is short. Before Jesus went back to heaven, He said this...

Hi Satan not defeated yet because we see spreading sin & disobeying Allah even this hard days but he will defeat after reappearance of Imam Mahdi (aj) & second coming of Jesus for helping & verifying him then we can announce defeating of Satan.

[hasanhh]

46 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Hi Satan not defeated yet because we see spreading sin & disobeying Allah even this hard days but he will defeat after reappearance of Imam Mahdi (aj) & second coming of Jesus for helping & verifying him then we can announce defeating of Satan.

Salam,

Shatan cannot be "defeated" because he is one of those that Allah -(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). gave "respite" to. Ayat 7:15 et alia. Plus, Shatan can only suggest with a warning: Sura an-Nas;  Ayat 7:64 and 14:22, for examples .

Satan will go to Jehenna with most of el-Alameen. lblis-Satan already know this.

[Belle]

Lol I've been away too long. When did ShiaChat become a hub for conspiracy theories? I will admit, they are quite entertaining, but so what? What if you can figure out what's really going on? You can't change anything. You're not a big enough player. Too many layers to everything and grey areas and competing agendas.

Just saying :P

 

 

[Allah Seeker]

1 hour ago, hasanhh said:

Shatan cannot be "defeated" because he is one of those that Allah -(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). gave "respite"

only up to certain appointed time. I heard the Mahdi will kill him. Everyone will die, including the angel of death himself, just Allah doesn't die.

[Allah Seeker]

25 minutes ago, Belle said:

What if you can figure out what's really going on? You can't change anything. You're not a big enough player. Too many layers to everything and grey areas and competing agendas.

that is simply not true! you can ask God to empower you to make a difference. Why? As a means of closeness to God.

[Belle]

2 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

that is simply not true! you can ask God to empower you to make a difference. Why? As a means of closeness to God.

Most people just pray for empowerment. Most don't actually go out there and make a plan and execute actions that lead to empowerment. That takes risks.

Be careful, because if you only keep praying and getting close to God, you'll wake up one day and wonder why everyone else got far ahead in life and why God "left you behind"

Not literally you, I use "you" as people in general 

[Allah Seeker]

1 minute ago, Belle said:

Most people just pray for empowerment. Most don't actually go out there and make a plan and execute actions that lead to empowerment. That takes risks.

Be careful, because if you only keep praying and getting close to God, you'll wake up one day and wonder why everyone else got far ahead in life and why God "left you behind"

Not literally you, I use "you" as people in general 

I agree 100% except that everybody is praying for empowerment. If that was true, then I can guarantee you that Shia would be empowered. What is more important than empowerment though, and should come first:

1 - Ask for peace and blessings upon Mohammed and his progeny

2 - Ask for forgiveness in as many ways as possible, and in as much detail as possible, with as much fear and terror as possible

3 - Ask for guidance because power without guidance is a catastrophe

 

We are not helpless. That is what they want us to believe. In Islam we believe that whatever you ask for, you shall receive in sha Allah.

[Allah Seeker]

According to the love of my life Sayid Nasrallah, he had the following to say:

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"What we are facing now is more important than the first and second world wars," he warned , adding, "We don't know whether the EU and the US will collapse or not."

source

[hasanhh]

2 hours ago, 313 Seeker said:

I heard t

l do not know or fathom where you can here such stuff, but you need to read on your own and you can ask on S.C for directed reading.

[Allah Seeker]

1 minute ago, hasanhh said:

l do not know or fathom where you can here such stuff, but you need to read on your own and you can ask on S.C for directed reading.

regardless! shaytan will only have respite for some time. And once the victory of God happens iblis will be either dead or hiding and dominated and humiliated somewhere. 

Here is a place where you can read more and see narrations about him being killed by Mahdi if you want .

 

[hasanhh]

3 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

regardless! shaytan will only have respite for some time. And once the victory of God happens iblis will be either dead or hiding and dominated and humiliated somewhere. 

The vocabulary of "victory", "defeat" and so on do not apply to the God-of-Noah, Allah -.(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). because they are not revealed Attributes and over all things powerful/competent/the Determinant Ayat 16:77 for example.

[Allah Seeker]

1 minute ago, hasanhh said:

The vocabulary of "victory", "defeat" and so on do not apply to the God-of-Noah, Allah -.(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). because they are not revealed Attributes and over all things powerful/competent/the Determinant Ayat 16:77 for example.

 

Chapter of Victory in the Qur'an

When the victory of Allah (Nasr Allah) has come and the conquest, 110:1

[hasanhh]

48 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

 

Chapter of Victory in the Qur'an

When the victory of Allah (Nasr Allah) has come and the conquest, 110:1

The tri-literal root fa-ta-ha in noun form is also "decision" and "judgment". Two other translations/interpretations render it "conquest" and another "triumph".

Think of my point above another way: When something is a foregone/preordained conclusion, there is no "victory". lt is just the way it always was. Ayat 7:183

Edited March 30, 2020 by hasanhh

[Allah Seeker]

4 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

there is no "victory"

how can you say there is no victory when it is mentioned in the Qur'an that there is?

[hasanhh]

1 minute ago, 313 Seeker said:

how can you say there is no victory when it is mentioned in the Qur'an that there is?

Rather than argue just to argue, re-read the post.

[Allah Seeker]

1 minute ago, hasanhh said:

Rather than argue just to argue, re-read the post.

I don't get what you are saying. Just because Allah has pre-ordained the victory and opening, doesn't mean it's not a victory and opening. The verse says "when comes" or "Iza jah", so how can something come if it was there already. If it was there already then it would say "iza wajada" or "when it would be present". So even from your point of view I don't get what you are saying.

[hasanhh]

12 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

Just because Allah has

Be careful with phrasing like this.

Back to the post.  Ayat 7:14  Notice lbIis knows there is a Day when he and the dead are "raised up". The Last Day, our day, is a foregone conclusion.

[Allah Seeker]

13 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

Be careful with phrasing like this.

you be careful too ok? I don't understand half of the things you say. And you didn't answer what I told you about. How can there be no victory of Allah, when the Qur'an talks about a Victory of God. If you don't answer straight I won't bother to continue this conversation with you. Maybe we talk two different languages, so there is no point. l

[hasanhh]

8 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

you be careful too ok? I don't understand half of the things you say. And you didn't answer what I told you about. How can there be no victory of Allah, when the Qur'an talks about a Victory of God. If you don't answer straight I won't bother to continue this conversation with you. Maybe we talk two different languages, so there is no point. l

"Victory" is not the only translation/interpretation of the triliteral root fa-ta-ha in noun form.

What is so difficult to understand.

[Allah Seeker]

2 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

"Victory" is not the only translation/interpretation of the triliteral root fa-ta-ha in noun form.

What is so difficult to understand.

I was actually talking about the word Nasr. But Fath also is related. All meanings that are linked to those two words are forms of victory. Qur'an is an Arabic book, so we have to see what resonates with English words.

[Allah Seeker]

@hasanhh actually one of God's name is al-Fath .. and he is referred to Nasir .. so what is your point?

[hasanhh]

21 minutes ago, 313 Seeker said:

@hasanhh actually one of God's name is [1]al-Fath .. and he is referred to Nasir .. so what is your point?

1] Ultimate Judge

2] Ayat 48:1  The "victory" was granted to a man . . . a nabi.